Re: [RBW] R12 complete

2011-12-29 Thread cyclotourist
R12 and 3Kkm as well, congratulations! On 12/29/11, René Sterental wrote: > Hats off to you!!!... Or should it be helmets off? Not meaning to start a > discussion... > > Impressive by any means. > > I really mean well when I say I envy you for accomplishing your goals; I > didn't achieve mine...

Re: [RBW] R12 complete

2011-12-29 Thread René Sterental
Hats off to you!!!... Or should it be helmets off? Not meaning to start a discussion... Impressive by any means. I really mean well when I say I envy you for accomplishing your goals; I didn't achieve mine... René On Thursday, December 29, 2011, Stephen S wrote: > Congrats. That's an epic acco

Re: [RBW] Nice post about Grant.

2011-12-29 Thread Mojo
Though I have been following Bridgestone-Rivendell since 1993, I didn't realize, or had forgotten that Grant designed the Nitto Noodle handlebar. I too look at my bikes and see Grant all over them: larger frames, higher handlebars, fatter tires, Brooks, Carradice/Baggins, Nitto, TA/Ritchey cra

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm

2011-12-29 Thread cyclotourist
Loosen up the QR on the rear wheel, slide it forward and use your finger/stick/hex-key to move the chain to the other ring. Repeat as necessary. The QB has extra long fork-ends on the back, which gives you a pretty good gear range (eight teeth I think?). On 12/29/11, Jay wrote: > > Pardon my ig

[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm

2011-12-29 Thread Joe Bernard
You stop, put the chain on the other ring (and rear cog, if you prefer), adjust the wheel in the horizontal dropouts, and ride on. I think Dos Enos means one side has two cogs so you don't have to flip the wheel around. Joe "I want it" Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message becaus

[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm

2011-12-29 Thread Jay
Pardon my ignorance, I rode an old mountain bike through the whole single speed era. I get the flip-flop in the rear, but how do you shift between chain rings? Too small for me anyway. Which is probably a good thing. Beautiful bike. Jay On Dec 29, 10:36 am, moshmosh wrote: > For sale, Rivendel

Re: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm

2011-12-29 Thread Andrew
That's sweet. And as an added plus, Orange is the fastest colour. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, sen

Re: [RBW] Growing my moustache (bars)

2011-12-29 Thread Andrew
Friction fit, with permanent loc-tite, was my first thought. That lets me hollow them out all the way through. Your suggestion of an expander butt-plug is good, and I have been tinkering with that, too. Would probably run a rubber donut against the end, with a washer and captive nut on the far side

[RBW] FS: 50cm Rivendell Rambouillet

2011-12-29 Thread Duy Tran
In great shape! Has nitto noodle handlebar shimano brakes along with silver tektro interrupter brakes. Has a sugino triple crank do not know the exact specs of it. And a 9 speed rear hub. Also has shimano bar end friction shifters. Only things not be included are pedals, seat post, and saddle. Ask

[RBW] Re: R12 complete

2011-12-29 Thread Stephen S
Congrats. That's an epic accomplishment to me! =) Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qFtNrUyjQUoJ. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: R12 complete

2011-12-29 Thread Joe Bernard
I'm into reading about it, and seeing pics. *Doing* it? Not so much.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/b6dXhNDsumkJ. To post to this

[RBW] R12 complete

2011-12-29 Thread William
I did a 200k permanent down in Southern California with my cousin Ed (you'll note the family resemblance). That rounded off my R12 award (at least one brevet of at least 200k every month for a continuous year). It was all on the Hilsen. That was one of my big goals for 2011. For 2012 I'm sh

Re: [RBW] Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread William
We had several different conversations about bike envy during the very pleasant day. They were all about how he envied my bike. "I thought I was done with steel bikes until today" "That handlebar bag is looking good right about now" "Those lights are really great, which hub is that?" "Those pu

