Re: [SAtalk] Re: Accumulator rules (Re: 'random' character sets)

2003-11-07 Thread David B Funk
> DBF> On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Robert Menschel wrote: > > >> Or better: what if we specified in the rule a maximum score to accumulate > >> to? Maybe something like: > >> > >> accumbody T_SAMPLE /(?:word1|word2|word3|word4|word5)/i,max=2.5 > >> describe T_SAMPLE Message has medical words frequentl

[SAtalk] Re: 'random' character sets

2003-11-07 Thread Matthew Cline
On Friday 07 November 2003 06:24 pm, Robert Menschel wrote: > Or better: what if we specified in the rule a maximum score to accumulate > to? Maybe something like: > > accumbody T_SAMPLE /(?:word1|word2|word3|word4|word5)/i,max=2.5 > describe T_SAMPLE Message has medical words frequently used

[SAtalk] Re: Accumulator rules (Re: 'random' character sets)

2003-11-07 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Robert Menschel wrote: > So you'd be suggesting something like: > > body T_SAMPLE /(?:word1|word2|word3|word4|word5)/i > describe T_SAMPLE Message has medical words frequently used in spam > score T_SAMPLE 0.5 > accum T_SAMPLEA ( T_SAMPLE > 5 ) > score T_S

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Accumulator rules (Re: 'random' character sets)

2003-11-07 Thread Keith C. Ivey
It seems to me that many accumulator rules (including many that have been proposed on the list) would require a way of specifying a minimum number of occurrences below which there would be no score at all. I don't think a single long string of consonants, for example, is worth any points, but

[SAtalk] Spamassassin and Localhost

2003-11-07 Thread Alan Fullmer
I have a question.    Maybe I have something configured incorrectly.   Is it standard procedure for spamassassin to skip checks if they are coming from localhost, or sent from the local machine?   SA works great with mail coming in from the outside world, but skips checks if sent by a loca

RE: [SAtalk] Abused redirector URLs ?

2003-11-07 Thread Larry Gilson
> -Original Message- > From: Keith C. Ivey > > Larry Gilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Or, you could just say any redirection is not a good thing. > > > > describe MY_URI_REDIRECTMY: Trying to hide real URL by redirect > > uri MY_URI_REDIRECT/https?:\/\/.*\/\*http:\/\/

[SAtalk] Re: Accumulator rules (Re: 'random' character sets)

2003-11-07 Thread Robert Menschel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello David, I like your idea -- improves efficiency by providing a "stop" point, while maintaining the ability to reasonably accumulate hits. Thanks. Bob Menschel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0 iQA/AwUBP6xw6JebK8E4qh1HEQLrwQCgrDC8

[SAtalk] Spamassassin bouncing all mails

2003-11-07 Thread Willem-Jan Meijer
Hello all, I'm running debian woody 3.0r1 with all security patches, and postfix/spamassassin that comes with debian. After an article in the dutch linux magazine from oktober, I tried to install spamassassin (postfix was/is already running) with the step by step guide enclosed with it. I've done

Re[2]: [SAtalk] scoring system and values...

2003-11-07 Thread Robert Menschel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello maarten, Friday, November 7, 2003, 3:09:20 PM, you wrote: mvdB> Following up to myself, since I want to clarify something here... mvdB> Another aspect that is relevant to me (but arguably not to most mvdB> users of SA and I'm aware of that...)

[SAtalk] Accumulator rules (Re: 'random' character sets)

2003-11-07 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Robert Menschel wrote: > Or better: what if we specified in the rule a maximum score to accumulate > to? Maybe something like: > > accumbody T_SAMPLE /(?:word1|word2|word3|word4|word5)/i,max=2.5 > describe T_SAMPLE Message has medical words frequently used in spam > score

Re[2]: [SAtalk] scoring system and values...

