Re: [RE-wrenches] Li-I question

2013-09-23 Thread Ray Walters
m:* re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org]*On Behalf Of *Ray Walters *Sent:* September 19, 2013 9:51 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Li-I question Looks interesting, I've been waiting for Li+ to

Re: [RE-wrenches] transformerless inverters and conductor colors

2013-09-23 Thread Ray Walters
Hi Marco; Article 200.7 specifically prohibits using white wire for anything but grounded conductors. This came up last year on a large project with an ungrounded array, that also had white incorrectly specified in the plans. The appropriate colors would be red for positive, and black for n

Re: [RE-wrenches] transformerless inverters and conductor colors

2013-09-23 Thread Ray Walters
All Cable and probably other companies can add striping and marking to any wire you need. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 9/23/2013 10:57 PM, d...@energysolarnow.com wrote: Marco- You should not tr

Re: [RE-wrenches] transformerless inverters and conductor colors

2013-09-24 Thread Ray Walters
ng the conductor polarity with tape, wouldn't that fall foul of the NEC rule that only allows wire colouring on conductors larger than #6? On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Ray Walters <mailto:r...@solarray.com>> wrote: All Cable and probably other companies can add striping

Re: [RE-wrenches] Breaker Space Knockouts

2013-09-25 Thread Ray Walters
I just did one with 32 tooth/ in. jig saw, then filed it to clean the edges. Came out decent, but took about 20 minutes. I would tape over as well to avoid scratches. I know they make punches, but they're stupid expensive, and easy to break the corners off. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Na

Re: [RE-wrenches] Energy usage for an electric car

2013-09-27 Thread Ray Walters
We did a charging station for a Chevy Volt earlier this year. We actually ran the charger for about a week to come up with the design, based on their mileage ,etc. This also accounted for battery and inverter losses. We added about a 3400 w array (off grid) and they drove about 40 miles round

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid LP Gen advice

2013-09-27 Thread Ray Walters
On Sep 15, 2013, at 8:56 PM, Ray Walters <mailto:r...@solarray.com>> wrote: What supplier are folks using for the Ecogen? R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760

Re: [RE-wrenches] Energy usage for an electric car

2013-09-27 Thread Ray Walters
:05pm, "Ray Walters" said: We did a charging station for a Chevy Volt earlier this year. We actually ran the charger for about a week to come up with the design, based on their mileage ,etc. This also accounted for battery and inverter losses. We added about a 3400 w array (off

Re: [RE-wrenches] On demand WH

2013-09-29 Thread Ray Walters
If its a Rinai, I measured one once that was 30 watts AC standby, and jumped a bit higher when firing. It also needed pure sine. The customer swapped it for a regular hot water tank. Some Bosches and old Palomas, etc. had either a piezo ignition or pilot, but took no power. I'm working on a sy

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator automatic disconnect

2013-09-30 Thread Ray Walters
3rd option would be to have a separate charger (IOTA) that just runs from the generator. No pass through loads to the generator. 4th option would be to use a larger Kohler for backup. My experience is that even if they don't think they'll need it, they eventually will actually use it. Large

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator automatic disconnect

2013-10-01 Thread Ray Walters
Sounds like they need a 20 Kw Kohler. Hot Tub in the future? They'll love their Kohler. The Generac is just way too small to even consider IMHO. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 10/1/2013 8:11 AM,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator automatic disconnect

2013-10-01 Thread Ray Walters
4-1112 office 780-2738 cell* _www.positiveenergysolar.com_ <http://www.positiveenergysolar.com/> On 10/1/2013 9:16 AM, Ray Walters wrote: Sounds like they need a 20 Kw Kohler. Hot Tub in the future? They'll love their Kohler. The Generac is just way too small to even consider IMHO. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solar

Re: [RE-wrenches] Kohler 20kW (Generator automatic disconnect)

2013-10-02 Thread Ray Walters
models for off grid use, 14RESA/L, 8.5RES and the 6VSG, which have an 18 month warranty. Do you know anything otherwise? Larry On Oct 1, 2013, at 8:16 AM, Ray Walters wrote: Sounds like they need a 20 Kw Kohler. Hot Tub in the future? They'll love their Kohler. The Generac is just w

