Re: whoops: create a splash window in python

2010-01-02 Thread Peter Decker
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:31 AM, Ron Croonenberg wrote: > is there a way, in python, to create a splash window and when the program > has completed disappears by sending a msg to it? (I tried creating two gtk > windows but gtk_main doesn't seem to return unless it gets closed.) It's really simp

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-27 Thread Peter Decker
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 4:47 PM, David C Ullrich wrote: > On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:22:20 -0700, sturlamolden wrote: > >> On 25 Aug, 05:56, Peter Decker wrote: >> >>> I use the Dabo Class Designer to visually design my forms. So what's >>> you're

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-25 Thread Peter Decker
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > The only framework that seems to be worth trying is Dabo. Unfortunately > there's little documentation, and that's mostly outdated. To be honest, that was my biggest concern when I tried Dabo. However, after as small a learning curve as o

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-24 Thread Peter Decker
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:26 PM, sturlamolden wrote: > On 25 Aug, 03:51, Peter Decker wrote: > >> I've used in fairly regularly for about 2 years now. I haven't had to >> write that ugly wxPython code for so long that every time I see >> examples on their ma

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-24 Thread Peter Decker
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Stephen Hansen wrote: > P.S. I have no idea why I'm pumping Dabo so much in this though I've never > used it! I've used in fairly regularly for about 2 years now. I haven't had to write that ugly wxPython code for so long that every time I see examples on their m

Re: What is the best framework or module in Python for a small GUI based application development?

2009-04-23 Thread Peter Decker
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:40 PM, John Fabiani wrote: > You might consider Dabo (www.dabodev.com) if access to data is required. You might also consider it if you like a simple, Pythonic UI. I don't work with databases, and I love Dabo for creating lots of utilities for interfacing with, say, te

Re: Easy-to-use Python GUI

2008-12-26 Thread Peter Decker
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 1:46 AM, Gabriel Genellina wrote: > En Wed, 24 Dec 2008 21:47:07 -0200, Joel Koltner > escribió: > >> Is there an easy-to-use, "function"-based cross-platform GUI toolkit for >> Python out there that's a little more sophisticated than EasyGui? > > Try Dabo http://dabodev.c

Re: [wxpython-users] Dabo 0.9.0 Released

2008-12-12 Thread Peter Decker
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: > We are proud (and relieved!) to finally release Dabo 0.9.0, the first > official release of the framework in six months. We haven't been taking it > easy during that period; rather, we made some changes that clean up some > weak spots in the codeb

Re: is there really no good gui builder

2008-11-08 Thread Peter Decker
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 1:35 PM, azrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > whoever I ask, everyone tells me when it come to python and GUI-s and > that there is the best way to use WX. I am browsing for the 10th time > during the last year and I can still not bealive that there is not one > project to mak

Re: Database GUI generation from schema

2008-10-02 Thread Peter Decker
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Eric Wertman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Perhaps are you talking about dabo ? >> http://www.dabodev.com > > Yes, that was it. Thanks! I was a little dissapointed to see that > the wikipedia entry for that software was deleted. Is dabo not widely > used? Depend

Re: PyGUI as a standard GUI API for Python?

2008-09-05 Thread Peter Decker
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Diez B. Roggisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You got me wrong. I didn't say it doesn't use the native toolkit under > various OSes, I'm well aware of that it does. > > What I *did* say was that wx API is designed primarily with windows' toolkit > as base, and as a

Re: PyGUI as a standard GUI API for Python?

2008-09-05 Thread Peter Decker
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Diez B. Roggisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Palmer schrieb: >> >> As anyone knows, the state of Python GUI programming is a little >> fractured at this time, with many toolkits, wrappers and meta-wrappers >> dead and alive, with or without documentation. >

Re: Is there no single/uniform RDBMS access API module for Python ?

