Oh I have called Riv a few times just to pester them with a million
questions and never had anyone ask me to buy something or made me feel
like I was wasting thier time. They are all really awesome guys.  The
issue is that in the NYC area it is hard to find anyone who owns a
Rivendell to give it a test ride let alone a dealer to get to up close
and personal. I know Harris has some models but again that is a bit of
a Trek (4 hours in the car) for me from Brooklyn and since I have been
blissfully car free since 2004 I would have to bum a ride from
somebody which I hate having to do. I just would hate buying something
and then deciding its just not for me but realize I have to pull the
trigger on something. I wish someone had a 52cm Sam for sale so I
could see if it was indeed too small, at 84ish PBH I fall right in
that middle ground of alot of riv bikes but have never had the chance
to actually ride one to see on what side of the divide I fall. I might
just wind up buying the 56cm Sam to see how it fits since it is the
cheapest option and sell it this summer to pick up the Atlantis.
Losing a couple hundred on the Sam will hurt less than losing over 500
on the Atlantis if I decide to sell. Again if anyone has a 52cm Sam to
sell I would pick that up too, doesnt matter what color/brakes/etc.

On Oct 6, 12:48 pm, John Bennett <johnat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Joe,
>
> I figure you mean internal pressure, not from us. In my 11 years here,
> I've never heard anyone go even close to that on the phone or in
> person. In fact, sort of the opposite!
>
> Cheers,
>
> John @ RBW HQ
>
> On Oct 5, 3:26 pm, Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > That's good advice, Kelly, but if Peter is anything like me, he'd rather get
> > some "outside" impressions on a forum before getting into a direct phone
> > call. There's a certain "pressure" that comes with taking that next step
> > which some of us find a little intimidating. Or maybe it's just me..- Hide 
> > quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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