When folks me ask me how much my Quickbeam (or my Friday for that matter)
weighs I answer honestly, "I haven't the foggiest, but if I lost five
pounds the whole package would be five pounds lighter." Then I go ride
fifty or sixty miles, with tools, snacks, cameras, this and that. I'm slow
but happy, even on hills where I'm never the first up, but darn if I don't
fly down 'em. :-)

Aloha!

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Esteban <kemm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> "I swear, when someone shows up at my club with a new bike, the first
> and only topic of discussion is weight."
>
> Whenever someone asks me "how much does it weigh" at a stoplight when
> I'm riding the Protovelo, I say 17 lbs.  Its a good way to end that
> conversation.
>
> On long rides when I'm trying to keep a good pace, little things like
> weight matter - but not as much as comfort.  I actually think design
> has more to do with speed than anything else bike-related (rider makes
> the difference!).
> Esteban
> San Diego, Calif.
>
>
>
> On Dec 29, 10:44 am, dougP <dougpn...@cox.net> wrote:
> > "I swear, when someone shows up at my club with a new bike, the first
> > and only topic of discussion is weight."
> >
> > My guess is there isn't much else to discuss about a new racing bike!
> > Basic design, materials & components are all so tightly spec'd that a
> > customer has to know exactly what they want to get anything
> > different.  A friend recently bought a MCRB and insisted on changes.
> > She's an experienced rider & spec'd a triple, wide range cassette and
> > flat bars.  The shop built it up her way but it took some discussion.
> > She didn't buy the line about "it's so light you won't need lower
> > gears."  Funny thing is shop guys argue against "the complexity of a
> > triple" and in the next breadth are touting the wonders of the 10
> > speed.
> >
> > On the other hand, we can wax poetic about racks, bags, luggage,
> > lights, fenders, tires, etc., because We Have Choices!  Cantis or V-
> > brakes?  28mm or 50mm tires?  Nitto or Tubus?  Grant said something to
> > the effect that a frame is just a place to install parts.  So far, I
> > haven't stopped fiddling with my Atlantis.
> >
> > dougP
> >
> > On Dec 28, 11:11 pm, Anne Paulson <anne.paul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I love riding with my bike club, really I do, and they're wonderful
> > > people and great riding companions, but can I just rant here, among
> > > like-people, for just a minute?
> >
> > > I swear, when someone shows up at my club with a new bike, the first
> > > and only topic of discussion is weight.
> >
> > > WEIGHT IS NOT THE ONLY CRITERION WHEN PICKING BIKE FRAMES AND BIKE
> PARTS.
> >
> > > Thank you. I'll lower my voice now. I was very good today on my clubs
> > > bike ride, 29 miles, 3900 feet of elevation, lots of sections in the
> > > high teens in grade. I kept my mouth shut, mostly, did not swear, and
> > > did not mention that I thought my companions' bikes were ridiculously
> > > overgeared for what they were trying to do with them. I did not say...
> >
> > > ...No, a compact double is not significantly lighter than a triple,
> > > and if you can't climb that hill without weaving back and forth and
> > > getting in my way, not to mention dangerously cutting across the
> > > center line, you should put a triple on your bike.
> >
> > > ...You can't notice a two pound difference in weight. You can't,
> > > unless you can tell me with a straight face that you climb
> > > significantly faster when your water bottles are empty.
> >
> > > ...If you weigh 98 pounds, stiffness and compliance in a bike are
> > > irrelevant for you. Also, if you weigh 98 pounds, you're not climbing
> > > faster than me (when you do) because your *bike* is lighter than my
> > > *bike*.  I could ride a weightless bike, and I'd still weigh more than
> > > you and your bike put together.
> >
> > > Yawn. As I said, I love riding with my club. But jeez, there's more to
> > > bikes than how much they weigh.
> >
> > > --
> > > -- Anne Paulson
> >
> > > My hovercraft is full of eels
>
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