2008-05-12 Thread Peter Decker
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Banibrata Dutta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Based on this URL http://wiki.python.org/moin/DatabaseInterfaces , is > it correct to conclude that there is no RDBMS agnostic, single/uniform DB > access API for Python ? > > > Something in the lines of JDBC for Ja

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-10 Thread Peter Decker
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Chris Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've always had an interest in Python and would like to dabble in it > further. I've worked on a few very small command line programs but > nothing of any complexity. I'd like to build a really simple GUI app > that wi

Re: Need Help Starting Out

2008-03-19 Thread Peter Decker
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:10 AM, jmDesktop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, I would like to start using Python, but am unsure where to begin. > I know how to look up a tutorial and learn the language, but not what > all technologies to use. I saw references to plain Python, Django, > and other

Re: Where's GUI for Python?

2008-03-02 Thread Peter Decker
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You should also take a look at wxGlade: > > http://wxglade.sourceforge.net/ > > which sits on top of wxPython: > > http://wxpython.org/ > > which wraps wxWidgets: > > http://www.wxwindows.org/ I have used wxGlade

Re: Where's GUI for Python?

2008-03-01 Thread Peter Decker
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 3:35 PM, K Viltersten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm certain there is an API for creating > GUI's but as far i can find it in the > http://docs.python.org/tut/tut.html > the only "gui" is in "Guido". Check out Dabo: http://dabodev.com It uses the wxPython UI toolkit, b

Re: Testing whether something is of type Exception

2008-01-24 Thread Peter Decker
On Jan 24, 2008 5:14 PM, John Nagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How can I tell whether an object is of type Exception? > At least in Python 2.4, "Exception" is an old-style class, and > the "type" of Exception objects is "instance". > > Clearly "repr" knows; it returns: > isinsta

Re: Yet another database question, please

2007-11-30 Thread Peter Decker
On Nov 30, 2007 9:20 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 30, 7:23 am, nmp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello to all. I am only just learning both Python and PyGTK (with Glade). > > I also need to learn how to use databases in my programs. My preliminary > > research leads me in the directi

Re: Oh no, my code is being published ... help!

2007-11-30 Thread Peter Decker
On Nov 30, 2007 1:19 AM, Tim Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You also have a couple of instances of: > print("Error Squeezing %s...") > > The parentheses serve no purpose here, and are unidiomatic. I thought that with the eventual dropping of 'print' as a statement in Python 3, that writ

Re: Very basic, sorting a list ???

2007-11-28 Thread Peter Decker
On Nov 28, 2007 7:22 PM, stef mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > print 'xx3',ordered_list.sort() The sort() method returns None. It sorts the list in place; it doesn't return a copy of the sorted list. -- # p.d. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Need some help...

2007-10-28 Thread Peter Decker
On 10/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I want to then have those numbers > 13+4+1+7+5 added together to be 30. > > How can I do that? > > Also, just curious, but, how could I then have the 3 and 0 added > together to be 3? > > Please help me out. Will you put our names on you

Re: why doesn't have this list a "reply-to" ?

2007-10-16 Thread Peter Decker
On 10/16/07, stef mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm always have great difficulties, replying to this beautiful and > helpful list. > > When I hit the reply button, > the message is sent personally to the sender and not to the list. > I've subscribed to dozen's of lists, > and all have an "r

Re: Cross-platform GUI development

2007-10-12 Thread Peter Decker
On 10/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My question is if Tix is old hat, what is the GUI toolkit I *should* > be using for quick-n-dirty cross platform GUI development? I would heartily recommend Dabo (http://dabodev.com). It wraps the wxPython toolkit, but eliminates 99% of

Re: An Editor that Skips to the End of a Def

2007-09-25 Thread Peter Decker
On 9/25/07, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Why does it "choose" to modify your position when you exit insert > >> mode? Does the phrase "broken as designed" mean anything to you? > > > > Does the phrase "everything I don't like is stupid" mean anything to > > you? Honestly, if you do

Re: Python statements not forcing whitespace is messy?

2007-09-16 Thread Peter Decker
On 9/15/07, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Machin wrote: > > On 16/09/2007 8:11 AM, James Stroud wrote: > >> Steve Holden wrote: > >>> I don't know why you have a bug up your ass about it, as the > >>> Americans say. > >> I think most Americans say "wild hare up your ass". > > > I

Re: Python 3K or Python 2.9?

