[SAtalk] defang every (spam) mail

2003-09-20 Thread Robert Kehl
Hi all! I once had it, I think, but now it's gone: What are the correct settings for having spamassassin defang *every* spam mail, so I can view the spam contents safely as text/plain in the body of the mail. I can manage to add the message as a text/plain attachement, but would like to have the

RE: [SAtalk] 2.60 Doc Changes

2003-09-20 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Mike Loiterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That's where the problem was. I was always doing 'man > Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf'. The old 2.5x series of manuals is still > there when I use that command. I only get the new manuals when I do > 'perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf'. Have a botched par

RE: [SAtalk] 2.60 Doc Changes

2003-09-20 Thread Mike Loiterman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Quinlan wrote: > "Mike Loiterman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Where are the latest Docs for the 2.6x sereis? > > They are only in the release candidates. run: > > man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf > > or > > perldoc Mail::SpamAssassi

Re: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam

2003-09-20 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Sunday 21 September 2003 03:31, Mike Shkolnik wrote: > Any tips on how to auto-delete spam based on score without deleting all > spam? i belive http://www.mailscanner.info/ is for you on this :-) --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:Think

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Webmail system incorporating sa-learn

2003-09-20 Thread Robert Menschel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Chr., Saturday, September 20, 2003, 1:25:37 PM, you wrote: CvS> On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 05:47:36PM -0700, Robert Menschel wrote: CvS> ... RM>> something they want to teach SA about, they simply move or copy the RM>> email to that webmail folder

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin algorithm question.

2003-09-20 Thread Patrick Morris
Mark London wrote: Does spamassassin simply total up the scores of all the tests which are found to be valid for a message, or does it increase the score based on whether a combination of tests exist? Sometimes. SpamAssassin has both additive rules (each hit is worth a set number of points)

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin algorithm question.

2003-09-20 Thread Fred
Mark London wrote: > Does spamassassin simply total up the scores of all the tests which > are found to be valid for a message, correct > does spamassassin or another other software use > this type of reasoning? Just curious, because I often get low spam > scores for messages which are clearly s

Re: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam

2003-09-20 Thread Jim
On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 06:31:39PM -0700, Mike Shkolnik wrote: > Any tips on how to auto-delete spam based on score without deleting all > spam? > > Criteria: > Mark anything scoring 5 or above as Spam. (already doing that) > Delete anything scoring 15 or above FROM THE SERVER. (how?) > Spam scori

[SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam

2003-09-20 Thread Mike Shkolnik
Any tips on how to auto-delete spam based on score without deleting all spam? Criteria: Mark anything scoring 5 or above as Spam. (already doing that) Delete anything scoring 15 or above FROM THE SERVER. (how?) Spam scoring 5 to 14 is still delivered to the desktop and moved to a folder (already d

[SAtalk] Spamassassin algorithm question.

2003-09-20 Thread Mark London
Does spamassassin simply total up the scores of all the tests which are found to be valid for a message, or does it increase the score based on whether a combination of tests exist? I.e. the likelihood that a message is spam if it only tests positive for the GUARANTEE test might only be someth

[SAtalk] blocking executable's

2003-09-20 Thread Drew Wymore
I'm currently poking around the docs and looking for a test that will allow me to block all exe's ... I'm getting flooded today with virus emails grr... I'm on a nix box so its not so much an issue but does it up time on a dialup. I'm using a straight qmail/SA setup. If someone could point me in th

Re: [SAtalk] microsoft worm - working solution

2003-09-20 Thread Carlo Wood
That filters a lot more than just the worm. The MDS_Swen_A will be true with only one of MDS_Swen_A_3, MDS_Swen_A_6 or MDS_Swen_A_7 is true. Now each of those ALONE already filter millions of legal mail away that you might want to receive. -- Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---

Re: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam

2003-09-20 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Saturday, Sep 20th 2003 at 18:31 -0700, quoth Mike Shkolnik: =>Any tips on how to auto-delete spam based on score without deleting all =>spam? => =>Criteria: =>Mark anything scoring 5 or above as Spam. (already doing that) =>Delete anything scoring 15 or above FROM THE SERVER. (how?) =>Spam sco

[SAtalk] microsoft worm - working solution

2003-09-20 Thread Andreas Kotowicz
I found a posting in some newsgroup and modified the rules a bit. they work for me very nice. here you go: header MDS_Swen_A_0From=~ /(email|inet|internet|mail|microsoft|ms|net|network)/i header MDS_Swen_A_1From=~ /(section|service|system)/i header MDS_Sw

[SAtalk] Spamassassin and qmail?

