Re: [SAtalk] In need of very basic HELP

2002-04-02 Thread Craig Hughes
The trouble is though Chris that SA keeps trying to do things like open $HOME/.spamassassin (what's $HOME set to under cygwin?), or open a connection to syslog on localhost (does cygwin redirect syslog stuff to the Event log or something?). I think the problem is not so much that it won't run on

Re: [SAtalk] Spamd and memory

2002-04-02 Thread Craig Hughes
On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 17:11, Duncan Findlay wrote: > The only problems come when you get "spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn- > spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn- > spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-crash-and-burn" as > soon as fetchmail k

Re: [SAtalk] What does spamassassin -r actually do?

2002-04-02 Thread Craig Hughes
Yes, I'd say relay reporting is outside the scope of SA. Even razor reporting is a little dodgy, given that Razor has its own program to do exactly that. But razor reporting is in there already, so I probably won't take it out. C On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 16:33, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Tue, Ap

Re: [SAtalk] What does spamassassin -r actually do?

2002-04-02 Thread Gregor Lawatscheck
At 23:33 02/04/2002, you wrote: >I wrote a fairly decent script that automates the handling of spam >messages (reports to razor, does the open relay check and reports to as >many openrelay sites as you want, reports to spam cop, spits out entries >for a sendmail accessdb, etc.): > http://w

[SAtalk] more razor problems

2002-04-02 Thread Eric S. Johansson
I didn't see the warnings about 1.20 razor in time and now I am well and truly hosed. I installed 1.19 over 1.20 (never did figure how to uninstall perl-hairballs) and now I get.. [esj@harvee esj]$ cat IMap/00missedspam | formail -s spamassassin -rRD debug: using "/usr/share/spamassassin" for

Re: [SAtalk] In need of very basic HELP

2002-04-02 Thread Christopher Faylor
[Reply-to set to mailing list] On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 10:06:39AM -0800, Sidney Markowitz wrote: >On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 09:53, S?ren Boll Overgaard wrote: >> Not everybody watches good morning america. I, for one, do not. >> Sorry for the misguided attempt to be helpful. > >At the risk of being of

[SAtalk] Handling reporting

2002-04-02 Thread Ken Causey
Related to an earlier message I sent the list. I'm working with a small ISP to improve their spam handling. I've got them on track to using spamassassin very soon. One of the issues is giving the users the ability to report spam that is missed so that it can be reported. We've decided to handl

Re: [SAtalk] spamd ran out of control

2002-04-02 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 09:59:44PM +0100, Sean Rima wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I got back from a trip this evening and the mail box was running so many > childs of spamd that the mail box was unreachable. I cannot trace back > to see where the box when hey wire b

Re: SpamAssassin for Hire - was RE: [SAtalk] In need of very basic HELP

2002-04-02 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 02:29:01AM -0700, Michael Moncur wrote: > Rich Wellner writes: > > You might also consider setting up an email service for $5 a month or > > so that runs spamassassin. I'd be willing to help if you are > > interested but don't have time. > > I've actually been planning to

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin and .qmail files

2002-04-02 Thread Matthew Cline
On Tuesday 02 April 2002 12:45 pm, Jose Morales wrote: > Hello list... How can I use SpamAssassin with > .qmail-default file Put something like: |~/develop/spamassassin/spamassassin -c ~/develop/spamassassin/rules into .qmail-default -- Visit http://dmoz.org, the world's | Give a man a

Re: [SAtalk] Spamd and memory

2002-04-02 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 01:00:12PM -0500, Craig Hughes wrote: > On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 04:27, Matt Sergeant wrote: > > AHA Lists wrote: > > > I am running spamd on my redhat 6 box and spamd is taking up 5.3% memory. > > > IS this normal? > > > > > > root 3401 0.0 5.3 7848 6792 ?S

Re: [SAtalk] Re: CVS Rules site [was Freedom of Press / Speech / Junk Mail (yah right)]

2002-04-02 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 08:52:44AM +0100, Matt Sergeant wrote: > Craig Hughes wrote: > >Well, one issue is that rules are sometimes evals, with corresponding > >updates to Mail::Spamassassin::EvalTests > > Then EvalTests should move from being a .pm module to being another .rc > file that gets e

Re: [SAtalk] What does spamassassin -r actually do?