2007-09-12 Thread Peter Decker
On 9/12/07, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TheFlyingDutchman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I am talking about how an author describes in English the "this" > > pointer/reference in their book on programming C++ or Java. > > > > I don't think you will find them saying that under the cov

Re: Database intensive application

2007-08-12 Thread Peter Decker
On 8/12/07, Rohit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am a novice. I want to know whether Python can be used to develop > client/server database and web applications like .NET. Which is the > best book/source to learn Python? You've already gotten several excellent answers for web applications; if you

Re: highly einteractive editor for python

2007-07-10 Thread Peter Decker
On 7/10/07, Atul Bhingarde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I want to see is that it is possible to create a python based > application in a environment where I can see the results as I am creating > it, specifically gui widgets (from say TK). This will provide a robust > mechanism to see gui layo

Re: Restarting a Python Application

2007-07-07 Thread Peter Decker
On 7/7/07, Kelvie Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ugh.. this would be a repost for the OP, but I forgot to hit "reply to > all" again. Imagine if you wrote applications where the default behavior did not do what was needed 99% of the time: how long do you think you'd be in business? The defaul

Re: Tabbed windows Support in Python

2007-06-27 Thread Peter Decker
On 6/27/07, senthil arasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > Currently iam implementing GUI Framework for supporting Tabbed windows to > render different HTML Pages. > A row of tabs facilitated for navigation of pages. > > Iam expecting some classes like "QTabWidget" whick provided by Qt Libarary

Re: PEP 3107 and stronger typing (note: probably a newbie question)

2007-06-21 Thread Peter Decker
On 6/21/07, Bjoern Schliessmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stephen R Laniel wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 12:59:28PM -0700, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> Then you should use another language. > > > > This is what I meant about knowing how Internet discussions > > go. > > I agree. I als

Re: visual gui ides for python/jythpn

2007-06-20 Thread Peter Decker
On 6/20/07, kromakey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Are there any free visual GUI IDE's available for python/jython, which > have a drag and drop form designer similar to Visual Studio or > Delphi ? Watch these screencasts, and then check out Dabo: http://leafe.com/screencasts/dataenvironme

Re: dabo framework dependancies

2007-05-23 Thread Peter Decker
On 5/22/07, daniel gadenne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm considering moving over to dabo for wxpython development. > However I do not write traditional database applications > à la foxpro (I'm a 20 years user of fox...) anymore. > Only xml-fed applications. > > I'm a bit hesitant to jump onboar

Re: Python and GUI

2007-05-21 Thread Peter Decker
On 5/21/07, Paul McNett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shameless plug: consider using Dabo on top of wxPython - we feel it > makes wxPython even easier and more pythonic, but admittedly there's a > bit of a learning curve there too. Even though Dabo is a full > application framework originally meant

Re: GUI tutorial

2007-05-13 Thread Peter Decker
On 5/13/07, John K Masters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can someone point me in the direction of a good tutorial on programming > python with a GUI? I'm just starting out with python and have written a > few scripts successfully but would like to add a graphical front end to > them to make it easie

Re: About Trolltech QT OpenSource license.

2007-04-10 Thread Peter Decker
On 10 Apr 2007 12:29:36 -0700, king kikapu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi to all, > > i am coming from the Microsoft (.net) world and at the quest of > finding the right GUI toolkit that i can use from Python, i have two > obvious choices to choose from: wxPython and Qt. > > Both are looking very

Re: Resume of Steve Snow : Database SQL Applications Programmer

2007-04-04 Thread Peter Decker
On 4/4/07, stevesnow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- > > Please forward this work experience & skills summary > to your Database & software development, MIS/IT/Software Department for > review. > > -- > > He

Re: IDE for wxPython

2007-03-18 Thread Peter Decker
On 3/17/07, Ghirai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can anyone suggest an IDE for wxPython? > Or an IDE for TkInter? Don't know about Tkinter, but for wxPython, I would suggest Dabo. You get their visual tools, along with a more robust and consistent wrapper around the wxPython API. -- # p.d. --

