dougP wrote:  "I'm 5'11" with a PBH of 85 cm, and a seat height of 77 cm, 
and ride a 
58 cm Atlantis . . ."  

Same for me, Peter.  If you have the budget, I'd go Atlantis, just for 
larger tire options/versatility -- and because you might regret it if you 
don't get it when you have the chance. The Hillborne (which I used to own in 
a 56) is a very fine frame, too, of course. If I ever was going to do lots 
and lots of rough-stuff riding verging on mountain-bikey-type stuff, I'd 
look at the Hunquapillar (sp?), but I think the Atlantis will be up for 
anything I'm really likely to do much.  -- Forrest (Iowa City)

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