Here's another vote for "talk to the guys at Rivendell".  There is
zero pressure, and they ask a lot of questions about you & your
riding, etc., in order to get you onto the best bike for you.  This
also makes you really think about what you want and what you're going
to do with the bike.

If anything, Rivendell staff errs on the side of caution in giving
advice, and I can understand that.  Most of us have wandered into a
bike (or other retail) shop with only a vague idea of what we want,
and within 5 minutes someone is telling us "this is what you need".
It's refreshing to work with people who want to bring clarity to the
process.  And you get to deal with nice people too.

dougP


On Oct 6, 10:08 am, Peter M <uscpeter11...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh I have called Riv a few times just to pester them with a million
> questions and never had anyone ask me to buy something or made me feel
> like I was wasting thier time. They are all really awesome guys.  The
> issue is that in the NYC area it is hard to find anyone who owns a
> Rivendell to give it a test ride let alone a dealer to get to up close
> and personal. I know Harris has some models but again that is a bit of
> a Trek (4 hours in the car) for me from Brooklyn and since I have been
> blissfully car free since 2004 I would have to bum a ride from
> somebody which I hate having to do. I just would hate buying something
> and then deciding its just not for me but realize I have to pull the
> trigger on something. I wish someone had a 52cm Sam for sale so I
> could see if it was indeed too small, at 84ish PBH I fall right in
> that middle ground of alot of riv bikes but have never had the chance
> to actually ride one to see on what side of the divide I fall. I might
> just wind up buying the 56cm Sam to see how it fits since it is the
> cheapest option and sell it this summer to pick up the Atlantis.
> Losing a couple hundred on the Sam will hurt less than losing over 500
> on the Atlantis if I decide to sell. Again if anyone has a 52cm Sam to
> sell I would pick that up too, doesnt matter what color/brakes/etc.
>
> On Oct 6, 12:48 pm, John Bennett <johnat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Dear Joe,
>
> > I figure you mean internal pressure, not from us. In my 11 years here,
> > I've never heard anyone go even close to that on the phone or in
> > person. In fact, sort of the opposite!
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > John @ RBW HQ
>
> > On Oct 5, 3:26 pm, Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > That's good advice, Kelly, but if Peter is anything like me, he'd rather 
> > > get
> > > some "outside" impressions on a forum before getting into a direct phone
> > > call. There's a certain "pressure" that comes with taking that next step
> > > which some of us find a little intimidating. Or maybe it's just me..- 
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