Re: [RBW] Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread René Sterental
The dream of every CF roadie should be to have a buddy who rides a Rivendell and brings along the camera, food and other elements that enhance the ride, while they secretly envy the careless freedom that not worrying about weight and bringing along the stuff you want, provides. René On Thursday,

Re: Re: Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Here is fun chart to play with http://bikecalculator.com/veloUS.html Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/HDb2DyclhLoJ. To post

Re: Re: Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread William
Weight matters. It just matters less than some people think. I did a 200k permanent with my cousin on the 27th. He was on a 17lb bike, and I was on my Hilsen which is a svelte 24lbs with no handlebar bag but with a handlebar bag and two full bottles, it's got to be 35 lbs. I had to think th

Re: [RBW] Nice post about Grant.

2011-12-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Amen! I was thinking of Grant's influence on cycling and components and accessories now readily available -- as they were not, 20 years ago -- this afternoon as I rode home from several errands on my Fargo equipped with Silvers, Noodles, X2Ds, Camper, 46 outer, etc: he really has been a boon to cyc

Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Joe Bernard
*The usual comment you see on the forums is "triples are too complicated." Can't say I ever understood that.* ** I think some people find the centering/trimming activity betwen the small and middle rings troublesome. Most of these people are running indexed front brifters, which, in my one expe

Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 16:46 -0800, Joe Bernard wrote: > I think one thing that gets missed about folks who prefer Compact > Doubles is that it isn't just about a minimal weight savings: It's > looks. "Touring bikes have triples, racing bikes have doubles." This > matters to modern-carbon-racey peop

[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Joe Bernard
I think one thing that gets missed about folks who prefer Compact Doubles is that it isn't just about a minimal weight savings: It's looks. "Touring bikes have triples, racing bikes have doubles." This matters to modern-carbon-racey people. Plus, SRAM's Tapshift only works doubles. -- You rec

[RBW] Re: Rivendell: Our First Real Sale

2011-12-29 Thread John Bennett
Fixed! On Dec 29, 4:00 pm, John Bennett wrote: > Looks like some of the sale prices aren't showing in the cart. We are > working on it. If you have ordered, the price will be adjusted. > > Thanks! > > On Dec 29, 3:37 pm, John Bennett wrote: > > > > > > > > > We've got bills. We need to start 201

[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread dougP
"They almost certainly also told her a compact double gave her the identical low gear that she would have with a triple. And, for a very narrow set of assumptions, it does." I've heard this from more than one source & I too puzzle about it. Assuming the typical MCRB comes with a standard Shimano

[RBW] Nice post about Grant.

2011-12-29 Thread Mike
Check it out: http://janheine.wordpress.com/2011/12/28/people-who-have-inspired-us-grant-petersen/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from th

[RBW] Re: Rivendell: Our First Real Sale

2011-12-29 Thread John Bennett
Looks like some of the sale prices aren't showing in the cart. We are working on it. If you have ordered, the price will be adjusted. Thanks! On Dec 29, 3:37 pm, John Bennett wrote: > We've got bills. We need to start 2012 with fewer SKUs (part numbers). > We need to sell one or two of a thing,

[RBW] Rivendell: Our First Real Sale

2011-12-29 Thread John Bennett
We've got bills. We need to start 2012 with fewer SKUs (part numbers). We need to sell one or two of a thing, and not five. It will be good for us with your help. It should be good for you, too. Go here, and as they say, "Shop Early For Best Selection." http://www.rivbike.com/Rivendell-Sale-s/57

Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Joe Bernard
I've got the power, but the Citroen will get me with lightness. Until a big gust of wind on the pass between Vallejo and Fairfield... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.g

[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Liesl
Thanks, Anne, for kicking off such a spirited thread. Let loose a rant anytime! And I just gotta also say that I like reading about women in their 60's and 70's riding. I'm in my 50's and hope to be like Rosalind Carter riding her Glorius (or did I just make that up?) in her 80's. liesl -- Yo

