RE: [SAtalk] BigEvil PF

2004-01-29 Thread Tom Meunier
Ah, I see now. It's probably the link to exclaimer.co.uk which is a product that puts boilerplate disclaimers at the end of Exchange 200x emails. Lawyers love those things. Idunno why it's in there. -tom > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[

RE: [SAtalk] new chicnpox --lint failed

2004-01-26 Thread Tom Meunier
Upgrade to 1.14. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Arpi > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:29 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] new chicnpox --lint failed > > Hi, > > After upgrading chichekpox to Version 1.11, spa

RE: [SAtalk] BigEvil PF

2004-01-26 Thread Tom Meunier
laythings\.biz |exoticsitestevedore\.com|explodeyour\.com|expocard\.rd10\.net)\b/i describe BigEvilList_72 Generated BigEvilList_72 score BigEvilList_723.0 -tom > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Paul Barbeau > Sent: F

RE: [SAtalk] thank you guys

2004-01-23 Thread Tom Meunier
I'll never complain about my old PII-400 taking 8.5 seconds to process a message through spamd again. -tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kinghorn Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 4:32 AM To: Spamassassin-Talk (E-mail) Su

[SAtalk] Forged mail pretending to be from MS Outlook

2004-01-12 Thread Tom Dabek
How is this determined?  When a particular individual send email to me, it picks up the following points for 'pretending to be outlook'  - however the user does use outlook so i am wondering what it is that makes this a false positive.   3.5 - Forged mail pretending to be from MS Outlook 0.6

[SAtalk] Forged mail pretending to be from MS Outlook

2004-01-12 Thread Tom Dabek
How is this determined?  When a particular individual send email to me, it picks up the following points for 'pretending to be outlook'  - however the user does use outlook so i am wondering what it is that makes this a false positive.   3.5 - Forged mail pretending to be from MS Outlook 0.

RE: [SAtalk] Country codes

2004-01-09 Thread Tom Meunier
ia, mexico, nigeria, russia, singapore, taiwan, thailand and turkey. -tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 9:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] Country codes What are you doing for country co

RE: [SAtalk] Thank you, thank you, thank you to the developers of SpamAssassin!

2004-01-08 Thread Tom Meunier
You forgot the part about the free Blaupunkt car stereos and Sony WEGA televisions. -tom > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 9:05 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [SAtalk] Finding a rule to catch a particular spam

2004-01-07 Thread Tom Meunier
Pyzor and BigEvil nailed both of them. The second one hit a whole ton of RBLs also. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Geoff Soper > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 4:18 PM > To: Chris Santerre > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: *

RE: [SAtalk] Continuing saga of runaway spamd

2004-01-07 Thread Tom Meunier
Interesting to me mostly because spamc/spamd by default won't even look at a 1.2mb email. I'm interested in how/where that happened. -tom > -Original Message- > > After we upgraded to SA 2.61 as was suggested by this list we > had a mail-machine crash aga

RE: [SAtalk] BigEvil.cf

2004-01-05 Thread Tom Meunier
Start spamd with -D debug options and then tail -f /var/log/maillog |grep -i bigevil > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of SAtalk Mail User > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 11:04 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] BigEvil.c

RE: [SAtalk] Detailed explanation of rules?

2003-12-29 Thread Tom Meunier
of the tests come out that way, counter to what we would think at first glance. > > Secondly, I am recently getting a lot of Spam that uses > constructs of the following form: > > Banned CD Gov That'll be nailed by Jennifer's Most Excellent Rules. Popcorn/Backhair/Wee

RE: [SAtalk] Image-only spam

2003-12-21 Thread Tom Meunier
Before you play with the settings, consider updating to the current version of SpamAssassin. You're probably using 2.44; the current version is 2.61. At this point, that much spam getting through would be expected behavior. -tom > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [SAtalk] importing spam from exchange users for sa-learn?

2003-12-18 Thread Tom Meunier
er style and I'm wondering if it's not an > issue with upgrade vs clean install. > Mine was also an upgrade from Exchange 5.5. Well, it was done as a swing server upgrade - I introduced the 2000 box into the 5.5 site, moved all the mailboxes & public folders to t

RE: [SAtalk] importing spam from exchange users for sa-learn?

2003-12-18 Thread Tom Meunier
> -Original Message- > From: Tony Hoyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:41 AM > To: Tom Meunier; AltGrendel; SA-Talk > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] importing spam from exchange users for sa-learn? > > > Interesting... what did you set o

RE: [SAtalk] importing spam from exchange users for sa-learn?

