[sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org is not down, but seriously prone...

2025-02-09 Thread Emmanuel Charpentier
I asked Thierry, who answered that all his lab's machines are unreacheable, cause unknown for now. It is probably a distinct problem. Le dimanche 9 février 2025 à 21:15:09 UTC+1, max...@gmail.com a écrit : > It looks like ask.sagemath.org went down after all. Does anybody know > what's going on

[sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org is not down, but seriously prone...

2025-02-09 Thread Max Alekseyev
It looks like ask.sagemath.org went down after all. Does anybody know what's going on? Regards, Max On Saturday, February 1, 2025 at 4:33:30 PM UTC-5 emanuel.c...@gmail.com wrote: > It turns out that ask.sagemath.org may have rejected my comment for the > use of the word *unadulterated*, which

[sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org is not down, but seriously prone...

2025-02-01 Thread Emmanuel Charpentier
It turns out that ask.sagemath.org may have rejected my comment for the use of the word *unadulterated*, which sins by containing the word *adult*. Our server software seems to have a built-in Comstock (aggressive variety…). Sorry for the noise

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-07-07 Thread jplab
Hello, Jumping in here... 1) I remember discussions from the past while the (Anything)overflow era was booming, there was ideas to create the Sageoverflow database of Q&A... For me, the main reason not to go is *ownership of the data* and *hosting*. As Sébastien perfectly illustrated, the imme

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-07-04 Thread kcrisman
Thank you Sébastien for standing up for users, for distinguishing between users and developers, and for recognizing that those two groups have different needs. May your Karma increase exponentially! This is the point which we must keep hammering home. Sage users and developers are not the

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-07-03 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 10:49 AM Eric Gourgoulhon wrote: > I gave a look at the test Discourse site > https://sagemath-test.discourse.group/ > (thank you Matthias for setting it up!) > as well as to the Jupyter Discourse site pointed out by Dima: > https://discourse.jupyter.org/ > DIscourse is cle

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-07-03 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 10:43 AM Sébastien Labbé wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 4:35:57 PM UTC+2 Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > Karma and other gamification instruments are apparently available as a > plugin. https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-gamification/225916 > > > Karma is part of

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-07-03 Thread Eric Gourgoulhon
Le mercredi 3 juillet 2024 à 11:43:52 UTC+2, Sébastien Labbé a écrit : On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 4:35:57 PM UTC+2 Matthias Koeppe wrote: Karma and other gamification instruments are apparently available as a plugin. https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-gamification/225916 Karma is part of

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-07-03 Thread Eric Gourgoulhon
Hi, I gave a look at the test Discourse site https://sagemath-test.discourse.group/ (thank you Matthias for setting it up!) as well as to the Jupyter Discourse site pointed out by Dima: https://discourse.jupyter.org/ DIscourse is clearly a high quality tool but I agree with Sébastien that it is

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-07-03 Thread Sébastien Labbé
On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 4:35:57 PM UTC+2 Matthias Koeppe wrote: Karma and other gamification instruments are apparently available as a plugin. https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-gamification/225916 Karma is part of the many good aspects of ask.sagemath.org, but it is mostly about hum

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-07-02 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 8:48 PM Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 10:27:34 AM UTC-7 Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 3:35 PM Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > > > Karma and other gamification instruments are apparently available as a > > plugin. https://meta.discours

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-07-02 Thread Matthias Koeppe
On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 10:27:34 AM UTC-7 Dima Pasechnik wrote: On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 3:35 PM Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > Karma and other gamification instruments are apparently available as a plugin. https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-gamification/225916 This one doesn't seem to be

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-07-02 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 3:35 PM Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > Karma and other gamification instruments are apparently available as a > plugin. https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-gamification/225916 This one doesn't seem to be available in our test installation. It could be it's only available fo

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-07-02 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2 July 2024 08:47:48 BST, "Sébastien Labbé" wrote: > > >On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 10:41:35 PM UTC+2 Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > >I share the same skepticism about using GitHub Discussions. >But Discourse would be a direct replacement for AskBot; it is widely used >with the same user-facing

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-07-02 Thread Matthias Koeppe
Karma and other gamification instruments are apparently available as a plugin. https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-gamification/225916 On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 12:47:48 AM UTC-7 Sébastien Labbé wrote: > On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 10:41:35 PM UTC+2 Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > > I share the s

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-07-02 Thread Sébastien Labbé
On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 10:41:35 PM UTC+2 Matthias Koeppe wrote: I share the same skepticism about using GitHub Discussions. But Discourse would be a direct replacement for AskBot; it is widely used with the same user-facing, not developer-centric, role. I checked Discourse Group yesterd

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-07-01 Thread Dima Pasechnik
I might try to admin there a bit. On 1 July 2024 20:32:13 BST, Matthias Koeppe wrote: >On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 7:45:41 AM UTC-7 Dima Pasechnik wrote: > >I'd rather seriously consider moving to Discourse (which does have an >importer from askbot) > > >I've created https://sagemath-test.discou

