Re: [RBW] Tire Choice -- 99 Years Ago

2011-02-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
No fenders or racks or decaleured front bags, either. Hmm, and well before the crabon phase: I wonder if racers knew something even back then. Patrick Moore, "who has been enjoying his 65s" Moore On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Eric Norris wrote: > I was looking at my Tour de France calendar a

[RBW] Re: FS: Ibex El Fito wool Knickers - medium-sizing?

2011-02-28 Thread Michael_S
That's nice to hear. I was looking at getting a pair but I'm not sure of sizing. I wear a large in all other shorts but maybe I'll get an XL in these? ~Mike On Feb 27, 10:57 pm, cyclotourist wrote: > Brand new with tags.  I wear a medium in everything else, but these are a > touch too tight.  I

[RBW] Re: Tire Choice -- 99 Years Ago

2011-02-28 Thread grant
He WAS walking,,, and we don't know what he was THINKING, I've got lots photos of old timers riding WSTB (did I make that up?) 35s. But 23s or 35s, no matter. Racers were have always been sketchy ones to copy! G On Feb 27, 5:37 pm, Eric Norris wrote: > I was looking at my Tour de France calenda

[RBW] Re: Tire Choice -- 99 Years Ago

2011-02-28 Thread newenglandbike
In the 1860's they knew that the *real* secrets to comfort and speed are wrought-iron frames and steel tires. This 'vulcanized rubber' stuff is just marketing hype http://imagecache6.allposters.com/LRG/46/4609/QKZFG00Z.jpg http://www.copakeauction.com/bicycles/2003-bicycles/046.jpg On Feb 28

[RBW] Re: Chilly Hilly?

2011-02-28 Thread Andy.M
Andy from SoCal thought that it was too chilly, and worse, too windy! -A On Feb 27, 9:03 pm, James Warren wrote: > Was that Andy from Southern California and his Atlantis? > > On Feb 27, 2011, at 9:00 PM, rob markwardt wrote: > > > It was a lousy to day to ride but I still had a good time...winte

[RBW] Why does the Brooks B17 (and other wide Brooks) have vent holes?

2011-02-28 Thread Earl Grey
Did a quick google search and searched the archives of various lists, but didn't find an answer. Anyone know? Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups

[RBW] Re: FS: Ibex El Fito wool Knickers - medium-sizing?

2011-02-28 Thread rperks
Mike, I have been wearing an XL all winter, my waist measures at 37-38 with a tape, although levi's help perpetuate my fantasy of a 36 fitting loosely. If you pull a tape around your real waist just below the Belly button the ibex charts are really close. I would have loved to think I was still a

[RBW] Re: Tire Choice -- 99 Years Ago

2011-02-28 Thread newenglandbike
Well, we can't tell *exactly* what he's thinking-- but I think we've all seen that look on his face once or twice in our lives. It's the look that says: "dang, why is the fork crown so narrow on this thing". The guy behind him is clearly jonesing for Schwalbe marathons to come out (he couldn

Re: [RBW] Why does the Brooks B17 (and other wide Brooks) have vent holes?

2011-02-28 Thread Eric Norris
So they ... vent, I suppose. Lots of heat is generated in that area, and even a little venting helps on a hot day. --Eric N On Feb 28, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Earl Grey wrote: > Did a quick google search and searched the archives of various lists, > but didn't find an answer. Anyone know? > > Thank

[RBW] Re: FS: Supernova E3 Triple with Tail light

2011-02-28 Thread BykMor
I don't think it's unsellable. If I hadn't just bought mine, I'd be very interested. The price is great. Check out Supernova's website. Current 24 Hour World Champions used this light! http://www.supernova-lights.com/en/products/e3_triple2.html Again, your Hunqapillar needs one!!! (This commen

[RBW] Re: Tire Choice -- 99 Years Ago

2011-02-28 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Did they even have fat tires for bikes in 1912? Did clincher rims exist? I always thought the fat tire age was essentially ushered in by the Pre-WWII Frank Schwinn designs, Elgins, Hawthornes, etc...) Those early Tour riders were indeed a brave (if not totally insane) breed for sure... But today

[RBW] Re: Why does the Brooks B17 (and other wide Brooks) have vent holes?

