[RBW] Re: Cork, Tape, and Shellac

2010-05-19 Thread Philip Williamson
I've only talked to Josh Muir of Frances for a few minutes a couple of times, but I really respect him, and his bikes hit the spot. This may strike other people differently than it does me, but I love that his bikes have had the only Nashbar brakes I've ever seen at a bike show. They also looked,

Re: [RBW] Like Riding a Bicycle

2010-05-19 Thread Rene Sterental
The photography is magnificent! The bikes are steel... The images are made with silver... No reprimand for you! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To uns

[RBW] Like Riding a Bicycle

2010-05-19 Thread Aaron Thomas
At the risk of earning an off-topic reprimand, this photo spread on the bicycle for National Bike to Work Week could be of general interest to the list: http://todayspictures.slate.com/20100518 Many of the photos are really nice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Go

Re: [RBW] WAS: brake questions NOW: OT Silliness

2010-05-19 Thread cyclotourist
FWIW, Dave Zabriskie is leading the ATOC. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Jon Grant wrote: > From: Gino Zahnd wrote: > > Buy new brake pads, and you get new nuts. > > === > > Boy howdy, I wish it were that easy. > > -- > Jon ³Feeling every bit of 51 years old today² Grant, in > Austin, Texa

[RBW] Bleriot 55 w/Saluki Fork

2010-05-19 Thread Tom
Last week I had posted information about a 55cm Bleriot frame, Saluki Fork, Rivendell wheels and a Nitto stem that I am offering for sale. I had several requests for pictures, but I had no digital pictures to send, so I removed the post until pictures were available. Well, the bike pictures are no

[RBW] WAS: brake questions NOW: OT Silliness

2010-05-19 Thread Jon Grant
From: Gino Zahnd wrote: Buy new brake pads, and you get new nuts. === Boy howdy, I wish it were that easy. -- Jon ³Feeling every bit of 51 years old today² Grant, in Austin, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: the "fire trails" of the upper midwest

2010-05-19 Thread Joe Bunik
On 5/15/10, cyclotourist wrote: > BTW, here's a cool gravel-road race promo for the mid-west: > http://vimeo.com/11700688 > > Nicely put together video (if not a touch silly). The American Gravel Road Cycling Institute videos are nice (f not a touch silly), as well...: http://www.youtube.com/user

[RBW] Re: Cork, Tape, and Shellac

2010-05-19 Thread Michael_S
Yes I agree, my first custom (now sold) was a learning experience. Got everything right but rear seat stay length. My 2nd is in the garage being built. I really like the Diffusible Tourist Joshua built. I would like to get one maybe this fall. Here is a pic from his Flickr site http://www.flic

[RBW] Re: the "fire trails" of the upper midwest

2010-05-19 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I didn't mean to start a discussion of the semantics of unpaved rural road terminology, but I did learn a few things about the western fire roads. So thanks. The Almanzo race included just about every type of bike. I rode to the event with a guy on a Long Haul Trucker and another guy on a full- su

[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Bullmoose Bar

2010-05-19 Thread Johnny Alien
Thought I had a few leads but nothing yet so I am still looking. If anyone is interested here is a photo of the new larger size Bullmoose bars that Rivendell currently has. Apparently while it has a 200mm reach vs the current 150mm because of the geometry the difference is not that great. I unfo

[RBW] Re: Cork, Tape, and Shellac

2010-05-19 Thread Blindrobert
Of all my custom bikes, it's my favorite! And it get's the most comment/stares of any bike I own except, perhaps my cargo bike, which is like being in a parade every time I ride it. http://www.bikecult.com/works/archive/09bicycles/bolognacargoRC2.html The interaction with Josh (at Frances) is ve

[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell/Nitto "Big Back Rack" $140

2010-05-19 Thread Blindrobert
SOLD On May 19, 6:56 am, Blindrobert wrote: > Used for two tours, plating is completely intact, no dents or bends, > comes with the adjusting hardware.  $140 delivered in the lower 48.  I > take good care of my stuff and this rack is in fantastic condition. > > -- > You received this message beca

Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-19 Thread Rob Harrison
I'll be darned. That's clever. I haven't owned a bike with centerpull brakes in the modern era. (Obviously.) Last centerpulls I had were Weinmanns, in 1977. :) Thanks Gino! Rob in Seattle On May 19, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Gino Zahnd wrote: Buy new brake pads, and you get new nuts. Those aren'

Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-19 Thread Gino Zahnd
Buy new brake pads, and you get new nuts. Those aren't a PAUL part, just part of the brake pad. http://www.koolstop.com/brakes/index.php On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Rob Harrison wrote: > Speaking of Paul's centerpulls, my new-to-me Saluki has the polished > versions. Haven't ridden it yet

[RBW] Re: Cork, Tape, and Shellac

2010-05-19 Thread Michael_S
just saw this post. I have been looking at the Frances Tourist Diffusible model. The one bike I would like to have is a travel bike and the Ritchey Break away system seems very innocuous compared to the more obvious S&S couplers. Are you pleased with the workmanship? did the builder meet your expe

Re: [RBW] WTB: Legolas - 58 or so

2010-05-19 Thread John Speare
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:04 AM, rinjin wrote: > > I know these are rare as hen's teeth, but thought I'd give it a shot. > Anyone out there tired of looking at their Legolas or thinking of > moving to another frame? > > Thanks! > Just curious -- does/will Rivendell still make this bike? I know t

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?

2010-05-19 Thread Patrick in VT
On May 19, 4:13 pm, Michael_S wrote: > yes, if you use Hubbub routing. Here is the link to Shimergo. I have > not tried it. http://www.ctc.org.uk/desktopdefault.aspx?tabid=3946 neat. thanks for that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bu

[RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison

2010-05-19 Thread Michael_S
though I'm late to the party...here is my input ... I would pick the Atlantis hands down over the Bombadill. I just like the flatter top tube and classic lines. Without disc brakes on the Bomba, I think is not as usable off road as the construction and design intent would dictate. To me it's just a

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?

2010-05-19 Thread Michael_S
yes, if you use Hubbub routing. Here is the link to Shimergo. I have not tried it. http://www.ctc.org.uk/desktopdefault.aspx?tabid=3946 ~Mike~ On May 19, 1:05 pm, Patrick in VT wrote: > On May 19, 3:16 pm, Michael_S wrote: > > > For Campy Ergo there are two options ( well maybe 3) > > > 1. 10

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?

2010-05-19 Thread Patrick in VT
On May 19, 3:16 pm, Michael_S wrote: > For Campy Ergo there are two options ( well maybe 3) > > 1. 10 speed Ergo shifters pull the same cable as the spacing on 8 > speed ShimaNo Cassette and Rear deral. do you know if one can do 9 spd with the "alternate" shimano rech mech cable routing? --

[RBW] Black 650b Synergy rims

2010-05-19 Thread RonLau
To all, While Rich and I are having coffee this morning, he mentioned he has 5 black 650b rim from Velocity. 3 of them are rear O/C and 2 are regular rims. In case you want some black rims for you bike, now is the time. Contact Rich at Rivendell for more details. Disclaimer: Rich is a friend o

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?

2010-05-19 Thread Michael_S
For Campy Ergo there are two options ( well maybe 3) 1. 10 speed Ergo shifters pull the same cable as the spacing on 8 speed ShimaNo Cassette and Rear deral. Works great ..I have this on my Tandem. 2. 10 speed Ergo shifters with a DaVinci modified SRAM Mountain X9 rear derailleur and a shimano 9

[RBW] Re: Buncher Sighting

2010-05-19 Thread Brad Gantt
Rivendellians? My fleeting glimpse gave me two false impressions: 1. It didn't look like he was wearing a helmet. He was. 2. I thought the bike was a custom. It was a Romulus. So much for my eyewitness testimony. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?

2010-05-19 Thread Rene Sterental
SRAM's 9 speed cassettes and rear derailleurs are not compatible with SRAM's 10 speed cassettes and rear derailleurs as far as I know. It has to do with the amount of cable pull and the separation between the rear cogs. I doubt it's just a matter of adjusting the limit screws since the 9 and 10 spe

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?

