Re: Decline and fall of scripting languages ?

Quoth Paul Rubin : | Right now I'm mainly interested in OCaml, Haskell, Erlang, and maybe | Occam. Haskell seems to have the happiest users, which is always a | good thing. Erlang has been used for real-world systems and has | built-in concurrency support. OCaml seems

Re: Python -- (just) a successful experiment?

EP wrote: > But sometimes a rugged individual can be even more rugged and more individual > if said individual has the support of friends by which to vet ideas and, by > absorbing counterpoint, to develop one's own thoughts even further. > > > And it is kind of nice when you have two teams drill

Re: Point and click GUI builder for Python

neuruss neuruss wrote: > Madhusudan Singh wrote: > > Is there such a thing for python ? Like Qt Designer for instance ? > > The easiest way to create Python GUI apps: PythonCard. > It is based on wxPython by it has a higher level of abstraction. > You just drag and drop widgets on a form and code t

Re: Point and click GUI builder for Python

neuruss neuruss wrote: > Madhusudan Singh wrote: > > Is there such a thing for python ? Like Qt Designer for instance ? > > The easiest way to create Python GUI apps: PythonCard. > It is based on wxPython by it has a higher level of abstraction. > You just drag and drop widgets on a form and code t

Re: Python -- (just) a successful experiment?

On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 10:10 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote: > Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The second presentation (I don't recall the speaker's name) specifically > > covered metaprogramming (writing DSLs) and one of the things I found > > interesting was that despite Ruby having far more

Re: PEP: Specialization Syntax

On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 21:24:15 -0400, Nicolas Fleury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Bengt Richter wrote: >> On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 16:18:50 -0400, Nicolas Fleury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>I wrote the PEP to see if was the only one that would benefit from >>>generic types *before* having optional stat

Re: Python -- (just) a successful experiment?

"Kay Schluehr" wrote: > I already see the headline: PEEP is the answer - PSF votes for software > patents. All ideas are written down by volunteers in great detail they > just have to be coded. Due to intellectual property rights PSF becomes > one of the richest organizations in the world. Guido v

Re: python for microcontrollers

Hi Bastard, one of the main reasons PyPy gets funded by the EU was the promise to port Python to embedded systems ( but not necessarily very memory restricted ones ). The project seems to be in a state where the team tries to get rid of the CPython runtime alltogether and reaching some autonomy. T

Re: Python Project (sigh with Java)

Ramza Brown wrote: > And I normally don't take the entire python library with me. I just > take 'jython.jar' so I can distribute it easier. Agreed - if one is happy with the costs of java inter-operation, then jython rocks the house. Otherwise, I could recommend PMW atop Tkinter, since the python

Re: Chopping off spaces at both ends

Madhusudan Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I am a newbie to python and am using it to interface some of my lab >equipment. > >How does one get rid of spaces at both ends of a string ? A little > like the >trim() intrinsic in fortran 95. > >One of my instruments is retur

Re: How to connect to UNIX machine from windows box

Pooja Sharma wrote: > I want to connect to unix machine using ssh to run some commands . > > Is there any python module available that can be called in any other > python script. > > Reply asap. :) No, you don't get to demand that we reply ASAP. It's rude. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart

Re: How to connect to UNIX machine from windows box

> I want to connect to unix machine using ssh to run some commands . > I have not tried this, but it might be useful. http://www.lag.net/paramiko/ HTH, Ross -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

How to connect to UNIX machine from windows box

I want to connect to unix machine using ssh to run some commands . Is there any python module available that can be called in any other python script. Reply asap. :) Thanks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python Project (sigh with Java)

But the function is also too limited. What I want to do is to run much of my py scripts in jython as good as possible. On 8/9/05, Ramza Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > could ildg wrote: > > Good job~ > > I also like both java and py so I always focus on jython, > > but now it's being moved forw

Re: Decline and fall of scripting languages ?

Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, I tried sending this via email, but I can't derive a valid > address from Paul's anti-spammed address. Yeah, I should update that url since they turned off the forwarding. It should be . But a thread titled "decline and fall of

Re: Pickling limitation with instances defining __cmp__/__hash__?