2003-12-18 Thread Tom Meunier
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of AltGrendel > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:54 AM > To: SA-Talk > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] importing spam from exchange users for sa-learn? > > Wasn't there a big issue with public folders stripp

RE: [SAtalk] Detecting strings of Gibberish

2003-12-11 Thread Tom Meunier
http://www.wot.no-ip.com/cgi-bin/detoken.pl Most of the gibberish I see is encoded tracking information. I plugged in my domain name to the little script thingy, saved the .cf file, and it catches 'em like crazy. -tom > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes Corpus Project

2003-12-11 Thread Tom Meunier
What would differentiate the proposed public corpus from the public corpus at http://www.spamassassin.org/publiccorpus/? -tom > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Adam Denenberg > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 20

[SAtalk] Subject line consideration

2003-12-09 Thread Tom Allison
Had a conversation with a rather intelligent user of email who had an inciteful question/remark about sorting his spam. I thought I would pass it along here as it seemed like a potentially good idea. Eventually this turns into a request for a code change. I could do this, but I hate the idea

RE: [SAtalk] How do I catch obfuscated characters?

2003-11-13 Thread Tom Meunier
You'll want to look at http://www.exit0.us/index.php/MaskedWordList Take a gander at the link to Chris' Mediocre ObfuScript, which is soon (I hear) to be upgraded to Chris' Somewhat Adequate ObfuScript. -tom > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mai

RE: [SAtalk] SecuritySage spam filters and Postfix/SpamAssassin integration

2003-11-13 Thread Tom Meunier
ing cpu cycles and disk space when you should've 550ed during the conversation". If their users tolerate it, that's up to them. :| -tom --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon 2003, 16-19 November in Las Vegas. Learn firs

RE: [SAtalk] Exchange 2000 + SpamAssassin + Postfix

2003-11-13 Thread Tom Meunier
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Guentert Matthias > > I have successfully installed spamassassin on my linux server which > runs postfix as mta. Our Exchange 2000 server pops the emails from the > linux server which stands in th

RE: [SAtalk] spamassasin without the mess

2003-11-11 Thread Tom Meunier
you have a non-*n?x enterprise mail server that you want to check incoming mail for? Do you simply have a single mailbox that you would like to use spamassassin on? -tom > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Tyler Montbriand >

RE: [SAtalk] Is bl.spamcop.net gone?

2003-11-08 Thread Tom Meunier
> -Original Message- > > IIRC, bl.spamcop.net isn't supposed to resolve. Try running an RBL > > query against it instead of trying to resolve it. > > > > > Surely it has to resolve to *something* - the NS records have > gone as well. > > Tony > No, it doesn't have to. When you que

RE: [SAtalk] Filtering on returned mails not written with my mail client

2003-11-08 Thread Tom Meunier
No. How would this be a bug? By definition it would have to be a custom rule, since you've specified that it be user-specific and custom header specific. Such a rule would work for nobody in the universe but Wolfgang Rohdewald. -tom > -Original Message- > From: [EMAI

RE: [SAtalk] scoring system and values...

2003-11-07 Thread Tom Meunier
e the results of the testing on that corpus. I think that since you work in an environment that does not tolerate any mention of the word "v?a?ra" you should score these rules higher in your local.cf file. That's the beauty of being able to simply put score ADDRESSES_ON_CD 9

RE: [SAtalk] RE: [RD] spam sentences

2003-11-06 Thread Tom Meunier
VSNL is, I believe, the largest ISP in India or at least in the top 2. I'd tread lightly on blocking them if you do business with India at all. -tom > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Chris Santerre > Sent: T

RE: [SAtalk] Razor2 Custom scores?

2003-11-06 Thread Tom Meunier
OR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 0 1.552 0 1.101 Narrow those body rules down with ('11','50') and ('51','89') and change the names. Add a rule for ('90','100') and add a score appropriately. Like I said, I'm stupid, so test it first. :) -tom

RE: [SAtalk] Patterns and load, progress???