Re: Help Required for Choosing Programming Language

2007-02-19 Thread Peter Decker
On 19 Feb 2007 09:56:06 -0800, Mark Morss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good grief. I suppose it is Microsoft to whom we owe the idea that > there could be such a thing as a "GUI based" programming language. Who do we blame for the idea that everyone in the world should be able to express themsel

Re: Help Required for Choosing Programming Language

2007-02-18 Thread Peter Decker
On 2/17/07, Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some examples: > - Creating a treeview (like in the M$ explorer), with full edit capabilities > and full drag & drop > facilities: Delphi takes about 40 lines of code (most of them even ^C ^V). > - Creating a graphical overview of relations be

Re: Help Required for Choosing Programming Language

2007-02-16 Thread Peter Decker
On 2/16/07, Stef Mientki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In one of the other threads, Dabo was meant as a GUI designer, > I tried it yesterday, > and although it looks very promising, > at the moment this is not a graphical design environment, > just a complex (compared to Delphi) design environment

Re: Bush, yank bastards kicked by india in their arse Re: *POLL* How many sheeple believe in the 911 fairy tale and willing to accept an Orwellian doublespeak and enslavement world ?

2007-02-16 Thread Peter Decker
On 16 Feb 2007 04:34:08 -0800, Fuzzyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're a racist malicious moron. You mis-spelled 'troll'. -- # p.d. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: "Correct" db adapter

2007-02-01 Thread Peter Decker
On 1 Feb 2007 02:13:01 -0800, king kikapu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But one of the reasons that i started learning Python, is to NOT to be > tied-up again with ANY company or specific product again (i had enough > MS addiction over these years...). So, based on this direction, i am > using pyo

Re: My python programs need a GUI, wxPython or PyQt4?

2007-01-23 Thread Peter Decker
On 1/23/07, Daniel Jonsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, I've reached the point where my building pipeline tools actually > needs to be used by other people in my company. By this reason I > actually need to think about the usability, and I've come to the > conclusion that I need a GUI. So, whic

Re: Projects anyone?

2007-01-16 Thread Peter Decker
On 16 Jan 2007 04:07:50 -0800, placid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm looking for anyone who is working on a project at the moment that > needs help (volunteer). The last project i worked on personally was > screen-scraping MySpace profiles (read more at the following link) > > http://

Re: How to invoke parent's method?

2007-01-07 Thread Peter Decker
On 7 Jan 2007 01:33:32 -0800, Frank Millman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The essential point is that you save a reference to the frame when you > create the panel. Then when the button is clicked you can use the > reference to call the frame's Close method. Or you could look into Dabo. This is on

Re: DOS, UNIX and tabs

2007-01-02 Thread Peter Decker
On 1/1/07, Tom Plunket <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe I'm also weird, but I use a variable-pitch font when programming > in Python. So a "tab equals some number of spaces" really isn't useful > to me. My setup is, "tab equals this much space". A year ago I would have thought you were weird,

Re: Stani's Python Editor - questions

2006-12-21 Thread Peter Decker
On 12/21/06, Franz Steinhaeusler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Does not work for me! I'm getting messages like this: > > > >python:3255): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_container_remove: assertion > >`GTK_IS_TOOLBARcontainer) || widget->parent == GTK_WIDGETcontainer)' failed > >python:3255): Gtk-CRITICAL **

Re: Good Looking UI for a stand alone application

2006-12-18 Thread Peter Decker
On 12/18/06, Luc Heinrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You're full of it. I routinely write GUI apps in Dabo for both Windows > > and Linux users, and they look just fine on both platforms. > > Oh, I'm sure you do. Now go try to run one of your Dabo apps on a Mac > and see how it looks/feels...