2003-11-07 Thread Robert Menschel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello maarten, Friday, November 7, 2003, 1:25:05 PM, you wrote: mvdB> ... Upon looking at those rules I see al LOT of inconsistencies. mvdB> For instance, I found these rules that have score of zero(!) (and mvdB> these are merely the top of a large i

Re: Accumulator rules (Re: [SAtalk] 'random' character sets)

2003-11-07 Thread Robert Menschel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Bart, Friday, November 7, 2003, 10:42:32 AM, you responded to Justin Mason: BS> Rather than give a rule a score and accumulate the score each time it BS> hits, have a META rule that accumulates the number of matches on the BS> regex, and then s

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Re: 'random' character sets

2003-11-07 Thread Robert Menschel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Justin, Friday, November 7, 2003, 10:19:15 AM, you wrote: >>Many of us are finding we hit limits with simple regex rules. To me, an >>accumulator eval for rules is the next logical step. >> >>Make sense? JM> BTW, SpamAssassin originally start

Re: [SAtalk] Re: 'random' character sets

2003-11-07 Thread Keith C. Ivey
Justin Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW, SpamAssassin originally started with accumulating rules. But I took > it out, as it meant a long hammy mail had a much higher chance of FP'ing, > due to containing more text. The problem exists anyway, since long nonspam messages are more likely to

Re: [SAtalk] scoring system and values...

2003-11-07 Thread Keith C. Ivey
Maarten J H van den Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > List 1: > score ALL_CAP_PORN 0.650 0.669 0 0 > score PENIS_ENLARGE2 0.500 0.590 0 0.501 > score UPPERCASE_50_75 0.794 1.137 0 0 > score V+AG+A_ONLINE 1.100 1.101 3.151 4.056 > > If it were up to me, I'd say that giving only half a point to a m

RE: [SAtalk] spamd startup script hangs system

2003-11-07 Thread Russell Mann
> Yeah I can confirm a spamd startup script works > > Send yours, also send what you use from the command line, what OS you > use. etc. etc. > > tm. I did send that stuff before - trying to save some list bandwidth. Ce'st la vie. Here goes: RedHat 6.2, Perl 5.6.1, SpamAssassin 2.55 Hello,

Re: [SAtalk] scoring system and values...

2003-11-07 Thread Keith C. Ivey
maarten van den Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is not a single rule that scores > higher than 4.999. That is plain wrong in my book; let's say we encounter the > word "vicodin" (which is totally absent in the current rules by the way!). > I would then say "let's score that 5.50 immedia

Re: [SAtalk] Stupid API question

2003-11-07 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Carl R. Friend writes: >Greetings Assassins! > >I've got a silly question that can be answered with a simple "Yes" > or "No" (or a "go sod off you stupid git", although I hope it won't > come to _that_). > >Is it possible for an eval() t

Re: [SAtalk] scoring system and values...

2003-11-07 Thread Matt Kettler
At 04:25 PM 11/7/2003, maarten van den Berg wrote: Upon looking at those rules I see al LOT of inconsistencies. For instance, I found these rules that have score of zero(!) (and these are merely the top of a large iceberg) score CASHCASHCASH 0 score ADDRESSES_ON_CD 0 score BLANK_LINES_90_100 0 scor

Re: [SAtalk] scoring system and values...

2003-11-07 Thread Keith C. Ivey
maarten van den Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know you can teach SA to recognize spam in ones' own > language, but what is missing right now is a simple way to make > SA much more immune to the abundant english spam, which arguably > is by FAR the bulk of all spam... There is a way: the Ba

[SAtalk] Stupid API question

2003-11-07 Thread Carl R. Friend
Greetings Assassins! I've got a silly question that can be answered with a simple "Yes" or "No" (or a "go sod off you stupid git", although I hope it won't come to _that_). Is it possible for an eval() test to return a value to be used as the ultimate score for a given test? To wit, I w

RE: [SAtalk] Abused redirector URLs ?

2003-11-07 Thread Keith C. Ivey
Larry Gilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or, you could just say any redirection is not a good thing. > > describe MY_URI_REDIRECTMY: Trying to hide real URL by redirect > uri MY_URI_REDIRECT/https?:\/\/.*\/\*http:\/\//i > scoreMY_URI_REDIRECT4.0 Have you seen any site other

Re: [SAtalk] scoring system and values...

2003-11-07 Thread Chris Thielen
maarten van den Berg said: > > Following up to myself, since I want to clarify something here... > > Another aspect that is relevant to me (but arguably not to most users of > SA > and I'm aware of that...) is that for me, english is not my native > language, > neither am I a resident of an english

Re: [SAtalk] scoring system and values...