Re: [RE-wrenches] question about pole mount interconnection

2013-10-07 Thread Ray Walters
That's too many separate poles, they get to be a real hassle at more than two (and costly too). I'd go to a multipole mount arrangement, (here's one:http://www.dpwsolar.com/index.php/applications/commercial/9-commercial/17-multi-pole-mounts-g2-mpm-g2 and then all your cabling won't have to jum

Re: [RE-wrenches] Teck 90

2013-10-09 Thread Ray Walters
How is TEK 90 referenced in the NEC? Does it meet the qualifications to be used inside an attic for instance? Finally the onestopbuy link was very light on info; are the cables inside stranded or solid? Thanks, R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master El

Re: [RE-wrenches] Point of connection question

2013-10-09 Thread Ray Walters
HI William; I think you might have a problem. Looking at Enphase's ratings, the M190 has an output rating of 800mA, while the M250 has an output rating of 1.0 A. 10 M250s = 10 amps, 9 M190s = 7.2 amps 17.2 amps exceeds 80% of your 20 amp breaker. I know this won't actually happen, but my und

Re: [RE-wrenches] Oddball wire request

2013-10-10 Thread Ray Walters
I just ran into this on a new Dasol 12 v module. I ended up wiring with USE but couldn't do the series connections. I had to bring each module wire into a J Box. I'm now using Kyocera, as that was a PITA. Since your project is low amperage, have you considered smaller USE like 12 or 14 GA?

Re: [RE-wrenches] GTBB resistance

2013-10-10 Thread Ray Walters
Just to add to Phil's comments: I've been calculating total life cost of battery storage (KWH x cycle life x %DOD) and the costs are 15 to 35 cents/ KWH to cycle a battery. Its even higher for sealed batteries and Li+. It would have to be an amazing cost difference in the TOU rates to beat

Re: [RE-wrenches] SWWP Whisper 200 - Looking for a Short to Ground

2013-10-15 Thread Ray Walters
Not familiar with a Whisper, but here's troubleshooting guide for Bergey with a short. Does it have a rectifier? That could be burned out. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 10/14/2013 8:55 PM, All

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trace 2548 intermittent power problem

2013-10-17 Thread Ray Walters
While the problems seem related, I'm guessing the gen set issue is a low coolant or low oil condition. The generator has sensors that shut it down if they don't see fluid (coolant, or oil) after a few seconds. The symptoms fit that. For the inverter, it is either fried or has some programming

Re: [RE-wrenches] MC Cable for DC runs

2013-10-21 Thread Ray Walters
/I issue this pre disclaimer, as I don't have references to back all my following statements up. Bill B. is very right about references./ My "Understanding" is that if a UL listed wire, cable, or device has a voltage rating and that volt rating just says 600 V, then it applies to both AC and D

[RE-wrenches] Midnite Breaker Boxes (was: Adding Controllers)

2013-10-24 Thread Ray Walters
Hi Jesse; Midnite's breaker boxes would solve your disconnect issue, but I wouldn't use the baby box or Quad box, they're small and tight. I'd actually consider their 6 position combiner box, even though its outdoor rated. Another option would be the Mini DC box. Here's my quick, real man's

Re: [RE-wrenches] Controller Adjustment?

2013-10-28 Thread Ray Walters
Larry's advise is good for us pros, but I find many customers get mixed up and have a harder time properly programming today's MPPT controllers. If the programming gets messed up, much worse things can happen, and its hard to troubleshoot over the phone. I just advise they turn some of the sub

Re: [RE-wrenches] 12V battery charger

2013-10-30 Thread Ray Walters
I just looked into it. Yes there are other options, but none are even close to the price point of the Iota. They are also super simple to setup, get the new IQ4 option. The only downside to the Iota, is they aren't that conducive to a NEC install; you got to live with some exposed cabling, un

Re: [RE-wrenches] Engineered rafters

2013-11-06 Thread Ray Walters
We just did one, and I used some fairly short Timberlok type lags (thinner and stronger)  I wasn't super excited about only having an inch of wood to grab, but the edge wood is stronger and denser than regular 2x material it seemed.  I predrilled the holes, and g

Re: [RE-wrenches] Square D Disconnects mounted on the slope of the roof.

