Re: [SAtalk] garbage

2003-09-01 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:16 PM 9/1/2003 -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: I've been seeing more and more spam using sequences of garbage character strings; I'm guessing to get around Bayesian filtering? Also the obfuscating comments seem to contain garbage strings, but the existing rule finds those pretty well. Is anyb

Re: [SAtalk] Using spamc

2003-09-01 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:51:44 -0700 "Lee Mahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am trying to develop a connection with spam assassin where the > mail message is contained in a MySQL database using either PHP or > Perl. Perhaps I'm too tired or just haven't had enough coffee, but I > can't s

[SAtalk] A quick look at differences between 2.55 and 2.60 (rc4) - rules/scores

2003-09-01 Thread Gary Funck
[below, words containing a well-known spam word, were changed to NIAGRA, in order to make it past Source Forge's lame spam filters.] I was curious to get a feeling for the differences bwtween the 2.55 release and the upcoming 2.60 release, and gathered the following brief statistics. New rules in

RE: [SAtalk] New test proposal

2003-09-01 Thread Larry Gilson
Hi Justin, > -Original Message- > From: Justin Mason > > > Can you name a single nonspam mail sender who doesn't have a > > > Date: header in the message when he delivers it to the MTA? > > > > > > No message-id is somewhat common for mass mailings (spam or > > > nonspam) but I've never

Re: [SAtalk] Problem with a rule

2003-09-01 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
Larry Gilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi David, > > > -Original Message- > > From: David Dyer-Bennet > > > # Down-score foreign sources > > header DDB_FOREIGN_FROM From =~ /\.[a-z]{2}[, ]/i > > describe DDB_FOREIGN_FROM From includes two-char TLD > > score DDB_FOREIGN_

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes and whitelisting

2003-09-01 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 17:50 1/09/2003 +0200, Carlo Wood wrote: On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 04:31:34PM +0200, Kai Schaetzl wrote: > > whitelisted mails should not be auto learned. > > That is just what Simon said and SA does. Oh... sorry. He said S> Please check the docs, Bayes auto_learn does not take notice of S> whit

RE: [SAtalk] spamd & user_prefs

2003-09-01 Thread Larry Gilson
Hi Louis, Please forgive the delay in responding. I was out of touch for a period of time. > -Original Message- > From: Louis LeBlanc > After rereading a lot of procmail docs, I've found that the exitcode > is saved when the 'w' flag is used in the procmail recipe as follows: I was mo

Re: [SAtalk] Problem with a rule

2003-09-01 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
Martin Radford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 1 September 2003 at 20:36:54 +0100 > At Mon Sep 1 18:14:56 2003, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > > > # Down-score foreign sources > > header DDB_FOREIGN_FROMFrom =~ /\.[a-z]{2}[, ]/i > > This won't match > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [SAtalk] Problem with a rule

2003-09-01 Thread Martin Radford
At Mon Sep 1 18:14:56 2003, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > # Down-score foreign sources > header DDB_FOREIGN_FROM From =~ /\.[a-z]{2}[, ]/i This won't match From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps you could try: header DDB_FOREIGN_FROM From =~ /\.[a-z

[SAtalk] How to catch Multi-multi-Part Messages ???

2003-09-01 Thread Spamassassin-Talk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've bet these sort of msgs. came across your system, but usual body/rawbody rules do not work! (Lucky enough, BAYES does the trick...) Any ideas??? Here is such a thing: Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from mx.expurgate.net (mx.expur

RE: [SAtalk] Problem with a rule

2003-09-01 Thread Larry Gilson
Hi David, > -Original Message- > From: David Dyer-Bennet > # Down-score foreign sources > header DDB_FOREIGN_FROM From =~ /\.[a-z]{2}[, ]/i > describe DDB_FOREIGN_FROM From includes two-char TLD > score DDB_FOREIGN_FROM 0.1 > > # Up-score okay English TLDs > header DDB_

Re: [SAtalk] How to identify attachments with PIF extensions?