2003-11-07 Thread maarten van den Berg
Following up to myself, since I want to clarify something here... Another aspect that is relevant to me (but arguably not to most users of SA and I'm aware of that...) is that for me, english is not my native language, neither am I a resident of an english-speaking country. And because of this,

RE: [SAtalk] scoring system and values...

2003-11-07 Thread Tom Meunier
The CASHCASHCASH rule tests for the string '$$$' not for the phrase CASH! CASH! CASH! The ADDRESSES_ON_CD rule caught almost as much ham when tested against a half-million message corpus as it did spam. The BLANK_LINES_90_100 caught MORE ham than it did spam. http://search.cpan.org/src/JMASON/Mail

Re: [SAtalk] scoring system and values...

2003-11-07 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Thielen writes: >I'm not criticizing your viewpoint, but with a little tweaking, SA really >"works for me"! Yeah -- and that's the important thing. It's really very easy to train the Bayes stuff, in particular. The aim is to: - work well f

FW: [SAtalk] Weird problem with Spam Assassin and razor

2003-11-07 Thread Paul Hirschorn
P.S. I did a manual entry of a spam message to razor and it works fine. razor-check -d < test.email Connects returns valid results. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Hirschorn Sent: 07 November 2003 16:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [

Re: [SAtalk] installation fails [perl]

2003-11-07 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, maarten van den Berg wrote: > On Friday 07 November 2003 22:34, David B Funk wrote: > > IIRC, this was due to a bug in one of the versions of CPAN. > > Try updating your CPAN > > I already doubted this, so thanks a lot for that info. However, I'm kinda > stuck since insta

RE: [SAtalk] stats script, by (fairly) popular demand - off-topic question

2003-11-07 Thread ian douglas
> my @otherstuff = sort { > (my $numa) = ($a =~ m/\.(\d+)\./); > (my $numb) = ($b =~ m/\.(\d+)\./); > $numa <=> $numb || $a cmp $b > } @stuff; you rock, i owe ya a beer ;o) -id --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Apac

RE: [SAtalk] Delete spam mails

2003-11-07 Thread ian douglas
> SpamAssassin drinking game: > > sips for "How can I get SpamAssassin to delete spams? > sips for "Unsubscribe me please" > sips for "Subscribe me please" > sips for "Quit reading my e-mail!" For every good, tested rule you create that works, everyone else takes sips ---

Re: [SAtalk] connecting IP address header

2003-11-07 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Philip Tucker writes: > What's the best way to add a MIME header for the connecting IP address > such that SpamAssassin can access it (we have a system where the > received header is not added until after SpamAssassin sees the message)? > It looks lik

RE: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin not labeling as spam but debug labels as spam

2003-11-07 Thread Jennifer Fountain
SA labels other spam just not my internal RBL. I removed the -t option and the header does pass. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 4:52 PM To: Jennifer Fountain Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin

Re: [SAtalk] training...

2003-11-07 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Evan Platt wrote: > --On Friday, November 07, 2003 12:06 PM -0800 Jeff Lasman > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What's likely to happen if I run these 563 spams without running any > > hams? > > I thought I recall the help file stating that running HAMS without SPAM (or >

Re: [SAtalk] scoring system and values...

2003-11-07 Thread Chris Thielen
Hiya Maarten! This is going a bit off topic, but the spam I receive is 90% porn. I haven't had one slip through in months. The secret? Adding bayesian and network checks into the mix. Given, I'm the only user on my system as well as the admin, but I've seen 100% accuracy for quite some time no

RE: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin not labeling as spam but debug labels as spam

2003-11-07 Thread up
Sorry, I rushed through your post...I thought you were referring to the problem with the subject not being re-writtenwell, if anyone running spamd and spamc from qmail-scanner is wondering why it doesn't work, here it is :) On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Jennifer Fountain wrote: > SA labels other spam

[SAtalk] Weird problem with Spam Assassin and razor

2003-11-07 Thread Paul Hirschorn
I am trying to get a fresh install of SpamAssassin + Razor working and i seem to be having some problem with razor. At first i had some issues with Digest::SHA1 which i remedied by deleting all so the .pm and.so files related to Digest::SHA1 then reinstalling the agents sdk and the razor client.