2011-02-28 Thread Montclair BobbyB
I don't know the answer, but somehow Brooks got it just right with the B17, and the holes must have something to do with it. (Maybe like the ridges in Ruffles, or the holes drilled in a White Castle hamburger??... Hey, if it don't need messin with, DON'T mess with it). I 've considered other Broo

[RBW] Re: FS: Ibex El Fito wool Knickers - medium-sizing?

2011-02-28 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Mike, I'm at the top end of medium (34) and Novarra (REI), MUSA and Kucharik all fit me fine in medium. The Ibex was uncomfortably tight around my abdomen though. I should have ordered a large at the same time, to check and see if that would work, but that's not usually a problem. If I were you

[RBW] Re: Why does the Brooks B17 (and other wide Brooks) have vent holes?

2011-02-28 Thread Earl Grey
Okay, reasonable, but then why put them only in the wider models which are designed for more leisurely, presumably less sweat-producing riding? Gernot On Feb 28, 11:30 pm, Eric Norris wrote: > So they ... vent, I suppose. Lots of heat is generated in that area, and even > a little venting helps

[RBW] Re: Tire Choice -- 99 Years Ago

2011-02-28 Thread newenglandbike
I was curious about this myself, and found this link (among others, but this summary seems well put-together): http://www.everybicycletire.com/Encyclopedia/History.asp -Matt On Feb 28, 11:53 am, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > Did they even have fat tires for bikes in 1912?  Did clincher rims > exi

Re: [RBW] Re: Why does the Brooks B17 (and other wide Brooks) have vent holes?

2011-02-28 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 09:04 -0800, Earl Grey wrote: > Okay, reasonable, but then why put them only in the wider models which > are designed for more leisurely, presumably less sweat-producing > riding? The B.17 is a very old design. I believe it originated in the 19th century, but I know for cert

[RBW] Re: Why does the Brooks B17 (and other wide Brooks) have vent holes?

2011-02-28 Thread stevep33
To save weight! ; ) On Feb 28, 11:00 am, Earl Grey wrote: > Did a quick google search and searched the archives of various lists, > but didn't find an answer. Anyone know? > > Thanks, > > Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" gr

[RBW] Re: Why does the Brooks B17 (and other wide Brooks) have vent holes?

2011-02-28 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Ah, but the Brooks B17 Narrow also has them, too. So apparently it's not confined solely to the wider models. Gernot, this may in fact be a reasonable question to ask the folks at Brooks... which I have done... hopefully we'll get a defnitive answer. BB On Feb 28, 12:04 pm, Earl Grey wrote: >

[RBW] Re: Why does the Brooks B17 (and other wide Brooks) have vent holes?

2011-02-28 Thread Jim Cloud
According to one blog posting that I've found with a Google search the holes are used for the positioning lugs during the manufacturing process (although they might also serve a secondary purpose for ventilation). This makes some sense. If you look at the older rilsan Cinelli/Unicanitor saddles,

[RBW] Re: Chilly Hilly?

2011-02-28 Thread Benedikt
I'm just glad I took the early ferry. That storm got FIERCE after I got home. As it is I came home, took a nap, and woke up with a awful head cold. Too much exercise on too little sleep, too much cold, and beer. I don't think my immune system stood a chance. -Brian On Feb 28, 7:59 am, "Andy.M

[RBW] Dumb Tire Mounting Question

2011-02-28 Thread Minh
I have a really dumb tire question for the collective, i'm asking because i'm dumb-founded and need help. I spent my saturday waiting for the plumber swapping tires around on my bikes. Schwalbe Marathon + 700x25 went on the go-fast bike. They were a bear to get seated, and then on, but i was eve

[RBW] Re: Dumb Tire Mounting Question

2011-02-28 Thread bfd
On Feb 28, 11:02 am, Minh wrote: > I have a really dumb tire question for the collective, i'm asking > because i'm dumb-founded and need help. > > I spent my saturday waiting for the plumber swapping tires around on > my bikes.  Schwalbe Marathon + 700x25 went on the go-fast bike.  They > were a

[RBW] Re: Dumb Tire Mounting Question

2011-02-28 Thread William
There are some rim/tire combinations that are tighter than others. In my experience, folding tires have a little more give than metal bead tires, so even if the tire is a touch undersized and/or the rim is a touch oversized, you can still make it work. Snakebite in the situation you describe is a