[RBW] Another DiNotte Light Question

2011-12-29 Thread GeorgeS
Based on the comments last week concerning the DiNotte 300L tail light, I bought one as I was feeling distinctly under tail-lighted in the dark. Those little retro bullet-shaped things that Riv sells really don't create much of a warning. The 300L is very bright. A dumb question though: does th

Re: [RBW] Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread cyclotourist
Kris, I'd say the corollary to that is throwing a little bit of dirt into the ride. I can't imagine riding on a bike that I couldn't wander down a dirt track on. A ride just doesn't feel right if it doesn't include some dirt in it! I'm not saying a MCRB w/ 23s can't ride a road like this http://

Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Bertin753
Joe: I'll take uou any day in my Acadiane. (When I get the clutch fixed.) Patrick "30 hp requires a non-slip clutch" More Patrick Moore Typed with two thumbs on my iPhone On Dec 29, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 13:19 -0800, Joe Bernard wrote: >> Two quick po

Re: Re: Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Anne I thought a Roadeo was a weight weenie bike. :) Kelly I'll have to remember to duck after my wife reads this one. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d

Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Joe Bernard
*Unless you spend a lot of time robbing convenience stores or at the drag strip, just how often does the need arise to "get going NOW"?* ** Merging on freeways, getting away from lane-darting idiots on freeways, zipping past left-turners who can't see a bright red car anymore than they can see b

[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm

2011-12-29 Thread Joe Bernard
Ah crud, that's supposed to be private to the owner. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/LNuj9Hh_JxIJ. To post to this group, send e

[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm

2011-12-29 Thread Joe Bernard
Hi. Where is the Quickbeam located? I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/D

Re: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm

2011-12-29 Thread Joe Bernard
Oh my. My size, too. And orange! (Joe starts calculating if selling his XO-3 will offset the cost enough..) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners

Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 13:19 -0800, Joe Bernard wrote: > Two quick points: 1. Horsepower matters. My 260hp Chevy HHR SS is much > more fun and useful than my 140hp Civic was. Getting going NOW when > the need arises is worth the money. Unless you spend a lot of time robbing convenience stores or at

Re: Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 10:16 -0800, Anne Paulson wrote: > > And the other thing about these light bikes that annoys me is, OK, you > will ride faster up hills on a lighter bike, all other things being > equal. That is perfectly true, and in my club we do a lot of hills. > But... this is only a posi

Re: Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 11:50 -0600, Joan Oppel wrote: > She asked me why I could so easily go up the hills (well, I do ride a > LOT and usually on hilly terrain). I said, well, you might do better > with more gears. She replied, I know, I shouldn't have listened to > the guy in the bike shop who

[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Joe Bernard
Two quick points: 1. Horsepower matters. My 260hp Chevy HHR SS is much more fun and useful than my 140hp Civic was. Getting going NOW when the need arises is worth the money. 2. Delta brakes sure are pretty. ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

Re: Re: Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Joan Oppel
Yes, Anne - it is ridiculous that this 70 year old does not have a triple.  And I had to bite my tongue NOT to tell her to go get her bike outfitted with a triple.  It wasn't really the time/place for that - in the dark, looking at Christmas decorations, holiday spirit among the group.  That's one

[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Patrick in VT
On Dec 29, 2:11 am, Anne Paulson wrote: > > Yawn. As I said, I love riding with my club. But jeez, there's more to > bikes than how much they weigh. As someone who commutes daily, rides for fun almost daily and knows that lightweight isn't always the best choice, I agree 100%. But, as someone wh

[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread EastBayGuy
On Christmas Day, my Uncle, Cousin and myself decided to Ride Mount Tamalpais from Fairfax to my Aunts House in Larkspur. They Both had Full Suspension Marin Racing Mountain Bikes and I was on My Atlantis with Fenders and a Medium Saddlesack with a 6 pack of Sierra. :-). A few Mountain Bikers a

[RBW] Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread brian feltovich
Yep, I know the feeling well, and I'm relatively new to this game. I was lucky enough to discover Grant and Bridgestone early on and to find shops like Jim Thill's Hiawatha Cyclery along the way. Sadly, most cyclists don't actually know much about bikes. So picking up a bike and checking its w

Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Robert F. Harrison
When folks me ask me how much my Quickbeam (or my Friday for that matter) weighs I answer honestly, "I haven't the foggiest, but if I lost five pounds the whole package would be five pounds lighter." Then I go ride fifty or sixty miles, with tools, snacks, cameras, this and that. I'm slow but happy

[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Esteban
"I swear, when someone shows up at my club with a new bike, the first and only topic of discussion is weight." Whenever someone asks me "how much does it weigh" at a stoplight when I'm riding the Protovelo, I say 17 lbs. Its a good way to end that conversation. On long rides when I'm trying to k

Re: Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Allan in Portland
Maybe it's just me, and I mean no offense, but all this talk of older women climbing hills on over-geared bikes gives me the willies. I'd think the knees wouldn't remotely stand for that sort of abuse. -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Ow

[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread dougP
"I swear, when someone shows up at my club with a new bike, the first and only topic of discussion is weight." My guess is there isn't much else to discuss about a new racing bike! Basic design, materials & components are all so tightly spec'd that a customer has to know exactly what they want to

Re: [RBW] Growing my moustache (bars)

2011-12-29 Thread Rex Kerr
OK, one more post. :-) Here's how I made the expander... http://twowheels.us/bicycles/vrex_headlight.html On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Rex Kerr wrote: > Actually, I take that back... my expander was a bit different than that... > I remember now that I used some of those threaded table leg

Re: [RBW] Growing my moustache (bars)

2011-12-29 Thread Rex Kerr
Actually, I take that back... my expander was a bit different than that... I remember now that I used some of those threaded table leg inserts for allowing you to put adjustable feet on the bottom of table legs. They have sharp spikes that poked into the rubber plug to keep them from rotating whil

Re: [RBW] Growing my moustache (bars)

2011-12-29 Thread Rex Kerr
Are they merely friction fit? I don't see any expander mechanism. In the past I've created expanders by using a rubber plug with a hole through the center and a large washer on the other side. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Andrew wrote: > I miss the bar-ends on my Quickbeam, where I'm used

Re: Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Well, while I agree that weight obsession is silly (at least, I am largely over it now) and conventional racer gearing is also silly for most mortals, I would not discount weight and compact doubles altogether. I had a very nice 2X9 mountain bike that had a 20" low -- no reason compact doubles can'

Re: [RBW] Re: GAH! It was the ______?!?

2011-12-29 Thread Rex Kerr
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 3:13 PM, dougP wrote: > Rex: > > If you like 7 speed, Loose Screws is a good source. Stuff > comes'n'goes but they've had these 13-34 cassettes for a while now: > > > http://www.loosescrews.com/index.cgi?d=single&c=Cassette&sc=Complete%20Shimano&tc=7%20Speed&item_id=LS-89

Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I love hills, and I love carrying loads up hills -- a shopping load up a hill on the trike is great fun. Disclaimer: I am a short distance rider, 30 miles being a long ride -- call me a 1/10 Eric. But this means that I am quite happy pushing biggish gears uphill: 20 lb in the Hoss, standing in a 50

Re: [RBW] Re: GAH! It was the ______?!?

2011-12-29 Thread Rex Kerr
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Benedikt wrote: > Were all the other parts of your drive train new when you did the > build? As I understand your post the chain was new. What about the > cranks, cassette? I'm sure the answer was probably yes but was the > chain cut to the right length? > > A

Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Rex Kerr
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 7:19 AM, opa...@gmail.com wrote: > Thank you, thank you, thank you! Nearly everyday, a coworker, who rides a > carbon fiber bike, comes in my office, lifts up my Atlantis by the top tube > and exclaims: "My god that's heavy". I've run out of things to say to him > in rep