2013-11-09 Thread Ray Walters
We've made up mounting brackets with unistrut for this purpose as well.  We just bend their regular 45 deg angle brackets to match the roof tilt.  It's a bit of work though, so we are going to other solutions like the Soladek, or just putting the combiner box in a

Re: [RE-wrenches] House fire news

2013-11-11 Thread Ray Walters
I've always found much of BIPV using amorphous technology to be somewhat less safe.  Ever see the Unisolar BIPV setup, with all the parallel connections made loose in the attic?  Yuk. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Ray Walters
Where are you buying them from? I am so ready to move away from plastic zip ties. 59 cents is quite a bit, but that's actually doable. Last time I looked at SS ties, they were a couple bucks each. Thanks, R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electr

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Ray Walters
I'm ordering the Jason's PV wire clips. Vinyl coated metal will outlast any plastic sip, and they clip into the slot on the rails: much cleaner than a zip tie all the way around the rail. It doesn't cure all our wire management issues, but it looks like it will solve some of it. In combinati

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Ray Walters
I definitely think cable tray is a good compromise between conduit and loose zip tie wiring; I primarily question rodent protection. Even cable trays can go horribly wrong: I've seen them not supported properly and bend or even fall over spilling cables onto the roof or ground. R.Ray Walters C

Re: [RE-wrenches] SW4024 relay spark issue

2013-11-18 Thread Ray Walters
I thought the relays on the SWs were sealed, so visible arcing sounds bad. Are you sure its not a loose connection? Also on the batteries, anytime I've ever seen someone replace just a couple of cells in a bank that old, it never ended well. It was like that gopher stomping game, and you hit o

Re: [RE-wrenches] SW4024 relay spark issue

2013-11-18 Thread Ray Walters
nergysolar.com_ <http://www.positiveenergysolar.com/> On 11/18/2013 6:13 PM, Ray Walters wrote: I thought the relays on the SWs were sealed, so visible arcing sounds bad. Are you sure its not a loose connection? Also on the batteries, anytime I've ever seen someone replace just a coup

Re: [RE-wrenches] A related question - Individual AC conductors through separate conduits

2013-11-20 Thread Ray Walters
My take on 250.110, is that you could run separate EGCs from either end to bond the metal J boxes, and not have the EGC run the entire length through the PVC. Option 2: attach a Bobcat to one end of the PVC and rip it out of the ground, then use the freshly made trench to reinstall what the in

Re: [RE-wrenches] NEC E-Book Access

2013-11-22 Thread Ray Walters
PDF was pretty decent for searching and copying quotes. Never tried the E book. My electrical supply house had a great deal on the book before with a free download of the PDF version. I'm about to ging hunting up the best deal on the 2014 Handbook. Any leads? R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, In

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fwd: Re: DC arc welder?

2013-11-23 Thread Ray Walters
Leave it to Windy to be about a generation ahead of the rest of us on all things RE once again. Cheers to Windy:-) I still own a Battery Weld 2000 from the 90s, which is a MIG machine that runs on 24 v dc. The limit is the battery. It can blast at over 200 amps, if you have enough battery t

Re: [RE-wrenches] Remote monitoring for off-grid system

2013-12-05 Thread Ray Walters
First, Outback does have a solution: the Flexnet and Mate 3 stuff; Outback's stuff is pricey though. They're also a mess to wire IMHO. Here's 2 others to consider: Pentametric from Bogart Engineering, and Midnite Solar. Midnite Solar's monitoring is free when you buy their controllers. They al

Re: [RE-wrenches] Remote monitoring for off-grid system

2013-12-05 Thread Ray Walters
rends (battery voltage, SOC, battery currents etc) over time? I like to show people that they are using more power than they think. Thanks On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Ray Walters <mailto:r...@solarray.com>> wrote: First, Outback does have a solution: the Flexnet and Mate 3 stuff;