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-07-01 Thread Matthias Koeppe
On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 6:18:36 AM UTC-7 Sébastien Labbé wrote: I don't visit ask.sagemath.org much, so others who are regulars there may correct me, but it seems that the whole downvoting/upvoting / karma / accepting answers mechanism of this forum may have little value, as most questions h

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-07-01 Thread Matthias Koeppe
On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 7:45:41 AM UTC-7 Dima Pasechnik wrote: I'd rather seriously consider moving to Discourse (which does have an importer from askbot) I've created https://sagemath-test.discourse.group/ so that people can try out this system. I've also sent out a few individual invite

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-07-01 Thread Matthias Koeppe
On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 7:45:41 AM UTC-7 Dima Pasechnik wrote: On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 4:14 AM Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > Another migration route that we could consider: > Importing the messages from AskBot into Google Groups (merging with the sage-support group). Google Groups' interf

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-07-01 Thread Marc Culler
Thank you Sébastien for standing up for users, for distinguishing between users and developers, and for recognizing that those two groups have different needs. May your Karma increase exponentially! - Marc On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 8:18:36 AM UTC-5 Sébastien Labbé wrote: > I don't visit ask.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-07-01 Thread Sébastien Labbé
I don't visit ask.sagemath.org much, so others who are regulars there may correct me, but it seems that the whole downvoting/upvoting / karma / accepting answers mechanism of this forum may have little value, as most questions have 0 or 1 answers. So if that's lost in the migration, perhaps n

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-07-01 Thread Emmanuel Charpentier
Le dimanche 30 juin 2024 à 16:45:41 UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik a écrit : On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 4:14 AM Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > Another migration route that we could consider: > Importing the messages from AskBot into Google Groups (merging with the sage-support group). Google Groups' int

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-06-30 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 4:14 AM Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > Another migration route that we could consider: > Importing the messages from AskBot into Google Groups (merging with the > sage-support group). Google Groups' interface is pretty bad, one cannot do maths, or properly format things. (and

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-06-29 Thread Matthias Koeppe
Another migration route that we could consider: Importing the messages from AskBot into Google Groups (merging with the sage-support group). I don't visit ask.sagemath.org much, so others who are regulars there may correct me, but it seems that the whole downvoting/upvoting / karma / accepting

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-06-27 Thread Kwankyu Lee
On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 11:33:16 PM UTC+9 Dima Pasechnik wrote: On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 9:44 AM Kwankyu Lee wrote: Tangentially related: why don't we use GitHub Discussions, for whatever discussions? Does it cost? no, it does not, but it's the question of potential importing/exporting d

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-06-27 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 9:44 AM Kwankyu Lee wrote: > Tangentially related: why don't we use GitHub Discussions, for whatever > discussions? Does it cost? no, it does not, but it's the question of potential importing/exporting data. It appears to be not quite supported: https://github.com/orgs/c

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-06-27 Thread Kwankyu Lee
Tangentially related: why don't we use GitHub Discussions, for whatever discussions? Does it cost? Kwankyu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-d

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2024-06-22 Thread Matthias Koeppe
Reviving this old thread from 2021, as we are currently taking stock of the project infrastructure (discussion in https://groups.google.com/g/sagemath-admins, updating the wiki page https://github.com/sagemath/sage/wiki/Infrastructure). - server uses Askbot 0.7.59 (a 2020 hotfix of a 2015 versi

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2021-12-15 Thread William Stein
Good idea -- I'll do that. On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 8:24 AM Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > > On Wed, 15 Dec 2021, 15:59 William Stein, wrote: >> >> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 6:49 AM Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> > >> > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 12:44 AM William Stein wrote: >> > > >> > > Here's some very q

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2021-12-15 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wed, 15 Dec 2021, 15:59 William Stein, wrote: > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 6:49 AM Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 12:44 AM William Stein wrote: > > > > > > Here's some very quick thoughts, some on topic and some off: > > > > > > - The original author of the software that

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2021-12-15 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 6:49 AM Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 12:44 AM William Stein wrote: > > > > Here's some very quick thoughts, some on topic and some off: > > > > - The original author of the software that ask.sagemath.org runs did > > initially do the configuration at

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2021-12-15 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 12:44 AM William Stein wrote: > > Here's some very quick thoughts, some on topic and some off: > > - The original author of the software that ask.sagemath.org runs did > initially do the configuration at some point long ago. He was starting a > business to support instan

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2021-12-14 Thread William Stein
Here's some very quick thoughts, some on topic and some off: - The original author of the software that ask.sagemath.org runs did initially do the configuration at some point long ago. He was starting a business to support instances in exchange for money. I wonder if that is still around? If so

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2021-12-14 Thread Thierry
On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 07:00:54AM -0800, kcrisman wrote: > Some hopefully-useful comments: > > Overall, I am not sure why the project is running this server. I think we > > are spreading ourselves pretty thin here. There is also: > > - https://groups.google.com/g/sage-support > > - https://stack

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2021-12-14 Thread jplab
Hello, I think it is a fair question to consider whether we need AskSage. This discussion reminded me of a previous thread in the group which I think is still worth reading today: Sage Stack Exchange Site: https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/hwEhxaetakk/m/XSWWUYS9LCwJ While the discussion

