Robert Bradshaw wrote:
> On Apr 1, 2008, at 9:15 PM, Jason Grout wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to add _fast_float_ functionality to SymbolicEquation
>> objects. However, a perusal of the sage.ext.fast_eval.pyx file
>> seems to
>> indicate that the operations <, <=, ==, >=, >, and != are not
>> supp
Jason Grout wrote:
> I'm trying to add _fast_float_ functionality to SymbolicEquation
> objects. However, a perusal of the sage.ext.fast_eval.pyx file seems to
> indicate that the operations <, <=, ==, >=, >, and != are not supported
> by the fast_float machinery. Is that correct? If so, how
That's the plan. Though I'll have to ask around to figure out how to
determine if _repr_ is being called from the notebook or iPython.
David
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 7:01 PM, Dan Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Robert Bradshaw wrote:
> > Thanks for your input. We are considering a more advance
On Apr 1, 2008, at 9:15 PM, Jason Grout wrote:
> I'm trying to add _fast_float_ functionality to SymbolicEquation
> objects. However, a perusal of the sage.ext.fast_eval.pyx file
> seems to
> indicate that the operations <, <=, ==, >=, >, and != are not
> supported
> by the fast_float machin
On Mar 30, 2008, at 19:37 , William Stein wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> Sage 2.11 has been released on March 30th, 2008. It is available at
>
> http://sagemath.org/download.html
Here is the result for Mac OS X, 10.4.11 (Core 2 Duo, "-j2"). The "-
tp2" testing got one failure, indicated b
Hi!
Without saying anything about the quality of Romans work (I can't
judge that without a deeper look):
I don't find it very impressive, posting some benchmark for just one
example.
Note, that the example is dense.
If he is using fast (Strassen-like) algorithms, then it is quite
natural, to ach
Hi William!
It is pure latex (I have chosen this format, as I wanted to reuse it
at some day for SAGE).
Michael
On 1 Apr., 23:53, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Michael Brickenstein
>
>
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> > Suprise, there e
I'm trying to add _fast_float_ functionality to SymbolicEquation
objects. However, a perusal of the sage.ext.fast_eval.pyx file seems to
indicate that the operations <, <=, ==, >=, >, and != are not supported
by the fast_float machinery. Is that correct? If so, how do I add
these operations
On Apr 1, 2008, at 2:03 PM, John Cremona wrote:
> On 01/04/2008, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Yes. We're making good progress on the new coercion model (David Roe
>> and I were working on it last night, he finished Rings), but it is
>> not 3.0 material (both for timing and s
Hello folks,
the Sage 3.0 release cycle has started. So far we have merged
* the new Crystal code
* PolyBoRi 0.3.1
* plenty of Debian build fixes
Alpha1 is planned for the next 36 hours and should finally make
compilation with gcc 4.3 possible.
The source and binaries are in the usual place
Robert Bradshaw wrote:
> Thanks for your input. We are considering a more advanced model
> (David Roe has lots of ideas on this front), but this falls outside
> of the central focus coercion scheme. (This is one reason to use
> _repr_ rather than the Python __repr__ so that the base object's
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Jason Grout wrote:
> > CCing sage-devel since this has turned into a devel discussion. The
> > original thread is on sage-support.
> >
> > Joel B. Mohler wrote:
> >> On Tuesday 01 April 2008 05:20:47 pm Joel B. Moh
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 at 06:04PM -0700, William Stein wrote:
> This is video from lecture one of my Sage course
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-826792746508034&hl=en
Check out the "related videos" that show up:
http://math.kaist.ac.kr/~drake/img/videos-related-to-sage.png
It must
Jason Grout wrote:
> CCing sage-devel since this has turned into a devel discussion. The
> original thread is on sage-support.
>
> Joel B. Mohler wrote:
>> On Tuesday 01 April 2008 05:20:47 pm Joel B. Mohler wrote:
>>> On Tuesday 01 April 2008 04:45:16 pm alex clemesha wrote:
With respect
Excellent stuff! Please post videos of all of the lectures.