2010-05-19 Thread Patrick in VT
On May 19, 1:34 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > I don't think you can, as the cable pull will be incompatible. However, you > can use a friction barend shifter with the double compact, which is how I > ran my AHH for a short time. Sram double compact front and Shimano 9 speed > rear with Shimano baren

Re: [RBW] Re: Buncher Sighting

2010-05-19 Thread Rene Sterental
Rivendellers Rivians RBwers Rivbees LOL!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@g

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison

2010-05-19 Thread CycloFiend
on 5/19/10 9:30 AM, William at tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: > Jim > > I think some of the compounding confusion comes from the Riv site. > There, they claim a 100mm dirt drop stem has an effective horizontal > extension of 82mm. I think that should simply read 'extension' with > 'horizontal' remov

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?

2010-05-19 Thread Rene Sterental
I don't think you can, as the cable pull will be incompatible. However, you can use a friction barend shifter with the double compact, which is how I ran my AHH for a short time. Sram double compact front and Shimano 9 speed rear with Shimano barend shifters. I don't recall if Sram's barend shifter

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?

2010-05-19 Thread Rene Sterental
I used SRAM Rival and Red on my pre-Rivendell days. In fact, when I first built my AHH I just used the Rival group I removed from the Gunnar frame I sold and bought the SRAM bar-end shifters. Compact front 172.5mm cranks (2nd generation) and 12-28 rear cassette. I loved it, but at 275 lbs, getting

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?

2010-05-19 Thread Patrick in VT
On May 19, 12:26 pm, Joe Bartoe wrote: >The cassette spacing is identical and is the same as Shimano's 10 speed >spacing. >You can mix and match SRAM 10 speed derailleurs and shifters, but >you can't mix >them with Shimano. anyone know if you can use a doubletap shifter with a 9 speed cassette

Re: [RBW] Re: shopsack with drops

2010-05-19 Thread Rene Sterental
I concur. I use 48mm Noodles with brifters and have both the Medium and the Large versions. With the Large, I get a similar experience. It might be a minor hassle but not worth being concerned with. Obviously I have no issues whatsoever with the Medium. In terms of handling and overall feeling, I

[RBW] WTB: Legolas - 58 or so

2010-05-19 Thread rinjin
I know these are rare as hen's teeth, but thought I'd give it a shot. Anyone out there tired of looking at their Legolas or thinking of moving to another frame? Thanks! Brian Park City, UT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?

2010-05-19 Thread Rob Harrison
20 years ago (at 35) I weighed 155-160. At 200 lbs now, it's kinda like loaded touring even with nothin' on the bike. :) My gearing has changed accordingly. Getting back to riding, hope that will reverse. Rob in Seattle On May 19, 2010, at 9:20 AM, Aaron Thomas wrote: For comparison, I

Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-19 Thread Rob Harrison
Speaking of Paul's centerpulls, my new-to-me Saluki has the polished versions. Haven't ridden it yet, still setting it up, but I noticed this morning the chrome on all of the brake pad fixing post nuts--the 5mm hex domed ones--is flaking off and rusting. Anyone know if those available in st

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?

2010-05-19 Thread reynoldslugs
Aaron: thanks for the response, I appreciate the feedback on the shifters. The gearing is a bit overkill, true. But it's appropriate for a Clyde (the cycling community often underestimates the contribution of old shotputters in the peloton). My frequent rides include Death Ride routes, Levi's Gr

[RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison

2010-05-19 Thread William
Jim I think some of the compounding confusion comes from the Riv site. There, they claim a 100mm dirt drop stem has an effective horizontal extension of 82mm. I think that should simply read 'extension' with 'horizontal' removed. That's what my 100mm dirt drop stem measures to, and only then do

RE: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?

2010-05-19 Thread Joe Bartoe
The Apex and the other SRAM road groups should be compatible with the XX group. The cable pull ratio is the same for the rear derailleurs. The cassette spacing is identical and is the same as Shimano's 10 speed spacing. You can mix and match SRAM 10 speed derailleurs and shifters, but you can't

Re: [RBW] Re: Buncher Sighting

2010-05-19 Thread CycloFiend
on 5/19/10 12:44 AM, Philip Williamson at philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: > Are we "Bunchers?" > "Bunchers." "Buncher." "I'm a buncher." "Hey, fellow bunchers!" "Listers" always makes me think we're out of balance. Which may indeed be the case. But it does make me want to reset the trim tabs.

[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?