Re: Good Looking UI for a stand alone application

2006-12-18 Thread Peter Decker
On 12/17/06, Luc Heinrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My requirement is that the application needs to look as good on Windows as > > on the Apple Mac > > Crossplatform GUIs are a myth, you *always* end up with a lowest common > denominator (aka Windows) which makes your application look like cr

Re: Good Looking UI for a stand alone application

2006-12-16 Thread Peter Decker
On 12/16/06, The Night Blogger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can someone recommend me a good API for writing a sexy looking (Rich UI like > WinForms) shrink wrap application > > My requirement is that the application needs to look as good on Windows as > on the Apple Mac For my money (even though i

Re: python + database book

2006-12-04 Thread Peter Decker
On 12/4/06, Giuseppe Di Martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > new to python. > > i work with db heavily. > > > > any good book for python + database? > > Evaluate http://www.sqlalchemy.org/ and his documentation If you are looking to work with desktop apps, you should also check out Dabo: ht

Re: client/server design and advice

2006-12-01 Thread Peter Decker
On 1 Dec 2006 10:37:39 -0800, John Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now...if only i could master python gui programming and development ;) > You would short change yourself if you don't check out the other > packages such as Pythoncard, and Dabo. FWIW, Dabo has all of the database connectivi

Re: How to choose the right GUI toolkit ?

2006-11-10 Thread Peter Decker
On 9 Nov 2006 09:13:00 -0800, Dan Lenski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nick and John S., thank you for the tip on wxPython! I'll look into it > for my next project. I too would avoid Qt, not because of the GPL but > simply because I don't use KDE under Linux and because Qt is not well > supported

Re: python GUIs comparison (want)

2006-11-04 Thread Peter Decker
On 4 Nov 2006 08:23:40 -0800, Mudcat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been using Tkinter for several years now. Recently I have been > thinking about switching to something else that may have a sharper > appearance. However I'm not sure what that may be, and if that > something else is *that* m

Re: wxPython TextCtrl - weird scrolling behavior

2006-11-01 Thread Peter Decker
On 1 Nov 2006 04:54:32 -0800, abcd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > thanks for the feedback, I am watching the screencasts, which are > helping already. I think I will try out the Dabo GUI tool since it > uses wxPython...and see if I can get the code I need from it. I think you'll be very impressed.

Re: Handling emails

2006-10-26 Thread Peter Decker
On 10/26/06, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree it's a pain, but Fulvio may not have it in his power to > > switch the header off. Mail admins do some incredibly stupid things. > > There is always the option to not send messages to this list using > that mail server. I don't care wh

Re: python GUIs comparison (want)

2006-10-24 Thread Peter Decker
On 24 Oct 2006 16:38:28 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You load dabo and then load your program through dabo... That > was all I needed to know to disregard it. Wow - inaccurate and proud of it! Your loss. -- # p.d. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-li

Re: python GUIs comparison (want)

2006-10-24 Thread Peter Decker
On 10/24/06, Kevin Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > wxPython: > Pro: Popular, actively developed, wraps native widgets, looks great on > Windows, commercial-friendly license > Con: Based on C++ toolkit; docs assume knowledge of C++; some think > coding style is too much like C++; complex to bui

Re: python GUIs comparison (want)

2006-10-24 Thread Peter Decker
On 23 Oct 2006 22:07:39 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now i began to learn GUI programming. There are so many > choices of GUI in the python world, wxPython, pyGTK, PyQT, > Tkinter, .etc, it's difficult for a novice to decide, however. > Can you draw a comparison among them

Re: Tkinter--does anyone use it for sophisticated GUI development?

2006-10-22 Thread Peter Decker
On 22 Oct 2006 17:26:55 -0700, alex23 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you also tell when you're wrong? > > I checked out Wax last week for the first time; I hit a snag and got an > answer from the lead developer within a day, along with a pointer to > the latest dev version. > > But don't let com

Re: Tkinter--does anyone use it for sophisticated GUI development?

2006-10-22 Thread Peter Decker
On 22 Oct 2006 02:40:17 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With some cleaning and improving, I think wax > (http://zephyrfalcon.org/labs/wax.html ) can become good too. I looked at Wax, but the author doesn't seem to be too involved with it. It looks like a cool idea that he de

Re: Tkinter--does anyone use it for sophisticated GUI development?

