200.6 allows 3 continuous white stripes to identify the grounded conductor on wires smaller than #6, so All cable's marking would qualify, we just can't field tape it. (which makes sense: if the white tape falls off, and you're left with 2 black wires, you're in for trouble...) Second, we are allowed to tape wires all we want for our own purposes (like DC polarity, or circuit ID) I love my 3M and Brady wire label makers. I could even put a label on a white wire that said: "DC negative, grounded conductor"
We just can't use tape all by itself to identify the grounded conductor.

R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760

On 9/24/2013 6:05 PM, Chris Mason wrote:
Just brought it up with AEESolar and they can supply red and black PV Wire. In reference to marking the conductor polarity with tape, wouldn't that fall foul of the NEC rule that only allows wire colouring on conductors larger than #6?


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Ray Walters <r...@solarray.com <mailto:r...@solarray.com>> wrote:

    All Cable and probably other companies can add striping and
    marking to any wire you need.

    R.Ray Walters
    CTO, Solarray, Inc
    Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
    Licensed Master Electrician
    Solar Design Engineer
    303 505-8760  <tel:303%20505-8760>

    On 9/23/2013 10:57 PM, d...@energysolarnow.com
    <mailto:d...@energysolarnow.com> wrote:
    Marco- You should not transition to THHN wire at all for the DC
    run. The PV wire is double insulated for a good reason- the
    transformerless inverters are such suckers for a ground fault
    that they need the extra protection. That's why the NEC specifies
    PV wire.
    I recently did an installation like you wrote, with a transition
    at the j-box. This developed an intermittent ground fault when
    wet, and when the P1 inverter failed it was deemed out of
    warranty.  Learn from my mistake-- use PV wire all the way to the
    inverter.

    That said, does anyone know where to get 1000 volt PV wire in
    colors other than red, black, and white?
    It would be nice to color code the positive runs like is possible
    with colors of THHN.
    I'm thinking of buying spools of white and spraying plastic paint
    on them for a striped color coding.

    Don Barch
    Energy Solar


        Message: 3
        Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 09:27:30 -1000
        From: "Marco Mangelsdorf" <ma...@pvthawaii.com
        <mailto:ma...@pvthawaii.com>>
        To: "'RE-wrenches'" <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
        <mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>>
        Subject: [RE-wrenches] transformerless inverters and
        conductor colors
        Message-ID: <000001ceb892$f3e41470$dbac3d50$@com>
        Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

        Hi all,

        We're doing more and more installs with TL inverters (SMA and
        P1).

        I'm using double-insulated wire from the array string to the
        first
        enclosure, as in j-box, and then transitioning to standard
        THHN/THWN wire.

        --------------------------------------------



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