So date seems set.
*July 27-28 For the Rivendell Ramble Rumble (California Edition)*
Now lets agree on a place where we can meet.
Lets worry about route and places to sleep afterwords. If we can all agree
on a central place then those things will fall into place.
Not like any of those things ar
the inland routes are too hot for summer. The See Cyn route is close to the
ocean and would be fine. We would need to come up with another ride that
goes north and is along the coast during mid day and afternoon. Maybe
Stagecoach rd to Tv Tower rd to the coast and back thru Morro Bay.
~mike
O
I agree with Anne my thoughts exactly. I'll drive to the Sierra's
perhaps some carpooling can happen?
Mike, you obviously know this area and I don't know the area at all so
I'll need to map it a bit in the near future. Sort of preoccupied and
full in on next week's tour down the coast.
Hugh
Sunl
Yep. I don't bash anyone's bike materiel nor their clothing. I had a
carbon bike and I loved it and I rode with lycra and well I felt like
a dweeb also felt obligated to go fast.That got old quick. I got tired
of returning a super duper light $150 saddle cause the plastic shell
broke two times, tha
Better for fall/winter/early spring than for high summer.
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Mike Schiller wrote:
> food for thought
> http://pathlesspedaled.com/2013/01/california-dreaming-undiscovered-cycling-playground/
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To me, they only look weird because it's a new idea. Considering the
number of upright bar users, this is the same thing with the addition of
some forward extensions. I have Origin 8 spacebars on my MTB / utility
bike. While fine for most things, I do find myself wanting something more
forwa
Glad you're enjoying your new ride. One of the fun things about the
Atlantis is going to the gallery & seeing all the variations. Drop bars,
upright bars, racked 2 the max; naked; big tires, skinny tires; you name
it, people have done it. I'll wager the Atlantis has been configured in
more d
Some of my best riding buds ride CF. Some of them chuckle at my lugged
steel bike. The coffee shop doesn't care what we ride, and we talk about
travels, current events, books & movies. No one cares seriously what
material the other's bike is made from. It's just a bike.
dougP
On Friday, Ju
I think when they started the BOM thing they said they just lumped them in
with the staff bikes for simplicity.
dougP
On Friday, June 7, 2013 3:33:57 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> "Bike of the Month" and "staff bike" are not the same thing. Mark's San
> Marcos BOM is something he put toget
The Sierra option means either a drive or a hot slog across the valley.
OTH, once there, the altitude means cooler temps. Mike is correct about
the temps around Paso Robles / Templeton / Atascadero area being hot.
There is a serious range of hills east of SLO that makes that valley a lot
war
I agree the saddle has racy lines - I think it looks good, though the
material composition takes some getting used to.
On Thursday, June 6, 2013 9:13:12 PM UTC-5, Statrixbob wrote:
>
> I was chosen as one of the first 100 folks to receive a Brooks Cambium
> C-17 saddle. Mine just arrived today
Excellent news!! Thank you guys so much. It made sense in my mind. I'll dig
through my readers for grins. Not sure if I have em that far back but I bet
I'll read something entertaining I forgot.
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I've had a chance to take about a 10 mile ride today after work which
included a bit of climbing and, of course, some descents to go along with
the climbs.
The first couple of miles I have to admit I stopped more than started while
I tweaked the angle of the saddle. Okay, I had to stop three times
>
> One of the Rivendell readers has a picture spread showing how to do it
> this way. I think somewhere between Reader 0 -20
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Traditionally, bars were wrapped under the brake levers. You mount the
brake levers on the bare bars to get the location correct. Then you take
the levers off the clamps, and wrap the bars over the clamps. Attach the
brake levers again, and done. It's neat and clean, and doesn't have the
bunche
Hi All,
For sale is a 56 Sam Hillborne frame set. It's the single top tube "frame
special" they had on the site a month or two ago. I bought it directly from
Rivendell. It's in outstanding condition, only the drop outs and fork ends
show evidence of the build up. There is a very faint paint scr
I forgot to add, included is the headset, bottom bracket and the unused
seatpost, as suplied by Rivendell.
- Frank
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I actually think these look like pretty useful bars. I've made something
similar with flipped On One Marys with bar ends mounted at the forward
curves. Useful and comfortable.