[SAtalk] connecting IP address header

2003-11-07 Thread Philip Tucker
Title: connecting IP address header What's the best way to add a MIME header for the connecting IP address such that SpamAssassin can access it (we have a system where the received header is not added until after SpamAssassin sees the message)?  It looks like X-Originating-IP or X-Apparently-

[SAtalk] report vs check with spamd/spamc (repost)

2003-11-07 Thread Sherrard Burton
i didn't get any responses to this message, so i though i'd give it another shot. i looked in the archives for an answer, but may have missed it. please excuse me if i'm brining up an already answered question. i have recently ditched the perl api in favor of the spamd/spamc combination for our m

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin not labeling as spam but debug labels as spam

2003-11-07 Thread up
I just figured this out the other day. This is not an SA issue, but a qmail-scanner.pl issue. To address it directly, edit this line in qmail-scanner.pl: my $spamc_subject='***SPAM***'; The one downside is that having (_HITS_/_REQD_) doesn't work. I suspect that if you rebuild qmail-scanner.p

Re: [SAtalk] installation fails [perl]

2003-11-07 Thread maarten van den Berg
On Friday 07 November 2003 22:34, David B Funk wrote: > On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Maarten J H van den Berg wrote: > > I eventually found the reason for this behaviour after I noticed that > > root could start it okay, but the unpriv user spamd couldn't...: > > > > machine:~ # ls -la /usr/lib/perl5/site_p

Re: [SAtalk] scoring system and values...

2003-11-07 Thread maarten van den Berg
On Friday 07 November 2003 18:43, Matt Kettler wrote: > At 10:29 AM 11/7/2003, Maarten J H van den Berg wrote: > >Sorry if this has been discussed in the past... > > It's been discussed many times.. It's very common for people to have a very > deep misunderstanding of how SA scoring works. Most peo

Re: [SAtalk] installation fails [perl]

2003-11-07 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Maarten J H van den Berg wrote: > > I eventually found the reason for this behaviour after I noticed that root > could start it okay, but the unpriv user spamd couldn't...: > > machine:~ # ls -la /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/Mail/SpamAssassin > drwx--2 root root

Re: [SAtalk] Re: 'random' character sets

2003-11-07 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Justin Mason wrote: > BTW, SpamAssassin originally started with accumulating rules. But I took > it out, as it meant a long hammy mail had a much higher chance of FP'ing, > due to containing more text. > > I'd be worried that accumulating hits would reintroduce the same > prob

Re: [SAtalk] training...

2003-11-07 Thread Evan Platt
--On Friday, November 07, 2003 12:06 PM -0800 Jeff Lasman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since my original training a few weeks ago I've gotten 563 spams in my > "spamuncaught" folder for further bayes training. > > What I don't have, is 500 or so ham emails that haven't been run through > befo

RE: [SAtalk] stats script, by (fairly) popular demand - off-topic question

2003-11-07 Thread Chris Thielen
#!/usr/bin/perl my @stuff = ( 'maillog.11.gz', 'maillog.2.gz', 'maillog.10.gz', 'maillog', 'maillog.1.gz', 'maillog.3.gz', ); my @otherstuff = sort { (my $numa) = ($a =~ m/\.(\d+)\./); (my $numb) = ($b =~ m/\.(\d+)\./); $numa

Re: [SAtalk] Delete spam mails

2003-11-07 Thread Evan Platt
SpamAssassin drinking game: sips for "How can I get SpamAssassin to delete spams? sips for "Unsubscribe me please" sips for "Subscribe me please" sips for "Quit reading my e-mail!" I'll work on a guestbook application to allow people to add their suggestions. :) Evan --

Re: [SAtalk] problem with Razor and spamd

2003-11-07 Thread Peter Buonora
Hello, I thought that spamd would suid to the user that called spamc and use that users config if the -H option was selected. Anyway, when I run the spamassassin --lint -D it shows that razor is working and is available. When I start spamd with the username=spamfilter, then log in as spamfilt

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin not labeling as spam but debug labels as spam

2003-11-07 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:16 PM 11/7/2003, Jennifer Fountain wrote: am using an internal RBL list. When I test a header that is in the list using the following command: /usr/bin/spamassassin -t --prefs-file=/var/qmail/.spamassassin/user_prefs -D < /home/tmp/spam_test.txt, it labels it as spam. However, when an ema

