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access.ignore_usual = true
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>> Hi,
>>
>> My first mailing list post, as this really puzzles me. I'd like to use a
>> short format for displaying HTTP requests in deve
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>
> Any ideas how to solve this?
I didn't like using middleware so I made a Pyramid tween that logs
requests. I don't have the code with me but I can get it tomorrow.
After calling the applicaiton I make a log message based on the
response
n, I couldn't find enough pluses to switch to it, and
my codeveloper couldn't either.
Still, it would be nice to have something cleaner than INI and
PasteDeploy in Pyramid's default, but I also don't know what would be
a good candidate for that.
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> seems to be not bad :D.
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d tuples, while Durus just appends until you pack.
Redis is probably the most useful for counters and updating timestamps
because it can change memory in place.
So it all comes down to the nature of your data and what you want to
do with it, whether a SQL database or object database or key-valu
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> a question 2) My understand of authentication is so lackluster that my
> question is irrelevant to begin with. Having said that, I will ask away:
>
> I was hoping
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Jon Rosebaugh wrote:
> Around last December, I got annoyed with the way PasteDeploy combines the
> INI file parsing with the WSGI object loading. INI files are awfully clumsy
> and there are many alternatives that offer features such as lists and nested
> dicts, b
> I've encountered one particular difficulty with pshell and other Pyramid
> scripts: Montague allows a config file to have more than one logging config,
> which means I've combined development.ini and production.ini into a single
> config.toml. pserve lets you specify which app and server to load
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> INI file parsing with the WSGI object loading. INI files are awfully clumsy
> and there are many alternatives that offer features such as lists and nested
> dicts, b
On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Harvey Smith wrote:
> Currently in Pyramid v1.5a2 one cannot easily loop over a list of routes to
> generate the URLs (for example to generate a nav menu) if some of the routes
> are external and one wished to use URL paths instead of qualified URLs
> (easier to se
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>
> My name is Michael Zhang, and I am very new to Pyramid. I have a quick
> question in designing a large web application backend, and hope the
> community can help me out. I really appreciate your help. It helps me to
> learn and g
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>> The thing is, WebHelpers has always tried to avoid dependencies so
>> that it can be used in the widest variety of use
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>> Maybe I should just ask the list: is lxml suitable as a tag generator
>> for webhelpers2.html? Or is it too big for a general-purpose library,
>> not everyone of whi
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:46 AM, Mike Orr wrote:
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>>
>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 23:04 , Mike Orr wrote:
>>
>> I'm thinking about rewriting the low-level HTML tag generator in
>> WebHelpers2, and wonderi
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> On Jun 28, 2013, at 23:04 , Mike Orr wrote:
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> I'm thinking about rewriting the low-level HTML tag generator in
> WebHelpers2, and wondering if there's an existing library that would be
> worth using in t
to py.test, the
Python 3 port, and some small reorganizations. The online docs don't
yet mention the list arguments or the underscore to hyphen conversion
(for data-foo).
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> On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Marius Gedminas wrote:
>> O
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>> I'd also like feedback on another idea. I'm thinking about adding arguments
>> to build up the class attribute and style attribute piecemeal:
>&g
valid in attribute names.
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>
> On Friday, June 28, 2013 5:04:08 PM UTC-4, Mike Orr wrote:
>>
>>
>> Are there any other syntactic sugar patterns that would be helpful in a
>> Javascript-rich or HTML
so since HTML doesn't define "styles"
and "classes", and is unlikely to because of user confusion.) Is there a
better API? Are there any other attributes where this would be useful on?
Are there any other syntactic sugar patterns that would be helpful in a
Javascript-rich or HT
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> Could we simply remove this? Does a user need to know which exact alpha (or
> beta) release an API was added? I think such detail is a bit of overkill for
> 'versionadded' Sphinx directives; it's better left in VCS history.
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> ok: add
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nting to "myapp:static". That provides a
place for all static files to go, without the developer having to
define a view and a directory. You can of course have multiple static
directories for different purposes.
The fastest way to serve static files in production, is to arrange for
t
layed when you go to the
repository, but that doesn't help when you're going down the list of
repositories and don't want to open all of them.
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I usually delete them immediately, but when I started I was reluctant
to because I didn't know which ones I might want to use or refer to.
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> configuration takes place when you use "paster serve". If you don't use
> "paster serve", it doesnt happen.
