though I'm late to the party...here is my input ... I would pick the
Atlantis hands down over the Bombadill. I just like the flatter top
tube and classic lines. Without disc brakes on the Bomba, I think is
not as usable off road as the construction and design intent would
dictate. To me it's just a beefier Atlantis for those
"larger" ( taller and wider) riders.

Down the road I intend to upgrade from my Hillborne to an Atlantis,
most likely in custom color.



On May 19, 10:35 am, CycloFiend <cyclofi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> on 5/19/10 9:30 AM, William at tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
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> > Jim
>
> > I think some of the compounding confusion comes from the Riv site.
> > There, they claim a 100mm dirt drop stem has an effective horizontal
> > extension of 82mm.  I think that should simply read 'extension' with
> > 'horizontal' removed.  That's  what my 100mm dirt drop stem measures
> > to, and only then does the trig make any sense.  Every vendor that
> > sells both the dirt drop and the Technomic call them +35deg and
> > -17deg, respectively.  Take a glance at the dirt drop stem installed
> > on the bike and it is obvious that the rise on the bike is >>35
> > degrees from horizontal.  It's about 54 degrees (35 degrees in stem
> > rise plus the complement to the headtube angle which in this case is
> > 19 degrees).
>
> > So, by my reckoning, the 100mm Dirt Drop stem does in fact have 82mm
> > of extension and ~86.5mm of reach.  That I've measured
> > By that same approach, the 80mm Dirt Drop stem has 65mm of extension
> > and ~69.4mm of reach.  That I have not measured
>
> > Using that fact, it turns out that a 80mm dirt drop stem which has 35
> > degrees of rise in the stem and ~65mm of extension, is within a mm or
> > two of a 7cm Technomic Deluxe in reach.
>
> Thanks for that salient and comprehensive explanation.
>
> I certainly got it all mucked up interchanging "reach" and "extension".  I
> appreciate the clarification.
>
> - J
>
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