Re: [RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-06 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks a lot. Not sure I care for the water and mud (fat chance of that out here) but would dearly love some dirt that wasn't sandy. Jersey: It says Large Hardware -- never heard of them -- and the only result I get for "jerseys" as opposed to gloves, etc, is from Bike Pro -- which probably answer

[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-06 Thread Beth H
Patrick: Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/5116189588/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/5054677492/in/photostream (both from last year's cross season but I race cross and short-track on the same bike) Course for short-track is a multi-faceted affair incorporating

[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-06 Thread Rocky B
I've been riding my Quickbeam fixed for the past 2 months. I've been using Grip Kings with Power Grip "Fixie" Staps and have been very happy with this combo. I first tried the "regular" Power Grip straps but found the clamping bracket to be too cheap and flimsy - one my straps kept coming loose n

Re: [RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-06 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Photos of the race, please, if you have them, and details (including course type and gearing). Patrick "race my shadow" Moore in smoky, ABQ, NM where the Greer, AZ fire is polluting our air. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Beth H wrote: > FYI: Tonight is my first short-track mountain bike race.

[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-06 Thread Beth H
FYI: Tonight is my first short-track mountain bike race. I am racing a singlespeed bike. Pedal of choice is a Crank Bros. 5050XX (sealed bearings), every hole loaded with a traction pin. (That's ten pins per side.) No shin guards. (They're cumbersome, and any core sample I might take from my shin i

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2011-06-05 Thread MichaelH
on sidi's.   From > > my experience the wider platforms make a huge difference. > > > Now I ride nothing but platform pedals and tennis shoes .. cleats and > > special shoes are too much work. > > > Kelly > > > -Original Message- > > From: rbw-owners

[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-05 Thread charlie
I think its really about the engine..some folks are just naturally physically superior. Back to pedals and hot spots and all that.I definitely noticed an improvement when I tossed my SPD's and started riding a wide platform pedal with pins for traction. My foot pains went away. I really bel

Re: [RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Interesting discussion. I ride fixed a lot so don't want to give up retention entirely, but both my derailleur bikes have M324s with flats on one side for the opportunity to ride unrestrained. I know that even a few agressive riders I've talked with (eg, one man who leaves suspended, multi-geared p

[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-05 Thread charlie
I'm with there all the way and have had similar experiences after going un-attached. Once your contact points are dialed in for maximum comfort then its just a matter of ones physical limitations. I found that I could ride for longer periods without discomfort after switching my pedal/shoe combo co

Re: [RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-05 Thread Bruce Herbitter
I rode a hard 75 course yesterday in Keen sandals and MKS Sylvan (un attached) pedals) After getting up a long 16% climb 2d in our group, another rider asked me how I could do it without being clipped in. It's easy. I still pedal in a circle and use mainly the muscles on the back of my legs to clim

[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-04 Thread charlie
Like I said, your mileage may vary (YMMV)...what I am trying to point out is that perhaps our bodies are telling us when we are overdoing it when we have excessive pain or exercise related injury. I referred to Grants "dual athlete" concept because I agree with it as it relates to some of his

[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-04 Thread Brewster Fong
On Jun 4, 10:17 am, charlie wrote: > Its kind of odd how our bodies tell us when something isn't good for > us.lower gearing, more spinning, less mashing, shorter rides, more > stops, more walking as an alternative to grinding up hills, more > surface area for the feet to push against etc. I

[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-04 Thread charlie
t; > > -Original Message- > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Palincsar > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 1:38 PM > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Considering new pe

RE: [RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-04 Thread Kelly Sleeper
PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Considering new pedals On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 06:29 -0700, Peter Pesce wrote: > Michael- > > Re-reading your original post it seems you are not necessarily looking > to change away from a clipless pedal, only looking to cu

Re: [RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-02 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 06:29 -0700, Peter Pesce wrote: > Michael- > > Re-reading your original post it seems you are not necessarily looking > to change away from a clipless pedal, only looking to cure your > hot-spot problems? > In that case I might recommend the Shimano A520 pedal if you still >

RE: [RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-02 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
wners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: Considering new pedals Just a plug for the White Industries Pedals. While the Berthet pedals were good - the White Industries Pedals are "Stupendous". They have the design of the French - which Doug White acknowledges, but, wider. They are

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2011-06-02 Thread MichaelH
Wow, I'm blown away by all the input. thanks to everyone. I thought about the possibility that it might be the shoe instead of the pedal. I could see how that could happen but I have three shoes (keen, shimono, sidis) and two pedal styles (frog and xo1 roads) but the problem has become constant.