2003-09-01 Thread Ryan Bingham
MailScanner has built-in filetype and file extension filters. It also supports multiple anti-virus engines and uses SpamAssassin for spam protection Best of all, it's easy to set up! www.mailscanner.info Ryan Bob Apthorpe wrote: Hi, On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 14:19:32 +0530 "BG Mahesh" <[EMAIL PR

[SAtalk] Problem with a rule

2003-09-01 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
I'm playing with a rule to slightly downscore mail from two-character domains (i.e. country TLDs). Setting aside the question of whether such a rule could possibly help (I certainly don't recommend it generally; I do think it may fit my situation)...I can't get it to work. I've written several ot

[SAtalk] garbage

2003-09-01 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
I've been seeing more and more spam using sequences of garbage character strings; I'm guessing to get around Bayesian filtering? Also the obfuscating comments seem to contain garbage strings, but the existing rule finds those pretty well. Is anybody working on a rule for lots of garbage words in

Re: [SAtalk] How to identify attachments with PIF extensions?

2003-09-01 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 14:19:32 +0530 "BG Mahesh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I want to add a rule to assign higher points if the email has an > attachment with PIF extension. How do I do that? [I am using > SA-2.55+procmail] To solve the general problem of email-borne malware, you might filte

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes and whitelisting

2003-09-01 Thread Carlo Wood
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 04:31:34PM +0200, Kai Schaetzl wrote: > > whitelisted mails should not be auto learned. > > That is just what Simon said and SA does. Oh... sorry. He said S> Please check the docs, Bayes auto_learn does not take notice of S> whitelisting: (from man Mail::SpamAssassin::C

Re: [SAtalk] -d --lint scores ?

2003-09-01 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Matt Kettler wrote on Sun, 31 Aug 2003 00:17:17 -0400: > Based on that, it should probably get a nonspam bayes score.. > Yes, that is what I wanted to know. I once thought SA were using the sample-spam.txt file, but it doesn't, so I was wondering what it actually uses and if it should score mor

[SAtalk] Bayes stats in 2.60rc3

2003-09-01 Thread Roedel, Mark
Upgraded to RC3 late last week, and rather than doing the little import/rebuild dance, I just wiped my Bayes databases to let the system re-auto-learn. The Bayes subsystem itself seems to be working fine -- the files are growing, and I'm seeing messages with the Bayes tags in their headers. But w

Re: [SAtalk] New test proposal

2003-09-01 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Matt Kettler wrote on Sun, 31 Aug 2003 00:21:05 -0400: > No message-id is somewhat common for mass mailings (spam or nonspam) > yes, but a Date-warning: Date header was inserted by mxout2.netvision.net.il ??? How many mails bear this header? Also, many formmailers don't insert a Date but let th

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes and whitelisting

2003-09-01 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Carlo Wood wrote on Mon, 1 Sep 2003 14:47:56 +0200: > whitelisted mails should not be auto learned. > That is just what Simon said and SA does. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com IE-Center: http://ie5.de & http://msie.win

Re: [SAtalk] plz help? question regarding to from and expressions.

2003-09-01 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:33 AM 9/1/03 -0600, Alan Fullmer wrote: I guess essentially what I am trying to do is check the reply to: because I am getting a lot of spoofs there, and it whitelists it. has anyone found a way around this? Use whitelist_from_rcvd, not whitelist_from -

Re: [SAtalk] SQL

2003-09-01 Thread Jonas Pasche
Hi Ray, > Yes you are correct. sample-spam.txt is just a plain text file. Please use a real mail message for your tests, e.g. the sample-spam.txt from your SpamAssassin source tarball. > If i add the -u option for spamc, I still get the same display, no > indication of it quering SQL for prefere

Re: [SAtalk] SQL

2003-09-01 Thread Carlo Wood
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 11:11:18PM -0400, Ray Parish wrote: > Yes you are correct. sample-spam.txt is just a plain text file. > If i add the -u option for spamc, I still get the same display, no > indication of it quering SQL for preferences. You didn't answer his question. He asked: What happens

Re: [SAtalk] SQL

2003-09-01 Thread Ray Parish
Yes you are correct. sample-spam.txt is just a plain text file. If i add the -u option for spamc, I still get the same display, no indication of it quering SQL for preferences. - Original Message - From: "Jonas Pasche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 31,

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes and whitelisting

2003-09-01 Thread Carlo Wood
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 02:53:36PM +1200, Simon Byrnand wrote: > Please check the docs, Bayes auto_learn does not take notice of > whitelisting: (from man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf) Well, actually I saw that, but I couldn't believe it :) whitelisted mails should not be auto learned. If the develo

Re: [SAtalk] plz help? question regarding to from and expressions.

2003-09-01 Thread Fred
In order to get around this trick, I added a meta test which checked for the presence of our IP blocks in the received header, if found, do nothing, if missing, score enough to over-ride the white-list. Then play cleanup with those using other connectivity. Frederic Tarasevicius Internet Informat

Re: [SAtalk] plz help? question regarding to from and expressions.