[RE-wrenches] Fwd: Re: Remote monitoring for off-grid system

2013-12-06 Thread Ray Walters
7; FYI. I kinda like your name, "Gizmo Jr."... Might have to use that one some day for another product. boB On 12/5/2013 5:30 PM, Ray Walters wrote: First, Outback does have a solution: the Flexnet and Mate 3 stuff; Outback's stuff is pricey though. They're also a mess to

Re: [RE-wrenches] Chloride batteries

2013-12-11 Thread Ray Walters
Hi William; My now apparently orphaned copy of Maui Solar Software has Pacific Chloride Brand batteries listed in its data base that are industrial flooded lead acid batteries. They have very similar performance parameters as other fork lift batteries like the HUP. I don't have cycle life i

Re: [RE-wrenches] Entertainment: A contrarian approach to off grid PV

2013-12-16 Thread Ray Walters
I've found that instead of insulting them, I just let them talk about it for a while. Then usually they mention what a pain it is, and how unreliable, and then I gently point to the various potential fire hazards, and that even though 12 vdc can't electrocute you, it sure can start fires I

[RE-wrenches] Cycle Life

2013-12-18 Thread Ray Walters
Hi; I was just doing some cost comparisons of different batteries for a customer. I found that on Rolls website, they've apparently upgrade their cycle life of the S5000 series to 2100 cycles (or more) at 80% DOD. It has been 1500 cycles at 80% DOD for quite a while, so: Question 1, what new

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cycle Life

2013-12-18 Thread Ray Walters
ons/renewable-energy-systems On Dec 18, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Ray Walters wrote: Hi; I was just doing some cost comparisons of different batteries for a customer. I found that on Rolls website, they've apparently upgrade their cycle life of the S5000 series to 2100 cycles (or more) at 80% DOD.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sick pack

2013-12-19 Thread Ray Walters
You can waste lots of time trying to save an already dieing set of batteries, or just cut to the chase and install a new set. L16s are not a long life battery. While some folks can baby them and get 10 years, I've seen failures at less than 5 years. Compare cycle life; most L16s are only 600

Re: [RE-wrenches] Higher LVR to force full re-charge in small OGPV systems

2013-12-30 Thread Ray Walters
I agree with Allan and Dan, and would also add that modeling the performance in some type of software would also be important. Both PV Design Pro (now apparently obsolete) and HOMER allow you to set on and off set points based on SOC. You can literally see how the battery is cycled to predict i

Re: [RE-wrenches] Higher LVR to force full re-charge in small OGPV systems

2013-12-31 Thread Ray Walters
I'll chime back in on a few points: To MPPT or not: It all gets down to the budget: I find the tipping point to be around 250 to 400 watts. My small systems usually don't have MPPT, and as soon as I get into more than a pair of modules, I'm using the cheaper 60 cell modules with MPPT. I like

Re: [RE-wrenches] OFF-LINE: Re: Higher LVR to force full re-charge in small OGPV systems

2013-12-31 Thread Ray Walters
Products makes a 25A MPPT with a built-in digital voltmeter. Perhaps it could be a two-in-one option for Eric? Stay warm. Happy New Year to you and yours Dan ------------ On Tue, 12/31/13, Ray Walters wrote: Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Higher LVR to fo

Re: [RE-wrenches] Deka AGMs

2014-01-06 Thread Ray Walters
I finally found a cycle life chart on these: they're rated at 1200 cycles to 80% DOD, and about 2000 cycles @40% DOD. In an "average" off grid system at 12 years old, I'd say they're near the end of their life. In a back up setup, who knows. I've tested systems like this before, I basically turn

Re: [RE-wrenches] IBE Battery Flags

2014-01-06 Thread Ray Walters
Hi William; I haven't seen any standard really.  I noticed that HUPs switched from 5/16" hardware to 1/4".  I'm old school like you, and prefer 5/16" hardware, however I think if you look at the lbs of compression that the 1/4" bolt can provide, it's still

Re: [RE-wrenches] Replacement for Whisper 500

2014-01-17 Thread Ray Walters
Bergey is the only reliable choice I'm aware of right now.  They have the XL.1  1000 watt, and I believe it jumps to the 10 kw unit. The 1 Kw units are now using Midnite Controllers, which is definitely an improvement. I can't advise on adapting to the tower