RE: [RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-02 Thread Bruce Gordon
ers-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cloud Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:11 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Considering new pedals """They say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and the White Industry Urban Platform pedals are an example. Their

[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-02 Thread Philip Williamson
I found the MKS G-9s to be too narrow, and my size 12s (I wear 13s in some shoes) felt like the were rolling off the side. Also, they were slippery in the wet. I upgraded them with skateboard grip tape (http://www.biketinker.com/ 2011/projects/griptape-on-platform-pedals/), and put them on my wife

[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-02 Thread Jeff, KC MO
My 2 cents here is the Tioga Spyders are close in shape to the Grip Kings but have the spikes already installed. I use them on my singlespeed. More preferable, for me, are BMX pedals with a nice wide footbed and plenty of grip. On Jun 1, 11:23 pm, Mike S wrote: > Grip King's all the way baby! S

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2011-06-02 Thread Beth H
I tried the MKS Touring pedal and found that the two thin sides caused little hot-spots of their own, even with thicker-soled BMX sneakers. After riding my upright city bike for ages with GR-9's and toeclips, I swapped in some MKS RMX pedals this week (my "dainty" size 9 ladies feet don't require G

[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-02 Thread Bill M.
Michael, Before you blame the pedals, what about your shoes? With proper sole support you really shouldn't have a hot spot. Perhaps a new pair of insoles or some orthotics would be worth a try? Bill On Jun 1, 12:48 pm, MichaelH wrote: > About a decade ago I discovered Speedplay Frog Pedals an

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2011-06-02 Thread Mojo
As Pete said, the A520 SPD provides broader foot support that I find more comfortable on longer rides. The step up from that pedal is the A600 http://tinyurl.com/3r7dsn9 though I can't tell the difference between the two when I am riding. I like the A530 on my touring/cargo bike. If I start to fee

[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-02 Thread Peter Pesce
Michael- Re-reading your original post it seems you are not necessarily looking to change away from a clipless pedal, only looking to cure your hot-spot problems? In that case I might recommend the Shimano A520 pedal if you still want clipless but need a wider support platform to get rid of hot

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2011-06-02 Thread newenglandbike
I have MKS touring pedals on all my bikes except one, which has Atomlab Trail Kings (old model with thicker platform). I want to try new thinner Trail kings but they are pricey, and MKS touring pedals already work so well that it's hard to justify it at this point. bias disclosure: i can't ride

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2011-06-01 Thread Mike S
Grip King's all the way baby! Size 13-14 here and I can't imagine a pedal more comfortable than this. A few cap screws on the edges solve the 'slippery when wet' problem. The dust caps are lame, but everything else about them is splendiforous. Tree Fort Bikes has them on sale for $38 + s/h (under t

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2011-06-01 Thread jamison brosseau
i pedaled in clips for ten years or so, but was always fixed riding. when i made the move to geared bike i decided to try the grip king, cause i wear a variety of shoes and they seamed appealing. the grip king didn't seem so grippy to me, and on a lark i bought a set of super cheap plastic bmx pla

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2011-06-01 Thread SISDDWG
I like the MKS touring pedal with deep toe clips, straps, and the MKS Spin-2 pedal flip. You really need the flip to make the entry easy. The entry/exit are very easy if you're wearing shoes with a fairly smooth sole. The G 9 is not as comfortable or secure unless you use toe clips and straps - the

[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-01 Thread Jim Cloud
I have a set of the classic "Marcel Berthet" Model 23 Lyotard pedals installed on my Paramount P-15. I obtained these pedals years ago while foraging in the parts bins at a prototypical Schwinn bicycle dealer/cum mower repair shop. Sheldon Brown preferred these pedals to any other until he switch

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2011-06-01 Thread charlie
I think you have to drill and tap the pins to them for the ultimate pedal. My own BMX style pedals Crank Bros. etc. seem to work fine with excellent traction and the wide contact area for low psi, no hot spot pedaling. I had the touring pedals for several hundreds of miles and love the retro look b

Re: [RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-01 Thread Ray Shine
I am in my 6th decade as well, and I have tried just about every pedal put there. I have found the MKS touring to be the best all-arounder for me. I've used the GripKings, but did not find them to be all that grippy. In fact, in wetness, they slipKings, not gripkings! Sent from my iPhone On Ju

Re: [RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-01 Thread Tim Whalen
I recently bought my second set of Shimano PD MX 30 flat pedals because i was tired of swapping them from bike to bike. One set is on my mountain bike that I ride on all kinds of terrain and the new set is on my Rambouillet. I've used them with my Quickbeam too though not fixed. I haven't done a

[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-01 Thread MichaelH
Thanks for sharing your experience Charlie. I tested out the Grip Kings over the weekend and plan to give them another try, but found the lack of contact disconcerting. At 66 I'm no longer too concerned about how fast I'm going, but there is a sense of blending man and machine that I get from toe

[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-01 Thread charlie
You've probably heard/read this before but you might want to just try riding un-attached. I gave up attached pedaling about seven years ago and once my leg muscles were retrained I found it liberating and I kept track of my times on familiar routes with no average time differences. In fact, some o

[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals

2011-06-01 Thread Peter Pesce
I tried the GR9's and they pretty nice if that's the style you like. I realized that I'm not fan of clips, so ended up going a different direction. Several, actually! I have an almost-new pair of GR-9s that I could sell you pretty cheap if you are interested. Also a set of VO Deep Half-clips wi

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2011-06-01 Thread Minh
maybe it's just me, but i find the GR9 platform as a little small, coming from speedplay's you might not feel this. ps. i ride in sidi touring shoes (yes the ones from RBW way back in the day), soccer shoes, or jack purcells On Jun 1, 3:55 pm, "Allingham II, Thomas J" wrote: > The White pedals a