Erik Max Francis wrote: > I've come across a limitation in unpickling certain types of complex > data structures which involve instances that override __hash__, and was > wondering if it was known (basic searches didn't seem to come up with > anything similar) and if there is a workaround for i

Re: Python Project (sigh with Java)

could ildg wrote: > Good job~ > I also like both java and py so I always focus on jython, > but now it's being moved forward kinda slow. > I'm looking forward to jython 2.4. > > You're right, swing is great. wxpy is also wonderfu but it's so lack > of docs. I mainly work on windows so I use p4d(py

Re: Python Project (sigh with Java)

Good job~ I also like both java and py so I always focus on jython, but now it's being moved forward kinda slow. I'm looking forward to jython 2.4. You're right, swing is great. wxpy is also wonderfu but it's so lack of docs. I mainly work on windows so I use p4d(python for delphi), I use delphi f

Re: How to determine that if a folder is empty?

On 8/8/05, Peter Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > could ildg wrote: > > I want to check if a folder named "foldername" is empty. > > I use os.listdir(foldername)==[] to do this, > > but it will be very slow if the folder has a lot of sub-files. > > Is there any efficient ways to do this? > > I'

Python Project (sigh with Java)

I know you may frown at my use at java, but this is a pretty simple way to create GUIs quickly, using Java's swing. I have some code for an approach for integrating the swing GUI components and python. I threw the project together in a couple of days, so it is not some massive application. A

Re: Decline and fall of scripting languages ?

Well, I tried sending this via email, but I can't derive a valid address from Paul's anti-spammed address. My apologies to the rest of you for this. Paul Rubin writes: > Should that bother me? I should say, my interest in Ocaml or Haskell > is not just to try out somet

Re: Python -- (just) a successful experiment?

Peter Decker wrote: > On 8/8/05, Robert Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>What I'm trying to say is that posting to c.l.py is absolutely >>ineffective in achieving that goal. Code attracts people that like to >>code. Tedious, repetitive c.l.py threads attract people that like to >>write tedious,

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Adding custom widgets to Qt Designer

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Re: PEP: Specialization Syntax

Bengt Richter wrote: > On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 16:18:50 -0400, Nicolas Fleury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>I wrote the PEP to see if was the only one that would benefit from >>generic types *before* having optional static typing in the language. >> >>It seems I'm the only one;) >> >>According to blog

Re: PEP: Specialization Syntax

On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 00:14:25 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bengt Richter) wrote: [...] >Here is a decorator object to set up function call dispatch according to type. >It only uses positional arguments, but could be fleshed out, I think. >Not tested beyond what you see ;-) > >< typedispatcher.py >---

Re: PEP: Specialization Syntax

On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 16:18:50 -0400, Nicolas Fleury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Bengt Richter wrote: >> On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 21:41:33 -0400, Nicolas Fleury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>I mean should angle brackets <> like in C++, or another operator, be >>>used instead? >> >> I am getting the fee

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP-343 - Context Managment variant

falcon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's idea was token from Ruby. But I think, good idea is good whatever it > came from. > It can be not Pythonic. Just because something may be a good idea, doesn't mean that the idea is Pythonic. The only person who can truely say is Guido, but you can gain s

Re: issues with doctest and threads

[Michele Simionato] > I am getting a strange error with this script: > > $ cat doctest-threads.py > """ > >>> import time, threading > >>> def example(): > ... thread.out = [] > ... while thread.running: > ... time.sleep(.01) > ... thread.out.append(".") > >>> thread = threa

Re: python for microcontrollers

Paul Rubin wrote: > I don't think you want to do this. Runtime type tags and the overhead > of checking them on every operation will kill you all by themselves. > Processors like that haven't been used much as Lisp targets either, > for the same reasons. Pick a different language. I was thinking

Re: Splitting a string into groups of three characters

William Park wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>Is there a function that split a string into groups, containing an "x" >>amount of characters? >> >>Ex. >>TheFunction("Hello World",3) >> >>Returns: >> >>['Hell','o W','orl','d'] >> >> >>Any reply would be truly apprec

Re: python for microcontrollers

How about just helping this project: http://pyastra.sourceforge.net/ I know he's trying to rewrite it to work across multiple uC's (AVR,msp430 etc) HTH, Guy Evil Bastard wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm currently tackling the problem of implementing a python to assembler > compiler for PIC 18Fxxx mic

Re: python for microcontrollers

Evil Bastard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yes, this approach sucks. But can anyone offer any suggestions which > suck less? I don't think you want to do this. Runtime type tags and the overhead of checking them on every operation will kill you all by themselves. Processors like that haven't been

Re: Splitting a string into groups of three characters

I guess this question has already been thouroughly answered but here is my version: def split(string,n): outlist=[] for bottom in range(0,len(string),n): top=min(bottom+n,len(string)) outlist.append(string[bottom:top]) return outlist On 8/8/05, William Park <[EMAIL

Re: Decline and fall of scripting languages ?

