On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:44 AM, John Cremona <john.crem...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 29 May 2012 22:15, David Joyner <wdjoy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:10 PM, mmarco <mma...@unizar.es> wrote:
>>> I have contacted the author of the kbmag package (which has no
>>> copyright note at all), and he told me that "it is distributed under
>>> no license, it is completely open source". I have asked him permission
>>> to distribute it under the gpl license. So i have a legal question:
>>> would it be enough if he gave me permission to do so to include it in
>>> sage (either in the gap_packages spkg or in a separated package)?
>>
>
> If it would help, he (Derek Holt) has an office a few yards from mine
> here in Warwick, and I could talk to him.

That would be great!
Does he mean public domain by "no license"?
Thanks.

>
> John
>
>>
>> Yes, but better would be to send him the actual text of the license
>> (summarized in a paragraph inside the email) and ask him to explicitly
>> agree to it or not. It would also be nice if you could get him to
>> agree to GPLv2+, which means
>> "GPLv2 or later".
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 29 mayo, 13:30, mmarco <mma...@unizar.es> wrote:
>>>> You are right, i didn't think about the license. Still, my point is
>>>> valid even if we restrict it to GPL gap packages.
>>>>
>>>> On May 29, 12:54 pm, David Joyner <wdjoy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:50 AM, mmarco <mma...@unizar.es> wrote:
>>>> > > One of the complains i have heard from my colleagues that use sage
>>>> > > (and i have noticed myself) is the lack of certain gap packages in the
>>>> > > sage distribution.  There is an spkg with some of them, but most are
>>>> > > missing. Also, it is not easy to find documentation on how to install
>>>> > > gap packages in the sage installation. I propose some possible
>>>> > > solutions for that (not necesarily exclusive):
>>>>
>>>> > > 1) increase the amount of gap packages in the gap_packages spkg
>>>>
>>>> > The GAP packages have various distribution licenses. Just because they
>>>> > are distributed on gap-system.org doesn't mean anyone can distribute
>>>> > them. It depends on the license. You could either check that the
>>>> > redistribution is allowed (eg, if the package is GPL'd) or, if needed,
>>>> > contact the package authors directly. Alternatively, you might be
>>>> > able to write a script (using wget?) which downloads the packages
>>>> > from the GAP website then installs them automatically.
>>>>
>>>> > > 2) Do some extra spkg's, maybe one for each gap package?
>>>> > > 3) Related with the previous one: write some quick guide on how to
>>>> > > make those extra spkg's, and add it to the documetation (maybe tthe
>>>> > > wiki would be a good place for that). I know there is a chapter on the
>>>> > > developement guide about spkg's, but in this case i mean something
>>>> > > like an easy step-by-step guide. This could be useful for people that
>>>> > > want to add a certain gap package, and also their effort can be reused
>>>> > > if those packages are collected somewhere.
>>>> > > 4) Just write some documentation on how to install gap packages by
>>>> > > hand.
>>>>
>>>> > > I can volunteer for both options 2 or 3 (and maybe 4, although i am
>>>> > > sure there are some people that would do much better than me), but i
>>>> > > would like to know what people think first.
>>>>
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