At 10:35 8/19/00 -0700, Joseph Malicki wrote:
>glibc is documented in info, not manpages. the manpages there are just
>an incomplete and in some cases inaccurate collection, werent they from
>libc5 or something? The wonders of GNU software...
then can we please get rid of the stupid man page
At 07:35 8/21/00 -0400, Trond Eivind Glomsrød wrote:
> > On Sun Aug 20 2000 at 21:03, Chris Abbey wrote:
> > > At 10:35 8/19/00 -0700, Joseph Malicki wrote:
> > > >glibc is documented in info, not manpages. the manpages there are just
> > > >an incomplete
At 19:31 8/27/00 -0400, Matt wrote:
>NO NO NO! /etc/rpm/macros and /etc/rpm/rpmrc are for local changes!
well, I don't know about Mike, Jean or John... but I for one am not
psychic... perhaps a nice little message at the top of /usr/lib/rpm/
copies of the files along the lines of:
# This is a s
At 05:39 9/6/00 +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
> > This sort of thing is inherently a non-portable problem like
> > detecting endianness and other such things. It is unlikely any
>
>Detecting endianness isn't hard to do portably. I did it about 20 years ago,
>in COBOL, when coding for a Honeywell
At 16:50 8/26/00 -0500, Alphonse wrote:
>I installed RH6.2 a few weeks ago and ASSUMED it auto-detected the
>Dual P-III CPUs.
>
>I just checked my /proc/cpuinfo and it lists only ONE of the processors.
>
>What can I do to fix this other than a reinstall?
take a look at lilo.conf first... I seem t
Matt, in other words you do not expect 7.0 to be used for
production purposes, correct?
For those that don't fully understand the impact of RedHat's
decision, please read the statement from the GCC Steering
Committee: http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-announce/2000/msg3.html
now the forces of openn
I'm trying to write a script to automate the building of a symlink
farm for the live NFS install tree from two CDs or ISOs... it
would have been done hours ago except that I can't get basename
to work inside a backtick expression like this:
ln -s $fil `basename $fil`
where fil=/isos/rh/1/RedHat/
I'm trying to build the vmware modules on my newly installed rh7.0
machine. Things aren't going well... :(
kernel-headers-2.4.0 was installed, while everything else
kernel-wise is 2.2.16-22. But since I've installed the full source
package that shouldn't be a problem... should it? not sure why
it
At 18:28 10/22/00 +1000, Tony Nugent wrote:
>On Sat Oct 21 2000 at 18:47, Chris Abbey wrote:
> > ln -s $fil `basename $fil`
>
>Try it like this instead:
>
> ls -s $fil $(basename $fil)
no difference. :(
the real command (in case it matters) is:
find $r/$c/$d
At 18:59 10/22/00 +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
>While there is some ot material there, last time I looked at the list
>description (admittedly quite a while ago) the definition of "development"
>was
>loose enough to include development of programs. Indeed, this is the reason I
>originally subsc
At 14:31 10/22/00 -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote:
>The ontopic to offtopic posts are 1:10 respectively. ;o(
perhaps now that we've got a clearer statement of the intent
of the list that will change.
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seeing as how John and Pete both posted on this I thought I'd quickly
let the list know the results of this... thanks to Mike's set -vx idea
I've found the problem: the backtick substitution is higher
priority than the {} substitution since one is handled by the shell
and the other by find... so t
yup, I saw it... nfs install requires a bit different setup
on the server side, even expanding out the process you used
to include the rest of the files needed by nfs it still isn't
working. My most recent discovery is that the nfs exported
loopback mount points are empty on the client... I suspec
At 14:12 9/14/99 -0400, Andrew E. Mileski wrote:
>Frank Heldt wrote:
>> i looked over the latest initscripts rpm from rawhide and saw some
>> constructs like
>> "cat file | grep expression" in /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit.
>>
>> Well, don't you thing a simple "grep expression file" is easier & faster ?
>
At 16:58 10/1/99 +0200, Benno Senoner wrote:
[...]
>comments ?
none that haven't already been said... I can't emphasis enought the point
that others mention: if a company has that many Linux (or any form of *nix)
boxen then they must have a competent admin group, and that group will use
the tools
>sorry for my ignorance, but aren't PGP signatures included in every RPM ?
>I think when you are installing the rpm the rpm verifies the signature.
every RPM *can* be PGP signed... not all are.
rpm *can* verify the signature of a signed RPM, *IFF* you have pgp installed,
and ask it to do so. Redh
first off... opps... I've been reading about GnuPG for a week or so... but
my mind kept seeing it as GnuPGP.