RE: [SAtalk] stats script, by (fairly) popular demand - off-topic question

2003-11-07 Thread ian douglas
My new mailstats.pl script (matt's script with a few tweaks) is giving me some grief. My maillog files are named: maillog (for today) maillog.1.gz maillog.2.gz etc maillog.10.gz etc When Matt's script does the 'sort', it sorts it as: maillog maillog.1.gz maillog.10.gz maillog.11.gz maillog.2.gz

Re: [SAtalk] problem with Razor and spamd

2003-11-07 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Peter Buonora wrote: > Ok, I am running on Solaris 8, latest version of Spamassassin, perl 5.8. > > For some reason when using the 'spamassassin' executable, razor works. > When I try to switch over to spamc/spamd everything works except razor. > There isnt even anything in the

[SAtalk] training...

2003-11-07 Thread Jeff Lasman
Since my original training a few weeks ago I've gotten 563 spams in my "spamuncaught" folder for further bayes training. What I don't have, is 500 or so ham emails that haven't been run through before. What's likely to happen if I run these 563 spams without running any hams? I do have lots o

[SAtalk] [RD] Re: Abused redirector URLs ?

2003-11-07 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Chr. von Stuckrad wrote: > > Hi [snip..] > The mail also contained a broken variant of the wrong/forgotten > Parameter of their Spam-Mailer: ' $RANDOM IZE ' > > So: > > body RANDOM_IZE / \$RANDOM IZE / > score RANDOM_IZE2 > describe RANDOM_IZE contains brok

Re: [SAtalk] Newbie Questions

2003-11-07 Thread Edward Shornock
Chip Paswater wrote: Hey Guys, I apologize if these questions are asked somewhere, but I did browse the FAQ and documentation and didn't see an answer. I have a good understanding of Razor v2, but I just started using SA. 1. When reporting spam via spamassassin -r, can I supply an mbox instead

[SAtalk] rewritten SA message breaks html chars in outlook?

2003-11-07 Thread Steven Manross
In looking at the rewritten messages that SA produces, it looks like a "=\r" is getting inserted at various points in the message and seems to break the displaying of various characters in an HTML mail destined for my Exchange Server and Outlook XP. Namely, an "=" seems to get inserted in the plac

[SAtalk] SpamAssassin not labeling as spam but debug labels as spam

2003-11-07 Thread Jennifer Fountain
I am using an internal RBL list. When I test a header that is in the list using the following command: /usr/bin/spamassassin -t --prefs-file=/var/qmail/.spamassassin/user_prefs -D < /home/tmp/spam_test.txt, it labels it as spam. However, when an email from the same server arrives, it is not lab

[SAtalk] SIG PIPE received - reopening log socket

2003-11-07 Thread XOR
Greetings All! I just put a PostFix+SpamAssassin system into production for my network. The setup is three front-end PostFix which relay all SMTP main entering our network along with four back-end SpamAssassin (spamd) servers which process all of the SMTP mail that the PostFix servers rece

Re: [SAtalk] Newbie Questions

2003-11-07 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:13 PM 11/7/2003, Chip Paswater wrote: Hey Guys, I apologize if these questions are asked somewhere, but I did browse the FAQ and documentation and didn't see an answer. I have a good understanding of Razor v2, but I just started using SA. 1. When reporting spam via spamassassin -r, can I s

RE: [SAtalk] Abused redirector URLs ?

2003-11-07 Thread Larry Gilson
Or, you could just say any redirection is not a good thing. describe MY_URI_REDIRECTMY: Trying to hide real URL by redirect uri MY_URI_REDIRECT/https?:\/\/.*\/\*http:\/\//i scoreMY_URI_REDIRECT4.0 --Larry > -Original Message- > From: Mike Kuentz (2) [mailto:[EMAIL PR

RE: [SAtalk] scoring system and values...