2003-11-05 Thread Tom Meunier
Example 1. Use spamc/spamd, it defaults to only scanning messages under 250k and you can change that limit with spamc's -s switch. Example 2. What version of Spamassassin are you running? There's a whole ton of tests based upon the ratio of image to t

RE: [SAtalk] a new rule

2003-11-05 Thread Tom Meunier
If it's already 100% sure that it's spam, how is it helpful to train it that it's spam? It's not like it's going to be 110% sure that it's spam. It's already trained! Not trying to be a wise-ass, I've just seen this question come up fairly often,

[SAtalk] Parser.pm version >3.24

2003-11-05 Thread Tom Kuppens
here a way to work around this problem i.e. to point explicitly to the newer version of Parser.pm (in my pricate files) instead of using the installed one. TIA, Tom Kuppens Research group Quantumchemistry Department of Inorganic and Physical Chemistry WE06V Ghent University Krijgslaan 281 - S3,

[SAtalk] source sa 2.55

2003-11-05 Thread Tom Kuppens
> Hi there, > I just installed spamassassin 2.60 and everything worked fine. However I > to get spamassassin running I need the perl HTML parser 3.24 (or older) > and on the machine I'm using (and I'm not root and root is not cooperating > on installing a newer version) 3.21 is installed. Is the

RE: [SAtalk] Are these blacklists widely used, anywhere?

2003-11-05 Thread Tom Meunier
No, but you can enable it if you like. Their web site tells you how. Just save this text as /etc/mail/spamassassin/something.cf http://www.ahbl.org/using/spamassassin.txt > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Nigel Featherston > Sen

RE: [SAtalk] Best Blacklists

2003-11-05 Thread Tom Meunier
_BL_SPAMCOP_NET -tom > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Matt Kettler > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 3:19 PM > To: Steve Heggood; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Best Blacklists > > >

RE: [SAtalk] spamd using up all system memory and swap space

2003-11-03 Thread Tom Meunier
-m 15 will limit it to 15 spamd instances. Give that a shot. I'm kinda surprised by how quickly this happens, though. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Dennis Duval > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 5:05 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [SAtalk] Problems with bayes "forgetting" in 2.60

2003-11-03 Thread Tom Meunier
John, if you run the email through Spamassassin -tD -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Stewart, John > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 1:13 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: [SAtalk] Problems with bayes "forgetting" in 2.60 > >

RE: [SAtalk] IP Blocks to kill at the firewall?

2003-10-25 Thread Tom Meunier
Sweet. 27 hours for that to show up. (And looking at headers it's the ISP anyway, heh) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Tom Meunier > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 8:47 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

RE: [SAtalk] IP Blocks to kill at the firewall?

2003-10-25 Thread Tom Meunier
Okay, this is the sixth copy of this email that I've gotten. Is it me, is it sourceforge, or is it maybelline? (Yeah, I know it's sourceforge, but I wanted to kvetch) -tom > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf O

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes always 99%

2003-10-22 Thread Tom Meunier
Even on good mail? Or only on Spam? Because when I see spam, I'm 99% sure it's spam, and a well-trained Bayes engine would be 99% sure also. If it's on good mail that you're seeing 99%, every time, then your database is screwed up and you should start over. > -Original Message- > From:

RE: [SAtalk] list of test gone

2003-10-21 Thread Tom Meunier
Sorry, I should've left a note. I had brought it to the printers to get a banner made, and thought I'd take it out for a nice ice cream sundae too. It's back now, though. I put it at http://www.spamassassin.org/tests.html > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [SAtalk] Auto learning and manual blacklists

2003-10-19 Thread Tom Meunier
holds are, and I'm too lazy to go look. :) header ZZZ_SPAMMER_COM ALL =~ /spammername\.com/i describe ZZZ_SPAMMER_COM Score spammername.com ridiculously high. score ZZZ_SPAMMER_COM 98.6 -tom --- This SF.net email sponsored by: Enterpr

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes location setting?

2003-10-17 Thread Tom Meunier
That's right. It seems weird, doesn't it? But basically, that setting tells SA that the filenames are /usr/local/share/bayes_* To achieve what you think it should be, you'd want to do bayes_path /usr/local/share/bayes/bayes - funny as that sounds. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL P

RE: [SAtalk] LOTS of mail being tagged wrong

2003-10-17 Thread Tom Meunier
Train Bayes with sa-learn --ham using a sizable representative sample of the shipping company's "known good" email. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Håkon Nilsen (Exinet AS) > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 6:21 AM > To: [EMAIL P

RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread Tom Meunier
> -Original Message- > > I'm Linux SysAdmin at the company I work for, I always > install everything from source. > A colleague, a Windows SysAdmin, installs everything on his > Linux boxes from RPMs. > > What does that tell you? :) > Tells me we need a larger sample size. I'm a Wind

RE: [SAtalk] Automatic Unsubscribe

2003-10-14 Thread Tom Meunier
phy with forged headers, likely to honor their promise to unsubscribe your users? -tom > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Leon Oosterwijk > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 8:28 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sub

RE: [SAtalk] Not reading local.cf?