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback 200 RE

2014-01-18 Thread Ray Walters
Also consider the large industrial batteries such as the Trojan Industrial 2 v models, HUPs, IBE, etc. They have longer cycle life, and therefore are a better deal in the long run. Batteries are the weak link in off grid systems, so you want to really make sure you're getting the right battery,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Very small PV systems for surveillance or other "micro" loads

2014-01-21 Thread Ray Walters
On these small projects, its very important to nail down the exact load, to keep the pricing sane. I list on the estimate what the system is designed to do; for instance 18 w load 24 hrs/ day. Then if something goes wrong and they are running more than they should you just gently point out tha

Re: [RE-wrenches] Very small PV systems for surveillance or other "micro" loads

2014-01-21 Thread Ray Walters
rea lighting to the system. It won't use much power.." Dan Fink On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Ray Walters <mailto:r...@solarray.com>> wrote: On these small projects, its very important to nail down the exact load, to keep the pricing sane. I list on the es

Re: [RE-wrenches] Very small PV systems for surveillance or other"micro" loads

2014-01-21 Thread Ray Walters
Kevin is right on about this too. I just passed on a project, where the customer insisted they needed a 3 Kw array, but wouldn't share the load calculations (and they expected a 5 yr warranty!) I knew if we were having trouble communicating now, it would only get ugly when they were sitting i

Re: [RE-wrenches] NEC 2014 690.12 Rapid Shutdown

2014-01-21 Thread Ray Walters
Hi Brian; Invoking 90.4 is a decent idea; the only problem is those smarty pants over at Midnite have been working on their Birdhouse disconnect system for several years already in anticipation of this requirement. I'm not up on all of this (still waiting for my copy of the 2014 Handbook) bu

Re: [RE-wrenches] RE-wrenches Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29

2014-01-23 Thread Ray Walters
I must jump on my soap box, as I have so many time in the past, and follow up Glenn's comment here. We worry so much about details of PV arrays, while batteries are serious safety hazards that no one (including the NEC) ever wants to address. Not only can they not be de-energized, they have a

Re: [RE-wrenches] RE-wrenches Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29

2014-01-23 Thread Ray Walters
I'm definitely interested in being involved too. I really respect how difficult the language crafting can be, and the frustration to have certain intent be misconstrued by an AHJ some where else later. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician

Re: [RE-wrenches] Static shock

2014-01-25 Thread Ray Walters
I've heard that the entire array can build a surface static charge, though I don't recall getting zapped by the array. Seems like better grounding would take care of that. I get popped touching ungrounded metal like my truck. It can be very alarming, much more voltage than you might expect. I

Re: [RE-wrenches] 72-cell modules

2014-01-30 Thread Ray Walters
No suggestions on modules, but possibly you could swap all the good modules onto 2 poles, and modify the 3rd rack to hold a set of all newer modules? I just sold a customer a bunch of Solar World 270s, to replace dead Astro Power modules on Wattsun racks. They went for a total square footage tha

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off grid heat pumps

2014-02-04 Thread Ray Walters
I'd 2nd Hilton's comments. Energy efficiency can reduce heating loads to almost nothing. The German standard "passive solar" design uses almost R100 insulation, triple pane Lo E windows, doors with multiple seals, and are so tight they require an air to air heat exchanger to insure fresh air.

Re: [RE-wrenches] SnapNrack

2014-02-05 Thread Ray Walters
Good point, Jason. I like Snap N Rack's products, but when I tried to order equipment (no distributors carry their stuff in Colorado) they never returned my calls or emails. I'd certainly be wary of their future support, if they won't even return calls for sales. Frankly I'm going to start

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery venting issue

2014-02-05 Thread Ray Walters
I can give you one example for them to consider: UPS systems. They all use sealed VRLA batteries, and are not vented to the outside. 2nd thing for them to chew on: The Midnite Battery boxes are ETL listed, and you are installing them to the manufacturer's recommendations. 3rd, your use of arti

Re: [RE-wrenches] Subject: Re: Best Ground Racking?