I'm happy to see that bar makers are taking advantage of removable face
plate stems. These, Jones bars, H bars, etc... all
Those are officially weird bars. My buddy has Salsa woodchippers on his
tandem, and loves them. For his wife in the rear, he has Modolo dumbos -
and she gets her own mirror and bell, which I think she rings at him. But
the Cannondale tandem was actually for his very tall previous wife and,
>Ok, I guess I'm the one that's going to have to break the news. Brooks
leather saddles are one of the few perfect products in looks and function
in the world.
Not perfect for the cow missing its skin. (in any event, Berthoud are
hands down better leather saddles than current Brooks)
*>This
One more for Steve: I'm going to take a hacksaw and a file to the dropouts
and make them into horizontals.
Patrick Moore, desperately trying to get his tongue out from his cheek in
hot, dry ABQ, NM
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Eric Platt wrote:
> Patrick,
>
> Can't see how you'd get it to wo
Didn't like the look of them, but not sure they are really worse than most
trekking bars. Actually, they remind me of my old mountain bikes where I'd
install a set of Moots "road handles" near the stem. Similar concept
except Moods used a big wooden ball on the end.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On F
Patrick,
Can't see how you'd get it to work with the vertical dropouts. Might be
easier to get a builder to braze on a pair of semi-horizontal to make chain
tensioning easier. (Grin. sort of)
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:17 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
> Patrick, step away from
Patrick, step away from the Dremel tool.
We're your friends and are here to help you.
Cheers,
David
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Ron Mc wrote:
> Patrick, my buddy had a 1x-crankR click last weekend and he was ready to
> turn around until we saw he had a pedal leaking grease. It was click
Patrick, my buddy had a 1x-crankR click last weekend and he was ready to
turn around until we saw he had a pedal leaking grease. It was clicking at
the bottom. I'm friction-shifting 8 on my Moser and loving it, Later this
month I'm going to help my daughter set up a Shimano 9 using Microshift
I picked up some Newbaums tape recently with plans to try cloth...once
again. I've done this a few times in the past with different bars, but
never been happy with the result for two reasons. First off I found it too
thin for comfort, and on top of that could never get it wrapped well around
th
Hi All,
For sale is a 56 Sam Hillborne. It's the single top tube frame special
they had on the site a month or two ago. I bought it directly from
Rivendell. It's in outstanding condition, only the drop outs and fork ends
show evidence of the build up. There is a very faint paint scratch at the
If you add an aero bar (preferably pointed straight up) that will complete
the package. Oh, and wing mirrors.
Actually, it does look practical, but man, I am impressed and surprised by
the continual and ongoing attempt to make something better than the drop
bar in its many forms.
On Fri, Jun 7, 2
I will ask for these dates tonight and see if my better half will join me.
On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in
> Cal.
>
> Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get thing
Bump...
Still on the lookout for a 62cm Rambouillet!
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:13:57 PM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote:
>
> Will consider frame set or complete, any color. Please reply offline with
> condition and price. I also have a blue 60 cm for trade or will be for
> sale once I find a 62.
>
"Bike of the Month" and "staff bike" are not the same thing. Mark's San
Marcos BOM is something he put together to sell. His staff bikes are ones
he owns/rides.
Joe "I want that BOM, must sell more bikes first" Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
On Friday, June 7, 2013 2:26:59 PM UTC-7, Ginz wrote:
> I bel
yep it's embarraing
On Friday, June 7, 2013 4:08:56 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
>
>
> OT, And I REALLY do wish there was an editor for our replies so we can
> correct misspellings, instead of deleting and reposting !!!
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Gosh, innovation is good, sure, but those bars - like so much of VO's wares
- just don't hold any appeal for me.
- Andrew, Berkeley
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Great photo! If only it read "Rivendell" instead of Bridgestone!
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Brewster Fong wrote:
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> On Friday, June 7, 2013 6:00:58 AM UTC-7, meehan...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Being familiar with Grant P.'s feelings carbon bicycles, and this
>> group's strong preference for
I believe those are chef specials but, in the past, they have posted an
album of real staff bikes.