2003-10-13 Thread Tom Meunier
-H should list a directory other than the default home directory of the user that's calling spamc. Else, don't use it at all. -m5 should be -m 5 I believe. Other than that, Idunno. Feel free to ignore me. -tom > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes not working.. On System Wide SA

2003-10-13 Thread Tom Meunier
Well, it depends. If you run sa-learn and you're concerned that it's not running, use the --showdots switch and it'll give you a progress indicator. Just go ahead and sa-learn --ham a couple hundred hams real quick, it'll start up from there. No further config necessary. -

RE: [SAtalk] SA memory utilization (Was: Evil rules HUGE update!

2003-10-12 Thread Tom Meunier
YPE_ONLY,MIME_HTML_NO_CHARSET,MIME_HTML_ONLY,NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP, RCVD_IN_SBL,RCVD_IN_SORBS,T_AM_SPAMMY_SENDER,USER_IN_BLACKLIST,W_ROT13_B _R -tom --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. SourceForge.net hosts over 70,000 O

RE: [SAtalk] Too many rules?

2003-10-12 Thread Tom Meunier
statistics output with evilrules.cf, as I simply "blacklist_from *foo.tld" offending domains to my blacklist.cf file. -tom > -Original Message- > From: Robert Leonard III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 10:09 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] &g

[SAtalk] Popcorn & Weeds & Backhair

2003-10-12 Thread Tom Meunier
and that actually cut my spam traffic by over 50% by itself, but again this stuff never gets learned in Bayes. Has anyone else juggled these questions? -tom --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. SourceForge.net hosts ov

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes not working.. On System Wide SA

2003-10-12 Thread Tom Meunier
27;re seeing logged on as root is not accurate for troubleshooting purposes. -tom > -Original Message- > From: Robert Leonard III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 10:13 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] Bayes not working.. On System

RE: [SAtalk] How to ignore attachments of a certain size?

2003-10-12 Thread Tom Meunier
How do you call SpamAssassin? Please be specific with your answer. :) If you use spamc/spamd it defaults to only scanning up to 250kb, configurable with the -s switch. No config file necessary, you set it as a switch on the line that you call spamc with. http://www.spamassassin.org/doc/spamc.ht

[SAtalk] HTML character entities

2003-10-11 Thread Tom Wentworth
rough this list I found a reference to a test named HTTP_ENTITIES_HOST Yet, I don't see this in the current list of tests on the website. Has it been done away with? If it has, why? SA 2.55, Razor 2 --tom wentworth -- Protect yourself f

Re: [SAtalk] How does a message like this get through?

2003-10-09 Thread Tom Satter
that were set up for the site, that might be a nice rule to add to the list. tom -- tom satter - just plain old tom (303) 543-7623 (home) Matt Kettler said: > At 12:25 PM 10/9/2003, Eric Vollmer wrote: > >>My question is, what is the threshold for subject/body text like >&

RE: [SAtalk] Why SpamAssassin STOP FILTERING SPAM !!! HELP !!!

2003-10-08 Thread Tom Meunier
> -Original Message- > From: O-Zone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Wednesday 08 October 2003 13:40, Tom Meunier wrote: > > (I must be annoying SOMEBODY) Hi Oz, Which > > machine(s) have spamassassin? I know domini does, but does > siena also > > have

RE: [SAtalk] Why SpamAssassin STOP FILTERING SPAM !!! HELP !!!

2003-10-08 Thread Tom Meunier
(I must be annoying SOMEBODY) Hi Oz, Which machine(s) have spamassassin? I know domini does, but does siena also have spamassassin? That would cause this behavior. -tom - headers - On Wednesday 08 October 2003 13:25, you wrote: > It's difficult to see because yo

RE: [SAtalk] RBL check

2003-10-08 Thread Tom Meunier
Hi Doug, The answer to your question varies depending on what version of SpamAssassin you're using, and what RBL's you're seeing scores on. This is crucial information to answering your question. Since this is a well-documented issue with versions before 2.60, I'm going to assume that, and that y

RE: [SAtalk] Why SpamAssassin STOP FILTERING SPAM !!! HELP !!!