2003-11-07 Thread Scott Sprunger
Wow! Matt this is an incredibly informative post. Thank you! -Original Message- From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 12:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] scoring system and values... At 10:29 AM 11/7/2003, Maart

Accumulator rules (Re: [SAtalk] 'random' character sets)

2003-11-07 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Justin Mason wrote: > BTW, SpamAssassin originally started with accumulating rules. But I took > it out, as it meant a long hammy mail had a much higher chance of FP'ing, > due to containing more text. > > I'd be worried that accumulating hits would reintroduce the same > pro

RE: [SAtalk] questions about bayes filters in spamassassin

2003-11-07 Thread Kevin Hanser
Title: Message Some additional information to add today... after updating SpamAssassin to 2.60 yesterday, I am now receiving this message when I try to run the nightly cron job to rebuild the bayes db:   /etc/cron.daily/sa-learn-rebuild: Cannot open bayes databases //.spamassassin/bayes_* R/

RE: [SAtalk] Abused redirector URLs ?

2003-11-07 Thread ian douglas
> since http://rd.yahoo.com/*http://taint.org works also Man, how hard would it be for Yahoo to look at an environment setting to determine which page referred the user's browser to this redirect, and NOT redirect if the previous page visited was not a Yahoo home page? Geez... Would stop this abus

[SAtalk] Newbie Questions

2003-11-07 Thread Chip Paswater
Hey Guys, I apologize if these questions are asked somewhere, but I did browse the FAQ and documentation and didn't see an answer. I have a good understanding of Razor v2, but I just started using SA. 1. When reporting spam via spamassassin -r, can I supply an mbox instead of a single message?

Re: [SAtalk] Delete spam mails

2003-11-07 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:09 PM 11/7/2003, Roberto Salazar wrote: I have Spamassasin with Postfix working . This server is a Gateway for others internal mail servers (in these are the users accounts). I need that spamassasin erase spam mails directly (DELETE FILTER ) in my server gateway and don't send mail to users

Re: [SAtalk] bayes_toks problem

2003-11-07 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Petre Bandac writes: > hello > > after using several times sa-learn ( I guess it learned by hand less than 50 > spam messages), I found spamassassing running for a very long time for a > single mail scan (cca 15 minutes). > > when I saw the size o

Re: [SAtalk] Re: 'random' character sets

2003-11-07 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Santerre writes: >You know, the answer to this, is the answer to many questions. The solution >is the much needed accumulator eval. Yes you can get some FPs on 3-5 >consonants. But what if you set this rule to only hit if 4+ hits were found >of

RE: [SAtalk] MAPS RBL+ in Spam Assassin

2003-11-07 Thread Gustafson, Tim
I think this is because Sendmail checks the current peer's IP address against the RBL, and SA scans all the Received: headers in the e-mail for matches. Tim -Original Message- From: Bill Polhemus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:39 AM To: 'Gustafson, Tim' Cc: [

Re: [SAtalk] Offsetting rules?

2003-11-07 Thread Greg Earle
Danita Zanre wrote: > Of course the real solution to this one is to get Spamcop to back off > on this particular listing. I find it outrageous myself. Even in the US > it's not always possible to get a fixed IP address in some locations for > small businesses and outside the US it's often simply n

Re: [SAtalk] scoring system and values...

2003-11-07 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:29 AM 11/7/2003, Maarten J H van den Berg wrote: Sorry if this has been discussed in the past... It's been discussed many times.. It's very common for people to have a very deep misunderstanding of how SA scoring works. Most people fall into the trap of over-simplifying the problem, and si

Re: [SAtalk] spamassassin headers and bayes

2003-11-07 Thread Edward Shornock
Theo Van Dinter wrote: On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 09:55:38AM -0500, Jean-S?bastien Guay-Leroux wrote: I have a mailbox of approximately 300 emails and I want to learn them using sa-learn. Prior to learning them, I tried doing a : `spamassassin --remove-markup < Mailbox` won't work. spamassassin

RE: [SAtalk] Abused redirector URLs ?

2003-11-07 Thread Mike Kuentz (2)
you could make it uri T_YAHOO_REDIR /^http:\/\/s?rd\.yahoo\.com\//i since http://rd.yahoo.com/*http://taint.org works also Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin Mason Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 11:26 PM To: Keit

[SAtalk] bayes_toks problem

2003-11-07 Thread Petre Bandac
hello after using several times sa-learn ( I guess it learned by hand less than 50 spam messages), I found spamassassing running for a very long time for a single mail scan (cca 15 minutes). when I saw the size of bayes_toks and bayes_toks.new (37, and 41 megs), I immediately deleted them and

