Nick,
well, I found this particular figure of speech ("the people...") quite
disturbing;
perhaps cause it reminded me of Soviet Union, where I grew up, or
perhaps because it is (over)used by American politicians...
It just could be that Dave snapped for a similar reason (although I
cannot read his
On Mar 17, 2010, at 11:46 PM, Nick Alexander wrote:
So sage built, but it may or may not work. And you're building it on
another machine, but it may or not build. What was the point of
this post?
Thanks for clarifying. So apparently you feel David should have
waited to post something (hop
On Mar 17, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
Robert Bradshaw wrote:
On Mar 17, 2010, at 4:52 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
William Stein wrote:
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Dr. David Kirkby
wrote:
I started a build of Sage 4.3.4.rc0 on 't2' and one of my own
SPARCs. The
build on
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 at 12:41AM -0400, Franco Saliola wrote:
> I want to set up a private notebook server for a small group of
> people, but the documentation for notebook? does not contain any
> examples for configuring such a server. It also points to a wiki page
> [1], which doesn't have the info
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 at 12:56AM -0700, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
> On Mar 17, 2010, at 11:46 PM, Nick Alexander wrote:
[...]
> >Yes. This post contains nothing "actionable".
>
> Actually, I think all such posts belong on sage-release; all 1000+
> subscribers to sage-devel don't need to know every tim
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:40 AM, Dan Drake wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 at 12:56AM -0700, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
>> On Mar 17, 2010, at 11:46 PM, Nick Alexander wrote:
> [...]
>> >Yes. This post contains nothing "actionable".
>>
>> Actually, I think all such posts belong on sage-release; all 1000
I use it in teaching bioinformatics. Are you going to keep the
interface the same?
-Marshall
On Mar 17, 11:38 pm, William Stein wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm curious if anybody reading this uses the Hidden Markov Models
> (HMM) code in Sage for anything. If so, send me an email, since I'm
> working on
Alert readers of sage-devel and sage-release may know that since
4.3.4.alpha0, I haven't been able to compile sage on my somewhat
eccentric Fedora 10 system. It's a 64-bit system with 64-bit compilers
and such under /usr/lib, but it's on a network with mostly 32-bit
machines and their compilers are
I only noticed after starting this separate thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/t/4f67007cbdd9e1e
that Jaap's problem looks the same as mine (since 4.3.4.alpha0),
although I can't guarantee that fixing one will fix the other.
Kiran
On Mar 17, 1:46 pm, Jaap Spies wrote:
> Minh Ngu
On Mar 18, 3:56 am, Robert Bradshaw
wrote:
> Actually, I think all such posts belong on sage-release; all 1000+
> subscribers to sage-devel don't need to know every time Sage alpha X
> builds or brakes on system Y. (Of course, these replies are invaluable
> for the release manager, so I don'
On Mar 18, 5:01 am, William Stein wrote:
> I have been receiving regular off list complaints from people that
> there are too many Solaris posts (as explained above). It is only
> natural to create:
>
> * sage-solaris: the primary list for Solaris porting discussion.
>
> ...
>
> Of course
On 18 March 2010 12:20, Kiran Kedlaya wrote:
> On Mar 18, 5:01 am, William Stein wrote:
>> I have been receiving regular off list complaints from people that
>> there are too many Solaris posts (as explained above). It is only
>> natural to create:
>>
>> * sage-solaris: the primary list f
Hi!
On Mar 18, 12:25 pm, John Cremona wrote:
> > I think David may be quitting because he feels marginalized by a
> > substantial segment of the Sage development community, which has been
> > expressing its antipathy towards discussion of the Solaris port by
> > complaining previously off-list, n
I completely agree with Kiran's points.
Personally I hate getting list emails, so I read all the sage groups
on a browser. A proliferation of groups makes it harder for me to
keep up - for example, I would probably pay more attention to notebook
development issues if they were on sage-devel. I
Kiran,
it should be possible by simply setting PATH appropriately to make all
the
unwanted /usr/local stuff invisible.