2003-10-08 Thread Tom Meunier
nce on the already-scanned mail. Perhaps during whatever adds that funny X-UIDL header. Follow the path that the email's taking between Internet and final destination, and you'll see the place where the process breaks down. It's difficult to see because you're not

RE: [SAtalk] OT: anti-spam email-only host

2003-10-07 Thread Tom Meunier
Sounds like Postini. Or Messagelabs. postini dot com or messagelabs dot com. Messagelabs is using a modified SpamAssassin, iirc. > -Original Message- > From: Jonathan Vanasco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 5:23 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk

RE: [SAtalk] 2.60 Problems

2003-10-07 Thread Tom Meunier
6 asterisks indicates it's not quite 7.0. Probably 6.9something. You could add up the scores to verify if you really like, but that's what's happening. X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=7.0 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_10,DATE_IN_PAST_03_06, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_FONTCOLOR_RED

RE: [SAtalk] spamassassin -tD creates higher score than MailScanner & SpamAssassin

2003-10-06 Thread Tom Meunier
So you're saying that when you cut and paste the body of a spam into an email, removing the spammer's headers, SpamAssassin doesn't rate your headers as spammy as the spammer's headers? And you include only the spammy body, and it trips off all the spammy body checks? That's to be expected, isn't

RE: [SAtalk] SA's recently slowed down for me!

2003-10-06 Thread Tom Meunier
You need to either upgrade to 2.60 or remove your Osirusoft and orbs tests tests as specified in the article at http://news.spamassassin.org. Those blocklists are dead and are waiting until your timeout. -tom > -Original Message- > From: Jim Ford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sen

RE: [SAtalk] 50% Spam Reduction Rate

2003-10-06 Thread Tom Meunier
What version of SpamAssassin? You can implement Razor, DCC, RBLs, and train your Bayes up to 200 each of spam/ham to augment the tools at SA's disposal. -tom > -Original Message- > From: David M. Carney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 1:09 P

RE: [SAtalk] spamd and -a option in 2.60?

2003-10-06 Thread Tom Meunier
It's the first option on the list if you type spamd --help > -Original Message- > From: Rob Mangiafico [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 1:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] spamd and -a option in 2.60? > > In the 2.60 docs, the -a "auto whitelis

RE: [SAtalk] Re: Pyzor in 2.60?

2003-10-03 Thread Tom Meunier
I've been able to re-discover pyzor servers (and it always winds up with the same server) and get pyzor working for a couple hours before the "couldn't grok response '...TimeoutErrors'" begins again. I've disabled Pyzor and just written it off to my own ignorance. Basically once it starts not

RE: [SAtalk] Highest Score

2003-10-03 Thread Tom Meunier
Look, there's a poll for this at http://news.spamassassin.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=NS-Polls&file=index Is it inappropriate to suggest that we see who's got the biggest thingy over there? -tom --- This sf.net

[SAtalk] Bayes poison

2003-10-02 Thread Tom Meunier
What to do with a spam that includes this garbage at the bottom, in a hidden font? Bayes freaked, I'm kinda glad it didn't auto-learn it. I'd rather have the false negative than that. (Only snipped the Bayes poison from the mail, I think maybe Mozilla TBird put all the = i

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes (again)

2003-10-01 Thread Tom Meunier
1. It's okay to train with the spam with Spamassassin markup. sa-learn ignores the markup. 2. It's not okay to train with "this month's sent-mail" - you need to be training it with mail that reflects the type of mail you GET, not send. The headers are as c

RE: [SAtalk] Re: Automating usage of sa-learn

2003-09-30 Thread Tom Meunier
; option on a customers box today, without avail. It almost > drove me crazy... Tools > Options > Email Options > When Forwarding > Attach Original Message. or from the message editing interface itself: Insert > Item and browse through your

Re: [SAtalk] Restart Spamd

2003-09-30 Thread Tom Gwilt
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Scott Rothgaber wrote: > Mike Carlson wrote: > > > What is the best way to kill spamassassin and restart it again after making > > a change to the local.cf file? > > `/usr/local/etc/rc.d/spamd.sh restart' on FreeBSD. > > IIRC, this just kills and restarts the daemon. I seem

[SAtalk] Change the program SA forwards to

2003-09-29 Thread Tom Predmore
it's working fine. Anyhow, I do not want to break the POP before SMTP and the SA SQL user prefs since qmail-scanner passes the user info to SA. All I want next is SA to pass it to Vexira and Vexira will call qmail's sendmail for delivery.   Any Ideas Greatly appreciated! -Tom

[SAtalk] Change the program SA forwards to

2003-09-29 Thread Tom Predmore
ne. Anyhow, I do not want to break the POP before SMTP and the SA SQL user prefs since qmail-scanner passes the user info to SA. All I want next is SA to pass it to Vexira and Vexira will call qmail's sendmail for delivery. Any Ideas Greatly ap

RE: [SAtalk] Auto-whitelist (AWL) enable/disable?