Re: [SAtalk] Delete spam mails

2003-11-07 Thread mikea
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 12:09:58PM -0500, Roberto Salazar wrote: > Hi: > > I have Spamassasin with Postfix working . This server is a Gateway for > others internal mail servers (in these are the users accounts). > > I need that spamassasin erase spam mails directly (DELETE FILTER ) in my > serv

Re: [SAtalk] Delete spam mails

2003-11-07 Thread Chris Thielen
Roberto: This is a FAQ. The short version is: SpamAssassin doesn't delete mail, you have to configure your MTA to do that. See http://www.exit0.us/ for more info. Chris Roberto Salazar said: > Hi: > > I have Spamassasin with Postfix working . This server is a Gateway for > others internal mail

RE: [SAtalk] spamd startup script hangs system

2003-11-07 Thread Russell Mann
> RedHat 6.2, Perl 5.6.1, SpamAssassin 2.55 > > Hello, > > This morning I came into the office to find that qmail-scanner had gone > insane and lots all nights emails for me. I rebooted the system to try to > get everything back to ground zero. The problem was that the spamd init > script decided

[SAtalk] Delete spam mails

2003-11-07 Thread Roberto Salazar
Hi: I have Spamassasin with Postfix working . This server is a Gateway for others internal mail servers (in these are the users accounts). I need that spamassasin erase spam mails directly (DELETE FILTER ) in my server gateway and don't send mail to users (report of points) (FLAGS FILTER). It's

Re: SpamCop pre-emptive listings (RE: [SAtalk] Offsetting rules?)

2003-11-07 Thread Vivek Khera
> "KC" == Kelsey Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: KC> On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 08:48:44AM -0800, Bart Schaefer wrote: [[..]] >> >> Follow-ups have already raised issues such as "What if an ISP brings a new >> mail server on line?" KC> Then if used in a scoring system, you'll get some num

[SAtalk] scoring system and values...

2003-11-07 Thread Maarten J H van den Berg
Sorry if this has been discussed in the past... I'd like to bring up the subject of the scoring of different rules which have, IMHO, a very high likelyhood of being spam but are scored rather low. And I noticed a somewhat related fact, that there is no one rule that in itself decides somethin

Re: [SAtalk] MAPS RBL+ in Spam Assassin

2003-11-07 Thread Matt Kettler
At 08:51 AM 11/7/03 -0500, you wrote: I am new to Spam Assassin. I see that it checks e-mail against the MAPS databases, but that it does not appear to check the RBL+ database. Is there some way for me to add this check to the list? Well, SA does NOT check maps by default.. it's just got support

Re: [SAtalk] Razor slows down SA

2003-11-07 Thread Matt Kettler
At 08:38 AM 11/7/03 -0500, you wrote: I have noticed that RAzor2 is timing out and slowing down SA 2.6. Has something changed in the past few months that may have caused this? Maybe the razorzone has changed? I use razor2.cloudmark.com now. I don't think the zone itself is likely to change anytime

Re: [SAtalk] spamassassin headers and bayes

2003-11-07 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 09:55:38AM -0500, Jean-S?bastien Guay-Leroux wrote: > I have a mailbox of approximately 300 emails and I want to learn them using > sa-learn. Prior to learning them, I tried doing a : > > `spamassassin --remove-markup < Mailbox` won't work. spamassassin only does 1 mail

[SAtalk] spamassassin headers and bayes

2003-11-07 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay-Leroux
Hi, I have a mailbox of approximately 300 emails and I want to learn them using sa-learn. Prior to learning them, I tried doing a : `spamassassin --remove-markup < Mailbox` to remove any marks spamassassin did, so I won't poisoned the Bayes DB with invalid data. It didn't worked, all headers

RE: [SAtalk] Re: 'random' character sets

2003-11-07 Thread Chris Santerre
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 2:10 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] Re: 'random' character sets > > > On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 10:58:59 -0800, Greg Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > posted to spamassassin-

Re: [SAtalk] Ignore_user setting ?