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Ys Steve !!!Ahahahahahaha !!! The Bull of Pamplona Put
some red bar tape on it to top it off !!!
On Friday, June 7, 2013 5:18:26 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
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>
> Put some pointy caps in those facing-forward extensions, it'll be great
> down at the Tidal Basin when th
>
> Congrats on your new bike!
>
Looks like fun riding.
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On Fri, 2013-06-07 at 14:14 -0700, Garth wrote:
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> Gee, it looks like they took the old TT bars of yore and welded some
> bar ends at an angle. You do the same with any swept back bar and
> mount some bar ends facing forward.
Put some pointy caps in those facing-forward extensions, it'll be gr
Are they really owned by them, or just the chef specials for the month?
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Gee, it looks like they took the old TT bars of yore and welded some bar
ends at an angle. You do the same with any swept back bar and mount some
bar ends facing forward.
These bars : Epic Fail ! Ahahahahaaha !!
On Friday, June 7, 2013 5:07:14 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> I know
They look interesting, but they can only be mounted on a pop top type stem,
which will limit their market I would think. I really wish Nitto made a
pop top stem, I have a cheapie on my MB2 and it makes life a lot easier.
And no Garth, I don't want to use some adaptor, used them in the past and
the
On Fri, 2013-06-07 at 14:06 -0700, Garth wrote:
>
> It's rubber and "special" cotton canvas Michael . I'm pretty darn
> sure they've tested it out so it's not going to stick odd stuff like
> that. This "testing" program is not really a test, it's more of a
> promo first . Seeing it's going to be
OT, And I REALLY do wish there was an editor for our replies so we can
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I know there are some serious fans of upright bars here. Saw today's VO
blog entry and thought you might be interested in this weird prototype
they're currently working on:
http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2013/06/new-handlebars-keeping-it-weird.html
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It's rubber and "special" cotton canvas Michael . I'm pretty darn sure
they've tested it out so it's not going to stick odd stuff like that. This
"testing" program is not really a test, it's more of a promo first .
Seeing it's going to be released in a matter of days , and people are just
ge
I'd buy a Europiccola patch, for sure.
I'm going to try to get to Thomas Cara tomorrow for the seals and all.
Riv-ish aesthetic, but no bikes:
http://blog.journeymanproject.net/2012/12/christopher-cara-espresso-machine-purveyor/
Pondero is my Caffeinated Wheelman hero, with his micro-tours.
>
> Thanks for the pics. I see the contours now.
>
So, the saddle looks like it is made out of metal, rubber, and plastic, and
whatever the cloth is on top?
Did it stick to your clothes like you thought it would?
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However, it's not the technological revolution these billboards want us to
believe. It's probably the right edge for a serious racer, but there are
people buying them who don't know better and would be better off on our
kind of bikes.
On Friday, June 7, 2013 3:39:28 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
I just came from a shop that heads all the hill country sports events.
They were assembling a new carbon bike for a guy standing there and
waiting. All great folks, and my favorite shop. They were servicing the
BB on the Team Fuji lugged steel frame I bought for my daughter to build on
summe
On Friday, June 7, 2013 6:00:58 AM UTC-7, meehan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Being familiar with Grant P.'s feelings carbon bicycles, and this
> group's strong preference for steel and in particular, lugged steel bikes;
> it seems a bit unrealistic to request that this group not engage in
> anti-
Hello folks, especially those in the Portland area!
I just posted a s24o trip to the Pedalpalooza calendar.
http://www.shift2bikes.org/cal/viewpp2013.php#24-3897
It's to Oxbow Park on the Sandy River on Monday June 24th. I'm limiting the
trip to 12 people for now but may open it up to more if in
I really like the idea/ sound of this ride. If you could post a post ride
report/ pics that would be swell! Thanks. -Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Shawn Granton
wrote:
> Just bumping this thread as the ride is this Sunday. Hope to see some of you
> fine folk there
I would say keep criticisms limited to the bikes and products, not to their
riders. We all know that CF guy and he isn't a bad dude, is he?