2003-09-29 Thread Tom Meunier
ed a few months ago, and no definitive answer was given. -tom > -Original Message- > From: Doug Ledbetter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 2:12 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] Auto-whitelist (AWL) enable/disable? > > > H

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes question: Can I change the number of messages required before bayes kicks in?

2003-09-29 Thread Tom Meunier
Why not just go get 80 spams from the public corpus? It'll be not optimal, but it'll be better than forcing it with 120. http://spamassassin.org/publiccorpus/ > -Original Message- > From: Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 10:45 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [SAtalk] SA WISH LIST Country Identification 2 Digit Codes

2003-09-29 Thread Tom Meunier
You could probably make some of that happen yourself by implementing some of the blacklists at http://www.blackholes.us See http://www.blackholes.us/docs/usage.html#spamassassin for usage info. -tom -Original Message- From: Andrew Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September

RE: [SAtalk] Better logging?

2003-09-23 Thread Tom Meunier
I think the main thrust of his answer was that Google Is Your Friend. http://www.gryzor.com/tools/ -tom > -Original Message- > From: Jim Knuth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > First hit after googling for spamstats and perl: > > http://freshmeat.net/projects/spams

RE: [SAtalk] problems with 2.60

2003-09-23 Thread Tom Meunier
Go check your filesystem rights on those file & directories. That's happened to me before, and I was waiting for it to happen this time too, and mysteriously, it didn't. My gateway boxen must be contagious. :) -tom > -Original Message- > From: Steve Heggood [mai

RE: [SAtalk] required_hits 10 email scores a 7 and is blocked

2003-09-23 Thread Tom Meunier
SpamAssassin doesn't block mail. All it does is mark it up for content. That mail seems to have been marked up for spam content correctly. Therefore, your problem is not with SpamAssassin but rather with the product that you've configured to quarantine mail. > -Original Message- > From:

RE: [SAtalk] Philosophical SA questions

2003-09-22 Thread Tom Meunier
ical question #6: Why autolearn only on the > certainly spam? Most of them already score high on Bayes, > why not train on the borderlines where bayes could push it > over the edge? I get a lot of 3.9s and 4.2s with no (or > little) affecting score from bayes. To guard against mistakes

RE: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin filters seem too weak out of the box...

2003-09-22 Thread Tom Meunier
en the one-in-500 that gets through. Honest, Mike. Try it. It may seem counterintuitive, but it really does work. It's actually quite difficult to hand-construct a spam. That is expected behavior. Good luck, -tom --- This sf.net emai

RE: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin filters seem too weak out of the box...

2003-09-22 Thread Tom Meunier
It's not abysmal. You just don't understand it. Most people get in excess of 99% of spam with SpamAssassin. Isn't it great to know that SpamAssassin is so well geared against false positives that you're TRYING to send a spammy email and can't do it? http://www.spamassassin.org/tests.html Break

RE: [SAtalk] Better logging?

2003-09-22 Thread Tom Meunier
Spamstats does that. http://www.gryzor.com/tools/ > -Original Message- > From: Markus Gaugusch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 5:31 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] Better logging? > > Hi, > I'm using spamassassin on our relay server (with pos

RE: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam

2003-09-21 Thread Tom Meunier
Oh pooh. Ignore me. Of course Patrick is right; it doesn't support qmail. > -Original Message- > From: Tom Meunier > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 9:51 AM > To: 'Tomáš Macek'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on scor

RE: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam

2003-09-21 Thread Tom Meunier
Why, Google of course! http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/spamass-milt/ Yes, it works with qmail. -tom > -Original Message- > From: Tomáš Macek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 8:40 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Autodele