2006-10-21 Thread Peter Decker
On 21 Oct 2006 08:26:56 -0700, sturlamolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That leaves you with wxPython (utterly ugly API, remninds me of MFC and > Motif), PyQt (very expensive unless GPL is not a show stopper) or > PyObjC. I too hated the wxPython API, but loved how it looked. And since I need th

Re: Book about database application development?

2006-10-15 Thread Peter Decker
On 10/15/06, Wolfgang Keller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I'm interested in is rather how to connect a GUI to a database, with > quite a bit of application logic in between. And how to do it well. You've described Dabo perfectly. Have you looked into it yet? It's written by a couple of datab

Re: IDE

2006-10-13 Thread Peter Decker
On 10/13/06, Theerasak Photha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/13/06, giuseppe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What is the better IDE software for python programming? I like SPE. They really work the way I like to work. -- # p.d. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python component model

2006-10-13 Thread Peter Decker
On 10/12/06, Peter Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter Decker wrote: > > I think you should take a good look at Dabo and the visual tools they > > are creating. > > Thanks for the hint, Peter. I've heard of Dabo and it's on my list of > things to be

Re: is there an easy way to create a database on the fly and let the user input values

2006-10-13 Thread Peter Decker
On 12 Oct 2006 15:50:16 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > dabo looks intresting but I am just looking for the simplist way and > having to load from thier thing just complicates stuff. I could > probily just use wx.grid but examples are scarce, I have seen some > simple dbm st

Re: Standard Forth versus Python: a case study

2006-10-12 Thread Peter Decker
On 12 Oct 2006 04:40:32 -0700, Paul Rubin <"http://phr.cx"@nospam.invalid> wrote: > Paul Rubin writes: > > > fun median { > > > var x = 0. > > > while( *p++) { > > > if( (*p) > x) x = *p. > > > } > > > return x. > > > } > > > > I count two variables, p and x. >

Re: Python component model

2006-10-11 Thread Peter Decker
On 11 Oct 2006 20:08:12 -0700, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, then, why not contribute? Or are you waiting for everyone else > > to do it for you? > > I've contributed already (my contructive criticism). > > It's up to the team to react. Wow! What a contribution! Amazing tha

Re: Python component model

2006-10-11 Thread Peter Decker
On 11 Oct 2006 18:56:30 -0700, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yes, an interesting tool. > > But to get more attention and developers, the project needs to be > polished. > > really unattractive resources: > > http://dabodev.com > http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/DaboAudit Well, then,

Re: Python component model

2006-10-11 Thread Peter Decker
On 10/10/06, Peter Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I for my part would be happy to see a Delphi-like RAD tool for Python, > a reference implementation for web programming as part of the standard > library, Jython 2.5, Python for PHP or whatever attracts new programmers. I think you should take

Re: Where is Python in the scheme of things?

2006-10-04 Thread Peter Decker
On 10/4/06, gord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a complete novice in the study of Python, I am asking myself where this > language is superior or better suited than others. For example, all I see in > the tutorials are lots of examples of list processing, arithmetic > calculations - all in a DOS-l

Re: Mega Newbie Questions: Probably FAQs

2006-08-16 Thread Peter Decker
On 8/15/06, Zeph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Framework for what kind of apps? Web, native GUI, client-server, etc? > > MVC is an abstract architecture rather than a specific implementation. > > Even so, many implementations rarely employ a purely MVC design. > > Native GUI with some client-serve

Re: TextCtrl focus events in wxWidgets

2006-07-19 Thread Peter Decker
On 19 Jul 2006 04:55:24 -0700, Simon Hibbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Frank Millman wrote: > > > Try self.PlantCtrl.Bind(wx.EVT_KILL_FOCUS, self.OnUpdatePlantCtrl) > > And Voila! It works. Many, many thanks. > > Any idea what is going on? Your first attempt used self.Bind, which binds the kill

Re: Feed wxComboBox with dictionary/hash

2006-06-22 Thread Peter Decker
On 22 Jun 2006 06:45:25 -0700, Roland Rickborn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My first question: > how can a wx.ComboBox be fed by a dictionary? This is one of those annoying things about wxPython that made me so happy to switch to using the dabo.ui wrapper for wxPython instead. You can set up the

Re: using import * with GUIs?