Did you try doing this?
(assuming you use bash as the shell, you can do
> PATH=whatever_stuff_you_need
> export PATH )
A similar problem arises on MacOSX, when one has some extra t
On 17 mar, 10:13, John Cremona wrote:
> For an example of how polynomials over number fields are converted
> into pari polynomials, see
> sage/rings/polynomial/polynomial_element.pyx, in the factor function.
> This is the code already used to factor polynomials over number fields
> by converting
> sage: f1 = pari([i._pari_('y') for i in f.list()]).Pol()
well, this is use Polrev()
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> Of course only David can speak for his own motives, but do you really
> think David is quitting because of me creating a sage-solaris mailing
> list?
William,
As far as I can judge the situation, its not what you doing, but the
way you are doing it what makes him quit (if he does so),
it would
On Mar 18, 2010, at 5:13 AM, Kiran Kedlaya wrote:
On Mar 18, 3:56 am, Robert Bradshaw
wrote:
Actually, I think all such posts belong on sage-release; all 1000+
subscribers to sage-devel don't need to know every time Sage alpha X
builds or brakes on system Y. (Of course, these replies are
inv
2010/3/18 alex :
> Hi William,
>
>> I'm curious if anybody reading this uses the Hidden Markov Models
>> (HMM) code in Sage for anything. If so, send me an email, since I'm
>> working on 100% replacing it by some brand new better quality code.
>
> I have not used HMM code in Sage for anything, but
On 17 Mrz., 19:37, John Cremona wrote:
> On 17 March 2010 09:23, Minh Nguyen wrote:
>
> > Hi folks,
>
> > This release candidate cleans up warnings resulting from building the
> > Sage documentation. If there are no show stoppers, then this release
> > is considered the final release candidate.
2010/3/18 mhampton :
> I use it in teaching bioinformatics. Are you going to keep the
> interface the same?
Yes, but with a couple of minor improvements. E.g., instead of the
emission distributions being specified in some ad-hoc way, they will
be Python classes, which will make them easier to de
On Mar 17, 10:23 am, Minh Nguyen wrote:
> 4.3.4rc0
builds fine on intel core2 duo, ubuntu 9.04 + all tests pass
but
it only builds on atom n270, ubuntu 9.10!
some doctests fail and i have the feeling that something didn't
compile. maybe you can tell me what to trigger for recompilation or
find so
Hi,
I would like to work on two tickets: #5731 (Update NTL to 5.5.2
release) and #2114 (get gf2x into Sage!).
As already reported in the discussion for #2114, the easiest way to
add gf2x is just to install it first, and then add an option to the ./
configure script of NTL. If have some spkgs ava
A good suggestion, but it doesn't help in this case. This may be a
Fedora issue rather than a 32/64 bit issue, since Jaap Spies had
similar trouble.
There seems to be a configuration issue. The spkg runs the config
script with the options
---
./configure --prefix=/scratch/sage-4.3.4.rc0/local --wi
Does anyone see a reason why there should be two function names?
sage: QQ(7).valuation(7)
1
sage: ZZ(7).ord(7)
1
Any opinions on which is better? I myself use N.ord(p) a lot, and I
was surprised that I hadn't run across this before.
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2010/2/22 Ondrej Certik :
> Hi,
>
> some FEMhub users are confused by seeing the name "Sage" in
> warnings and error messages, and in various installation scripts
> and messages. They are there because FEMhub uses some
> functionality of Sage (as Ubuntu uses some functionality of
> Debian). However
ggrafendorfer wrote:
Of course only David can speak for his own motives, but do you really
think David is quitting because of me creating a sage-solaris mailing
list?
William,
As far as I can judge the situation, its not what you doing, but the
way you are doing it what makes him quit (if he d
mhampton wrote:
It does seem unnecessarily marginalizing to make a sage-solaris group.
-Marshall
Thank you Marshall. I'm glad I'm not alone in feeling this.
I'm surprised how many people do share my view, even if they are not keen
Solaris users themselves.