2014-02-06 Thread Ray Walters
We use Anti- Seize Lubricant made by Permalex. I get it at the auto parts store. I have an 8 oz. bottle with built in brush on applicator. Definitely recommended on all SS hardware. I took apart another installer5's rack to add modules, and half the bolts were ruined and had to be replaced. I

Re: [RE-wrenches] Subject: Re: Best Ground Racking?

2014-02-06 Thread Ray Walters
1 PM, Chris Mason mailto:cometenergysyst...@gmail.com>> wrote: Probably Permatex. On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Ray Walters mailto:r...@solarray.com>> wrote: We use Anti- Seize Lubricant made by Permalex. I get it at the auto parts store. I have an 8 oz. bottle w

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC Fusing/Breakers for Battery Circuits

2014-02-07 Thread Ray Walters
I started using automotive SAE rated resettable circuit breakers like these: http://www.delcity.net/store/Hi!Amp-Surface-Mount-!-%3Cbr%3EManual-Reset-%28Switchable%29/p_193073 I'm only using these on smaller stand alone (non NEC) off grid systems, but they are sealed, and allow protection right a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sunny Island Battery Disconnects

2014-02-07 Thread Ray Walters
I'm working on something similar. I think the Flex 1000 is the only reasonable choice that can handle more than 2 of the large format DC breakers. Midnite has the more expensive MNBCB -1000 Battery Combiner box, but there just isn't enough documentation to figure out what it can and can't do

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sunny Island Battery Disconnects

2014-02-09 Thread Ray Walters
Yes, they make a 3 pole class T fused disconnect. You could have 3 strings fused separately and then combined in a single pull disco, UL listed too. I even have one here, or I can provide their contact info. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electr

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sunny Island Battery Disconnects

2014-02-10 Thread Ray Walters
pick bulletins 129, 130, and 130 A those are the sizes most of us will be interested in. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 2/9/2014 2:26 PM, Ray Walters wrote: Here's the spec sheet on the 400 am

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC Fusing/Breakers for Battery Circuits

2014-02-11 Thread Ray Walters
Boltswitch used to make pullout discos for the smaller R fuses too. You can use them, but they are a time delay fuse, so you need to look at trip curves for sizing (don't just substitute the same amp rated RK5 for a T) The R fuses are physically much larger, and are rated to 300 vdc, class T t

Re: [RE-wrenches] Long transmission line inductance and LED light flicker

2014-02-12 Thread Ray Walters
I just had an idea on this situation from August's comment. I'm sure you've checked already, but are you sure that ground and neutral aren't bonded in both locations, causing current to flow through the ground system? I've seen many multiple building properties inadvertently send both a ground

[RE-wrenches] Computer Interfaces (was: morning star ts-mppt-60-600)

2014-02-12 Thread Ray Walters
The Midnite Classic can be set with the onboard screen, and the Classic Lite can be set with dip switches, but I actually prefer to pull both up on the router in Windows. The software finds any Classics connected in a few seconds, and its much easier to navigate and check all the settings in a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Firefly Batteries

2014-02-14 Thread Ray Walters
1000 cycles at 80% DOD for a small format sealed battery is impressive. It all gets down to what they cost, and if they really live up to those numbers in the real world. It also looks like they only have a group 31 sized 12 volt model, so that limits their use to smaller GTB installations mo

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Back feed from Radian.

2014-02-17 Thread Ray Walters
Alot of these generator setups need 2 regulators, so usually the regular one stays at the tank, size the pipe for the flow rate ( just like wire and amps;-) .) and put the 2nd regulator right at the generator. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master E

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Back feed from Radian.

2014-02-17 Thread Ray Walters
: to further complicate things, i have seen "regulator oscillation" problems with 2 in series. todd On Monday, February 17, 2014 2:30pm, "Ray Walters" said: Alot of these generator setups need 2 regulators, so usually the regular one stays at the tank, size the pi

Re: [RE-wrenches] Midnite solar Charge controllers

2014-02-17 Thread Ray Walters
Volatile memory was a pet peeve of mine with the Trace SW inverters. I quit even trying to program them, because they would always end up getting reset anyway. However, I've tested this feature on the Midnite Classics and I could not get them to drop programming. I used the computer app, set