2003-09-20 Thread Michael W. Cocke
I'm about to switch from sendmail to qmail and I was wondering if anyone could point me to a decent "how to" on configuring qmail and spamassassin. Thanks! Mike- Mornings: Evolution in action. Only the grumpy will survive. - Please note - D

Re: [SAtalk] 2.60 Doc Changes

2003-09-20 Thread Daniel Quinlan
"Mike Loiterman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Where are the latest Docs for the 2.6x sereis? They are only in the release candidates. run: man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf or perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf to read the configuration documentation if you have 2.60-rc6 installed. > I saw a

Re: [SAtalk] blocking executable's

2003-09-20 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Drew Wymore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm currently poking around the docs and looking for a test that will > allow me to block all exe's ... I'm getting flooded today with virus > emails grr... I'm on a nix box so its not so much an issue but does it > up time on a dialup. I'm using a straigh

Re: [SAtalk] New virus posing as Microsoft

2003-09-20 Thread Jim
On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 10:05:30AM -0400, Bruce Pennypacker wrote: > But the spamass-milter for sendmail DOES let you block e-mail if the SA > score is high enough. Steven may not have been entirely clear about > that, Right. And the problem is that it sounded exactly like all the other times

Re: [SAtalk] SA-2.60rc5 problem

2003-09-20 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 10:55:29AM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I installed 2.60rc5 yesterday (I had been running 2.60rc1) and since that time, > I am seeing the following in the paniclog output of my MTA: > > 2003-09-19 10:46:27 1A0FyE-000NcV-Do spam acl condition: cannot parse spamd outpu

[SAtalk] SpamAssassin 2.60 rc5

2003-09-20 Thread Peter P. Benac
Greeting, I just tried to install 2.60 via CPAN and all I get is 2.55. When will 2.60 rc5 be available from CPAN? Regards, Pete Peter P. Benac, CCNA Emacolet Networking Services, Inc Providing Systems and Network Consulting, Training, Web Hosting Services Phone: 919-847-1740 or 866-701-

[SAtalk] SA-2.60rc5 problem

2003-09-20 Thread Odhiambo Washington
Hello users, I installed 2.60rc5 yesterday (I had been running 2.60rc1) and since that time, I am seeing the following in the paniclog output of my MTA: 2003-09-19 10:46:27 1A0FyE-000NcV-Do spam acl condition: cannot parse spamd output 2003-09-19 10:46:27 1A0FyE-000NcV-Do spam acl condition: cann

[SAtalk] Re: Install problem

2003-09-20 Thread Malte S. Stretz
On Saturday 20 September 2003 22:51 CET Alastair Battrick wrote: > > > I'm having a problem installing SA 2.55 > >[...] > I have now tried this using a non-root user and the same problem occurs > > Anybody any more suggestions? Yes: Could you please have a try with SA 2.60-rc6 (stable enough for

Re: [SAtalk] Webmail system incorporating sa-learn

2003-09-20 Thread Robert Menschel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jefferson, Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 8:54:09 PM, you wrote: JC> ... is there a webmail system that incorporates sa-learn JC> functionality? I.e. a system that has a button that I can click to JC> say this is spam and it will be feed throug

Re: [SAtalk] Rule for MS Security Alert

2003-09-20 Thread Andreas Kotowicz
Hi, > I was just fiddling around and I entered a rule to catch some of the text in > the MS Security Alert patch but it never seems to go over the threshold. this is my ruleset. rawbody SWEN_FNAMES /(Patch516.exe|Q683158.exe|Q224439.exe)/ describeSWEN_FNAMES

[SAtalk] 2.60 Doc Changes

2003-09-20 Thread Mike Loiterman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Where are the latest Docs for the 2.6x sereis? I saw a mention in a post made to the list about something called: 'add_header all Report _REPORT_' for use in 2.6x. According to the mail, this replaced 'always_add_header 1'. I added add_header all

Re: [SAtalk] How to deal with the learning curve for spamassassin

2003-09-20 Thread Robert Menschel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Don, Saturday, September 20, 2003, 8:35:45 AM, you wrote: DS> a. How do you folks deal with the learning curve for spamassassin DS> ?... It's too very steep for a novice! DS> b. If spamassassin is already on your providers' system, how does t

RE: [SAtalk] Install problem

2003-09-20 Thread Alastair Battrick
> > I'm having a problem installing SA 2.55 > > > > The server is running Redhat 7.2 (I think) has 256Mb RAM and > plenty of spare > > disk space. > > > > When I go to cpan, I can get and make Mail::SpamAssassin no > problems, but > > when I 'make test' I get this: > > [snip..] > > t/razor2.