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul Rubin wrote: ... > I notice that Haskell strings are character lists, i.e. at least > conceptually, "hello" takes the equivalent of five cons cells. Do > real implementations (i.e. GHC) actually work like that? If so, that's > enoug

Re: Decline and fall of scripting languages ?

Donn Cave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On the contrary, there are a couple. Ghc is probably the > leading implementation these days, and by any reasonable > measure, it is serious. > > Objective CAML is indeed not a pure functional language. *cough* unsafePerformIO *cough* Cheers, mwh -- M

Re: python for microcontrollers

Evil Bastard wrote: > Benji York wrote: >>Perhaps porting Pyrex would be easier. > Pyrex totally rocks. But for the PIC targetting, no can do: ... > Any other suggestions? Yes, port Lua instead. Lua is pretty much designed for this sort of application, and is probably "Pythonic" enough to pro

Re: Syntax error after upgrading to Python 2.4

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 05:15:22PM -0400, Terry Reedy wrote: >> In any case letting developers add new features is part of the price of >> getting unpaid bug fixes for free software. But note that PSF does not >> make you to upgrade. Here is the current list of poss

Re: Why does __init__ not get called?

Uh... are you actually trying to instantiate this class? mydate = DateTime(2005, 8, 8) The reason I ask is that __init__ /is/ called when I run your code on Python 2.4, provided that the above line is added to the end. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python for microcontrollers

Benji York wrote: > Perhaps porting Pyrex would be easier. Pyrex takes a python-like syntax > (plus type information, etc.) and emits C, which is then compiled. Pyrex totally rocks. But for the PIC targetting, no can do: - pyrex generates a **LOT** of code, which makes extensive use of the py

Why does __init__ not get called?

I'm still working on my DateTime class from last week... Why does __init__ not get called? The docs at http://www.python.org/dev/doc/devel/ref/customization.html read "If __new__() returns an instance of cls, then the new instance's __init__() method will be invoked" and as far as I can tell cls i

Re: python for microcontrollers

Evil Bastard wrote: > I'm currently tackling the problem of implementing a python to assembler > compiler for PIC 18Fxxx microcontrollers Perhaps porting Pyrex would be easier. Pyrex takes a python-like syntax (plus type information, etc.) and emits C, which is then compiled. -- Benji York --

python for microcontrollers

Hi all, I'm currently tackling the problem of implementing a python to assembler compiler for PIC 18Fxxx microcontrollers, and thought I'd open it up publicly for suggestions before I embed too many mistakes in the implementation. The easy part is getting the ast, via compiler.ast. Also easy is g

Re: Python -- (just) a successful experiment?

Bengt Richter wrote: > It occurs to me that we have the PEP process for core python, but no PEP > process > for the python app/lib environment. What about starting a PEEP process > (Python Environment Enhancement Proposals) modeled on PEPs, where those > motivated > to formalize their pet projec

Re: Splitting a string into groups of three characters

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a function that split a string into groups, containing an "x" > amount of characters? > > Ex. > TheFunction("Hello World",3) > > Returns: > > ['Hell','o W','orl','d'] > > > Any reply would be truly appreciated. Look into 're' mo

Re: OT: World's largest Python caught!:)

Hi All-- James Stroud wrote: > > http://www.afghania.com/News-article-sid-4792-mode-thread.html > > 3rd hit in google with "world's largest python". The first two hits were your > email below to the newsgroups. > This hit says it's not the world's largest: http://www.reptilia.org/NEWS.htm An

Re: PEP: Specialization Syntax

Bengt Richter wrote: > On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 21:41:33 -0400, Nicolas Fleury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>I mean should angle brackets <> like in C++, or another operator, be >>used instead? > > I am getting the feeling that your PEP is about a means to do something > C++-like > in python, not nece

Re: Splitting a string into groups of three characters

Another solution derived from an old discussion about the same problem? def takeBy(s, n):     import itertools     list(''.join(x) for x in itertools.izip(*[iter(s)]*n)) (Hoping len(s) % n = 0) CyrilOn 8 Aug 2005 11:04:31 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:Yes i know i made a mi

Re: Making a timebomb

Peter Hansen wrote: > Cantankerous Old Git wrote: > >> Peter Hansen wrote: >> >>> Cantankerous Old Git wrote: >>> The dirty way, which can leave corrupt half-written files and other nasties, is something like sys.exit(). >>> >>> >>> sys.exit() won't help you if your server is running in

Re: Python -- (just) a successful experiment?

