[sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-06-27 Thread mmarco
Just got a positive answer from the author of mapclass, so i have added it to the package too. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at htt

[sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-06-26 Thread mmarco
I have done a new version of the gap_packages spkg, adding some new packages. In particular i have added automata, cohomolo, crisp, fga, fplsa, gbnp, kbmag and quagroup. The reason why i have chosen those is that they are the ones that are listed as accepted in the gap site, are under the GPL or LG

[sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-06-25 Thread mmarco
I have sent an email to the authors of the gap packages that are listed as "accepted" in the gap site, and don't have a explicit license statement. Some of them have already answered positively. I have set up a list with the packages in google docs[1]. I will update it as i receive the authors res

[sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-06-02 Thread mmarco
If the maintainers of the gap_packages spkg agree, i would propose to include in it as many gap packages as possible. We could email the authors of the packages asking them for permission to distribute them under the GPL and include all the packages whose authors agree. -- To post to this group,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-06-01 Thread Christopher Swenson
I usually consider MIT / BSD / Apache 2.0 to be a fairly optimal license for the work I do. (In that they function to apply credit, limit liability, and pretty much nothing else. I like licenses that optimize the freedom of people to use the code for what they want.) --Christopher On Fri, Jun 1,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-06-01 Thread Harald Schilly
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Christopher Swenson wrote: > Also see this wonderful flow chat written by some of my > coworkers: http://cl.ly/5nAo I like it! They forgot the WTFPL: http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/ (gpl compatible!) Also, i think just "public domain" is not possible for them. This is

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-06-01 Thread Christopher Swenson
I was also going to say that it would be great to get a public statement from the author that either licenses the software or releases the copyright into the public domain. From what I understand, without an explicit statement, the work is still copyrighted and "license free", which can be dangerou

[sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-05-31 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:36:16 UTC+2, Harald Schilly wrote: > > Hi, that's a nice one. I've added it to the menu on the sage page, in > "download > GAP packages". Is this not already a feature in GAP, which > automatically downloads+extracts those tarballs? E.g. in R there is > "install.pac

[sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-05-31 Thread Harald Schilly
Hi, that's a nice one. I've added it to the menu on the sage page, in "download > GAP packages". Is this not already a feature in GAP, which automatically downloads+extracts those tarballs? E.g. in R there is "install.packages" and so on. A separate wiki page for R packages would be nice, too.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-05-31 Thread John Cremona
Thanks. On 31 May 2012 10:45, mmarco wrote: > One way to check if they are correctly installed is to try to load > them. > > If you want to use them from a gap session, just start > sage -gap > and then load them > LoadPackage("kbmag"); > > If you want to use them from sage through the sage-gap i

[sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-05-31 Thread mmarco
One way to check if they are correctly installed is to try to load them. If you want to use them from a gap session, just start sage -gap and then load them LoadPackage("kbmag"); If you want to use them from sage through the sage-gap interface, then sage gap.LoadPackage('"kbmag"') Note tha doubl

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-05-31 Thread John Cremona
Thanks for the clear instructions. I just followed them literally and it all worked fine. I have not tried the extra functionality though -- is there (for each of the two packages in your examples) an easy way to see if they are working? John On 30 May 2012 20:16, mmarco wrote: > I have added

[sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-05-30 Thread mmarco
I have added a wiki page: http://wiki.sagemath.org/InstallingGapPackages -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com

[sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-05-30 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2012-05-30, mmarco wrote: > Ok, so i would say that the consensus is to wait for both gap 4.5 and > git. I guess it's good to wait for at least one of the two :) > That sounds like a long wait, but in the meantime i can just > write a quick tutorial on how to install gap packages in sage. > >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-05-30 Thread John Cremona
It also occurred to me that if there are (other) Gap packages which we cannot dirstribute with Sage for licensing reasons, an alternative would be to create a Sage spkg for those and submit it to the Gap project for them to dirstribute (or at least have on their web page), so that people could get