But, Will, if that is you giving the lecture you need to increase your
lean body mass! More muscle = more math.
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com
To
Hello,
On sci.math.symbolic, I saw that Roman Pearce posted some benchmarks
from his closed source library for performing sparse multivariate
polynomial arithmetic, which can be found at
http://www.cecm.sfu.ca/~rpearcea/ . The benchmarks (
http://www.cecm.sfu.ca/~rpearcea/sdmp/2008_04_01/benchma
Hi Minh,
Thanks for reporting these. I've made them ticket 2764 at
http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/2764 . They will be fixed
in the next release.
--Mike
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Minh Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- doc-main-2.11.0/prog/prog.tex 2008-03-31 13:
--- doc-main-2.11.0/prog/prog.tex 2008-03-31 13:11:51.0 +1000
+++ doc-main-2.11.1/prog/prog.tex 2008-04-02 09:08:46.0 +1000
@@ -361,7 +361,7 @@
\item If a test line contains the text \code{random} it is executed by
\code{sage-doctest} but \code{sage-doctest} does n
--- doc-main-2.11.0/overviews/numerical_sage/numerical_sage.tex 2008-03-30
12:37:14.0 +1000
+++ doc-main-2.11.1/overviews/numerical_sage/numerical_sage.tex 2008-04-02
09:00:35.0 +1000
@@ -23,7 +23,7 @@
\section{Overview of the Tools}
SAGE has many different components that may be
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Michael Brickenstein
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi!
> Suprise, there exists a tutorial for PolyBoRi.
>
> http://polybori.sourceforge.net/doc/tutorial/index.html
>
> It is available in tex-format under
> doc/tutorial/tutorial.tex
> in our source distributi
--- doc-main-2.11.0/inst/inst.tex 2008-03-31 13:11:51.0 +1000
+++ doc-main-2.11.1/inst/inst.tex 2008-04-02 08:51:30.0 +1000
@@ -169,7 +169,7 @@
Complete compilation of \SAGE is currently not supported on Solaris
or *BSD. It is possible to compile most of \SAGE on
--- doc-main-2.11.0/doc/doc.tex 2008-03-31 13:11:51.0 +1000
+++ doc-main-2.11.1/doc/doc.tex 2008-04-02 08:43:35.0 +1000
@@ -471,7 +471,7 @@
\LaTeX{} provides a variety of environments even without the
additional markup provided by the Python-specific document classes
-
--- doc-main-2.11.0/ref/networking.tex 2008-03-31 13:11:51.0 +1000
+++ doc-main-2.11.1/ref/networking.tex 2008-04-02 08:24:06.0 +1000
@@ -14,7 +14,7 @@
mature, fast, and offers a vast range of networking functionality.
The SAGE Notebook (see Chapter~\ref{ch:notebook})
-is anot
--- doc-main-2.11.0/ref/libs.tex2008-03-31 13:11:51.0 +1000
+++ doc-main-2.11.1/ref/libs.tex2008-04-02 08:23:12.0 +1000
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@
The interfaces are implemented via shared libraries and data is moved
between systems purely in memory. In particular, there is
I think it is entirely possible that fixing import problems may have to come
at the expense of ease of use. I don't see rings.basic helping much. I
envision grand discussions about what constitutes a basic ring and what
should and should not be included. What happens if we still have issues
afte
On Apr 1, 2008, at 2:08 PM, Gary Furnish wrote:
> Why not use import sage.rings.integer_ring as module_integer_ring.
> If the location changes, just change what it is imported as.
I think the point is that re-arranging the rings directory should
have minimal impact outside of it. This is one
--- doc-main-2.11.0/tut/tutworks.tex2008-03-31 13:11:51.0 +1000
+++ doc-main-2.11.1/tut/tutworks.tex2008-04-02 08:00:46.0 +1000
@@ -2777,7 +2777,7 @@
We can also compute the above power in some of the computer
algebra systems that \sage includes. In each case we execute
Why not use import sage.rings.integer_ring as module_integer_ring. If the
location changes, just change what it is imported as.