Re: [SAtalk] Webmail system incorporating sa-learn

2003-09-20 Thread Chr. von Stuckrad
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 05:47:36PM -0700, Robert Menschel wrote: ... > something they want to teach SA about, they simply move or copy the email > to that webmail folder. I then have a cron job which scans these folders > once an hour, and feeds any non-empty folders into sa-learn. Isnt't this a

Re: [SAtalk] Negative score from spamd, positive from spamassassin script

2003-09-20 Thread up
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003, Fred I-IS.COM wrote: > I noticed a small difference, I don't know if this has something to do with > it, but in the bottom message, with -7.7, where are the other SA headers? > Like which tests fired? the -7.7 was from spamd/spamc, and the only SA headers I get from that ar

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin 2.60 rc5

2003-09-20 Thread Martin Radford
At Fri Sep 19 01:59:54 2003, Peter P. Benac wrote: > > Greeting, > > I just tried to install 2.60 via CPAN and all I get is 2.55. When will > 2.60 rc5 be available from CPAN? I believe the developers have a policy of not submitting release candidates to CPAN. When 2.60 is released, I'm sur

Re: [SAtalk] Using Procmail with SpamAssassin for redirecting spam email...

2003-09-20 Thread Jim
On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 02:33:45PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > All email that is tagged/flagged as spam, will be sent to a specific email > account on the mail server, not the mail gateway. Then, I can log in with > the specified account on the mail server, and review the email that has > bee

Re: [SAtalk] Grrr...Bayes db corrupted again!

2003-09-20 Thread Daniel Quinlan
up wrote: >> The last time this happened, the only way I could get sa-learn to start >> working again was to remove _journal, _msgcount, _seen and _toks, which >> presumably wipes out all existing bayes data. Is there a better way? Abigail Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Same issue - on

Re: [SAtalk] Negative score from spamd, positive from spamassassin script

2003-09-20 Thread Fred I-IS.COM
I noticed a small difference, I don't know if this has something to do with it, but in the bottom message, with -7.7, where are the other SA headers? Like which tests fired? Frederic Tarasevicius Internet Information Services, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've been getting some spams coming

[SAtalk] Using Procmail with SpamAssassin for redirecting spam email...

2003-09-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello everyone. Well, after getting some great help from people on this board, I was able to setup postfix ans spamassassin (running as spamd) to work together. My current setup for SA and postfix is on a mail gateway. All email is piped through SA and then back to postfix, THEN relayed to my int

Re: [SAtalk] Maintaining a list of IP numbers

2003-09-20 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Jack L. Stone wrote on Sat, 20 Sep 2003 10:08:51 -0500: > Research has led me to believe that the "envelope from" is the most > reliable source of the actual sender. I am prepared to be corrected > though and would like to be. > However, in the case of a spamming virus or a spammer the sender

[SAtalk] Negative score from spamd, positive from spamassassin script

2003-09-20 Thread up
I've been getting some spams coming in with negative scores like this -7.7, but when I run it through the spamassassin debugger, it comes out with a modest postive score of 3.7. I'm not using any user prefs, either. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Sep 19 23:36:23 2003 Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[SAtalk] "Microsoft Patch" mail.