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 4:00 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> I don't think it's unreasonable at all to ask members *not* to bad mouth
> CF without evidence of it
I don't think it's unreasonable at all to ask members *not* to bad mouth CF
without evidence of its defects. This is simply asking listers to be
reasonable. Mere expression of bias against this, that, or the other
because one doesn't happen to like it is clearly irrational and it is a
great way to
When I started following rbw discussions four years ago it seems like
there were frequent debates about things like carbon vs steel that would go
on for days with literally hundreds of posts. I understand that for long
term members those debates were just a tedious rehash of stuff that they
h
I've been bugging my friend for the past week to go down there to try out
the 71cm. He's 6'5" and has yet to find a truly comfortable mtb, hybrid,
or road bike. He just called me gushing about the test ride saying things
like "surreal ride" "like riding a lazy boy recliner" . Think we'll hav
I like the idea of access by train or bike. People both from the Bay
Area and from the LA area can ride to SLO, but riding through the
Central Valley in July is not at all appealing.
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Mike Schiller
wrote:
> Hugh, The road from Shaver to Huntington has a lot more tr
Hugh, The road from Shaver to Huntington has a lot more traffic. The best
roads are up to Kaiser Pass and then to either Edison lake or Florence
lake. Even though it's only ~27 miles one way to each, there is a lot of
climbing and the downhills are slow due to the narrow winding roads.
I do
Phillip!!!
I have a Europiccola as well and have been working out some drawings of it
to use for a future button or maybe t-shirt!! I thought it would be cool to
do an entire series of buttons with different coffee making apparati. I
chose the the moka first only because I have a collection of
I got mine last night (and the MOKA pin, too). Thanks! I was happy for the
bonus artwork on the package, too. I'm about to refurbish my Europiccola
espresso machine, so I'll really be rolling as a caffeinated wheelman
again.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/8979216175/
Philip
www.
I have already placed another order to restock the patches. Might have them
next week.
On Friday, June 7, 2013 7:52:42 AM UTC-6, Ginz wrote:
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>
> Anxiously awaiting a restock of the patches. That -- or I drank too much
> coffee this morning.
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Just bumping this thread as the ride is this Sunday. Hope to see some of
you fine folk there. I managed to do a bunch of routing and riding this
week, and I guarantee an interesting ride.
Some additional things to note about this ride:
- There is quite a bit of unpaved action in various form
graphite fly rods on the bamboo fly rod board, etc.
On Friday, June 7, 2013 8:00:58 AM UTC-5, meehan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Being familiar with Grant P.'s feelings carbon bicycles, and this group's
> strong preference for steel and in particular, lugged steel bikes; it seems
> a bit unrealist
Hi,
Just put together my new used Homer. What a bike! It would be fun to meet
up with you guyshowever I will be walking from Lake Tahoe to Yosemite
at the end of July. I will keep my eyes open for socal riv riding events.
This group really inspires.
Take care
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:0
Stephen,
I just bought the small patch. Thanks.
Best,
Hugh
Sunland, Ca
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Stephen S wrote:
> Something like this?
>
> http://www.etsy.com/listing/153368661/doctor-who-circle-sew-on-patch?ref=v1_other_1
>
> or are you talking about the Tardis-y looking Moka button
July 27-28 works for me. Agree that the date is the primary decision &
location secondary.
dougP
On Friday, June 7, 2013 8:52:58 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> General Rule of thumb for most trips is that the designation can always be
> changed but the date needs to be set in place.
>
>
I'd be good with the Southern Sierra on Manny's date. Just wondering
though is it worth a 4 hour drive 8 hour RT for two days? Shall we
make it at least three? Or would that cause a drop off in
participation?
Mike since you know the area let's talk route. I imagine we would have
have a meet up spo
Something like this?
http://www.etsy.com/listing/153368661/doctor-who-circle-sew-on-patch?ref=v1_other_1
or are you talking about the Tardis-y looking Moka button as a patch?
On Friday, June 7, 2013 9:32:01 AM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Seth,
>
> If he made a patch with the Tardis I'd buy it! A
Ok, I guess I'm the one that's going to have to break the news. Brooks
leather saddles are one of the few perfect products in looks and function
in the world. *This *thing is *ugly.*
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
On Friday, June 7, 2013 8:50:22 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
>
> Oh man Brooks went t
Wow... I LIKE the look so far... I guess only time and prolonged usage will
tell how it stacks up to their leather saddles. Good luck... keep the pics
and reports coming.