Re: [RE-wrenches] Bergey Excel 1 wind generator issues

2014-02-19 Thread Ray Walters
We've done some research on this, as we're doing an XL.1 project at 12 v right now. I don't have first hand experience with the Clipper yet, but I have over a decade of XL.1 experience and many years with Midnite's electronics. The Clipper is exactly what is needed. It also moves the rectifier

Re: [RE-wrenches] Bergey Excel 1 wind generator issues

2014-02-19 Thread Ray Walters
f it, just have no experience with it yet. Jeremy Rodriguez, President All Solar, Inc. 1463 M Penrose Colorado 81240 719-372-3808 office 719-372-3804 fax www.asolarelectric.com <http://www.asolarelectric.com> Sent by Jeremy's iPhone. Sorry for typos and shorthand! On Feb 19

Re: [RE-wrenches] controllers

2014-02-20 Thread Ray Walters
I agree that middle point is tough. I actually still use PWM for small stuff, when I can find reasonably priced 12 v modules. I use the Blue Sky 30 amp PWM. I'm testing a Midnite Kid right now that will probably fit the bill. Also they're new Whizbang Jr can work with all their controllers an

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium ion

2014-02-27 Thread Ray Walters
Here's a supplier of mine in the Electric Vehicle world where Li+ is becoming the go to battery choice because of the higher energy density. http://www.thunderstruck-ev.com/batteries-ev/lithium-ion-ev.html I'm still talking customers out of Li+ for solar, because of the cost and charging issues

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium ion

2014-02-27 Thread Ray Walters
Larry; You mentioned you tested CALB batteries; what was your experience with them? R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 2/27/2014 4:44 PM, Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems wrote: Jay,

Re: [RE-wrenches] conductors and the 120% rule

2014-03-04 Thread Ray Walters
What is the length of the conduit to the subpanel? That will determine whether to apply the derates. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 3/4/2014 1:34 PM, Kirk Herander wrote:

Re: [RE-wrenches] "Extra Low Voltage"

2014-03-06 Thread Ray Walters
New Mexico used to have a low voltage electrician. It was for communications guys, and was limited to under 50 v. Actually pretty useless, since most systems had inverters. Also it wasn't that much harder to just get a regular electrical license. Also, some considered even 24 v systems to be ov

Re: [RE-wrenches] Polar Power

2014-03-10 Thread Ray Walters
I've got one customer that has one, they're pricey, but seem well made. They had quite a few problems and are going to a regular AC generator setup and decent inverter/ charger. The off grid solar biz has tried DC gen sets several times, and it has never worked out. The theoretical gain in ef

Re: [RE-wrenches] Huge battery bank recommendation

2014-03-11 Thread Ray Walters
Consider the HUP Solar One battery, the 125-33. It has 2490 AH at the 20 hr rate. The warranty is for 2100 cycles to 80% DOD. Also most of the jumpers are included (bus bars within each 12 v group) We've had nothing but happy customers since we started using the HUPs. R.Ray Walters CTO, Sol

Re: [RE-wrenches] Huge battery bank recommendation

2014-03-11 Thread Ray Walters
wable Energy Systems www.oregonsolarworks.com <http://www.oregonsolarworks.com> 541-218-0201 m 541-299-0402 o On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Ray Walters <mailto:r...@solarray.com>> wrote: Consider the HUP Solar One battery, the 125-33. It has 2490 AH at the 20 hr rate.

Re: [RE-wrenches] GB Industrial Batteries

2014-03-12 Thread Ray Walters
Check the specs carefully, I had a customer looking at the GBs, and the amp hr rating was suspicious, seems like they were claiming a much a higher AH per lb than other lead acid batteries. Also they had verbally told the customer a higher cycle life than what was listed in the actual warranty

Re: [RE-wrenches] Autocad

2014-03-12 Thread Ray Walters
I use Turbocad,  it can open Autocad files, and is much more affordable.  Seems to work well. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 3/12/2014 5:16 PM, Jason Szumlanski wrote:

[RE-wrenches] 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter

2014-03-24 Thread Ray Walters
Hi All; I'm exploring options for an off grid project with an existing 30 Kw Kohler wired for 208 vac 3 phase. The generator runs some 8 hp air compressors, so rewiring it is not an option. We're primarily interested in reducing gen run time from the current situation: 14 hrs/ day. So far, o