"paster serve" does the equivalent of:
import logging.config
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>> OK, but there's such a thing as view support methods, code that's
>> common to several views so it doesn't have to be repeated in all of
>> them. That
get("id"))
# Private methods
def _process_id(self, id_str):
if id_str is None or not id_str.isdigit():
abort(400, "query param 'id' missing")
id = str(id)
self.record = model.Something.get(id)
if self.record is None:
error and the
user raise it explicitly.
raise redirect(location)
raise abort(N, message=None)
Or they could be capitalized to appear more like class constructors:
raise Redirect(location)
raise Abort(N, message=None)
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allow it than to take steps to prevent it. I could see how it could be
a "feature" in a few cases. And again, Python doesn't seem to be
overly concerned with what you raise. The move against string
exceptions was to mak
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, but otherwise it's like, "Oh, nice, it found
something. That doesn't tell me what it's going to do with it." I
think that's a shortcoming of the HTTP status: it should have been
called 'Redirect' rather than 'Found'.
BTW, I mentioned a few days
the libraries themselves. Additionally,
> you'll have to dig into a fork [4] to see demonstrations of WSGI1
> compatibility in marrow.server.http. The adapter [5] is simple, and likely
> incomplete, but functional.
I'm probably sounding redundant here, but only those who are
especia
;> > 99 prefix = '&'
>> > 100 else:
>> > 101 if v.__class__ is unicode:
>> > 102 v = v.encode('utf-8')
>> > if v:
>> > 103 v = quote_pl
ases. So a lot of your work will be
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ilders, but not much with the Zope-style interfaces or
traversal. So I'm fine with anything database-y but if it involves ZCA
or garbage collection or packet tracing, I'd probably want to call in
the experts. Anyway, it helps to know up front what kinds of tasks a
student can jump right
ions on -devel in the alpha days of Pyramid, to
prevent Pyramid questions from confusing Pylons users. That's where
all the confusion between the lists came from. That's over now.
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Have you tried pyramid_simpeform? It's a different interface than
@validate but it seems to be becoming the most common on on Pyramid.
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>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Ben Bangert wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> We sure can! In fact, several of us have the commit rights needed. :)
>&g
Update: I found a way to check for the exact exception reported, which
was common to the Sprox failure and other unsliceable failures
("TypeError: unhashable type"). So I can at least raise the
incompatible message so users will know what's going on.
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:
t check
whether .__getitem__ accepts a slice without calling it and guessing
what the exception means, and calling it may cause side effects (like
a db query).
So if y'all can make sure you're satisfied with it, I'll release beta
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cause the term was just too cumbersome, but I never thought
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>> "Template" has been a problem for years. Even if people can figure it
>> out, it's cumbersome to write in documentation and tutorials where you
>> have t
ut, it's cumbersome to write in documentation and tutorials where you
have to explain that a template (skeleton) is not a template (file)
although some of its files are templates. And the phrase "application
template" is long and cumbersome when you have to repeat it many
times.
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>>> This issue has been previously discussed, I just wanted to make sure
>>> that e
7;s probably what everybody does anyway, right?
No, because the project name and package name is built into the
structure, so reusing an existing app would mean making a lot of
fundamental changes to it.
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bhelpers/changeset/556b55e75dd6#chg_webhelpers/paginate.py_newline215
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Oh, that should be .__getslice__ . Maybe that's causing some of the
SQLAlchemy complications (but not all of them).
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Yes. I already did that in the Akhet manual but I had to introduce it
with "template" and use "template" in the PyPI description for ppl who
might not recognize it. The sooner we can get away from "template"
completely, the better.
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been patches to add PyMongo, CouchDB, and
now Sprox to paginate, but we can't add everything. Better to go with
autonomous helper classes. But this is a longer-term project, it's not
something I can do right now. Christoph, what do you think?
https://bitbucket.org/bbangert/webhelpers/issue
> ++ self.items = list(self.collection)[self.first_item-1:self.last_item]
In other words, different users have contradictory desires. Should I
revert #59 and change it to WONTFIX, or is there a way to reconcile
these two? Or is this a reason to overhaul how paginate handles lists
vs queries overal
GSOC. I have spoken to Whit
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> re-factoring Paste(serve and create) could be my project. Any
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REST on your own. Yes, there needs to be an official way to do
it.
You can also use the request_param route predicate to check the
_method param directly.
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> On Mar 13, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Mike Orr wrote:
>> - Replace the INI file with an YAML file?