On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 16:58:40 GMT, Bengt Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It occurs to me that we have the PEP process for core python, but no PEP > process > for the python app/lib environment. What about starting a PEEP process > (Python Environment Enhancement Proposals) modeled on

Re: Fat and happy Pythonistas (was Re: Replacement forkeyword'global' good idea? ...)

On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 23:52:40 -0400, "Terry Reedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >"Bengt Richter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> I think the relationship of abstract entities and their concrete >> representations >> is very interesting. > >ditto > >> BTW, maybe this

Re: Decline and fall of scripting languages ?

Donn Cave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I'm not sure what you mean by that about OCAML. That its functional > > model is not pure enough? I'd like to look at Haskell as well, but I > > have the impression that its implementation is not as serious as > > OCaml's, i.e. no native-code compiler. >

Re: Decline and fall of scripting languages ?

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul Rubin wrote: > "Donn Cave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > My vote would be Haskell first, then other functional languages. > > Learning FP with Objective CAML is like learning to swim in a > > wading pool -- you won't drown, but the

sample script to write results of html scrape to mysql db?

does anyone have a sample script that writes results of html scraping to a mysql db? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python framework

>what's the best python framework to create web applications? Let us try a different question: what is the best way to get help from a newsgroup? Step 1: do some research. Read throught the past postings still available on your newssource for threads on your topic. And/or, use Google's news

Re: OT: World's largest Python caught!:)

http://www.afghania.com/News-article-sid-4792-mode-thread.html 3rd hit in google with "world's largest python". The first two hits were your email below to the newsgroups. James On Sunday 07 August 2005 09:15 pm, Ashok Rajasingh wrote: > Hi > > > > Can I please get some information on this pyth

Re: gettext again

On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 17:39:34 +0200, cantabile wrote: > BTW stasz, > Maybe you'll have still some time for the following question. Trying my > luck :)) > > Suppose I have several units (.py files), say test.py test1.py tets2.py > , test.py being my main file. > I've read I can import gettext and

Re: Splitting a string into groups of three characters

Yes i know i made a mistake, >['Hell','o W','orl','d'] but you know what I mean lol, I'll probly use John Machin's def nsplit(s, n): return [s[k:k+n] for k in xrange(0, len(s), n)] It seems fast, and does not require any imports. But anyways, thank you for all your help, you rock! :) --

Re: Splitting a string into groups of three characters

Yes i know i made a mistake, >['Hell','o W','orl','d'] but you know what I mean lol, I'll probly use John Machin's def nsplit(s, n): return [s[k:k+n] for k in xrange(0, len(s), n)] It seems fast, and does not require any imports. But anyways, thank you for all your help, you rpck! :) --

Re: Python -- (just) a successful experiment?

That's it: got to get the PEEPs involved. Acronym of the year (AOTY). -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Is there a better/simpler logging module?

Alessandro Bottoni wrote: > I just tried to use the python standard logging module in a small program > and I found myself lost among all those features, all those configuration > options and so on. If you don't want to mess with all this stuff it's easy enough to do: import logging logging.warn

Re: gettext again

On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 17:01:21 +0200, cantabile wrote: > stasz a écrit : > Wht ! Working at last, after three days... It wasn't the LANG param [...] > Anyways, you made my day my friend ! > Many many thanks ! Your welcome :-) Stas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PEP: Specialization Syntax

On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 21:41:33 -0400, Nicolas Fleury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Bengt Richter wrote: [...] >> But here the problem is not in the __getitem__ method: >> >> >>> c.__getitem__(kw='key word arg') >> (<__main__.C object at 0x02EF498C>, (), {'kw': 'key word arg'}) >> >> It's just that

Re: PEP: Specialization Syntax

Kay Schluehr wrote: > I have to admit that i don't actually understand what you want? The > problems you try to solve seem trivial to me but it's probably my fault > and i'm misreading something. You might be correct that your PEP may be > interesting only if "optional static typing" will be introd

Re: Python -- (just) a successful experiment?

Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The second presentation (I don't recall the speaker's name) specifically > covered metaprogramming (writing DSLs) and one of the things I found > interesting was that despite Ruby having far more syntax than Python in > general, the resulting Ruby-based DSL

Re: Python -- (just) a successful experiment?

"Kay Schluehr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Having a good FFI is certainly an important feature but Python > > programs should first and foremost be Python programs. > > Python was originally created as an extension language for C. In some > sense it is an abstraction layer for C libs. I'd hav

Re: How to determine that if a folder is empty?

Mike Meyer wrote: > Just out of curiosity, is there an OS out there where you can have the > permissions needed to delete a directory without having the > permissions needed to create it appropriately? Not an OS, but AFS has a wider set of permissions (RLIDWKA - which, if I remember correctly, ar

Re: Python -- (just) a successful experiment?

On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 00:51:04 -0800, "EP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Robert Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Which is exactly why I said at the beginning that people shouldn't = > >> bother with this thread and should instead just get to work. >> = > > > >Robert, you are probably right, but I t

Re: Python -- (just) a successful experiment?

Eric Pederson wrote: > Raise your hand if you think the best technology wins! > Those who have raised hands should google for "worse is better"... -- bruno desthuilliers python -c "print '@'.join(['.'.join([w[::-1] for w in p.split('.')]) for p in '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'.split('@')])" -- http://ma

Re: How to determine that if a folder is empty?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > On standard Unix fileystems, one way to check for this is to check that the > st_nlink of the directory is 2. In that case you only know that the directory doesn't have any subdirectories. It may still contain ordinary files and other non-directories. Bernhard -

Re: GUI programming, embedding, real time plots, etc.

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Madhusudan Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. In using matplotlib (my code essentially involved creating a plot and > show()'ing it inside a loop), the color of the plot changed. Is there a way > to tell matplotlib to not treat each new invocation as a new plot,

Re: PEP: Specialization Syntax

On 8 Aug 2005 02:26:40 -0700, Kay Schluehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I have to admit that i don't actually understand what you want? Me neither. I don't see the point of this. -- Email: zen19725 at zen dot co dot uk -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Is there a better/simpler logging module?

If you need some simple logging why not create a logger like one of the basic examples, see http://docs.python.org/lib/minimal-example.html, these examples are not that complex. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Python framework

hi ! what's the best python framework to create web applications?     -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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Re: gettext again

BTW stasz, Maybe you'll have still some time for the following question. Trying my luck :)) Suppose I have several units (.py files), say test.py test1.py tets2.py , test.py being my main file. I've read I can import gettext and install in the main unit. Then, must I create .po files for each u

Is there a better/simpler logging module?

I just tried to use the python standard logging module in a small program and I found myself lost among all those features, all those configuration options and so on. Is there any better/simpler logging module around? What do you use for logging in your programs? Thanks in advance. --

RE: Terminate a thread that doesn't check for events

Thank you for the help Chris and Jp. Just wanted to let you know that I re-wrote a "stoppable" version of the function I was calling in the thread instead of forcing the thread to terminate. I think it worth the effort as the solution is now clean and portable. Thanks again for all your input. L

Re: How to determine that if a folder is empty?

On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 09:03:39 -0400, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just out of curiosity, is there an OS out there where you can have the > permissions needed to delete a directory without having the > permissions needed to create it appropriately? Depending on your definition of "out th

Re: gettext again

stasz a écrit : > Your steps seems alright. > Just a thought; you do start test1.py from a [EMAIL PROTECTED] > environment do you? > I mean in a xterm do: export [EMAIL PROTECTED] > And then start test1.py from there. > > Stas Wht ! Working at last, after three days... It wasn't the LANG par

Extending and altering httplib to handle bad servers

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Re: Decline and fall of scripting languages ?

Paul Rubin wrote: > Ruby just doesn't interest me that much though (maybe I'm missing > something). I don't think you are. My impression is that if you've never used Python or Ruby, you'll generally end up liking whichever of the two you really discover first (since the common case is that you'r

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Re: Python -- (just) a successful experiment?

On 8/8/05, Robert Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I'm trying to say is that posting to c.l.py is absolutely > ineffective in achieving that goal. Code attracts people that like to > code. Tedious, repetitive c.l.py threads attract people that like to > write tedious, repetitive c.l.py threa

Re: Embedding a runtime graph in Qt3 designer generated UI

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Re: Python -- (just) a successful experiment?