2002-04-02 Thread Nix
On 02 Apr 2002, Ken Causey muttered drunkenly: > I'm wondering what reporting spamassassin -r actually does. I realize > that it reports to the razor database. I'm wondering what else. Nothing else, at present. >whether or not it attempts to detect > relayin

RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin and .qmail files

2002-04-02 Thread Dallas Engelken
> Hello list... How can I use SpamAssassin with > .qmail-default file and vpopmail without > qmail-scanner. It would be to your advantage to read the archives. Refer to my 2 posts from 03/29/02 http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/11679/2002/3/50/8247915/ http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/116

Re: [SAtalk] What does spamassassin -r actually do?

2002-04-02 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 03:00:51PM -0600, Ken Causey wrote: > I'm wondering what reporting spamassassin -r actually does. I realize > that it reports to the razor database. I'm wondering what else. In > particular, I'm very interested in whether or not it attempts to detect > relaying and repor

[SAtalk] What does spamassassin -r actually do?

2002-04-02 Thread Ken Causey
I'm wondering what reporting spamassassin -r actually does. I realize that it reports to the razor database. I'm wondering what else. In particular, I'm very interested in whether or not it attempts to detect relaying and reports possible open relay servers to services such as ordb. If not cur

[SAtalk] spamd ran out of control

2002-04-02 Thread Sean Rima
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I got back from a trip this evening and the mail box was running so many childs of spamd that the mail box was unreachable. I cannot trace back to see where the box when hey wire but as soon as I closed the master spamd, the box came back into control

Re: [SAtalk] How to specify custom rules?

2002-04-02 Thread David Coppit
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Rob McMillin wrote: > There is already a "funky character set" test; see > CHARSET_FARAWAY_BODY. It doesn't work because it doesn't parse MIME > correctly. I see. Is there a workaround in the meantime? I'd be happy with CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER, but that rule doesn't seem to f

[SAtalk] Spamassassin and .qmail files

2002-04-02 Thread Jose Morales
Hello list... How can I use SpamAssassin with .qmail-default file and vpopmail without qmail-scanner. Regards. Jose Morales __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ _

Re: [SAtalk] spamc & procmail

2002-04-02 Thread Craig Hughes
Yeah, you're wrong. spamc will automagically pass the username it's executing as to spamd. So spamc -u $LOGNAME is identical to spamc. spamc -u somethingelse is however not the same as spamc by itself. So the distinction is based on what userID spamc is running as. I myself use spamc -u becau

Re: [SAtalk] spamc & procmail

2002-04-02 Thread Olivier Nicole
> (Get rid of -u $LOGNAME -- it's deprecated anyways) Depending on your settings, the -u option may be the ONLY way for spamc/spamd to create the user_pref files. And the setting I am thinking about is when the user's dir are NFS mounted on the mail server, from another machine, and that they ar

Re: [SAtalk] Current CVS spamd hangs

2002-04-02 Thread Phydeaux
At 12:56 PM 4/2/2002 -0500, you wrote: >It's almost certainly a rule with a "bad" regex -- could you send me an >email with attached a sample of an email that causes the high cpu usage? Once it starts -- shortly after I put up the CVS version almost every piece of mail seems to get stuck. I had

Re: [SAtalk] How to specify custom rules?

2002-04-02 Thread Rob McMillin
Tony L. Svanstrom wrote: >On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 the voices made Rob McMillin write: > >>There is already a "funky character set" test; see CHARSET_FARAWAY_BODY. >> > > But no "funky e-mailaddresses"? I got an e-mail with a from that was something >like Å"Å"Å"@something.tld; and I was surprised that

RE: [SAtalk] Razor::Client

2002-04-02 Thread Maurits Bloos
Please ... please ... put the downgrade to Razor 1.19 in the FAQ until the next stable version has all the 'razor' bugs worked out ... > -Original Message- > From: Craig Hughes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: dinsdag 2 april 2002 20:06 > To: Bradley Glonka > Cc: SpamAssassin Users > S

Re: [SAtalk] spamproxyd issue with 'spamaddr@example.com' ...