At 18:13 10/3/99 -0400, Matt Wilson wrote:
>So now, for the good news. Beginning with Red Hat Linux 6.1, all our
>packages are GPG signed. Red Hat Linux purchased in the US includes
>GPG
well, now that it's officially available on their web site you can
view the package list (they listened to all of us screaming last n
releases) at:
http://store.redhat.com/commerce/store.cgi?page=package_list_pwr.html
be warned though... unless my connection is in real bad shape that
server
>Well there are several small editors for people allergic to VI, three
>or four mail readers, same thing with mailers. I am a man of simple
>tastes: I want the best in everrything and I have no place for second
>runners. Only reason to accept a program who is not the best is when
>it has a such
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is anyone else experiencing odd behavior in terms of when items are being
delivered? For example if a thread looks like this
1 foo
2 \--re: foo
3 \--bar [was re: foo]
4 \--re: bar [was re: foo]
5 \--re: bar [was re: foo]
Then it USED to be t
>What's this vreg?
from README.install in the communicator 4.7 tar.gz
=[begin]8<-
The recommended way to install this software is to use 'ns-install',
a relatively simple Bourne shell script that will properly extract
and install all the files now present in this release. It also run
At 14:35 10/31/99 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>John Summerfield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
>> I thought the idea of src.rpms was so users can build from SOURCE CODE.
>We can't ship the source code to netscape. No one can.
so then the point of shipping a netscape src.rpm would be . . . ?
cabb
At 21:38 10/31/99 +0100, Bernhard Rosenkraenzer wrote:
>On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Chris Abbey wrote:
>
>> At 14:35 10/31/99 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>> >John Summerfield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
>> >> I thought the idea of src.rpms was so users can build from S
At 13:42 11/1/99 +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
>Back to what I was trying to do; how do I get a Netscape 4.7 rpm for RHL
>5.x? Previously getting a src.rpm and rebuilding has worked.
goto www.netscape.com, click on download, click on the "Unix, other, &
128-bit" (sorry, John) link, click on "Ot
At 15:05 11/8/99 -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>This is true, and that's a valid request. Service information exported
>via DHCP needs to get around.
>
>However, something we should think about would be if there is a better
>way to do this than having pump edit N different random files in the
>sys
At 17:38 11/8/99 -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>The problem is that for DHCP, the configuration can change *at any
>time*. Unlike BOOTP, where you get a configuration at one point and
>that's it, with DHCP you need to be able to change at runtime.
Right, I understand DHCP... actually it can't be
I must be missing something, because I still don't grok your question
At 16:08 11/10/99 -0800, Steve Dixon wrote:
>breed, sorry:)
>
>Steve Dixon wrote:
>>
>> Can we get any specifics on this new bread of Redhat?
cabbey at home dot net <*> http://members.home.net/cabbey
I want
At 19:14 11/14/99 +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
>Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1108 cylinders
>Units = sectors of 512 bytes, counting from 0
>
> Device BootStart End #sectors Id System
>/dev/hda163 32129 32067 83 Linux
>/dev/hda2 32130 1780001
At 13:26 12/27/99 +0100, Benno Senoner wrote:
>On Fri, 24 Dec 1999, Prasanth Kumar wrote:
>> I just burned all the update RPMS to a cdrom and then do a "rpm -F" which
>> "freshens", or updates only the previously installed packages.
>
>Is this rpm -F 100% safe ?
I've done it a couple times now wi
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At 19:13 1/3/00 -0600, Brad Wyman wrote:
>I am not sure why I am filtering this anymore, anyone out there able to
>tell me why i might be doing so? and what the heck it is?
>thanks
>
>kernel: Packet log: input REJECT ppp0 PROTO=2 208.170.94.86:65535
224.0.1.1:65535 L=32 S=0x00 I=38 F=0x T=1 O=
At 17:09 2/1/00 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] dug out of the snow and wrote:
>Maybe a env var to make it totally backwards even w/o warning?
