on 5/18/10 11:36 PM, CycloFiend at cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:

> on 5/18/10 9:57 PM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
>> On May 18, 8:38 pm, CycloFiend <cyclofi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm not quite following your math (geometry?) on this.  When they describe
>>> the horizontal extension as 65 mm, wouldn't that be the just 5 mm longer
>>> than a 6 cm Technomic stem?
>>> 
>> 
>> If you have two stems: an 80mm Dirt Drop (with 65mm extension)  and a
>> 6cm Technomic, it will be impossible for you to get the bars in the
>> same spot--no matter what you do.   Additionally, you will never get
>> the bars to be within even .5 cm of each other.
> 
> That's the statement I'm not following.
> 
> If the extension is 6.5 cm on the Dirt Drop stem, and the extension is 6 cm
> on the Technomic, the former will be .5 cm closer with the bars at the same
> height.  
> 
> The extension is the measurement from the bolt center, which is the same as
> the center of the headtube. Whether you get there with an up-angle stem such
> as the DD or the "7" style of the Technomic doesn't matter.

Now, y'see, I shouldn't be making late posts when fighting a head cold...

It finally occurred to me why the 6 cm "7" style stem doesn't have a 6 cm
extension for the purposes of this comparison.  Now, it did take me putting
pencil dots on the 12 cm Technomic I'm not using and measuring, but, hey,
sometimes I'm a visual learner...

I was definitely confusing the idea of "Reach" and "Extension".

Made me dig through my ref's and refind this link:

http://www.habcycles.com/fitting.html

and I'll work through this when my brain is better..

http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/53925.html

oh, and though this is set up more for threadless (i.e. spacers) here's a
stem calculator (allows comparison for two sizes) -

http://www.brightspoke.com/t/bike-stem-calculator.html?

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