Re: [RE-wrenches] 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter

2014-03-24 Thread Ray Walters
sed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 3/24/2014 8:58 PM, William Miller wrote: Ray Sunny Island or XW. Wm -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Ray Walters Sent: Monday, March 24,

Re: [RE-wrenches] 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter

2014-03-25 Thread Ray Walters
mware would not sell efficiently. Also the BOS cabinet is way too small, but aren't they all? Wm -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Ray Walters Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 8:35 PM To: RE-

Re: [RE-wrenches] 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter

2014-03-25 Thread Ray Walters
rging algorithm and integral gen start control. Kevin -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org]On Behalf Of Ray Walters Sent: March 24, 2014 6:44 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] 208 3 phase Off Grid Inve

Re: [RE-wrenches] 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter

2014-03-25 Thread Ray Walters
boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org]On Behalf Of Ray Walters Sent: March 24, 2014 6:44 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter Hi All; I'm exploring options for an off grid project with an existing 30 Kw Kohler wired for 208 vac 3 phase. The generator runs some 8

Re: [RE-wrenches] 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter

2014-03-25 Thread Ray Walters
This may be a rare load profile, but the possibility does exist. The SMA white paper proposed by another wrench sums up the Pros pretty well. Let me know if you need a copy. William Miller Solar On Mar 25, 2014, at 5:42 PM, Ray Walters wrote: I had another related question to add to using t

Re: [RE-wrenches] 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter

2014-03-25 Thread Ray Walters
27;t installed one yet. SMA inverters are more expensive. And they work very well. They also have a very good battery charging algorithm and integral gen start control. Kevin -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.o

Re: [RE-wrenches] 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter

2014-03-26 Thread Ray Walters
/2014 7:31 AM, Phil Undercuffler wrote: You mentioned this is out of the country -- is it 230v line to neutral, or 120/208? OutBack's export Radian can do three phase, up to 72kW continuous. HTH, Phil On Tuesday, March 25, 2014, Ray Walters <mailto:r...@solarray.com>> w

Re: [RE-wrenches] 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter

2014-03-26 Thread Ray Walters
Hi Bob; This sounds like once again Midnite is solving my problems, before I even know I have them. Can your interface work directly with the SI, or does it require the Sunny Web box, too? Also, is Midnite's Whizbang Jr. shunt sensing usable in this, or do you just defer to the SI's current s

Re: [RE-wrenches] Oddball pumping question

2014-03-27 Thread Ray Walters
First look at what his actual pumping needs are, and come up with a more efficient way to provide the water. I just got back tonight from changing out hydronic circulators for a customer with new Hi Efficiency brushless ECM models. I was able to cut the watt draw by 65%. Also, its very possible

Re: [RE-wrenches] Well pump relay question

2014-04-09 Thread Ray Walters
I've had the contacts arc and not disconnect at 144 vdc. I used a modified relay from an electric vehicle company: KTA services. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 4/4/2014 7:06 AM, Michael Morningst

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flashing vs Sealant... again (is sealant code defensible?)

2014-04-11 Thread Ray Walters
It definitely depends on the flashing. The Oatey type with the rubber gasket die after several years, and leak. For our installations, it really depends on the roof. In some cases with metal roofs, a flashing can't really have the overlap needed, and so it just becomes a big gooed on L foot rea

Re: [RE-wrenches] Myths, Schemes and Scams request

2014-04-13 Thread Ray Walters
Hi Allan; Sounds like a great presentation, that I would want most customers to see before even talking to them. One thing you that might already be covering: Now that PV modules are so cheap, many people are assuming a quality installed system goes for $1/ watt. I have to bust the myth ever

Re: [RE-wrenches] Myths, Schemes and Scams request

2014-04-13 Thread Ray Walters
I'm game: let's do it. I was just at Home Depot this weekend talking about male male extension cords.. Ray I also admit to, when in a whimsical mood, asking staff at Home Depot / Ace hardware etc., how to make up a male to male extension cord so my Honda generator can run my house in an

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