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Robert Bradshaw <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Apr 1, 2008, at 1:50 PM, William Stein wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 1:36 PM,
On 01/04/2008, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Yes. We're making good progress on the new coercion model (David Roe
> and I were working on it last night, he finished Rings), but it is
> not 3.0 material (both for timing and stability reasons).
>
Thanks for the explanation.
>
On Apr 1, 2008, at 1:50 PM, William Stein wrote:
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Robert Bradshaw
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Apr 1, 2008, at 1:23 PM, Gary Furnish wrote:
>>> Wierd circular import issues can (should) be solved with circular
>>> cdef imports. I think the easiest fix
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Robert Bradshaw
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Apr 1, 2008, at 1:23 PM, Gary Furnish wrote:
> > Wierd circular import issues can (should) be solved with circular
> > cdef imports. I think the easiest fix to crazy deps (group theory
> > on calculus) might be
On Apr 1, 2008, at 1:23 PM, Gary Furnish wrote:
> Wierd circular import issues can (should) be solved with circular
> cdef imports. I think the easiest fix to crazy deps (group theory
> on calculus) might be to do something alone the lines of
> foo = None
> def importcrazydeps():
> global
Separate from the coercion model, I have some ideas for changing where
printing code lives (see the section on printers at the bottom of
http://www.sagemath.org:9001/days7/coercion). I agree that it should
be easy to implement output into other formats, and I'll keep that in
mind when I actually
On Apr 1, 2008, at 2:33 PM, root wrote:
>
> Robert,
>
> I briefly looked over your coercion model.
>
> _repr_ This is the easiest way to define how your object prints
>It should take a string representing your object
>I takes one argument, do_latex
>
>
> I might comment that Axiom
Wierd circular import issues can (should) be solved with circular cdef
imports. I think the easiest fix to crazy deps (group theory on calculus)
might be to do something alone the lines of
foo = None
def importcrazydeps():
import sage.foo as localfoo
foo = localfoo
Then have sage.x.package
Robert,
I briefly looked over your coercion model.
_repr_ This is the easiest way to define how your object prints
It should take a string representing your object
I takes one argument, do_latex
I might comment that Axiom uses an output domain that exports functions
for construct
On Apr 1, 2008, at 12:51 PM, William Stein wrote:
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:46 PM, John Cremona
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Is it safe for me to wait until 3.0 before learning what the "new
>> coercion model" actually is, or should I do that now if I want
>> any new
>> functional
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:46 PM, John Cremona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is it safe for me to wait until 3.0 before learning what the "new
> coercion model" actually is, or should I do that now if I want any new
> functionality to be merged into 3.0?
Sage 3.0 will be released soon -- hopef
Is it safe for me to wait until 3.0 before learning what the "new
coercion model" actually is, or should I do that now if I want any new
functionality to be merged into 3.0?
John
On 01/04/2008, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Apr 1, 2008, at 6:15 AM, David Harvey wrote:
>
> >
On Apr 1, 11:23 am, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Apr 1, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Nick Alexander wrote:
>
> > On 1-Apr-08, at 10:36 AM, Gary Furnish wrote:
>
> >> Right now pulling in group theory may end up pulling in calculus.
> >> There are similar issues all over with really tight
On Apr 1, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Nick Alexander wrote:
> On 1-Apr-08, at 10:36 AM, Gary Furnish wrote:
>
>> Right now pulling in group theory may end up pulling in calculus.
>> There are similar issues all over with really tight coupling
>> between subsystems. It ought to be possible to use group th
On Apr 1, 2008, at 6:15 AM, David Harvey wrote:
> On Apr 1, 2008, at 4:53 AM, mabshoff wrote:
>
>> On Apr 1, 10:41 am, shreevatsa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Someone else was trying to do something, and I tried something and
>>> got
>>> a crash; mabshoff asked me to post a backtrace. (So if it
On Apr 1, 2008, at 5:43 AM, mabshoff wrote:
> Hi,
>
> if you look at
>
> http://wiki.sagemath.org/RecentChanges?max_days=14
>
> you will see once again some idiot spammers creating crap pages in the
> wiki. While we aren't too badly effected by Spam I think it has gotten
> worst over time. So wha
On Apr 1, 7:21 pm, "Gary Furnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2) Every cython file compiles to an separate dll, dramatically increasing
> used space. This would require a change to cython to fix, but ought to be
> doable. Maybe space is not as big of an issue as ease of use though.
