That's the one. Thanks.
On Jan 28, 6:25 pm, Rambouilleting Utahn wrote:
> He was probably talking about Burpees.
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_Dq_NCzj8M
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> On Jan 28, 8:08 am, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
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> > I remember Grant writing about some kind of full body jumping jacks.
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He was probably talking about Burpees.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_Dq_NCzj8M
On Jan 28, 8:08 am, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
> I remember Grant writing about some kind of full body jumping jacks.
> Tried them for a while and wouldn't mind trying again.
> Anyone remember the name or link?
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> J
I've used: http://www.shovelglove.com/ -- must take it up again, tho'
I stuck with it longer than with anything else except pushups.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
> I remember Grant writing about some kind of full body jumping jacks.
> Tried them for a while and wouldn
I remember Grant writing about some kind of full body jumping jacks.
Tried them for a while and wouldn't mind trying again.
Anyone remember the name or link?
Jay
On Jan 28, 4:14 pm, Patrick in VT wrote:
> On Jan 27, 8:44 pm, charlie wrote:
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> > I guess that is the point I read the article was
On Jan 27, 8:44 pm, charlie wrote:
> I guess that is the point I read the article was making.doing damage
> rather than promoting health.
no doubt. common sense tells me that working any muscle, including
the heart, as much as the athletes in the study do could potentially
lead to some damag
On Jan 27, 2012, at 7:44 PM, charlie wrote:
> Being adapted to ever increasing efforts does make you more fit which doesn't
> apparently translate to increased healthin fact, it has killed some and
> caused many others who do that regularly to have heart problems.
I think you're right, that
Some of the ways our bodies adapt is that they get damaged.. by
too much 85% or more heart rate for sustained time periods. I guess
that is the point I read the article was making.doing damage
rather than promoting health. Being adapted to ever increasing efforts
does make you more fit whic
On Jan 27, 5:10 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote:
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> Maybe it depends on where you are.
i think it's the same everywhere. There's always "that guy/girl" who
takes things a little too seriously. turns people off. People are
people, and again - everybody has a different approach, motivation,
reason f
On Fri, 2012-01-27 at 13:44 -0800, Patrick in VT wrote:
> On Jan 27, 4:23 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote:
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> > Sound much like a race to you?
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> I've done brevets that seemed more like a race than a lot of amateur
> category races. It also seems to me that the majority of people who
> participate
On Jan 27, 4:23 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> Sound much like a race to you?
I've done brevets that seemed more like a race than a lot of amateur
category races. It also seems to me that the majority of people who
participate in "races" are just out to have fun too. It's all about
attitude. At
Whoops: they seem to be 2 different TGs ...? Doppelganger?
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 12:26 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> Tommy Godwin is still alive (born 1920), fit and alert, and yet he did this:
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> http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/531582/tommy-godwin-75-065-miles-in-a-year.html
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> That'
Tommy Godwin is still alive (born 1920), fit and alert, and yet he did this:
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/531582/tommy-godwin-75-065-miles-in-a-year.html
That's over 200 miles per day each day for a year!!!
And on a lugged steel bike, which must have doubled his work!!!
See him to
On Jan 26, 11:22 pm, charlie wrote:
> The genetically superior folks just go faster but I think we can do the
> same damage exercising at our 85% zone too.
There's an important distinction here - most folks can't or simply
don't want to exercise at 85% of the max heart rate for very long, if
at a
Even charity rides and organized centuries have a clock.
On Jan 27, 7:01 am, robert zeidler wrote:
> It has a clock.
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On Jan 25, 6:24 pm, Chris Lampe wrote:
> I recently got interested in Randonneuring as a very long-term riding
> goal and during my research I found a story a guy wrote about an event
> that included himself, Jan Heine and another guy. Jan ended the trip
> fine, the other guy had to be carried ho
The group I ride with is mostly north of 60 in age. Oddly enough
(given the gray hair or lack of of hair) we get asked "So what are you
guys training for?". Our now-stock anwer is "Life". Works every
time, and has the added advantage of being true.
To properly frame that, imagine a half dozen g
I don't have anything to add one way or the other to the discussion
but I would like to point out that 40 people is not a statistically
significant sample size. I understand the OP was using the link to
connect back to a topic previously discussed. I think it is important
to remember that just be
Can't really assess Mercola's claims concerning exercise physiology
since it's not my field, but I encourage y'all to take his articles
with a grain of salt. Mercola is well known in scientific circles as a
hack, marketer and opportunist who likes to play fast and loose with
the facts. Mercola's ra
I recently got interested in Randonneuring as a very long-term riding
goal and during my research I found a story a guy wrote about an event
that included himself, Jan Heine and another guy. Jan ended the trip
fine, the other guy had to be carried home and the author of the story
ended up in the h
I'm thinking the 'walking pace' level can be sustained for hours
(safely).the one that gets you in the fat burning zone. Higher
intensity efforts are for intervals. Shorter, higher intensity rides,
two hours or less are better for you (for health) in my opinion. The
two hour limit at higher int
Yes, I know: I meant to say that even at a far lower level of talent
and exertion, you can hurt yourself by overdoing it.