2006-05-31 Thread Peter Decker
On 5/31/06, John Salerno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess if I'm going to learn a GUI, I might as well jump right into > wxPython from the beginning. May I recommend that you take a look at the Dabo project? While they have a full application framework for creating database applications, you

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Peter Decker
On 24 May 2006 15:54:56 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And ain't it cool that reporting Xah's abuse might stop both? C'mon - admit it! you hafta be a Republican with a hardon for Bush! -- # p.d. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Peter Decker
On 24 May 2006 15:26:12 GMT, John Bokma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Ant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have no particular affinity for Xah's views, but what does get up my > > nose is usenet Nazism. > > That's because you're clueless. Sounds like your one of those Bush ass-lickers who think

Re: Tabs are *MISUNDERSTOOD*, *EVIL* AND *STUPID*, end of discussion. (Re: Tabs versus Spaces in Source Code)

2006-05-19 Thread Peter Decker
On 19 May 2006 07:18:03 GMT, Duncan Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Can you point at any significant body of publically visible Python code > which uses tabs exclusively? All of the Python projects I've ever been > involved with use spaces only as a convention (although as I pointed out in > my previou

Re: Tabs are *MISUNDERSTOOD*, *EVIL* AND *STUPID*, end of discussion. (Re: Tabs versus Spaces in Source Code)

2006-05-17 Thread Peter Decker
On 5/17/06, Andy Sy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Uh, I should know better than to try to educate, but FYI: using the > > same argument construction and having it reach an invalid conclusion > > suffices to show that the original construction is invalid, and thus > > the original conclusion is su

Re: Tabs versus Spaces in Source Code

2006-05-17 Thread Peter Decker
On 17 May 2006 07:14:33 -0700, Bill Pursell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think you unfairly snipped context on me. I was directly responding > to the assertion that vi is unable to handle tabs well. I was *agreeing* with you. Sorry if that wasn't clear. -- # p.d. -- http://mail.python.org/

Re: Tabs are *MISUNDERSTOOD*, *EVIL* AND *STUPID*, end of discussion. (Re: Tabs versus Spaces in Source Code)

2006-05-17 Thread Peter Decker
On 5/17/06, Andy Sy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter Decker wrote: > > On 5/17/06, Andy Sy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> If tabs are easily misunderstood, then they are a MISfeature > >> and they need to be removed. > > > > I do

Re: Tabs versus Spaces in Source Code

2006-05-17 Thread Peter Decker
On 17 May 2006 06:51:19 -0700, Bill Pursell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In my experience, the people who complain about the use > of tabs for indentation are the people who don't know > how to use their editor, and those people tend to use > emacs. In my experience, whenever there is a 'religiou

Re: Tabs are *MISUNDERSTOOD*, *EVIL* AND *STUPID*, end of discussion. (Re: Tabs versus Spaces in Source Code)

2006-05-17 Thread Peter Decker
On 5/17/06, Andy Sy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If tabs are easily misunderstood, then they are a MISfeature > and they need to be removed. I don't seem to understand your point in acting as a dictator. Therefore, you are a MISfeature and need to be removed. -- # p.d. -- http://mail.python.o

Re: Tabs versus Spaces in Source Code

2006-05-15 Thread Peter Decker
On 5/15/06, Edward Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If such tools are lacking, use substitutes in the meantime. Don't allow any > code to be checked in where a line departs more than one tab indentation > level from its neighbors. It's not perfect, but it eliminates the worst > offenses. Go

Re: Tabs versus Spaces in Source Code

2006-05-15 Thread Peter Decker
On 5/15/06, Brian Quinlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem with tabs is that people use tabs for alignment e.g. > > def foo(): >->query = """SELECT * >-> -> -> FROM sometable >-> -> -> WHERE condition""" > > Now I change my editor to use 8-space tabs and the code is all