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2021-12-11 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Sat, 11 Dec 2021, 17:58 Emmanuel Charpentier, < emanuel.charpent...@gmail.com> wrote: > Discourse is somewhat nosy : I have to use it for questions related to > Stan ... > Nosy? Discourse can be self-hosted. While askbot promises a new version in February, it's obviously

[sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2021-12-11 Thread Emmanuel Charpentier
Discourse is somewhat nosy : I have to use it for questions related to Stan ... Le samedi 11 décembre 2021 à 18:52:34 UTC+1, Matthias Koeppe a écrit : > On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 7:00:54 AM UTC-8 kcrisman wrote: > >> As for sage-support, it's always surprising to m

[sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2021-12-11 Thread Matthias Koeppe
On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 7:00:54 AM UTC-8 kcrisman wrote: > As for sage-support, it's always surprising to me how many "customers" > simply disappear as soon as you mention asking a question there - somehow > they either want a Q&A site, or to ask on Facebook, or whatever. I don't >

[sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2021-12-11 Thread kcrisman
Some hopefully-useful comments: Overall, I am not sure why the project is running this server. I think we > are spreading ourselves pretty thin here. There is also: > - https://groups.google.com/g/sage-support > - https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/sage > 50 questions in last 6 months - t

[sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2021-12-10 Thread Samuel Lelievre
2021-12-10, Matthias Koeppe: > I have received a report that ask.sagemath.org account management is > broken: > > das "recover account" jedoch funktioniert jedoch nicht. > > wenn man auf den button klickt passiert lange nichts, > und irgendwann "504 Gateway Time-out". > > I don't normally use as

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org login trouble

2015-05-02 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Saturday, 2 May 2015 10:21:21 UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > I tried to recover via email, and I got the email - into the spam folder > on gmail. > This has given me the account back, at least. > I was able to make password for a non-openID login. Some other openID I tried (wordpress) did

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org login trouble

2015-05-02 Thread Dima Pasechnik
I tried to recover via email, and I got the email - into the spam folder on gmail. This has given me the account back, at least. On Thursday, 30 April 2015 16:38:52 UTC+1, William wrote: > > > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Nils Bruin > > wrote: > >> I'm having different trouble: I used to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org login trouble

2015-04-30 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Nils Bruin wrote: > I'm having different trouble: I used to authenticate with Google open ID, > which doesn't work anymore. I tried "recover via email". It does recognize > my email addres and reports "Account recovery email sent". No mail seems to > arrive, thoug

[sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org login trouble

2015-04-30 Thread Nils Bruin
I'm having different trouble: I used to authenticate with Google open ID, which doesn't work anymore. I tried "recover via email". It does recognize my email addres and reports "Account recovery email sent". No mail seems to arrive, though. -- You received this message because you are subscr

[sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org and openid2

2015-01-02 Thread Niles Johnson
> >> > 2. ask.sagemath.org is running on Google Compute Engine using free >> credits they gave me. These were going to expire in Nov 2014, but >> Google kindly extended the credits through March (though they could >> run out before then). We should continue to think about where to host >>

[sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org and openid2

2015-01-02 Thread kcrisman
> > 1. I just logged in to ask.sagemath.org (using Google open auth) and > got the attached message, that Google is getting rid of this service > in four months?! What's the implication for ask.sagemath.org > accounts/users? > > And for other OpenID stuff in Sage, I've wondered about this for

[sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org is down

2011-08-04 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, August 4, 2011 12:29:38 PM UTC-7, leif wrote: > > On 4 Aug., 18:04, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > > So, although broken, things are broken as expected ;-) > > > > Quote of the day :-) > > Yep. > > Some strange thing: > > While trac was back relatively fast (since 7:17 or earlier),

[sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org is down

2011-08-04 Thread leif
On 4 Aug., 18:04, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > So, although broken, things are broken as expected ;-) > > Quote of the day :-) Yep. Some strange thing: While trac was back relatively fast (since 7:17 or earlier), I meanwhile don't get any more notifications for ticket updates. I.e., I did get som

[sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org is down

2011-08-04 Thread Jason Grout
On 8/4/11 11:34 AM, William Stein wrote: On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:32 AM, kcrisman wrote: Service Temporarily Unavailable The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. The server room that houses the sagema

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org

2010-11-15 Thread v_2e
Hello! On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 03:27:48 -0800 (PST) pang wrote: > On 14 nov, 22:14, v...@ukr.net wrote: > >   Hello! > >   Please excuse me if I'm asking a question that has already been > > answered somewhere. :) > >   Does this service exist for asking the questions on certain > > specific probl

[sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org

2010-11-15 Thread pang
On 14 nov, 22:14, v...@ukr.net wrote: >   Hello! >   Please excuse me if I'm asking a question that has already been > answered somewhere. :) >   Does this service exist for asking the questions on certain > specific problems and algorithms or for some kind of generic questions? Why don't you ask