Are you s
On 1-Apr-08, at 10:36 AM, Gary Furnish wrote:
> Right now pulling in group theory may end up pulling in calculus.
> There are similar issues all over with really tight coupling
> between subsystems. It ought to be possible to use group theory
> (maybe without a feature or two) without ca
Right now pulling in group theory may end up pulling in calculus. There are
similar issues all over with really tight coupling between subsystems. It
ought to be possible to use group theory (maybe without a feature or two)
without calculus and vice versa.
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Nick A
On 1-Apr-08, at 10:21 AM, Gary Furnish wrote:
> Maybe. I see two real issues.
> 1) Sage right now has really bad global namespace pollution issues
> that make it very hard to import just one or two files. I don't
> see why this shouldn't be fixable, it just needs someone to work on
> it.
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Sage motivation is to create a viable alternative to Ma*.
>
> There are also people, who don't need an alternative to Ma*, but
> rather a good library, read for example this email from Gael:
>
> http://groups
Maybe. I see two real issues.
1) Sage right now has really bad global namespace pollution issues that make
it very hard to import just one or two files. I don't see why this
shouldn't be fixable, it just needs someone to work on it. This would not
be that hard, and would probably catch some subt
> > I wonder if he has enough RAM? Maybe gcc does dumb things
> > when there isn't enough ram sometimes.
>
> Well, I would assume that the OOM killer might do something stupid. If
> malloc fails inside gcc I would expect it to die gracefully. Maybe
> Phil should check /var/log/messages for any
On Apr 1, 5:57 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:52 AM, mabshoff
>
>
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 1, 5:42 pm, philt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi,
>
> > > I downloaded sage-2.11.tar and did make on 2 machines, both 64-bit
> > > Deb
Hi,
Sage motivation is to create a viable alternative to Ma*.
There are also people, who don't need an alternative to Ma*, but
rather a good library, read for example this email from Gael:
http://groups.google.com/group/sympy/msg/f8f497d1d32fab30
who works on Mayavi2 (yet we have paraview3, th
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:52 AM, mabshoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Apr 1, 5:42 pm, philt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I downloaded sage-2.11.tar and did make on 2 machines, both 64-bit
> > Debian.
> > One went fine, "make test" is still running but seems ok.
> >
>
On Apr 1, 5:42 pm, philt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I downloaded sage-2.11.tar and did make on 2 machines, both 64-bit
> Debian.
> One went fine, "make test" is still running but seems ok.
>
> The other make failed
>
> install log:http://www.yobi.be/files/install.log.bz2(300k)
You
Hi,
I downloaded sage-2.11.tar and did make on 2 machines, both 64-bit
Debian.
One went fine, "make test" is still running but seems ok.
The other make failed
install log: http://www.yobi.be/files/install.log.bz2 (300k)
tail:
config.status: creating Makefile
config.status: executing depfiles
On Apr 1, 2008, at 4:53 AM, mabshoff wrote:
> On Apr 1, 10:41 am, shreevatsa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Someone else was trying to do something, and I tried something and
>> got
>> a crash; mabshoff asked me to post a backtrace. (So if it is very
>> long, don't blame me ;-))
>>
>> This is p
On Apr 1, 2:57 pm, Harald Schilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > b) install a Captcha.
>
> +1
>
> this one is good and usefulhttp://recaptcha.net/
>
>
>
> > c) Just like trac hand out account[s] ...
>
> -1
Yeah. I forgot to mention that I consider this as a "last resort" type
of solution after
> b) install a Captcha.
+1
this one is good and useful http://recaptcha.net/
>
> c) Just like trac hand out account[s] ...