On Thursday, June 6, 2013 10:13:12 PM UTC-4, Statrixbob wrote:
>
> I was chosen as one of the first 100 folks to receive a
Seth,
If he made a patch with the Tardis I'd buy it! And yes a bit.
Hugh
Sunland, Ca
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
> Is it just me or does the button look a bit like the Tardis?
>
> -sv
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Kevin Mulcahy wrote:
>>
>> I received my order
The TRP levers are angled outwards, making it much much easier to
brake. It can make a big difference on long descents.
Toshi
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General Rule of thumb for most trips is that the designation can always be
changed but the date needs to be set in place.
I propose the date for the California Ramble Rumble as July 27-28.
On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanig
Oh man Brooks went thru all that to make a wonderful new idea in a
saddle ... and they persist in using short rails ! Say it ain't so !!!
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Yeah, I was going to say, I was looking through James' Flickr pics. That
blue road bike he built looks tasty! And it's impressively light with a
minimum of crabon. Very nice work:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamespatrickvaliensi/4821788313/in/set-72157624567561712
On Thursday, June 6, 2013
SLO would be great, especially if it revolved Firestone Public House! I'm
probably unavailable for any extended trip, but late July or August
weekends miight work.
Cheers,
David
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:36 AM, allenmichael wrote:
> I would be interested in a few days either in SLO or the
I would be interested in a few days either in SLO or the Southern Sierras
with a slight preference for the mountains. What dates are we talking
about? I have a trip planned from July 5-9 but could get away for three or
so days any other weekend in July.
On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-
BTW, the patches arae significantly larger than I was expecting. Just good
stuff!
Cheers,
David
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Kevin Mulcahy wrote:
> I received my order yesterday. I immediately removed the branded logo
> patch on my waxed canvas motorcycle jacket and replaced it with the AC
Is it just me or does the button look a bit like the Tardis?
-sv
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Kevin Mulcahy wrote:
> I received my order yesterday. I immediately removed the branded logo
> patch on my waxed canvas motorcycle jacket and replaced it with the ACW
> patch. Much more relevant a
I received my order yesterday. I immediately removed the branded logo patch
on my waxed canvas motorcycle jacket and replaced it with the ACW patch.
Much more relevant and pleasing to the eye!
Kevin
In Chicago, IL
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Thanks for this review and pictures. Definitely plan to get one.
On Thursday, June 6, 2013 9:13:12 PM UTC-5, Statrixbob wrote:
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> I was chosen as one of the first 100 folks to receive a Brooks Cambium
> C-17 saddle. Mine just arrived today and while I haven't yet mounted it on
> a bike (prob
Being familiar with Grant P.'s feelings carbon bicycles, and this group's
strong preference for steel and in particular, lugged steel bikes; it seems
a bit unrealistic to request that this group not engage in anti-carbon
discussion. I would imagine it's akin to going to a group with a fondness
for
I'm more comfortable - even without gel diapers
On Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:42:20 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote:
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> On Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:17:24 AM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
>>
>> please oh please oh please let's not let this develop into an anti-
>>> carbon discussion. Lets just let everyon
it's certainly a departure, but a classy-looking saddle nontheless. Does
ride like it need break-in? Looking forward to a 200 or 300-mi report.
Thanks.
On Thursday, June 6, 2013 10:43:17 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>
> Thanks for those pics Bob.
>>
> I think they are trying to make it their wa
Great idea, Michael. I think 2-3 contrasting examples of packing up for an
S24O would be entertaining. It would be amusing to see what folks choose
to take, how they stuff their bags, and how gear is stowed on bikes. It
could be similar to the website "staff bikes" gallery that does a great j
On Thu, 2013-06-06 at 21:47 -0700, Joe Bunik wrote:
> FWIW... apparently one may (at least for the moment) append
> "?details=1" to the url of a flickr user's photostream view and
> restore a semblance of the old-style layout.
>
> E.g., http://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik?details=1
>
Marvelou
Thanks Joe .. that helps some with the Flickr current madness.
Do you know of any Greasemonkey or other scripts to revert to a small
thumbnailed general search , instead of these large ones that are slow as
molasses to load ? I
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