RE: [SAtalk] Really really simple spams - not enough to accumulate 4 points

2003-09-21 Thread Tom Meunier
Bayes, RBL checks, Razor, DCC, Pyzor. -tom > -Original Message- > From: Ed Greenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 8:58 AM > To: spamassassin talk > Subject: [SAtalk] Really really simple spams - not enough to > accumulate 4 points >

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes questions

2003-09-21 Thread Tom Meunier
n to, "Well, that isn't really optimal, so don't overdo it." Keep in mind that a "large corpus" is optimal, but the necessary corpus to get Bayes working is 200 hams & 200 spams. -tom > -Original Message- > From: Ed Greenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT

[SAtalk] SQL user prefs

2003-09-19 Thread Tom Predmore
no avail as well. Update and perl modules. Checked all permissions. Any help would be greatly appreciated! -- Regards, Tom --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf

RE: [SAtalk] Spam and bounces

2003-09-19 Thread Tom Meunier
SpamAssassin doesn't bounce mail, period. If you want it to bounce mail, please do so. If you don't, don't. Further documentation in your MTA's man pages. -tom > -Original Message- > From: Regis Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, Se

[SAtalk] Re: Question for the FAQ

2003-09-19 Thread Tom Diehl
rk. I seeing this also. A message I saw on another list earlier today stated that there seemed to be a bug in the virus that sometimes allowed it to send its message without the exe. as a result the virus scanners were missing it. HTH, -- ..Tom Registered Linux User #14522h

RE: [SAtalk] Scan Message Max Size

2003-09-19 Thread Tom Meunier
> That'd be like that New Shimmer! It's a virus AND a banned executable attachment! I have tools designed to deal with both of those, and SpamAssassin isn't one of them. -tom --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek

RE: [SAtalk] Question for the FAQ

2003-09-19 Thread Tom Meunier
Absolutely. www.exit0.us/index.php/VirusBounceRules among other things. -tom > -Original Message- > From: Ivar Magne Auestad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:01 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] Qu

RE: [SAtalk] Scan Message Max Size

2003-09-18 Thread Tom Meunier
Define "safe" - I stick with the default of 250kb and have never had an issue with it. I can't see receiving a spam anywhere near that size, that wouldn't also trigger an attachment blocking rule on my gateway MTA. -tom > -Original Message- > From: Jeff Fun

RE: [SAtalk] disable rbls, but keep pyzor, dcc, razor

2003-09-18 Thread Tom Meunier
skip_rbl_checks 1 #even though they're default if installed anyway... use_razor2 1 use_pyzor 1 use_dcc 1 You've disabled the Osirusoft tests, I hope. Those hit everything on the Internet. -tom > -Original Message- > From: Covington, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [SAtalk] help with master.cf and filter

2003-09-17 Thread Tom Organ
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan > Fullmer > Sent: Wednesday, 17 September 2003 12:31 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] help with master.cf and filter > > > alright, one more question is there any way i can remove t

RE: [SAtalk] Recognising dynamic rr.com IPs

2003-09-17 Thread Tom Meunier
http://blackholes.us/ > -Original Message- > From: Peter Kiem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:41 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] Recognising dynamic rr.com IPs > > I'm getting sick of all the spam that comes from rr.com and > have been b

RE: [SAtalk] The Verisign folly

2003-09-16 Thread Tom Meunier
I think the linked IAB missive is related to this: http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/2003-01/msg00023.html WTF is Verisign doing anyway? Deciding the Internet is their own private toy? And everyone in the world is using it at their (verisign's) whim? -tom > -Original

RE: [SAtalk] The Verisign folly

2003-09-16 Thread Tom Meunier
"Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:19:37 +1100" -tom > -Original Message- > http://www.iab.org/Documents/icann-vgrs-response.html --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://

[SAtalk] Rules for hoaxes

2003-09-10 Thread Tom Meunier
I'm mulling over whether to make some SA rules for some of the more common urban legends and virus hoaxes. Has anyone played with this, that is willing to share experiences? -tom --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welco

RE: [SAtalk] No BAYES_* ?

2003-09-10 Thread Tom Meunier
not resemble words. Also note that this email has very unusual spacing between words, and does funny things with the placement of punctuation. It probably confused Bayes. You'll want to learn it. For some reason I didn't see the spam header report on this email, so this is all

RE: [SAtalk] SA only ran 1 test??

2003-09-10 Thread Tom Meunier
C, if the headers themselves don't break any rules. -tom > -Original Message- > From: jpf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 11:51 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] SA only ran 1 test?? > > I rec'd the following mai

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