On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:11 AM, mjmein <mjmeint...@gmail.com> wrote: > One also just needs to define what the ultimate goal is: > > Is it to compete with Django/Rails? In that case I agree that alot of > work needs > to be done on simplifying and removing options. The power of Django/ > Rails are that > they provide one way of doing things that works in the most cases. The > problem is > that it is very difficult if you want to go outside the constraints > imposed by them.
Pyramid has several simultaneous goals. It definitely has the niche in traversal-style and component-style apps, and as the only one in that area besides Zope. It has also pulled in Pylons and TurboGears users who highly value mix-and-match interoperability and leveraging third-party tools. In that sense it's a medium-level framework (Pylons-like) with the potential to host high-level frameworks (TurboGears-like). There is also some interest in providing an alternative to Django, and in gaining market share among Python-web frameworks and all web frameworks. But it's not an overriding interest; it's just something that would be nice to have. Pylons never did marketing well for two reasons. One, the core developers aren't talented marketers. Two, we were busy finishing Pylons 1, and then we immediately finished Pyramid 1 back-to-back. That didn't leave much extra time for marketing or for focusing on the website. Now that Pyramid 1 is finished, we can take a step back and look at some areas we've neglected; e.g., marketing and tutorials. I say "we", although in reality Ben is busy with his clients' sites, I'm plowing through three Pyramid add-ons, and for all I know Chris is working on his own clients' sites, and who knows what others are doing. Still, it's worth discussing how the Pylons Project as a whole can improve on marketing, documentation, and handholding (new users through the process of building their first site). I have a friend who is a marketer and supports the Pylons Project, but he's kind of gotten burned out on Python as a whole for various reasons so he can't quite be a full marketing advisor. Is there anyone else with marketing-type experience who would like to stand up? -- Mike Orr <sluggos...@gmail.com> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pylons-devel" group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-devel@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-devel?hl=en.