2010-05-19 Thread Aaron Thomas
I don't know anything about Apex itself, but my understanding of SRAM gruppos is that the shifters and front and rear derailleurs must all be SRAM, because they have them optimized for the double tap shifting. I don't know if mixing an Apex with XX will work. You'd have to ask. Although I don't ha

[RBW] Re: Buncher Sighting

2010-05-19 Thread Aaron Thomas
Where's Waldo? Yes, I am most likely the person in question. And Mike is correct: I have a Romulus. Aaron On May 19, 7:37 am, Michael_S wrote: > please, no more Rivendell name games!   we've beat that one to > death. > > and I thought Aaron had a Romulus... at least from all the pic's I've > see

RE: [RBW] Re: Saluki

2010-05-19 Thread Frederick, Steve
terryg wrote: >and welcome to 650B! >Beware there may be a slippery slope ahead Indeed. My Saluki was my first 650b bike and I now have 5. (Equally the fault of K.Pacenti, for bringing the wheelsize to mountain biking) Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?

2010-05-19 Thread reynoldslugs
Beautiful new Roadeo frame received, will have the LBS build it up this week. Am thinking about SRAM Apex (brifters, derailleur, and 11-32 cassette). Or, possibly, the Apex brifters with SRAM XX derailleur and 11-36 cassette. Cranks will probably be a TA Cyclotourist knock-off from Velo Orange,

Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-19 Thread Gino Zahnd
Disclosure: Paul is a good friend of mine. Regarding the straddle wire, that sounds like a setup problem to me. I run Paul brakes on a few of my bikes, and that's not a problem with any of them. In fact, just squeezing the centerpulls by the pads should release the cable, or close to it. Without s

[RBW] Re: Shoe Splats!

2010-05-19 Thread dweendaddy
Like many Riv products those are heinous looking and (mildly) practical. I first saw them yesterday and chuckled, but then riding home in the rain with water repellent pants and jacket, I thought they might serve a use for commuters like me. In the winter I use NEOS overshoes, but they are a lot to

[RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison

2010-05-19 Thread happyriding
On May 19, 12:16 am, Rene Sterental wrote: > > These must be guidelines, obviously. After measuring horizontal distance > between my AHH and my Bombadil, the Bombadil is 1 - 1.5cm longer, although > the height difference between the saddle and bars might be affecting this > measurment, therefore t

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison

2010-05-19 Thread CycloFiend
on 5/19/10 12:24 AM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: > On May 19, 12:36 am, CycloFiend wrote: >> on 5/18/10 9:57 PM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: >> >>> On May 18, 8:38 pm, CycloFiend wrote: >> I'm not quite following your math (geometry?) on this.  When they de

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison

2010-05-19 Thread CycloFiend
on 5/19/10 5:29 AM, Seth Vidal at skvi...@gmail.com wrote: > There is also: > > http://alex.phred.org/stemchart/Default.aspx > > from Alex Wetmore Excellent! That's the one I was thinking about. Thanks Seth! - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - h

[RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison

2010-05-19 Thread happyriding
On May 19, 12:36 am, CycloFiend wrote: > on 5/18/10 9:57 PM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: > > > On May 18, 8:38 pm, CycloFiend wrote: > > >> I'm not quite following your math (geometry?) on this.  When they describe > >> the horizontal extension as 65 mm, wouldn't that be the just

[RBW] Re: Saluki

2010-05-19 Thread terryg
and welcome to 650B! Beware there may be a slippery slope ahead On May 18, 10:48 pm, Calm54 wrote: > Thanks! > On May 18, 4:41 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > > > Welcome to the club! > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: shopsack with drops

2010-05-19 Thread jlvota
I currently have my bike set up with 44mm drop bars and a medium basket, and I use my shopsack daily with no problems. The bag does touch the bars a little bit but it is nothing that gets in the way of my brakes (it probably wouldn't work so well with brifters), but it isn't a fuss for me. Most o

[RBW] Re: Saluki

2010-05-19 Thread Johnnymac
Hey Calm - The ride was so nice I guess you had to say it twice :-) The Rivboy's are putting together a Saluki for me now. They have a few new frames left over. I bought mine sight unseen, never even saw a Rivendell. Wanted one for years though and well, the Saluki will soon be heading to upsta

