It's very clear Joe. Don't worry about it.
René
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There have been several comments about "pressure" after I restated my
original comment, which leads me to believe my clarification did not hold.
To reiterate, Rivendell is the mellowest non-pressure phone experience you
will ever have with a bike maker/seller.
I was referring to my own *inter
+1 on John's assertion that the if there's ever pressure from Riv, it's more
likely to tell you what you don't need.
I like having a bunch of bikes with slightly different 'personalities', and
don't mind at all having bikes that overlap a lot in what they are good at.
When I was thinking abo
GREAT! The decision makes a lot of sense. Need pix!
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Jeff H wrote:
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> I spent quite a bit of time deciding between models, the original
> objective was a single bike to handle my varied style of riding, urban
> to exploration.
> Lots of research, looking at phot
I spent quite a bit of time deciding between models, the original
objective was a single bike to handle my varied style of riding, urban
to exploration.
Lots of research, looking at photos on the internet, 3 trips to RWBHQ,
reading the discussions on line etc. I narrowed it down to Atlantis,
Hillb
Do you have frequent flyer miles? This is a lovely time of year to visit
the San Francisco Bay Area! (not quite kidding!)
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If you really want to go, and have the time, you can make your trip to
Harris Cyclery car-free.
Take Amtrak from NYC to Boston' s South Station. You can take the Acela or
the Northeast Regional train.
Then take the commuter rail (Worcester line) from South Station to West
Newton station. Har
Boy do I wish I hadn't said THAT. Yes, I meant "internal pressure", and I'm
probably projecting my own Aspergers-related struggles with phone calls. I
shouldn't have mentioned it. Sorry.
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Here's another vote for "talk to the guys at Rivendell". There is zero
pressure, and they ask a lot of questions about you & your riding
Here's another vote for "talk to the guys at Rivendell". There is
zero pressure, and they ask a lot of questions about you & your
riding, etc., in order to get you onto the best bike for you. This
also makes you really think about what you want and what you're going
to do with the bike.
If anyth
Oh I have called Riv a few times just to pester them with a million
questions and never had anyone ask me to buy something or made me feel
like I was wasting thier time. They are all really awesome guys. The
issue is that in the NYC area it is hard to find anyone who owns a
Rivendell to give it a
Dear Joe,
I figure you mean internal pressure, not from us. In my 11 years here,
I've never heard anyone go even close to that on the phone or in
person. In fact, sort of the opposite!
Cheers,
John @ RBW HQ
On Oct 5, 3:26 pm, Joe Bernard wrote:
> That's good advice, Kelly, but if Peter is anyt
Hey Peter, folks have shared a lot of great insight and experience on
this thread. I'll just be redundant and say, call up the folks at Riv,
talk to them and trust them. I own two Rivs, a Quickbeam I picked up
used and a Hilsen I've had for 3 years. I used to have a Rambouillet
but just didn't need
Get the 54cm Hunk.it has thicker tubing and can fender the largest
tires. You'll have no problem getting the Albatross bar high enough on
that size frame, at your height, with those bars. If you are
traditional minded, want more of a road machine, get the Atlantis
especially if you don't mind r
I didn't mean to imply that Rivendell pressures..they most certainly do not. I
simply meant that talking directly on the phone is a step closer (in my mind)
to making a decision. But I hate talking on the phone, so that highly
subjective view may be mine alone.
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My statement was based on experience with Rivendell. From suggestions on build
to fit to final product. There has never been pressure to buy or make a
decision today.
I trust Rivendell more so than forum. Not to mention this as other forums is
all over the map on every subject from tire widt
My statement was based on experience with Rivendell. From suggestions on build
to fit to final product. There has never been pressure to buy or make a
decision today.
I trust Rivendell more so than forum. Not to mention this as other forums is
all over the map on every subject from tire widt
That's good advice, Kelly, but if Peter is anything like me, he'd rather get
some "outside" impressions on a forum before getting into a direct phone
call. There's a certain "pressure" that comes with taking that next step
which some of us find a little intimidating. Or maybe it's just me..
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It's all great discussion.. Call Rivendell for fit and talk about the bike and
needs with them. It works very well that way.
Just saying. :)
Kelly
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Yeah, I wouldn't be too concerned about headtube height on a Hunqapillar.
It's designed with Grant's newfound interest in steeply sloped-up toptubes.
The Atlantis has a more traditional design, with a tall headtube.