Re: Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Anne Paulson
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Joan Oppel wrote: > Recent interaction to add to the rant:  I joined a local club group for a > 'Christmas lights' ride a couple of weeks ago on a Sunday evening.  The > route involved part of hilly Arlington County (but not the truly devilish > hilly sections of t

Re: Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Joan Oppel
Recent interaction to add to the rant:  I joined a local club group for a 'Christmas lights' ride a couple of weeks ago on a Sunday evening.  The route involved part of hilly Arlington County (but not the truly devilish hilly sections of the county).  A friend of mine invited me, he wanted me to me

RE: [RBW] Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Kris Kenow
I do enjoy riding with others, but if you and your companions are not on the same wavelength it can suck. Let em ride 29 miles like (insert fast cyclist here), I'd go ride 120 miles like Jan or 60 miles like Grant. Some people know how to enjoy being in the saddle longer than others. > Date: W

[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Smitty-A-Go-Go
*"there's more to bikes than how much they weigh."* * * Yeah, like aerodynamics. :-) My bro-in-law is a wannabe racer type. Bicycles are one of the few things we have in common. But the reality is that we don't have that in common either. We always end up talking bikes at family gathering but it

RE: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm

2011-12-29 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
That is a beautiful bike, Mark. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of moshmosh Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:36 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm For sale, Rivendell Quic

[RBW] FS: Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm

2011-12-29 Thread moshmosh
For sale, Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm, frameset built in Japan. Great condition, no dings or dents in frame. Recently rebuilt with new chain, cables, housing and bottom bracket. Rustproofed with Boeshield. Build info: - Jitensha flat bars, Nitto Pearl stem (100mm), Brooks B17 Special (fancy copper ri

[RBW] Re: FS: new wool jersey; stuff from Jitensha Studio

2011-12-29 Thread bionnaki
hanger and reflector gone. jersey still available. On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 2:16 PM, bionnaki wrote: > for sale: > > Cima Coppi wool jersey: > http://cimacoppi.bigcartel.com/product/handmade-merino-wool-cima-coppi-team-jersey > brand-new. > size medium. > short sleeve. > originally priced $140 >

[RBW] Misc parts for sale

2011-12-29 Thread erik
Velo Orange front porteur rack new - $80 New, includes brake tab and bolts. Polished stainless steel. No holes in the dropout tabs so you drill it to fit your bike. Fits side pull, center pull or canti brakes, mounts to hole in fork crown/dropout. http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/

[RBW] Re: FS: new wool jersey; stuff from Jitensha Studio

2011-12-29 Thread bionnaki
reflector info: http://www.jitensha.com/eng/kimura_lights.html On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 2:16 PM, bionnaki wrote: > for sale: > > Cima Coppi wool jersey: > http://cimacoppi.bigcartel.com/product/handmade-merino-wool-cima-coppi-team-jersey > brand-new. > size medium. > short sleeve. > originally pr

[RBW] FS: new wool jersey; stuff from Jitensha Studio

2011-12-29 Thread bionnaki
for sale: Cima Coppi wool jersey: http://cimacoppi.bigcartel.com/product/handmade-merino-wool-cima-coppi-team-jersey brand-new. size medium. short sleeve. originally priced $140 $100 Kimura Billet Reflector for metal fenders 38mm excellent condition. from Jitensha Studio -- originally priced $60

[RBW] Re: Albatross bars on a Rambouillet?

2011-12-29 Thread Marc Irwin
A guy locally does. When I talked to him, that was one of the things he raved about. He thinks it's a great combination. Marc On Dec 28, 9:11 am, Jay LePree wrote: > I have been using my Rambouillet mostly as a commuter and for rides > less than 1 to 2 hours long.  I have been thinking about t

Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Ray Shine
Like most on this forum, I agree with all the comments, and applaud Anne for spot-on comments. That said, the undeniable fact remains that many more riders pass me on CF bikes then I pass on same. From: "opa...@gmail.com" To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.c

Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Bruce Herbitter
I think that Ann could unload the eels and she'd be way faster up the hills Like Ann, I have almost only good things to say about the local club folks that I often ride with. The great majority of them keep their gram obsession comments under wraps, and "wow that's a gorgeous bike" is about a