Re: [RBW] Selle Saddle

2010-05-19 Thread jimmy johnsen
I still have it.Some close to pulling the plug  From: Bruce To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 10:56:27 PM Subject: [RBW] Selle Saddle Hobie:  Is that thing sold yet? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to th

[RBW] Re: Buncher Sighting

2010-05-19 Thread Michael_S
please, no more Rivendell name games! we've beat that one to death. and I thought Aaron had a Romulus... at least from all the pic's I've seen. ~Mike~ On May 19, 3:54 am, Blindrobert wrote: > I like the idea of the made-up Rivendell model names..."Istari" or > some such nonsense, perhaps? > >

[RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison

2010-05-19 Thread Ginz
It is difficult to do the geometric calculations which compare the Technomic to the Dirt Drop because it is hard to find a right triangle in the setup. It is fair to say that a 6 or 7cm Technomic will get you as close as you will get to the same position as an 80mm Dirt Drop -- within 5mm or so as

[RBW] Re: Sizing on a A Homer Hilsen

2010-05-19 Thread Patrick in VT
On May 18, 8:23 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > I'm 5'11". It seems to me that I might have a shorter torso but long arms > and long legs. However, I've never been able to figure it out... :-) not sure about the long legs - your saddle height (76.5) seems a touch low for a leggy 5'11." >I could plac

RE: [RBW] Sizing on a A Homer Hilsen

2010-05-19 Thread Frederick, Steve
Bear in mind too that Noodles have a longish reach if you set them up flat-ramped. So a stem that's a cm or two shorter than one might expect to run for a given frame size isn't that uncommon... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@g

[RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison

2010-05-19 Thread Mike
Rene, I say go for it and get the Atlantis. Especially if you have a dedicated mountain bike. Maybe before you pull the trigger you could get out on a 61cm for a while. One thing I'd do if I were getting an Atlantis is have braze-ons added either mid fork, or behind the fork for the large Nitto fro

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison

2010-05-19 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 3:01 AM, CycloFiend wrote: > Made me dig through my ref's and refind this link: > > http://www.habcycles.com/fitting.html > > and I'll work through this when my brain is better.. > > http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/53925.html > > oh, and though this is set up more

[RBW] FS: Rivendell/Nitto "Big Back Rack" $140

2010-05-19 Thread Blindrobert
Used for two tours, plating is completely intact, no dents or bends, comes with the adjusting hardware. $140 delivered in the lower 48. I take good care of my stuff and this rack is in fantastic condition. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Buncher Sighting

2010-05-19 Thread Blindrobert
I like the idea of the made-up Rivendell model names..."Istari" or some such nonsense, perhaps? On May 19, 3:44 am, Philip Williamson wrote: > Are we "Bunchers?" > "Bunchers." "Buncher." "I'm a buncher." "Hey, fellow bunchers!" > > I don't think that's going to work for me... can we use one of

[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-19 Thread Blindrobert
Wow - I guess I am the only person who had these brakes and didn't care for them. I ordered my AHH built with the polished center mount version of the Racer and found them to be rather problematic. Neither the folks at Rivendell nor my LBS were able to help with the problems I was having: Proble

[RBW] shopsack with drops

2010-05-19 Thread J L
Does anyone have experience using the shopsack with drop bars? The wideness of it concerns me. I ride 44mm bars with a medium basket. I would just go to RBWHQ to check it out but it looks like they are out of the grid grey in the size I want. I'll make the trip when it is in stock. Jason --

[RBW] Re: Buncher Sighting

2010-05-19 Thread Philip Williamson
Are we "Bunchers?" "Bunchers." "Buncher." "I'm a buncher." "Hey, fellow bunchers!" I don't think that's going to work for me... can we use one of those made-up Rivendell model names instead? Philip On May 18, 10:44 am, Brad Gantt wrote: > On my way home from work I saw a dapper looking gent o

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison

2010-05-19 Thread CycloFiend
on 5/18/10 11:36 PM, CycloFiend at cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: > on 5/18/10 9:57 PM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: > >> On May 18, 8:38 pm, CycloFiend wrote: >>> >>> I'm not quite following your math (geometry?) on this.  When they describe >>> the horizontal extension as 65 m