2003-11-07 Thread Edward Shornock
Paul M wrote: Thanks for your advice Edward, after editing the local.cf file do I have to restart SA for the changes to take effect? If you have it running via spamd/spamc, yes. Restart spamd and all should be well. :) --- This SF.net em

[SAtalk] MAPS RBL+ in Spam Assassin

2003-11-07 Thread Gustafson, Tim
Hello I am new to Spam Assassin. I see that it checks e-mail against the MAPS databases, but that it does not appear to check the RBL+ database. Is there some way for me to add this check to the list? Thanks. Tim --- This SF.net email is sp

[SAtalk] spamd 2.6 using 85% of memory

2003-11-07 Thread B.G. Mahesh
hi I am using SA 2.6 on a Linux box [sendmail/procmail]. Things have been ok till now. Since 2 days spamd is taking up too much memory. We had 256 MB RAM, I increased both the RAM and Swap space today. Still things haven't improved. What could be wrong? Are there any files in .spammassassin dire

[SAtalk] Razor slows down SA

2003-11-07 Thread MIKE YRABEDRA
I have noticed that RAzor2 is timing out and slowing down SA 2.6. Has something changed in the past few months that may have caused this? Maybe the razorzone has changed? I use razor2.cloudmark.com now. I have googled this and cannot find any answers. +--

Re: [SAtalk] installation fails [perl]

2003-11-07 Thread Maarten J H van den Berg
I eventually found the reason for this behaviour after I noticed that root could start it okay, but the unpriv user spamd couldn't...: machine:~ # ls -la /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/Mail/SpamAssassin drwx--2 root root 942 Nov 7 11:45 . Yeah, d'oh, no wonder the modules

RE: [SAtalk] Multiple spaces on subject line (4+)

2003-11-07 Thread Colin A. Bartlett
Zak McGregor Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 3:12 AM > Is there a rule implemented that checks for this? Many spams have subject lines > of the form: > > "Ha1f Off Perscript1on Meds... [ mk" > "Your Very Own 'Life Soundtrack' VYiaBuvv" > "Re: Hydrocodoneb2cbr333" Yes, it's cal

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn via email

2003-11-07 Thread Scott Harris
I got tired of more or less manually grabbing ham and spam from special accounts and just implemented the public folder setup also. I created the ham and spam public folders for users to drag stuff into and then implemented the scripts at: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=spamassassin-talk&m=104806

[SAtalk] Multiple spaces on subject line (4+)

2003-11-07 Thread Zak McGregor
Hi all Is there a rule implemented that checks for this? Many spams have subject lines of the form: "Ha1f Off Perscript1on Meds... [ mk" "Your Very Own 'Life Soundtrack' VYiaBuvv" "Re: Hydrocodoneb2cbr333" etc etc. I find that in practice

[SAtalk] Re: (not) up to date SpamAssassin

2003-11-07 Thread Lukreme
On 05 Nov 2003, at 18:01, Matt Kettler wrote: CPAN thinks of them both as 2.60, and doesn't differentiate between finals and RC's. Ah... I thought CPAN was smarter than that. Thanks. -- The older you get the more you need the people you knew when you were young. -

[SAtalk] Re: 'random' character sets

2003-11-07 Thread era
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 10:58:59 -0800, Greg Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to spamassassin-talk: > A thought on spammers oft-used sets of 'random' character lists in > emails...an example: > > gnqplleqhzblll > u > wfjmvfe upvxoi lwhm > xqs > flckwrtsmufx irwajksqsnw er wcfjgfmk jugxfq H

[SAtalk] Re: which folder?

2003-11-07 Thread era
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 20:32:29 +0100, Jim Knuth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to spamassassin-talk: > Hallo und guten Abend Edward, >> Jim Knuth wrote: >>> of course, I use Debian too. Why read SA in two folders (configs)? >>> What is with /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf ? Ignore? Can I delete this?

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn doesn't work!

2003-11-07 Thread Bill Baker
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 11:49, Evan Platt wrote: > --On Wednesday, November 05, 2003 10:29 PM -0500 Bill Baker > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I received 3 identical spams from the same e-mail address that did not > > get classified as spam. I tried to do a sa-learn --spam on the message, > > an

[SAtalk] RE: OT : Antivirus ?

2003-11-07 Thread Nancy McGough
On 6 Nov 2003 Colin A. Bartlett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Rick [Kitty5] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 7:33 AM > > Any suggestions on how I can add some antivirus into the mix, as another > > procmail recipe perhaps? > > Check out ClamAV: http://clamav.elektrapro.com/ Other options are to u