2002-04-02 Thread Craig Hughes
File a bugzilla ticket on it, and attach the patch, then assign the ticket to me. C On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 10:12, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Jim Holmes wrote: > > > --On Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:21 AM -0400 "Marc G. Fournier" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Jus

Re: [SAtalk] Razor::Client

2002-04-02 Thread Craig Hughes
Looks like the solution is right there to me. Is there some way I could make it more apparent? No point having the FAQ if people are seeing it, but not finding the answer! C FAQ I'm having trouble with Razor 1.20 and SpamAssassin. Help! SpamAssassin claims that Razor is not installed when it

Re: [SAtalk] Spamd and memory

2002-04-02 Thread Craig Hughes
On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 04:27, Matt Sergeant wrote: > AHA Lists wrote: > > I am running spamd on my redhat 6 box and spamd is taking up 5.3% memory. > > IS this normal? > > > > root 3401 0.0 5.3 7848 6792 ?S08:44 0:00 perl > > /usr/bin/spamd -d -c -a > > > > This is Perl. It

Re: [SAtalk] src:cid (was Re: More thoughts)

2002-04-02 Thread Craig Hughes
No, it's not spam. It's stuff like views into SAP systems, supply chain exception notices, things like that. Definitely stuff you don't want to not get in your inbox immediately. C On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 04:13, Matt Sergeant wrote: > Craig Hughes wrote: > > Update from Silicon Valley: I've seen

Re: [SAtalk] Current CVS spamd hangs

2002-04-02 Thread Craig Hughes
It's almost certainly a rule with a "bad" regex -- could you send me an email with attached a sample of an email that causes the high cpu usage? Thanks, C On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 17:33, Phydeaux wrote: > Hi, all! > > Today I found one of my systems almost hung because of spamd > processes that

Re: [SAtalk] How to specify custom rules?

2002-04-02 Thread Stefan Fredriksson
Sorry to jump in but I have a similar question. I have read the "man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf" but still dont understand how I could fix a score for exampel every mail where the sender is for example *@*.com.tw and a score if the body contains also a com.tw address. Any help would be appriciated.

Re: [SAtalk] Where do scores come from?

2002-04-02 Thread David Coppit
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Matt Sergeant wrote: > David Coppit wrote: > > Can someone tell me how the values get assigned to the various > > "detectors" in SpamAssassin? Has anyone explored automated > > techniques for assigning these scores based on genetic algorithms, > > hill climbing with random res

Re: [SAtalk] How to specify custom rules?

2002-04-02 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 the voices made Rob McMillin write: > There is already a "funky character set" test; see CHARSET_FARAWAY_BODY. But no "funky e-mailaddresses"? I got an e-mail with a from that was something like Å"Å"Å"@something.tld; and I was surprised that it didn't get any hits whatsoever.

Re: [SAtalk] Where do scores come from?

2002-04-02 Thread Rob McMillin
David Coppit wrote: >Hi all, > >Can someone tell me how the values get assigned to the various "detectors" in >SpamAssassin? Has anyone explored automated techniques for assigning these >scores based on genetic algorithms, hill climbing with random restarts, >simulated annealing, or other optimiz

Re: [SAtalk] How to specify custom rules?

2002-04-02 Thread Rob McMillin
David Coppit wrote: >Hi folks, > >I'd like to add a couple rules to SpamAssassin: > >- Detect if the email is in some funky character set >- Detect if the email is not in english >- Detect if the subject ends in six or more digits > >How do I go about doing this? I hope I can just dump a couple f

RE: [SAtalk] How to specify custom rules?

2002-04-02 Thread CertaintyTech - Ed Henderson
Take a look at "man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf" this should give you configuration help. -- Ed. > > Hi folks, > > I'd like to add a couple rules to SpamAssassin: > > - Detect if the email is in some funky character set > - Detect if the email is not in english > - Detect if the subject ends in six

Re: [SAtalk] Where do scores come from?