Re: [RBW] Dumb Tire Mounting Question

2011-02-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
The Park Tool tire jack works better for me than the VAR. But sometimes Specialized Pry Babies work well enough without pinching. And finally, I have found that I can mount even surprisingly tight tires (tho' not the very tightest) using the heel of my hand and my thumbs, the secret being to move f

Re: [RBW] Re: Dumb Tire Mounting Question

2011-02-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 1:13 PM, William wrote: . As you shove the lever up between the rim and > > the tire, make a conscious effort to scrape the lever against the > sidewall of the rim, so the tube cannot possibly get nipped between > lever and rim. > > This is a very good technique. I think

[RBW] Re: Dumb Tire Mounting Question

2011-02-28 Thread Patrick in VT
On Feb 28, 2:02 pm, Minh wrote: > Any ideas before i try another tube? Patch the tubes that you nicked and re-use them! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.co

[RBW] Re: Dumb Tire Mounting Question

2011-02-28 Thread Minh
Thanks guys, figured i was just getting frustrated, this was like 4th tire i mounted on Saturday :) i found a decent youtube video, no levers! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XUFVrl0UT4 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To po

[RBW] Re: Dumb Tire Mounting Question

2011-02-28 Thread William
That's an excellent video. No smoke, no mirrors, no levers. That's the way to do it. On Feb 28, 12:29 pm, Minh wrote: > Thanks guys, figured i was just getting frustrated, this was like 4th > tire i mounted on Saturday :) > > i found a decent youtube video, no levers! > > http://www.youtube.com

[RBW] Re: Warning: non-scientific experiment under construction (650B vs 700C)

2011-02-28 Thread William
For what it's worth, I did the 35 mile commute to work today and now have a time logged in the spreadsheet. I expect this is one we will throw out as an outlier because I felt like garbage. It was on the 700C wheels, but I don't attribute my feeling lousy and riding slow to anything but me. If I

[RBW] Re: Warning: non-scientific experiment under construction (650B vs 700C)

2011-02-28 Thread Pondero
If there is minimal stop/start, and if the road is not glassy smooth, my money is on the Hetres. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: Dumb Tire Mounting Question

2011-02-28 Thread stevep33
Park Tools "Inspecting the Tire" section. LOL! That rail road spike would be easy to miss without a thorough inspection. On Feb 28, 3:04 pm, bfd wrote: > On Feb 28, 11:02 am, Minh wrote: > > A couple of suggestions. Go to Park Tool and review the procedure on > how to remove and install tubes a

Re: [RBW] Re: Warning: non-scientific experiment under construction (650B vs 700C)

2011-02-28 Thread Anne Paulson
Yes I do, and a Roadeo too. And I love them all. On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:17 AM, doug peterson wrote: > FWIW, list member Anne has a pair of Atlantises all to herself! -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gr

[RBW] Re: Tire Choice -- 99 Years Ago

2011-02-28 Thread Fai Mao
The bike does not have much clearnce at the top of the fork is one reason He couldn't get a bigger tire on that machine Second, it is a fixed gear bike and is probably made out of rather heavy plane guage tubing. Thus weight may have been a factor since bikes back then typically used steel ha

[RBW] Re: Every bike has a story.

2011-02-28 Thread Fai Mao
Two years ago we moved from Hong Kong Island to the New Territories. There is a bike path right beside my job that runs nearly to the new domicile and I decided that I would really like to begin commuting by bike again. I had a triathlon bike but it was unsuited to the needs of a commuter. I though

[RBW] Re: FS: Ibex El Fito wool Knickers - medium

2011-02-28 Thread CCX
I have a 33 waist and wear medium PI shorts- what would be you opinion on the fit? Jim I might go out and try some on a rei, but I was curious about the fit. On Feb 27, 11:57 pm, cyclotourist wrote: > Brand new with tags.  I wear a medium in everything else, but these are a > touch too tight.  

Re: [RBW] Re: Chilly Hilly?

