"I swear, when someone shows up at my club with a new bike, the first
and only topic of discussion is weight."

Whenever someone asks me "how much does it weigh" at a stoplight when
I'm riding the Protovelo, I say 17 lbs.  Its a good way to end that
conversation.

On long rides when I'm trying to keep a good pace, little things like
weight matter - but not as much as comfort.  I actually think design
has more to do with speed than anything else bike-related (rider makes
the difference!).
Esteban
San Diego, Calif.



On Dec 29, 10:44 am, dougP <dougpn...@cox.net> wrote:
> "I swear, when someone shows up at my club with a new bike, the first
> and only topic of discussion is weight."
>
> My guess is there isn't much else to discuss about a new racing bike!
> Basic design, materials & components are all so tightly spec'd that a
> customer has to know exactly what they want to get anything
> different.  A friend recently bought a MCRB and insisted on changes.
> She's an experienced rider & spec'd a triple, wide range cassette and
> flat bars.  The shop built it up her way but it took some discussion.
> She didn't buy the line about "it's so light you won't need lower
> gears."  Funny thing is shop guys argue against "the complexity of a
> triple" and in the next breadth are touting the wonders of the 10
> speed.
>
> On the other hand, we can wax poetic about racks, bags, luggage,
> lights, fenders, tires, etc., because We Have Choices!  Cantis or V-
> brakes?  28mm or 50mm tires?  Nitto or Tubus?  Grant said something to
> the effect that a frame is just a place to install parts.  So far, I
> haven't stopped fiddling with my Atlantis.
>
> dougP
>
> On Dec 28, 11:11 pm, Anne Paulson <anne.paul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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>
>
>
> > I love riding with my bike club, really I do, and they're wonderful
> > people and great riding companions, but can I just rant here, among
> > like-people, for just a minute?
>
> > I swear, when someone shows up at my club with a new bike, the first
> > and only topic of discussion is weight.
>
> > WEIGHT IS NOT THE ONLY CRITERION WHEN PICKING BIKE FRAMES AND BIKE PARTS.
>
> > Thank you. I'll lower my voice now. I was very good today on my clubs
> > bike ride, 29 miles, 3900 feet of elevation, lots of sections in the
> > high teens in grade. I kept my mouth shut, mostly, did not swear, and
> > did not mention that I thought my companions' bikes were ridiculously
> > overgeared for what they were trying to do with them. I did not say...
>
> > ...No, a compact double is not significantly lighter than a triple,
> > and if you can't climb that hill without weaving back and forth and
> > getting in my way, not to mention dangerously cutting across the
> > center line, you should put a triple on your bike.
>
> > ...You can't notice a two pound difference in weight. You can't,
> > unless you can tell me with a straight face that you climb
> > significantly faster when your water bottles are empty.
>
> > ...If you weigh 98 pounds, stiffness and compliance in a bike are
> > irrelevant for you. Also, if you weigh 98 pounds, you're not climbing
> > faster than me (when you do) because your *bike* is lighter than my
> > *bike*.  I could ride a weightless bike, and I'd still weigh more than
> > you and your bike put together.
>
> > Yawn. As I said, I love riding with my club. But jeez, there's more to
> > bikes than how much they weigh.
>
> > --
> > -- Anne Paulson
>
> > My hovercraft is full of eels

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