2002-04-02 Thread Matt Sergeant
David Coppit wrote: > Hi all, > > Can someone tell me how the values get assigned to the various "detectors" in > SpamAssassin? Has anyone explored automated techniques for assigning these > scores based on genetic algorithms, hill climbing with random restarts, > simulated annealing, or other op

Re: [SAtalk] spamproxyd issue with 'spamaddr@example.com' ...

2002-04-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Jim Holmes wrote: > --On Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:21 AM -0400 "Marc G. Fournier" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Just curious, but in 2.11, spamproxyd requires '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to > > be set, or it won't run ... with it set, all messages triggered as SPAM go > > to

[SAtalk] Where do scores come from?

2002-04-02 Thread David Coppit
Hi all, Can someone tell me how the values get assigned to the various "detectors" in SpamAssassin? Has anyone explored automated techniques for assigning these scores based on genetic algorithms, hill climbing with random restarts, simulated annealing, or other optimization techniques? Regards,

[SAtalk] How to specify custom rules?

2002-04-02 Thread David Coppit
Hi folks, I'd like to add a couple rules to SpamAssassin: - Detect if the email is in some funky character set - Detect if the email is not in english - Detect if the subject ends in six or more digits How do I go about doing this? I hope I can just dump a couple files in .spamassassin/rules or

RE: SpamAssassin for Hire - was RE: [SAtalk] In need of very basic HELP

2002-04-02 Thread Dallas Engelken
> Sounds similar to what I'm doing for our company. I'm using > Exim and Cyrus > IMAP. Our main internet SMTP server checks all incoming mail > with SA, then > the mail is sent on to the IMAP servers where mail that was > flagged as spam > is delivered to an IMAP folder called "_spam_". The use

Re: [SAtalk] spamproxyd issue with 'spamaddr@example.com' ...

2002-04-02 Thread Jim Holmes
--On Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:21 AM -0400 "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just curious, but in 2.11, spamproxyd requires '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to > be set, or it won't run ... with it set, all messages triggered as SPAM go > to a central address, which, IMHO, is "A Bad Thing" ..

RE: SpamAssassin for Hire - was RE: [SAtalk] In need of very basic HELP

2002-04-02 Thread Kevin Erickson
Sounds similar to what I'm doing for our company. I'm using Exim and Cyrus IMAP. Our main internet SMTP server checks all incoming mail with SA, then the mail is sent on to the IMAP servers where mail that was flagged as spam is delivered to an IMAP folder called "_spam_". The users just use Outlo

[SAtalk] spamproxyd issue with 'spamaddr@example.com' ...

2002-04-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Just curious, but in 2.11, spamproxyd requires '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to be set, or it won't run ... with it set, all messages triggered as SPAM go to a central address, which, IMHO, is "A Bad Thing" ... Has anyone looked at changing: my $status = $spamtest->check($mail); if ($status->is_s

Re: SpamAssassin for Hire - was RE: [SAtalk] In need of very basic HELP

2002-04-02 Thread Gregor Lawatscheck
>I've actually been planning to set up a service like this on my server. I've >run into lots of people who think that SA is a good idea, but installing it >themselves or convincing an ISP to do so is beyond them. > >Unlike other spam-filtering services, this one would admit up front that it >runs

Re: [SAtalk] Razor::Client

2002-04-02 Thread Olivier Nicole
>Can someone please explain the razor 1.20 issue? spamassassin is >convinced that its not installed even though it is. Downgrade to Razor 1.19 As far as I understood, Razor had once a problem, so SA installed a work around, but since Razor 1.20, the problem is solved, but SA still has the wo

SpamAssassin for Hire - was RE: [SAtalk] In need of very basic HELP

2002-04-02 Thread Michael Moncur
Rich Wellner writes: > You might also consider setting up an email service for $5 a month or > so that runs spamassassin. I'd be willing to help if you are > interested but don't have time. I've actually been planning to set up a service like this on my server. I've run into lots of people who t