On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 06:55 -0700, Paul Boddie wrote: > Eric Pederson wrote: > > Why is Ruby, and Ruby on Rails, getting such strong play? > > Relentless hype from blogging celebrities? This is certainly part of it, but I feel it ignores the much deeper reasons which are the root of this hype. I

Re: Python -- (just) a successful experiment?

Paul Rubin schrieb: > Having a good FFI is certainly an important feature but Python > programs should first and foremost be Python programs. Python was originally created as an extension language for C. In some sense it is an abstraction layer for C libs. > Compare the > situation with Java or

Re: Oreilly CodeZoo

richard wrote: > We (PyPI / Cheese Shop developers) are talking to the CodeZoo people about > the relationship between the two systems. Things PyPI has: > > 1. python setup.py register > 2. python setup.py (sdist|bdist|bdist_egg|bdist_wininst|...) upload > 3. http://cheeseshop.python.org/ > 4. be

Re: gettext again

On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 02:56:35 +0200, cantabile wrote: > stasz a écrit : >> On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 21:33:21 +0200, cantabile wrote: >> >> >>>stasz a écrit : >>> On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 11:09:14 +0200, cantabile wrote: >Hi, >I'm failing to make it work but can't find out what's

Re: How to determine that if a folder is empty?

James Dennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Reinhold Birkenfeld wrote: > >> could ildg wrote: >> >>>I want to check if a folder named "foldername" is empty. >>>I use os.listdir(foldername)==[] to do this, >>>but it will be very slow if the folder has a lot of sub-files. >>>Is there any efficient wa

PyQt: Problem finding and showing a record in a QDataBrowser

[I've also posted this to pyqt-pykde list, but I haven't got any answers so far. I also thought that someone here might have solved it or have a different idea to help me :-) Sorry for those that read it twice. ] Hi. I have created an interface where I have a QDataBrowser and all of its editin

Re: listing users in Plone

plz let me know the proper google group -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: IronPython 0.9 Released

could ildg wrote: > Why is iron python runs so fast but jython runs so slow while C# and > java seem very much the same? I've been playing with Ironpython since its first release and, in my experience, it is not faster than Cpython, although this is what they claim. Anyway, it is in alpha stage s

Re: Decline and fall of scripting languages ?

phil wrote: >>Kay Schluehr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >>: No good news for scripting-language fans: >> >>: http://www.phpmag.net/itr/news/psecom,id,23284,nodeid,113.html >> >> >> > >What incredible horse dooey. > >The only thing that NEVER "penetrates the enterprise space" >is good sense. > >D

Re: How to determine that if a folder is empty?

could ildg wrote: > I want to check if a folder named "foldername" is empty. > I use os.listdir(foldername)==[] to do this, > but it will be very slow if the folder has a lot of sub-files. > Is there any efficient ways to do this? I'm just curious to know under what circumstances where it's import

Re: zipped socket

John wrote: > > Is there anyway open a socket so that every send/listen/recv > goes thru a zipping/unzipping process automatically? You ought to be able to do this easily by wrapping a bz2 compressor around the socket (maybe using socket.makefile() to return a file object first) and probably us

Re: issues with doctest and threads

I don't see the problem with your doctest usage, but what makes you believe that the code you show below produces exactly 9 dots? strangely enough, re-working the code to this >>> import time, threading >>> def example(): ... thread.out = [] ... for i in range(9): thread.out.append(".") >>

Re: Python -- (just) a successful experiment?

Paul Rubin wrote: > I dunno about PyGTK but one of the more common complaints about > wxPython is that it's not Pythonic enough. And wxPython is probably > the most popular Python GUI toolkit after Tkinter. So people don't > want C wrappers. I think what they mostly want is a wide choice of > go

Re: How to determine that if a folder is empty?

Reinhold Birkenfeld wrote: > could ildg wrote: > >>I want to check if a folder named "foldername" is empty. >>I use os.listdir(foldername)==[] to do this, >>but it will be very slow if the folder has a lot of sub-files. >>Is there any efficient ways to do this? > > > try: > os.rmdir(path) >

Re: How to determine that if a folder is empty?

On standard Unix fileystems, one way to check for this is to check that the st_nlink of the directory is 2. However, even on Unix systems this isn't guaranteed for all filesystem types. Of course, finding whether a directory is empty is inherently racy: a file could be created between the time yo

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