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-05-30 Thread John Cremona
On 30 May 2012 10:23, Julien Puydt wrote: > Le mercredi 30 mai, mmarco a écrit: >> He sent me an email just an hour ago granting me permission to >> distribute it under the gpl. Didn't specify which version. So if you >> can talk to him personally it would be much better. > > I think a written pub

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-05-30 Thread Julien Puydt
Le mercredi 30 mai, mmarco a écrit: > He sent me an email just an hour ago granting me permission to > distribute it under the gpl. Didn't specify which version. So if you > can talk to him personally it would be much better. I think a written public statement would be much better than a private o

[sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-05-30 Thread mmarco
He sent me an email just an hour ago granting me permission to distribute it under the gpl. Didn't specify which version. So if you can talk to him personally it would be much better. KBMAG is not the only gap package with no copyright/licensing note at all. I haven't checked all of the packages i

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-05-30 Thread David Joyner
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:44 AM, John Cremona wrote: > On 29 May 2012 22:15, David Joyner wrote: >> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:10 PM, mmarco wrote: >>> I have contacted the author of the kbmag package (which has no >>> copyright note at all), and he told me that "it is distributed under >>> no li

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-05-30 Thread John Cremona
On 29 May 2012 22:15, David Joyner wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:10 PM, mmarco wrote: >> I have contacted the author of the kbmag package (which has no >> copyright note at all), and he told me that "it is distributed under >> no license, it is completely open source". I have asked him permi

[sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-05-30 Thread mmarco
Ok, so i would say that the consensus is to wait for both gap 4.5 and git. That sounds like a long wait, but in the meantime i can just write a quick tutorial on how to install gap packages in sage. Which would be the appropiate place in the wiki to put it? -- To post to this group, send an emai

[sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-05-29 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2012-05-29, mmarco wrote: > I have contacted the author of the kbmag package (which has no > copyright note at all), and he told me that "it is distributed under > no license, it is completely open source". I have asked him permission > to distribute it under the gpl license. So i have a legal

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-05-29 Thread David Joyner
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:10 PM, mmarco wrote: > I have contacted the author of the kbmag package (which has no > copyright note at all), and he told me that "it is distributed under > no license, it is completely open source". I have asked him permission > to distribute it under the gpl license.

[sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-05-29 Thread mmarco
I have contacted the author of the kbmag package (which has no copyright note at all), and he told me that "it is distributed under no license, it is completely open source". I have asked him permission to distribute it under the gpl license. So i have a legal question: would it be enough if he gav

[sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-05-29 Thread mmarco
You are right, i didn't think about the license. Still, my point is valid even if we restrict it to GPL gap packages. On May 29, 12:54 pm, David Joyner wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:50 AM, mmarco wrote: > > One of the complains i have heard from my colleagues that use sage > > (and i have

[sage-devel] Re: GAP packages install error

2008-01-30 Thread mabshoff
On Jan 30, 5:09 pm, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There should be a file called config.log in > > > $SAGE_ROOT/spkg/build/gap_packages-4.4.10_3/src/ > > > which should have more info on what went wrong. It could be rather > > large, so it would be best if you upload it somewhere

[sage-devel] Re: GAP packages install error

2008-01-30 Thread Martin Albrecht
> There should be a file called config.log in > > $SAGE_ROOT/spkg/build/gap_packages-4.4.10_3/src/ > > which should have more info on what went wrong. It could be rather > large, so it would be best if you upload it somewhere and post a link > here. Hi, isn't that the piece of information that i

[sage-devel] Re: GAP packages install error

2008-01-30 Thread mabshoff
On Jan 30, 3:17 pm, Hy Ginsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, Hi Hy, > I am a brand-newbie. I tried to install the GAP packages and got an > error. > Sage told me to email this group, so here I am... > > I am running Xubuntu ("Feisty") on an HP-Compaq nc4010, in case that > matters. >