2011-02-28 Thread Jason
+1 for getting on the first ferry and having relatively decent weather. Started a light rain about half way through my ride and I was across and ridden up to the CD before it really started raining. I didn't stop by pyramid for the beer though.. forgot about it (gasp!) in my rush to get home. I

[RBW] Re: Tire Choice -- 99 Years Ago

2011-02-28 Thread pb
Let's see what we can deduce from the entire photo. The road looks very smooth to me. It definitely isn't a goat path, and it isn't atrocious. Based on the photo, it's darn near smooth. There is an automobile immediately behind the cyclists, so the road can accommodate an automobile. Another v

Re: [RBW] Re: Dumb Tire Mounting Question

2011-02-28 Thread omnigrid
Yeah, it's a good idea to learn how to mount a tire/tube without a lever. Nothing wrong with using levers, of course. Rim tape selection also affects how much room is within the rim. I find Veloplugs and some ultra-lightweight strips provide just enough extra room so that removing/installing tires

Re: [RBW] Re: Dumb Tire Mounting Question

2011-02-28 Thread omnigrid
oh...and to Minh... just sounds like your pinching the tube or the tube is bunching up somewhere. I like to install tubes with a tiny bit of air so they have body or structure to prevent this. Easy way to add air is simply open the valve and blow a little. On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 3:04 PM, omnig

Re: [RBW] Re: Chilly Hilly?

2011-02-28 Thread Joan Oppel
Here's my East Coast perspective on the Chilly Hilly - i"m visiting family in Seattle (I live near DC). I rode Chilly Hilly with my son-in-law, but didn't mention to the list because I knew we were going to take a later ferry. We rode to the ferry from West Seattle and after getting caught be

Re: [RBW] Re: Chilly Hilly?

2011-02-28 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 18:13 -0600, Joan Oppel wrote: > > 2) I saw many many more steel bikes yesterday than I see in the DC > area, I mean, more in one day yesterday than I see in a month or two! > I saw an Atlantis and a Hillborne and spoke to both but they just said > hello and went on by. > I

[RBW] WTT: Roughy Toughy for Roly Poly or?

2011-02-28 Thread rperks
I have a set of Roughy Toughy tires with less than 300 miles on them, the rear barely shows wear and the front is even better. I am looking for something with a little more compliance and am willing to sacrifice on the armor. I would like to try a set of the rolly polies or GB or Challenge tires.

Re: [RBW] WTT: Roughy Toughy for Roly Poly or?

2011-02-28 Thread James Warren
Rob, Roly Poly's are great. They were my favorite until Jack Brown came along. I recommend them. -James -Original Message- >From: rperks >Sent: Feb 28, 2011 4:28 PM >To: RBW Owners Bunch >Subject: [RBW] WTT: Roughy Toughy for Roly Poly or? > >I have a set of Roughy Toughy tires with l

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Ibex El Fito wool Knickers - medium

2011-02-28 Thread cyclotourist
I'd try 'em on, or get a medium and a large and send back the one that doesn't fit. A 33 would be right on the edge IMHO... On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:47 AM, CCX wrote: > I have a 33 waist and wear medium PI shorts- what would be you opinion > on the fit? > > Jim > > I might go out and try some

[RBW] Re: FS: Supernova E3 Triple with Tail light

2011-02-28 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Thanks for everyones interest .. It's sold. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@g

[RBW] Re: FS: Ibex El Fito wool Knickers - medium

2011-02-28 Thread cyclotourist
Sold, thanks for the interest! On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:57 PM, cyclotourist wrote: > > Brand new with tags. I wear a medium in everything else, but these are a > touch too tight. I can get them on my 34 waist, but they are uncomfortably > tight when on, so they run a bit small > > > $90 shipp

[RBW] Re: FS: Supernova E3 Triple with Tail light

2011-02-28 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Thanks, BykMor, I now understand. I would ideally like a quick-release mount to place my B&M on the handlebar or on the front/side of a rack, and/or on the front of my Wald basket... Now I realize these should all require different mounts; but perhaps not. I'd love to see your quick release for y

[RBW] Tektro Cable Stop Hanger; What is the other piece?

2011-02-28 Thread Ray
I ordered two of these Cable Stop Hangers from Harris Cyclery. The package came without any paper work, save for a basic receipt. Each plastic bag contained the hanger as shown on the Harris site, but also another doo-dad that I'm don't know what it might be for. Can any of you who have used thes

[RBW] Re: Tektro Cable Stop Hanger; What is the other piece?