2003-09-20 Thread Thomas Cameron
I know, I know, SA is not supposed to be used as a virus filter. Having said that, it is an awesome tool for blocking unwanted e-mail. It so happens that many viruses (notably the recent bogus MS update) are delivered via unwanted e-mail. I just wanted to say that at my site, I have fed the lite

Re: [SAtalk] New virus posing as Microsoft

2003-09-20 Thread Jim
On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 11:37:09AM -0400, Steven W. Orr wrote: > SA does not block mail. It tags mail. Then you can do whatever you want > with that tagging. Precisely. > By using spamass-milter you have the option of rejecting the > message before reception completes. This way, the spammer kn

RE: [SAtalk] Question for the FAQ

2003-09-20 Thread Chris Santerre
You can see some of the custom virus rules at www.exit0.us I don't believe you will ever see them in releases of spamassassin. But you can always add the ones that are custom written. It just has to do with semantics. It is called Spamassassin, and that has to be its main focus. > -Original

Re: [SAtalk] How to deal with the learning curve for spamassassin

2003-09-20 Thread Jim
On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 11:35:45AM -0400, Don Saklad wrote: > b. If spamassassin is already on your providers' system, how does the novice user >configure things not knowing how to write dotfiles?... You might try encouraging them to set up a web interface for it. There are some nice pre-writ

Re: [SAtalk] New virus posing as Microsoft

2003-09-20 Thread Jim
On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 11:23:32AM -0400, Larry Gilson wrote: > However, not everyone > uses Procmail. So for those who do not use an AV product and do not use > Procmail, it is certainly reasonable to try to accomplish this with SA > regardless of your configuration. Posting a request to see if

[SAtalk] SAproxy+Outlook Express and manual learning

2003-09-20 Thread Ken Mattsson
I installed SAproxy yesterday and use it for marking spam, then filter these messages out with a simple filter in Outlook Express. I looked at the faq, but didn´t find out how I could easily mark single e-mail messages correctly, that has been downloaded with POP3 to Outlook Express, but wrongly m

Re: [SAtalk] New virus posing as Microsoft

2003-09-20 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Saturday, Sep 20th 2003 at 15:12 -, quoth Jim: =>On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 10:05:42AM -0500, Jack L. Stone wrote: =>> At the risk of being snapped at, I use apamass-milter to block at a certain =>> spam threshhold. So, doesn't it get that score weight from SA.??? I'm =>> blocking a huge a

RE: [SAtalk] New virus posing as Microsoft

2003-09-20 Thread Larry Gilson
Along this thread . . . Not everyone uses an anti-virus package. I run a Postfix relay in front of Exchange servers. I use Sybari AV on the Exchange side which allows me to use up to 4 separate scan engines and apply in multiple locations of transport. Each scan location allows for custom weigh

[SAtalk] How to deal with the learning curve for spamassassin

2003-09-20 Thread Don Saklad
a. How do you folks deal with the learning curve for spamassassin ?... It's too very steep for a novice! b. If spamassassin is already on your providers' system, how does the novice user configure things not knowing how to write dotfiles?... .

Re: [SAtalk] Maintaining a list of IP numbers

2003-09-20 Thread Jack L. Stone
At 02:41 PM 9.20.2003 +0200, Kristian Koehntopp wrote: > >Hi! > >I have analyzed the latest Swen wave, and it seems that I >receive many mails from a very small set of machines. > >I am about to modify my spamd in a way that it maintains a list >(a dbm actually) of IP-numbers it received spam from

RE: [SAtalk] New virus posing as Microsoft

2003-09-20 Thread Larry Gilson
> -Original Message- > From: Steven W. Orr > Also, if anyone else would like to take a stab at a recipe > for what I'm describing I'd still be grateful. I'm getting about > 10/hour of these things. I keep on running them all through sa- > learn but that doesn't help because they don't

Re: [SAtalk] New virus posing as Microsoft

2003-09-20 Thread Jim
On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 10:05:42AM -0500, Jack L. Stone wrote: > At the risk of being snapped at, I use apamass-milter to block at a certain > spam threshhold. So, doesn't it get that score weight from SA.??? I'm > blocking a huge amount of spams with spamass-milter this way. That stops > them

Re: [SAtalk] New virus posing as Microsoft

2003-09-20 Thread Jack L. Stone
At 01:35 PM 9.20.2003 +, Jim wrote: >On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 09:30:27AM -0400, Steven W. Orr wrote: >> So what I was asking for was a rule to add to my local.cf which would >> recognize the fact that the remaining elements of the virus that're >> getting through contain a MIME attachment of t

Re: [SAtalk] New virus posing as Microsoft

2003-09-20 Thread Jim
On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 10:03:09AM -0400, Bruce Pennypacker wrote: > also block obvious spam if the SA score is extremely high. It's a > feature of the spamass-milter for sendmail. That's fine, but that wasn't what he asked about explicitly; and he can't expect everyone to run and look up how sp