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William Stein wrote:
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:40 AM, Dan Drake wrote:
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 at 12:56AM -0700, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
On Mar 17, 2010, at 11:46 PM, Nick Alexander wrote:
[...]
Yes. This post contains nothing "actionable".
Actually, I think all such posts belong on sage-releas
John Cremona wrote:
On 18 March 2010 12:20, Kiran Kedlaya wrote:
I think David may be quitting because he feels marginalized by a
substantial segment of the Sage development community, which has been
expressing its antipathy towards discussion of the Solaris port by
complaining previously off-l
> Hi,
>
> I would like to work on two tickets: #5731 (Update NTL to 5.5.2
> release) and #2114 (get gf2x into Sage!).
>
> As already reported in the discussion for #2114, the easiest way to
> add gf2x is just to install it first, and then add an option to the ./
> configure script of NTL. If hav
Jason Grout wrote:
Thanks for clarifying. So apparently you feel David should have waited
to post something (hopefully!) like: "Sage built on Solaris SPARC and
doctests passed." or at least "no new doctest failures happened"?
Thanks,
Jason
For your information,
$ make testlong
ends wit
I tried to update to 4.3.4.rc0 on MacOSX 10.5 PPC (G4) It has built,
but then it won't start:
---
ImportError Traceback (most recent call
last)
[...]
/usr/local/src/sage/sage-4.3.4.rc0/local/lib/p
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Dr. David Kirkby
wrote:
> For your information,
>
> $ make testlong
>
> ends with:
>
> sage -t -long "devel/sage/sage/symbolic/__init__.py"
> [0.3 s]
> sage -t -long "devel/sage/sage/symbolic/constants_c.pyx"
> [11.9 s]
> sage -t -long "devel/sa
Sage uses non-standard command-line options (e.g., -notebook rather
than --notebook). I propose that we switch to standard ones. Here are
two reasons:
1. They're standard, and standards are good. People used to Unix-type
systems will expect our options to work this way. I think if we
decide to co
On Mar 19, 3:22 am, Alex Ghitza wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Dr. David Kirkby
>
>
>
> wrote:
> > For your information,
>
> > $ make testlong
>
> > ends with:
>
> > sage -t -long "devel/sage/sage/symbolic/__init__.py"
> > [0.3 s]
> > sage -t -long "devel/sage/sage/symboli
On Mar 17, 2010, at 02:23 , Minh Nguyen wrote:
Hi folks,
This release candidate cleans up warnings resulting from building the
Sage documentation. If there are no show stoppers, then this release
is considered the final release candidate.
Source tarball:
http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/
I am preparing cvxopt-1.1.2 spkg upgrade, and see that the current
cvxopt (0.9) has some special hooks to work with f95.
Can these be ignored and removed now, as gfortran is there anyway?
If not, please tell me how (and where --- if it's not possible under
usual Linux, or, as a last resort, MacOSX
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:05 PM, John H Palmieri wrote:
> Sage uses non-standard command-line options (e.g., -notebook rather
> than --notebook). I propose that we switch to standard ones. Here are
> two reasons:
>
> 1. They're standard, and standards are good. People used to Unix-type
> systems
2010/3/18 Dima Pasechnik :
> I am preparing cvxopt-1.1.2 spkg upgrade, and see that the current
> cvxopt (0.9) has some special hooks to work with f95.
> Can these be ignored and removed now, as gfortran is there anyway?
On some platforms g95 is still installed, though not for most. E.g.,
I just
2010/3/18 Dr. David Kirkby :
>
> I explained my motives. Whether you wish to believe them or not is up to you.
> It is not just the list, but what I perceive as an indifference towards
> Solaris from you on the public side, then a private side telling me how
> important it is for Sage to run on
Hi David,
As one of the people William mentioned who'd complained about the
volume of Solaris email on sage-devel, I thought I should weigh in.
For reference, I actually stopped getting email from sage-devel and
switched to reading on the web because I felt like I couldn't handle
the volume. Mind
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