2011-02-28 Thread William
Optional reflector bracket. Just set it aside. On Feb 28, 8:15 pm, Ray wrote: > I ordered two of these Cable Stop Hangers from Harris Cyclery. The > package came without any paper work, save for a basic receipt.  Each > plastic bag contained the hanger as shown on the Harris site, but also > ano

Re: [RBW] Re: Tektro Cable Stop Hanger; What is the other piece?

2011-02-28 Thread Ray Shine
OK! Thanks, William. From: William To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Mon, February 28, 2011 8:25:38 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Tektro Cable Stop Hanger; What is the other piece? Optional reflector bracket. Just set it aside. On Feb 28, 8:15 pm, Ray wrote: > I ordered

[RBW] Re: Dumb Tire Mounting Question

2011-02-28 Thread Bill M.
I use a slightly different method than my namesake that I believe gives a little more forgiveness with a very tight tire. Start with one bead on and enough air in the tube to give it some shape. I (being right handed) start mounting the second bead just to the left of the valve, and go around the

Re: [RBW] Nice end of the ride surprise!

2011-02-28 Thread Tim McNamara
On Feb 28, 2011, at 10:42 PM, manueljohnacosta wrote: > Great looking day. Did a nice out and back to Coyote Hills. First time > riding with my linebacker friend. 310 pounds and a monster on the > flats. Weird thing that happen near the end of the ride my rear tire > explodes. Thinking it was jus

[RBW] Nice end of the ride surprise!

2011-02-28 Thread manueljohnacosta
Great looking day. Did a nice out and back to Coyote Hills. First time riding with my linebacker friend. 310 pounds and a monster on the flats. Weird thing that happen near the end of the ride my rear tire explodes. Thinking it was just a random flat I change it and find that the inside of one of t

Re: [RBW] Re: Dumb Tire Mounting Question

2011-02-28 Thread cyclotourist
Cool video, I like it! On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Minh wrote: > Thanks guys, figured i was just getting frustrated, this was like 4th > tire i mounted on Saturday :) > > i found a decent youtube video, no levers! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XUFVrl0UT4 > > -- > You received this me

[RBW] Re: Chilly Hilly?

2011-02-28 Thread Linkbeak
Sorry I missed the fun. Did get the car fixed. Let's try it again next year. Joyce On Feb 28, 4:13 pm, Joan Oppel wrote: > Here's my East Coast perspective on the Chilly Hilly - i"m  visiting family > in Seattle (I live near DC).  I rode Chilly Hilly with my son-in-law, but > didn't mention

[RBW] FS: Nigel Smythe Lil' Loafer

2011-02-28 Thread eliu01
Nigel Smythe Lil' Loafer - tan canvas version. Bought in 2007 but still looks/smells brand new - as close to 10/10 without being so since it's used. $100 Pictures available upon request. PayPal for payment, and buyer pays shipping from ZIP code 94116, method TBD. Or pickup in San Francisco, CA

[RBW] Re: Tektro Cable Stop Hanger; What is the other piece?

2011-02-28 Thread Benedikt
Another image right off the Riv site of what it could be - http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/slotted-rear-brake-hanger/15-167 On Feb 28, 11:26 pm, Benedikt wrote: > I would say it's a REAR seatpost cable hanger such as this > -http://www.flickr.com/photos/27988383@N06/4508651283/in/photostrea

[RBW] Re: Chilly Hilly?

2011-02-28 Thread Benedikt
Portland had a lot of steel frame builders and also at least one frame building school. On Feb 28, 4:23 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 18:13 -0600, Joan Oppel wrote: > > > 2) I saw many many more steel bikes yesterday than I see in the DC > > area, I mean, more in one day yest

[RBW] Re: Tektro Cable Stop Hanger; What is the other piece?

2011-02-28 Thread Benedikt
I would say it's a REAR seatpost cable hanger such as this - http://www.flickr.com/photos/27988383@N06/4508651283/in/photostream/ but it looks pretty fat. On Feb 28, 8:15 pm, Ray wrote: > I ordered two of these Cable Stop Hangers from Harris Cyclery. The > package came without any paper work, sav