There have been several comments about "pressure" after I restated my 
original comment, which leads me to believe my clarification did not hold. 
To reiterate, Rivendell is the mellowest non-pressure phone experience you 
will ever have with a bike maker/seller. 
 
I was referring to my own *internal pressure* with a direct phone call. I'm 
not good on the phone, and prefer forums and email for information. By the 
time I get to the phone, I'm a step closer to seriously considering dropping 
that credit card on the table. It didn't dawn on me "pressure" would be read 
as *from them.* Most certainly not. I hope that's clear.
 
Joe "let me be clear" Bernard
Fairfield, CA.

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