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Patrick in VT wrote:
> On Jan 26, 4:57 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
>> I'll add to this that even far-from-elite athletes can be hurt by
>> "over
On Jan 26, 4:57 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> I'll add to this that even far-from-elite athletes can be hurt by
> "overtraining".
"overtraining" as you describe it is very different than the training
described in the study. Proper training includes rest and recovery.
The average athlete who does st
On Jan 26, 12:39 pm, Lyle Bogart wrote:
> In the research I've been looking at, one of the points left unclear to me
> is how much is too much.
okay, so I read the abstract and related articles linked in the Peak
Fitness article regarding the La Gerche study. To put "extreme" into
context as we
I'll add to this that even far-from-elite athletes can be hurt by
"overtraining". When I was, 4 times a week, riding the 16 miles each
way between home and work, W-E across Albuquerque -- Central from
Unser (actually entered Central at Atrisco) to Juan Tabo -- with some
6 or 7 miles of climbing, in
Validates the wisdom of Satchel Paige, who said, among other things,
'Avoid running at all times!'
http://lawsoflife.co.uk/paiges-rules-for-living/
Andy
On Jan 25, 5:29 pm, Michael Hechmer wrote:
> A while back the Riv Reader published an article challenging the benefits
> of ultra endurance
And this just in! "Drunk to bed" (Enobarbus, of course -- what, you
don't know who he is???*) prolongs life.
Seriously, although I continually shout that the only valid reason for
cycling (beside transportation for the poor) is fun, I am only
gradually crow-barring away the compulsion to make ever
On Jan 26, 12:39 pm, Lyle Bogart wrote:
> In the research I've been looking at, one of the points left unclear to me
> is how much is too much. In certain of the studies, the subjects are elite
> road cyclist, ultra-runners, or elite nordic ski racers. In others, the
> subjects are referred to as
I agree. I love to ride my bike, and I like long rides. When I'm out
riding, sometimes someone asks whether I'm training for something.
"Training for something?" I say. "No. This is the thing, riding my
bike."
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Esteban wrote:
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> But one of the reasons I enjoy it
Heavens, no!
Go ahead and race.
If you're concerned about extreme efforts, do what I often do and
finish DFL.
When I do this I see the beautiful absurdity of it all and end my
evenings laughing out loud.
Works every time.
Beth
On Jan 25, 9:01 pm, Manuel Acosta
wrote:
> Awww.. So does that me I ca
I absolutely love riding randonees. Sure, it hurts, and sure negative
thoughts creep into one's head - but that what makes them adventures.
You meet your demons (at your own pace - within a generous time limit)
and defeat them. Its hard to explain - I'm certainly not doing a good
job at it.
But
On Jan 26, 10:42 am, robert zeidler wrote:
> Just a matter if time until we have extreme bowling.
Another good point. What is driving people to the "extreme,"
especially amateur athletes? Of course, it's all relative - but I
think for many amateur/recreational athletes, once the sense of
acc
On Jan 25, 9:06 pm, robert zeidler wrote:
> But it takes really sick
> efforts to make one, well, really sick.
that's a very good point. most folks will never approach the training
levels of elite athletes - their "training" is very different than
recreational athletes. most folks can't spend
Awww.. So does that me I can't start racing cyclocross now? I was
looking forward on hellish training rides, that make me want to throw
up...
On Jan 25, 5:29 pm, Michael Hechmer wrote:
> A while back the Riv Reader published an article challenging the benefits
> of ultra endurance events. With t
I saw headlines the last couple days that the risks of fried food were
overstated and eating chocolate prevents bowel cancer. Things are
looking up.
Ryan
On Jan 25, 5:29 pm, Michael Hechmer wrote:
> A while back the Riv Reader published an article challenging the benefits
> of ultra endurance e
On Jan 25, 6:06 pm, robert zeidler
I love Jan Heine, and am inspired by his travels. But
> if/when I ever ride across France, it ain't gonna be at night. If I climb
> the Tourmalet, it's gonna be in bright sunshine,
A friend teaches a basic cycling course, and one of his lessons is "If
you're not
Super neat and thanks, Michael. I love this stuff...as you've supposed.
I'll finish reading it tonite. Thank you, really, for sending..
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Michael Hechmer wrote:
> A while back the Riv Reader published an article challenging the benefits
> of ultra endurance events.
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