>$I_WANT_A_BROKEN_BASH perhaps, because why should ps have all the fun? :)
you can have the opposite easily... $I_WANT_NEW_BASH
said "envvar" is set by executin
At 18:26 2/10/00 +1000, Tony Nugent wrote:
>Nice to see a reply so quickly. I hope this issue gets a fair bit of
>debate (as this thread died in a pathetic whimper in the lead-up to
>rh61, and IIRC, rh60 before that).
if memory serves the last time it was an entirely one sided plea from
the user
Anyone know how to track a message in /var/log/messages back to the program
that inserted it? or more immediately what program in the 5.x errata set is
inserting this annoying line? I've been trying to figure this out one
process at a time for a couple months now and am really getting peeved;
so f
At 19:41 2/28/00 -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote:
>priority IMHO. Even experienced users will assume that something
>has went wrong if there are no visual cues indicating
experienced users will alt-pf2 to get to a prompt and run ps or
somehting to see what the heck is happening before hitting the
po
At 06:35 3/1/00 +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
[... somehow I got left out ... John's repying to me, not Mike]
>> At 19:41 2/28/00 -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote:
>> >priority IMHO. Even experienced users will assume that something
>> >has went wrong if there are no visual cues indicating
>>
>> exp
can anyone name a single release wherein this was not asked? anyone?
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At 09:20 3/14/00 +1000, you wrote:
>On Mon Mar 13 2000 at 11:05, Alan Shutko wrote:
>> Personally, I have syslog log everything to VC 12, which makes it easy
>> to check things. It's a quick change to all the machines I administer
>> and makes my life much happier.
>
>Hey, great minds think alike
thought I'd take a second and comment on the 6.2 rc 1.2 (030400) install
process while it formats a couple gigs of real slow dasd
1. I hope all that "driver disk" crap is explained real well in the final
docs. (1.1. I hope there are docs, I couldn't find even draft docs.) Took
a few minutes b
At 10:42 3/16/00 -0500, Mark Komarinski wrote:
>Arright. Take this "who whizzed in whose wheaties" somewhere else.
>Neither of you are making your respective companies look any better
>doing this, and I'm getting personally embarrased to say I'm a RH
>user.
agreed.
>But the question still stand
At 19:06 3/19/00 +0300, Michael Ju. Tokarev wrote:
>One small(?) relatted question: is it possible to mount / readonly?
>At least with mount command itself, it seemed to be impossible, as
>mount tries to modify /etc/mtab, and initscripts directs it to do so;
there are a few chunks of the file spa
At 09:47 4/28/00 -0700, Steven Boswell wrote:
> I can't be the only nut that'd like to experiment
>with i586/i686 compiles. :-)
>
>I dunno, maybe I'll put up a web page for these patches or something.
Steven, I knew I'd find that link I mailed you about offline
http://linux.netnerve.com/i6
If it is a bug in df, it sure isn't a new one...
this is a RH5.2 box (I think all errata applied) fileutils is
3.16-10.
[root@tweedle /mnt]# mount
/dev/sda1 on / type ext2 (rw)
none on /proc type proc (rw)
[root@tweedle /mnt]# df /dev/sda1
Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity
At 20:16 5/22/00 -0400, Steve wrote:
>I'm *really* behind the times here. Can we humor you into two lines of
>description - just a set of packaged enhancements?
umm... not quite, think of it as the CVS image of a distro. Those who
enjoy running production servers on code they did a CVS extract f
umm... are you sure you're logged in directly as root, and not
su'd to root? I've got a scratch 6.2 box behind me and root's
path has /sbin in it when you login directly, also /usr/sbin.
These are NOT there if you su to root however.
cabbey at home dot net <*> http://members.home.net/cabbey
If a
At 21:58 6/7/00 -0600, you wrote:
>redhat made. I'm not sure why they did it either. If you find the file
>where they keep the path, let me know.
/etc/profile< system wide
~/.bash_profile, ~/.{t,}cshrc, ... < user specific
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At 22:46 6/7/00 -0700, Ryan wrote:
>Ok, I see that that is the behavior. Then this means that this was not
>intentionally done, right?
it was intentional that root have /sbin and /usr/sbin in it's path
*when root _logs_in_*
it was intentional that non-root not have /sbin and /usr/sbin in their
At 17:10 6/14/00 -0400, Stephen Schaefer-NCS Sr SE wrote:
>If you configure sudo to let them create new users, what prevents them
>from creating a new user with UID=0? Let me guess that linuxconf and
>the rest of such administrative tools have been designed to be run by
>root, and, as such, haven
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on over to spamcop.net and join us in fighting it the right way.
I've already lart'd the abuse staff at Anglia Polytechnic University
and explicitly drew their attention to how ill-chosen his target
was - I'm sure they'll teach him a
At 13:25 7/24/00 +0200, Daniel Roesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It has. It's long out in the field.
umm... ok, like what for instance? I spent about two weeks doing a comparison
and I couldn't find anything in ssh that OpenSSH didn't do, I'm curious what
I missed.
now the forces of openness
have you looked at the configuration they used to build the kernel?
and the patches applied? That shed a lot of light on it for me.
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