[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread davidfrench
Very refreshing ! we live in a business society where if you can't compare the size of your engine -cough- you need some marketing BS -weight for example but limited to- to show off with your new plastic bike. If they were applying this (reducing weight) to cars, maybe the american car industry won

[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Leslie
(Forgive me typing one-handed, a sleeping 3-wk-old grandaughter is in one arm); A) there are 3 other bicycle-folks at work in my office; they're 'cyclists', on CF bikes, worrying over grams whereas, I'm the one w/ a fendered steel Ram they can't figure why I'd want steel bike w/ fat

[RBW] WTT: 41cm Noodle and Soba for ???

2011-12-29 Thread Greg J
The noodle has been claimed. But the soba is still up for a trade. If you're like me, you must have a bunch of handlebars in your stash you're not using... Cinelli? 3ttt? A b115 or b105? I'm open to anything really... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google G

[RBW] Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Joe Bernard
If I can make my Hilsen a little lighter without sacrificing ride comfort and utility, I will. A lighter bike takes less effort to pedal over a hill than a heavier one, but focusing on a couple pounds difference between bicycles is madness. Speaking of "madness", you'll see plenty if you try pic

[RBW] Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Roadie club types tend to be the most unimaginitive of cyclists. Riding faster or "more efficiently" is the only goal, and lighter weight, to unimaginitive types, is the most obvious way to do that. In the social order of the group, one wins peer approval by conforming to this gospel. Any Riven

Re: [RBW] Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread René Sterental
The explanation I love the most, and that tends to shut people up as their brains start processing it is the one that I believe both Grant and Jan have expressed separately. The weight of a bike only amounts to about 4% (I think) of the total rider + equipment. You wouldn't talk about the performa

Re: [RBW] Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread robert zeidler
Go for it Mike. On Thursday, December 29, 2011, Beth H wrote: > Anne Paulson for President > > --Beth in PDX > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To

[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Beth H
Anne Paulson for President --Beth in PDX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@goo

Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Eric Norris
I've embraced "heavy" bikes, and they've become part of my cycling persona--my nickname on the bike is "Diesel," in part because Diesels tend to be heavy. I proudly declare to all who will listen that there is virtually nothing on any of my bikes that was chosen because it was light. --Eric cam

[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread opa...@gmail.com
Thank you, thank you, thank you! Nearly everyday, a coworker, who rides a carbon fiber bike, comes in my office, lifts up my Atlantis by the top tube and exclaims: "My god that's heavy". I've run out of things to say to him in reply so I may forward your post instead. As a side note, since I'

[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Mike
On Dec 28, 11:11 pm, Anne Paulson wrote: >can I just rant here, among > like-people, for just a minute? Yes you can and thank you. That was pretty funny. I gotta say, I read your post after checking on some things related to rebuilding my Cross Check as more of a light weight go fast road bike. M

[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Michael Hechmer
Anne, Anne, Anne, the world is full of delusional people. It takes a lot of focus just to avoid catching other people's delusions. Don't waste energy or sacrifice your joy reacting to them. We finally have some winter weather - about 8" of fresh snow & minus 10 temperatures - so I wont be ri

[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread newenglandbike
I can only imagine the bikes in question (so I'm just going on pure assumption here) but my theory is this: weight comes up so often because on certain modern plastic bikes, it is the only redeeming quality left to praise. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread robert zeidler
...and likewise some of the hand-wringing that occurs here on the list. It seems to border on neurosis at times (lol). RGZ On Thursday, December 29, 2011, Joe Bernard wrote: > I don't know how you ride a Rivendell with that particular group of folks, but I enjoyed this immensely. ;-) > > Joe "I

[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?

2011-12-29 Thread Joe Bernard
I don't know how you ride a Rivendell with that particular group of folks, but I enjoyed this immensely. ;-) Joe "I'm slow because I pedal that way" Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this dis