2003-09-01 Thread Alan Fullmer
I guess essentially what I am trying to do is check the reply to: because I am getting a lot of spoofs there, and it whitelists it. has anyone found a way around this? - Original Message - From: "Matt Kettler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Alan Fullmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTE

[SAtalk] How to identify attachments with PIF extensions?

2003-09-01 Thread BG Mahesh
hi I want to add a rule to assign higher points if the email has an attachment with PIF extension. How do I do that? [I am using SA-2.55+procmail] -- B.G. Mahesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.indiainfo.com/ -- __ http://www.indiainfo.com Now with POP

Re: [SAtalk] plz help? question regarding to from and expressions.

2003-09-01 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:05 PM 8/31/03 -0600, Alan Fullmer wrote: I'm trying to learn how to write certain expressions. I've tried several ways to do this, but have come to the conclusion i am a noob at this. I am trying to write a rule that checks to see if the Return-Path: =equals= the To: if Return-Path == T

Re: [SAtalk] OSIRUSOFT

2003-09-01 Thread Bob Proulx
Bob Apthorpe wrote: > Richard Ahlquist wrote: > > The only gotchyas are how to maintain it. Who decides who is on it > > and when they come off. > > Balancing anonymity and trust is difficult ... I prefer the benevolent dictator approach, where I get to choose and to ignore the dictators of my ch

Re: [SAtalk] OSIRUSOFT

2003-09-01 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:39:16 -0400 "Richard Ahlquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is similar to something I suggested on /. the other day though I must > confess you have put far more thought into it than I have. A P2P distributed > blacklist could defeat the DDOS attacks centralized se

RE: [SAtalk] OSIRUSOFT

2003-09-01 Thread Richard Ahlquist
Bob, This is similar to something I suggested on /. the other day though I must confess you have put far more thought into it than I have. A P2P distributed blacklist could defeat the DDOS attacks centralized servers are subject to. The only gotchyas are how to maintain it. Who decides who is on

[SAtalk] mqueue overflowing

2003-09-01 Thread Danny Schulman
Hello,   My mqueue directory is overflowing with the files probably-spam and definitly-spam. The mail I'm getting through for my users and myself is fine so I guess I just plan to delete these files. Is there something or some program that process them I should use?   Thanks   Danny

[SAtalk] plz help? question regarding to from and expressions.

2003-09-01 Thread Alan Fullmer
  I'm trying to learn how to write certain expressions.   I've tried several ways to do this, but have come to the conclusion i am a noob at this.   I am trying to write a rule that checks to see if the  Return-Path: =equals= the To:   if Return-Path == To   If someone could help me out, I'd

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes and whitelisting

2003-09-01 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 02:14 1/09/2003 +0200, Carlo Wood wrote: Hi all, it is not clear to me how SA handles white listing. Normally, one does not want to use a white-listed mail to update the Bayes classifier because once white-listed the mail could contain ANYTHING. However, it appears that the whitelisting only s

Re: [SAtalk] Documentation: autolearn cutoff values in 2.60-rc3

2003-09-01 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 14:53 29/08/2003 -0500, Henrik Schmiediche wrote: Hello, The documentation for 2.60-rc3 claims the bayes auto learn cutoff values are -2 & 15. I think they have been changed to 0.1 and 12. Is that correct? Yep, Looks like you spotted a Documentation bug I'll put a bugzilla ticket in

[SAtalk] Bayes and whitelisting

2003-09-01 Thread Carlo Wood
Hi all, it is not clear to me how SA handles white listing. Normally, one does not want to use a white-listed mail to update the Bayes classifier because once white-listed the mail could contain ANYTHING. However, it appears that the whitelisting only subtracks 100 points from the score, resulti

[SAtalk] Chucking by attachment name

2003-09-01 Thread Tim Connolly
Has anyone devised a plan to chuck all the email with attachments matching a list of known viral names? Like thank_you/pif ...etc.. Using procmail/SA2.55 --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://think

Re: [SAtalk] Bug: Failed to create default user preference file //.spamassassin/user_prefs

2003-09-01 Thread Carlo Wood
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 12:35:23PM -0400, Matt Kettler wrote: > At 01:50 PM 8/31/2003 +0200, Carlo Wood wrote: > >What does it use to determine the users home directory? > > SpamAssassin uses ~/ to determine the home directory of the current user. > And yes, that is standardized and should be imp