Re: [SAtalk] Razor::Client

2002-04-02 Thread Gregor Lawatscheck
At 13:39 02/04/2002, you wrote: >Can someone please explain the razor 1.20 issue? spamassassin is >convinced that its not installed even though it is. > >The FAQ mentions this is a problem but not how to fix it. OK maybe I shouldn't post to this because I'm not a 100% certain - but I'll try an

[SAtalk] Current CVS spamd hangs

2002-04-02 Thread Phydeaux
Hi, all! Today I found one of my systems almost hung because of spamd processes that were using lots of CPU but apparently not doing anything. This is on a Solaris box with Sendmail. Spamd is called via a system-wide procmail script. After this happened twice I restarted spamd and sendmail and t

[SAtalk] Razor::Client

2002-04-02 Thread Bradley Glonka
Can someone please explain the razor 1.20 issue? spamassassin is convinced that its not installed even though it is. The FAQ mentions this is a problem but not how to fix it. Thanks brad ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https

Re: [SAtalk] In need of very basic HELP

2002-04-02 Thread Matt Sergeant
Gregor Lawatscheck wrote: > At 11:59 02/04/2002, you wrote: > > >>http://www.messagelabs.com/ :-) >> > > > Well, if they were $5 a month (maybe they are but they don't say so > anywhere) they'd be interesting to recommend to people who're looking for a > good email solution. It seems to me t

Re: [SAtalk] In need of very basic HELP

2002-04-02 Thread Gregor Lawatscheck
At 11:59 02/04/2002, you wrote: >http://www.messagelabs.com/ :-) > Well, if they were $5 a month (maybe they are but they don't say so anywhere) they'd be interesting to recommend to people who're looking for a good email solution. It seems to me that they're targeted at medium to large busin

Re: [SAtalk] In need of very basic HELP

2002-04-02 Thread Matt Sergeant
Rich Wellner wrote: > Sidney Markowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>Perhaps you can suggest that Windows end users speak to their ISP >>about installing Spamassassin as a service to their customers. > > > You might also consider setting up an email service for $5 a month or > so that runs

SpamAssassin for Hire - was RE: [SAtalk] In need of very basic HELP

2002-04-02 Thread Michael Moncur
Rich Wellner writes: > You might also consider setting up an email service for $5 a month or > so that runs spamassassin. I'd be willing to help if you are > interested but don't have time. I've actually been planning to set up a service like this on my server. I've run into lots of people who t

Re: [SAtalk] Spamd and memory

2002-04-02 Thread Matt Sergeant
AHA Lists wrote: > I am running spamd on my redhat 6 box and spamd is taking up 5.3% memory. > IS this normal? > > root 3401 0.0 5.3 7848 6792 ?S08:44 0:00 perl > /usr/bin/spamd -d -c -a > This is Perl. It trades memory for speed. Yes, that's perfectly normal. One thing t

Re: [SAtalk] src:cid (was Re: More thoughts)

2002-04-02 Thread Matt Sergeant
Craig Hughes wrote: > Update from Silicon Valley: I've seen a couple products in the last few > days that send out emails as part of an enterprise software system where > they contain an IFRAME to embed a dynamically updating web page inside > an email. The idea is you send out an email which the

Re: [SAtalk] How does SA decide which IPs to check against DULs?

2002-04-02 Thread Gregor Lawatscheck
At 20:31 01/04/2002, you wrote: >However, from time to time, I still get SA flagging mails that originated >from a dialup IP and were relayed through the ISP (the way it should have >been) > >Will SA penalize a mail if any IP in the received headers is in a DUL or >only if the first line (seen

Re: [SAtalk] Help with installation????

2002-04-02 Thread Matthew Cline
On Monday 01 April 2002 09:33 am, Craig Hughes wrote: > Oh my god. SpamAssassin on GMA. We're doomed. You know, that would have been a good April Fools joke, if it weren't for that fact that it actually happenend... -- Visit http://dmoz.org, the world's | Give a man a match, and he'll be w