On 12/18/06, Luc Heinrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You're full of it. I routinely write GUI apps in Dabo for both Windows > > and Linux users, and they look just fine on both platforms. > > Oh, I'm sure you do. Now go try to run one of your Dabo apps on a Mac > and see how it looks/feels... :>
I don't have a Mac, although I would certainly like one. But one of the two authors of Dabo is a Mac user, and says that he does all his development on a Mac, and then tests it on the other platforms. Look at the screencasts on the Dabo site - most of them are recorded on OS X. > Here's a hint directly taken from the Dabo homepage: "It also suffers > from the same display limitations on some platforms (most notably OS X), > but these should improve as the underlying toolkits improve." OK, it's true: you don't have 100% access to the lickable Aqua stuff that a Cocoa app might be able to use. But paged controls use native Aqua tabs; progress bars are native Aqua bars, buttons are native Aqua buttons... Perfect? Of course not. But stating that it sucks is a load of crap. > > Using sizers is the key; layouts just 'look right' no matter what the native > > fonts and control sizes are. > > No, sizers are a tiny part of a much bigger problem. Sizers might be the > key to solve parts of the "look" problem, they don't address any of the > "feel" problem. Huh? Based on what I've seen on the screencasts, the apps look better on the Mac than they do on XP. How should I judge how they "feel"? SIzers automatically take care of font metric differences and native control size differences. > But you clearly have a point here, so let me rephrase: "Crossplatform > toolkits/frameworks suck. All of them. No exception. UNLESS you only > target the lowest common denominator, aka Windows and its Linux > followers". > > Now, the OP *explicitely* said that "[his] requirement is that the > application needs to look as good on Windows as on the Apple Mac", so > the rephrasing does not apply in this case. So here's a last try: Well, I don't think *anything* looks as good on Windows as it does on a Mac, whether it is from a platform-specific toolkit such as Winforms or a cross-platform toolkit like wxPython. If you want it to look as good on Windows, you'll have to use VNC or something like that. > "Crossplatform toolkits/frameworks suck. All of them. No exception. > ESPECIALLY if one of your target is Mac OS". Such self-important pronouncements would be better received if you brought them down the mountain on stone tablets. -- # p.d. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