>
> YAML is not as good as it can be for config file format:
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> * It has slow parsers
serve" both are necessary. People are always
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> There exists a package called alacarte which offers a back-end agnostic
> templating interface. It already supports Mako, Jinja2, and a handful of
> others, including serialization formats like JSON, Bencode, and YAML. It
> was built to replace the ancient (and crufty) Tur
dvantages may be outweighing its advantages. YAML can
express all the things ppl wish the config file had. It can also
express a full ZCA configuration, which would allow the same file to
do app configuration, logging, and component configuration without
using ZCML. That's what Marco was, a Y
are more properly dependencies of the specific
applications which are using them.
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quest (400). It's a client error
if the token is incorrect, not a server error. Otherwise it gives the
impression that a bug made the server crash, and the server logs will
say that too so you can't count how many hack attempts vs genuine
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>> he's kind of gotten burned out on Python as a whole for various
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>> I'll be at PyCon and would like to sprint on this. Maybe a tutorial
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be more resistance to
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application if you're using it, whereas ZCML is "just zis
configuration format, y'know". [voice of Zaphod Beeblebrox's
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tion templates recommend.
There have been calls over the years to replace Paster, but no clear
idea on what to replace it with, or assurance that anything else would
be sufficiently better. Paste's creator, Ian Bicking, has been
spinning off packages out of Paste (WebOb, WebError), and expects
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>> Hi all,
>> I am joining this community because of an interest in Pyramid -- about which
>> I had posted an issue in the pylons-devel list. Now I notice that that list
>&g
artificial and rigid to use for data
services. You see that especially in repoze.who/what, which are overly
complex partly because of their middleware nature, and to an extent
Routes too. Generic reusable code is a good thing but it doesn't have
to be middleware. The various form libraries are
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Mike Orr wrote:
>>> 2) The user would have to pass in the name of the primary key field.
>>
>> To where?
>
> To the Page constructor. It has to know which field to look at to
> determine what the last primary key value was.
Er, i
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Chris Withers wrote:
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>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Mike Orr wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Paginate works with Pyramid, with the caveat that if you use the
>>&
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Mike Orr wrote:
>>> Can't we have a default pyramid generator (and well, webob based
>>> frameworks) in WebHelpers who use the request.path to generate the url
>>> ?
>>>
>>> So you can use Page.pager(request=req
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>> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Mike Orr wrote:
>>> Paginate works with Pyramid, with the caveat that if you use the
>>> Page.pager() method, you have
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easier to both use the object and traverse through it. Could
ArchiveYear and ArchiveMonth be made into Folder subclasses to factor
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>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Chris McDonough wrote:
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>>> - Paster templates and tutorials now use tabs instead of spaces in their
>>> HTML
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ods on the model) which the view calls,
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if the other PUT style was used. So maybe they should do ``if
self.request.method != 'GET':`` instead, although that raises the
possibility that the method may be entirely unexpected ('DELETE'
instead of 'PUT'), in which case again the result is wrong. (It
*should*
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>> >> config.add_view(some_method)
>> >> config.add_view(some_method_PUT, request_me
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> is POST and the actual method is in a '_method' param? it's not really
> a form library issue because you'd want it uniform across all
>
s make the routes less straightforward (they show the
low-level details rather than the high-level intention). If the
application is expecting both tunneled PUT and direct PUT, it will
have to accomodate both possibilities. And views will also have to
handle tunneled PUT themselves because it won
beyond me why someone would try to be emulating a
> "REST client" when using a browser, as the access patterns and expected
> responses for REST APIs are dramatically different than those of a user
> using a browser (authentication is usually different, usually REST
> methods
How does Pyramid handle HTTP method tunneling? Where the formal method
is POST and the actual method is in a '_method' param? it's not really
a form library issue because you'd want it uniform across all
libraries. How does Pylons do it? Is it in WebOb? Is it something we
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On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> On 2011-1-20 19:49, Mike Orr wrote:
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>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Eric Lemoine
>> wrote:
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>>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Wichert Akkerman
>>> wrote:
>>>>
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pypi/pyramid_sqla/0.1>.
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> <https://bytebucket.org/sluggo/pyramid_sqla/wiki/html/index.html>
Bitbucket doesn't have a good place for documentation so I put it in
the project wiki. Static files in the wiki have this different URL
(bytebucket.org). I may set up a site on docs.pyth
; http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid_handlers/dev/#setup
>
> Once this step is accomplished, config.add_handler will
> work again.
Released pyramid_sqla 0.2 to reflect this.
Applications made with pyramid_sqla 0.1 will not work with 1.0a10
until you apply this change.
--
Mike Orr
view that look almost the
same. It's like one could go to either URL? What's the purpose of
this, and how does it handle the case of failed validation?
Anyway, if you have any ideas on what should be in the Pyramid-Pylons
form howto (which will probably be the Pyramid form howto too,
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