Re: Tabs versus Spaces in Source Code

2006-05-15 Thread Peter Decker
On 5/15/06, Chris Klaiber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem comes when the author prefers a smaller tab width than what my > editor is set to. Sure, I could change it for that file, but what if I'm > reading a whole directory? Sure, I could change the default setting in my > editor, but wha

Re: GUI in python

2006-03-29 Thread Peter Decker
On 29 Mar 2006 14:20:03 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am a python newbie and have used it for about a month. I want to make > a simple GUI app in Python ( I take input form user and do processing > and show results). > > Which gui package is good for me. I need to do it q

Re: Cheese Shop: some history for the new-comers

2006-03-16 Thread Peter Decker
On 3/16/06, Terry Hancock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But the usual distinction (on any project web page) is > "User" versus "Developer". > > Who is a "user" of Python? That would be you, right? It > would be fairly silly to have a page only for people who > have programs written in Python that t

Re: Cheese Shop: some history for the new-comers

2006-03-12 Thread Peter Decker
On 3/12/06, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter Decker wrote: > > > Can't say I've ever run into anything that hadn't already been > > reported. > > how did you check if it was already reported ? I asked about it on this list, or on the w

Re: Cheese Shop: some history for the new-comers

2006-03-12 Thread Peter Decker
On 3/12/06, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter Decker wrote: > > > I consider myself a Python developer, and if I saw a 'Developers' link > > on a Python site, it would seem obvious that it would be something > > that might interest

Re: Cross Module Command Useage

2006-03-12 Thread Peter Decker
On 3/12/06, Keith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So lets say have two modules.. moduleA and moduleB… they are both imported > into a main python program using the "from module import *" command… There's your big mistake. This sort of import pollutes the namespace, because now all the items in the mo

Re: Cheese Shop: some history for the new-comers

2006-03-12 Thread Peter Decker
On 3/12/06, Tim Parkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > freinds and colleagues both online and off.. Some of whom are python > programmers, most not. Without a budget for 'comprehensive testing' then > the next best thing is asking people, at least you'll generally get rid > of the big bloopers.. it's

Re: Cheese Shop: some history for the new-comers

2006-03-11 Thread Peter Decker
On 3/11/06, Mike C. Fletcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I realise it's an incredibly boring name, but what about pronouncing it > as "the package index" or "the Python Package Index". Spelling it > "PyPI" if one insists on a very short name in some written context is > fine, but try not to use

Re: Which GUI toolkit is THE best?

2006-03-10 Thread Peter Decker
On 3/10/06, invitro81 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But I've no idea which one I should use to start with.. I've read that > tkinter seems to be the de facto standart in the pyhon community; but > why? Is it the best available one or are theire other reasons? I read > also a litte about wxpython an

Re: RAD tutorials and tools for GUI development with Python?

2006-03-08 Thread Peter Decker
On 3/8/06, Arthur Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey guys, > > I would really like to code a few more widely useable apps, but coding the > GUI just seems so boring and unnecessarily complex. Maybe I was spoilt by > Borland's Delphi/Kylix. But is there any way to do as little coding of the

Re: Write a GUI for a python script?

2006-03-05 Thread Peter Decker
On 3/5/06, Bill Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the info. Knowing that, I was able to create a simple app in > the Dabo Designer that contains a Notebook. > > But, I'm having a heck of a time finding any documentation at all on > Dabo. I looked all thru the website(s), and have c

Re: Write a GUI for a python script?

2006-03-04 Thread Peter Decker
On 3/4/06, Bill Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dabo does look really nice, but seems like it has a ways to go yet. > > I downloaded it a couple of weeks ago, and the very first thing I wanted > to do doesn't seem to be supported. I tried to create a simple > application with a Notebook cont

Re: Write a GUI for a python script?

2006-03-03 Thread Peter Decker
On 3 Mar 2006 01:16:23 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I, too, am a python newbie and have wrestled with GUI programming. I > think I am winning, but its been a struggle. I started with wxPython and struggled with it for a long time. I was able to get the job done, but using it never seemed natural.

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