-1
I think that's not a good idea, because you are cutting off the "long
tail" of random but useful contributions. e.g. things for the
interact example page or similar. h
Hi,
if you look at
http://wiki.sagemath.org/RecentChanges?max_days=14
you will see once again some idiot spammers creating crap pages in the
wiki. While we aren't too badly effected by Spam I think it has gotten
worst over time. So what should we do?
a) The wiki has a Spam detection system, bu
On Apr 1, 8:58 am, root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Michael Abshoff made that comment. He's motivated by wanting
> >to port Sage to a wide range of architectures and keep everything
> >maintainable, since he works incredibly hard on that. He suffers
> >a huge amount trying to deal with buil
On Apr 1, 9:54 am, bill purvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mar 30, 2008, at 19:37 , William Stein wrote:> Hello folks,
>
> > Sage 2.11 has been released on March 30th, 2008. It is available at
>
> > http://sagemath.org/download.html
>
> Built on my poor little laptop. Toshiba - 2.9G
On Apr 1, 12:46 pm, "John Cremona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sounds like a good idea, and certainly vastly better than my gp code
> which was really only a toy.
>
> I CC'ed this so sge-devel.
>
> John
>
> On 01/04/2008, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi there,
>
> >
Sounds like a good idea, and certainly vastly better than my gp code
which was really only a toy.
I CC'ed this so sge-devel.
John
On 01/04/2008, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> let me (ab)use this opportunity to point to a library for doing these things
> over fi
On 1 Apr, 05:21, "Mike Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've posted some benchmarks
> athttp://wiki.sagemath.org/MultivariateGCDBenchmarks.
>
> --Mike
I can't do timings for the degree 1000 or 2000 (at least Allan Steel
gives it as degree 2000, whereas your page Mike seems to say it is
deg
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:39 AM, Michael Brickenstein
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi!
> Suprise, there exists a tutorial for PolyBoRi.
>
> http://polybori.sourceforge.net/doc/tutorial/index.html
>
> It is available in tex-format under
> doc/tutorial/tutorial.tex
> in our source distributio
FYI
-- Forwarded message --
From: Robert Dodier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:34 AM
Subject: [Maxima] Maxima 5.15 release branch scheduled for April 5
To: Maxima List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hello,
I am planning to make the 5.15 release branch on April 5
(prob
On Apr 1, 7:19 am, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:21 PM, root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[Apologies in advance for going somewhat off topic in this thread and
ranting a little too much :)]
Hi Tim,
> > Both Axiom
> > and Maxima have implementations o
Roman, I thoroughly agree with you that the multipolygcd and factoring
problem is not going to go away overnight. I'm sure by your comments
that you can guess what we've been doing with FLINT for univariate gcd
and how long even that is taking.
Also, I too get frustrated by some of the simple-min
On Mar 30, 2008, at 19:37 , William Stein wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> Sage 2.11 has been released on March 30th, 2008. It is available at
>
> http://sagemath.org/download.html
>
Built on my poor little laptop. Toshiba - 2.9GHz Celeron, 512MB RAM.
Still having some problems with the evaluat
On Apr 1, 10:41 am, shreevatsa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Someone else was trying to do something, and I tried something and got
> a crash; mabshoff asked me to post a backtrace. (So if it is very
> long, don't blame me ;-))
>
> This is probably invalid mathematics that should raise an excepti
Someone else was trying to do something, and I tried something and got
a crash; mabshoff asked me to post a backtrace. (So if it is very
long, don't blame me ;-))
This is probably invalid mathematics that should raise an exception,
but it causes a crash instead on my OS X 10.4. The other person a
That's all very impressive!
All that's left from my original observation is this: Let r be the
radical of n (= product of distinct primes dividing n) and m=n/r.
Then the n'th cyclo poly is f(x^m) where f is the r'th cyclo poly.
So my suggestion had been to first implement the function for
squar
Hi!
Suprise, there exists a tutorial for PolyBoRi.
http://polybori.sourceforge.net/doc/tutorial/index.html
It is available in tex-format under
doc/tutorial/tutorial.tex
in our source distribution.
think it would be nice, to include it in the SAGE documentation in
some way.
I started this dis
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