Re: [SAtalk] New virus posing as Microsoft

2003-09-20 Thread Bruce Pennypacker
Steven W. Orr wrote: On Saturday, Sep 20th 2003 at 03:47 -, quoth Jim: =>On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 10:56:19PM -0400, Steven W. Orr wrote: =>> No. I'm running sendmail with spamass-milter. I don not want to do it in =>> procmail or postfix. I want to do it in SA. => =>Then you either don't yet u

Re: [SAtalk] New virus posing as Microsoft

2003-09-20 Thread Bruce Pennypacker
Jim wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 09:30:27AM -0400, Steven W. Orr wrote: So what I was asking for was a rule to add to my local.cf which would recognize the fact that the remaining elements of the virus that're getting through contain a MIME attachment of type Application/X-MSDOWNLOAD and the

Re: [SAtalk] New virus posing as Microsoft

2003-09-20 Thread Jim
On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 09:30:27AM -0400, Steven W. Orr wrote: > So what I was asking for was a rule to add to my local.cf which would > recognize the fact that the remaining elements of the virus that're > getting through contain a MIME attachment of type Application/X-MSDOWNLOAD > and the file

Re: [SAtalk] New virus posing as Microsoft

2003-09-20 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Saturday, Sep 20th 2003 at 03:47 -, quoth Jim: =>On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 10:56:19PM -0400, Steven W. Orr wrote: =>> No. I'm running sendmail with spamass-milter. I don not want to do it in =>> procmail or postfix. I want to do it in SA. => =>Then you either don't yet understand what SA is

[SAtalk] Maintaining a list of IP numbers

2003-09-20 Thread Kristian Koehntopp
Hi! I have analyzed the latest Swen wave, and it seems that I receive many mails from a very small set of machines. I am about to modify my spamd in a way that it maintains a list (a dbm actually) of IP-numbers it received spam from as well as the time_t the spam was being received. I also plan

Re: [SAtalk] New virus posing as Microsoft

2003-09-20 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, Steven W. Orr wrote: > But I don't want to block with a procmail rule. I want to block it with an > SA rule. In fact, I don't even use procmail. I use spamass-milter. I want > all my spam to be rejected before it gets in. I realize this isn't what you asked for, but this is t

Re: [SAtalk] core DONOT_REPLY 1.5

2003-09-20 Thread Martin Radford
At Fri Sep 19 22:49:39 2003, Carl R. Friend wrote: > body UNMONITORED_EMAIL /unmonitored e-mail address/i > describe UNMONITORED_EMAIL States that the address is not monitored > > score UNMONITORED_EMAIL 3.7 > >Yes, I know that the 3.7 for "UNMONITORED_EMAIL" seems a we

Re: [SAtalk] Any ideas????

2003-09-20 Thread Martin Radford
At Thu Sep 18 15:03:43 2003, Chris Santerre wrote: > > I believe it was too big for SA to scan. But if it did, there are some spam > signs below. > ... > > Received: from [66.254.7.10] by 209.83.8.50 with ESMTP id > > I always wondered why SA didn't have an eval to see that the IPs didn't > m

Re: [SAtalk] Rule for MS Security Alert

2003-09-20 Thread Andreas Kotowicz
Hi, > I know I should be using an anti-virus, but it should still work, no? > > Well, here's my rule. It looks simple enough to me: > > body IAW_GENERAL19_RULE /latest version of security/i > score IAW_GENERAL19_RULE 20.0 > describe IAW_GENERAL19_RULE This is the GENERAL 19 Rule > > I bump

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin & Q-Mail "Proxy" Server

2003-09-20 Thread daniel lance herrick
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Christopher Tarricone wrote: > I am going to be setting up a q-mail ³proxy² server in between the Internet > and one of my Exchange servers. I am using qmail and qmail-scanner to handle > viruses and I have other mail server that simply use q-mail, courier, SA and > QSS. There

Re: [SAtalk] Free ISP access to Cloudmark rating program

2003-09-20 Thread Daniel Quinlan
SpamTalk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > quoting from //www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB20030918S0012 > > "The Rating program is available for free to major Internet service > providers and web-based email providers, but, no deals have been reached" > > I am not sure if Net56 qualifies as "major", b