Interesting discussion. I ride fixed a lot so don't want to give up
retention entirely, but both my derailleur bikes have M324s with flats
on one side for the opportunity to ride unrestrained. I know that even
a few agressive riders I've talked with (eg, one man who leaves
suspended, multi-geared peers in his wake up steep singltrack on a ss
rigid with flat pedals) don't seem to lose any speed with flat pedals
(my term for non-retaining pedals).

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 1:35 PM, charlie <charles_v...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I'm with there all the way and have had similar experiences after
> going un-attached. Once your contact points are dialed in for maximum
> comfort then its just a matter of ones physical limitations. I found
> that I could ride for longer periods without discomfort after
> switching my pedal/shoe combo coupled with a change in my mindset
> toward riding. These days I ride easier and definitely try to spin
> more in lower gears. I also try to keep my heart rate on the lower
> side avoiding the need to consume excessive carbs to replace all the
> "rocket fuel". The result is, I have more fun, avoid overdoing it and
> make better food choices when I'm not riding. I do however manage some
> all out sprinting here and there to keep the "fast twitchers" from
> completely atrophying.
>
> On Jun 5, 4:10 am, Bruce Herbitter <bruce.herbit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I rode a hard 75 course yesterday in Keen sandals and MKS Sylvan (un
>> attached) pedals) After getting up a long 16% climb 2d in our group, another
>> rider asked me how I could do it without being clipped in. It's easy. I
>> still pedal in a circle and use mainly the muscles on the back of my legs to
>> climb. I give up hip flexor lift, but gain zero hotspots, no knee or ankle
>> pain, and no falling over from forgetting to clip out. The MKS touring light
>> is a good pedal but as others have said, the Lambda/GripKing is better from
>> spreading the pressure out on a comfy ride. I toured several hundred miles
>> last week on mine (on a Saluki) and had no foot issues at any time, and lost
>> no average speed.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 12:55 AM, charlie <charles_v...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > Like I said, your mileage may vary (YMMV).......what I am trying to
>> > point out is that perhaps our bodies are telling us when we are
>> > overdoing it when we have excessive pain or exercise related injury. I
>> > referred to Grants "dual athlete"  concept because I agree with it as
>> > it relates to some of his other musings on exercise and good health
>> > (Grok style)
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