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On Wednesday, October 5, 2011 9:07:31 AM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:
All great advice guys, I was leaning towards the Hunq for a while
because it doese look beautiful but from the pics the headtube looks
really small on the 54 (the one I would fit on) so I was worried it
would be flexy in the cock
The last RR had a page with pictures and profiles of all the current
models.
Probably doesn't add any new information but it might be helpful to
look at.
Jay
On Oct 5, 6:40 am, René Sterental wrote:
> Forth utmost versatility, today I'd tell you to go for the Hinqapillar. You
> cannot go wrong w
All great advice guys, I was leaning towards the Hunq for a while
because it doese look beautiful but from the pics the headtube looks
really small on the 54 (the one I would fit on) so I was worried it
would be flexy in the cockpit area if I had too much stem exposed,
even if it is a nitto stem a
The Atlantis has those dreamy chainstays, too.
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I ride 35's (actual) when I will be on dirt
> roads most of the time and really like the combination of comfort, grip, and
> responsiveness. I don't think you necessarily need anything bigger than
> that, but there are times, like winter, when having the ability to put a big
> studded tire on
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> Recheck size though. My wife is 5' 10" and has a 61 Atlantis.. Rides great
> ..looks great...but then they all do.
>
> Kelly
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I think that these two models 'ride' similiar enough that you can make
the decision based on the details.
* Atlantis has nicer paint, fancier lugs
* Atlantis is US built (unless you need the larger size Hillborne)
* Atlantis will take a bigger tire (fendered or unfendered)
* side-pulls vs cantis
*
Peter, Getting a wider tired bike is never overkill! Like others have
said do consider the Hunqapillar. Personally, though I have a Bombadil
only. ... I would only consider a Hunq because the ability to ride higher
bars than the Atlantis, and the extra tube does add stiffness to the front
The max tire on the Hillborne with fenders, 38-40mm, would not satisfy
me on a gravel road. I would go Atlantis for that reason. But, I
like my big tires -- 26 x 1.75" minimum!
If you were going after the sidepull/centerpull Hillborne, that might
make the decision more difficult. But, I don't s
Peter, I live in a town in VT with virtually no paved roads so a lot of my
riding is on dirt roads and nearly all of them, at the least, begin and end
with a couple of miles of dirt roads. Tire size capacity is certainly a big
variable in choosing a frame. I ride 35's (actual) when I will be
dougP wrote: "I'm 5'11" with a PBH of 85 cm, and a seat height of 77 cm,
and ride a
58 cm Atlantis . . ."
Same for me, Peter. If you have the budget, I'd go Atlantis, just for
larger tire options/versatility -- and because you might regret it if you
don't get it when you have the chance. T
Recheck size though. My wife is 5' 10" and has a 61 Atlantis.. Rides great
..looks great...but then they all do.
Kelly
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Make it simple.
I'd say make the choice based on tires. What are the widest tires you are
likely to use? If it's 2" tires, go with an Atlantis or a Hunq. If it's 45 mm
you can go with any of them except maybe the Hunq.
Then consider purpose. If you're going to load up and go on tour, probab
Forth utmost versatility, today I'd tell you to go for the Hinqapillar. You
cannot go wrong with the Atlantis either, but for higher bars, greater loads
and do it all, I just love my Hunqapillar a tiny bit more than I love my
Atlantis... Especially with Bullmoose bars...
I'm 5'11" and ride a 61 At
Peter:
That's a pleasant problem to have: which Rivendell? I'll encourage
the Atlantis idea, since I have over 8 years & well over 30,000 miles
experience with mine.
I'm 5'11" with a PBH of 85 cm, and a seat height of 77 cm, and ride a
58 cm Atlantis with 10 cm stem. It's the most comfortable
Leslie makes some excellent points. You also may want to talk to
Grant/Mark/John, et al, about weight limits for each bike. I know the
Atlantis is built a little stouter than the Sam, but I doubt you exceed the
limits of either. Other than that and Leslie's advice about tire preference,
I say,
Okay, thinkin' a little more, scratch the Bombadil off your list if you're
wanting to stick w/ 700c wheels, as it'd be getting a bit tall. But for
your PBH, the others would work. I suppose, maybe the quote off the bottom
of the models page might summarize it:
"*All of our bikes ride the sam
A) Cyclofiend's site makes a great backup when looking for sizes, etc.:
http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis/index.html
B) The Hunq is a Riv, you'll be able to get the bars high w/ an Albatross,
too, I'd expect; no worries there, I don't think.
C) You can't go wrong w/ an Atlantis.
D) Eith
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