Re: A few things who still suck in RedHat 8 aka constructive criticism

2002-11-23 Thread David Durst
Great. Not to be a dick but. I think RH has done a great thing for the overall MARKET in 8.0. But what RH needs to remember and I think what I see you are angry at is that 8.0 is not for you and not for the typical LINUX user. But by no means is 8.0 NOT Linux, in fact I think it is the embodiment

Creating Bootable Installation CD

2002-11-23 Thread Arjun Karkal Prabhu
Title: Message Dear folks,   I recently downloaded RH 8 (Psyche) release from one of my friend..and i burnt the CDs.   The problem was, the CD was not bootable. Anyway, i used the boot image /images/boot.img found on disk 1 to create a boot disk (floppy), and installed RH 8 on my machine  

Re: A few things who still suck in RedHat 8 aka constructive criticism

2002-11-23 Thread Marco Fioretti
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 00:31:01 at 12:31:01AM -0800, David Durst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > I think to appease more users RH needs to come out w/ a TECHNICAL & > NON-TECHNICAL distribution. > David, I agree with you, but one can already have a "TECHNICAL" RH 8.0 distribution, as you call it. I

Re: A few things who still suck in RedHat 8 aka constructivecriticism

2002-11-23 Thread Jean Francois Martinez
On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 08:03, Warren Togami wrote: > Jean Francois Martinez wrote: > > 1) Better package management: At last we got an RPM front end who > > Use apt-get and Synaptic for better package management. Find this and > many other tips on my Red Hat 8.0 Tips & Tricks page. > > http://

Re: A few things who still suck in RedHat 8 aka constructive criticism

2002-11-23 Thread Marco Fioretti
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 11:42:46 at 11:42:46AM +0100, Jean Francois Martinez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > Plese. I do not want the problem solved for myself I want > solved for everyone and that means a native form. Why can't that "native form" be "completely intgrate apt-get for

Re: A few things who still suck in RedHat 8 aka constructive criticism

2002-11-23 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Marco Fioretti wrote: >> Plese. I do not want the problem solved for myself I want >> solved for everyone and that means a native form. > >Why can't that "native form" be "completely intgrate apt-get for RPM >and synaptic" in standard Red Hat? If you wan't Debian,

Re: DELL Optiplex GX260 / 1702FP monitor / Intel i845 video...

2002-11-23 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Ken Kleiner wrote: >X11 doesn't seem to want to work on our latest DELL GX260 with a >DELL Flat panel screen. > > The system has a Intel i845 card in it, which the OS sees fine, and works >well with a DELL 21" tube monitor (X and text). > > We've tried plugging in a DELL F

Re: DELL Optiplex GX260 / 1702FP monitor / Intel i845 video... FIX

2002-11-23 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Stephen Mah wrote: >Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:53:45 -0800 >From: Stephen Mah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed >List-Id: Discussion of Red Hat Linux 8.0 (Psyche) >Subject: Re: DELL Optiplex GX260 / 1702FP mon

Re: Dist. Suggestions

2002-11-23 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, David Durst wrote: >Ok, maybe OpenLDAP does come w/ it. My mistake - but when you click >to do a FULL INSTALL it doesn't. A full install does not install every single RPM package. There is a reason for that. >And great RH doesn't support Binary Modules - you can get a >sou

Re: A few things who still suck in RedHat 8 aka constructive criticism

2002-11-23 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Rob Blomquist wrote: >Let's see, I am stuck trying to install kdeadmin and koffice from source, and >I am finding that RH has customized things so that we either have to use the >RH version of KDE, or forget it. What is wrong with the included kdeadmin and koffice that are

Re: sbin and /usr/sbin

2002-11-23 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Tommy McNeely wrote: >Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 16:32:34 -0700 >From: Tommy McNeely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed >List-Id: Discussion of Red Hat Linux 8.0 (Psyche) >Subject: sbin and /usr/sbin > > >in /etc/

RE: Creating Bootable Installation CD

2002-11-23 Thread Arjun Karkal Prabhu
Title: Message   hi all,   can anyone tell me how to create a bootable Installation CD ? (i have the RH 8 cd 1 with me, which is not bootable..)     Any help / pointers would be of great help.   regards,Arjun      -Original Message-From: Arjun Karkal Prabhu Sent: Saturday, November

Re: Creating Bootable Installation CD

2002-11-23 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Arjun Karkal Prabhu wrote: >I recently downloaded RH 8 (Psyche) release from one of my friend..and i >burnt the CDs. > >The problem was, the CD was not bootable. >Anyway, i used the boot image /images/boot.img found on disk 1 to create >a boot disk (floppy), and installed RH

RE: Creating Bootable Installation CD

2002-11-23 Thread Josep M.
Hello. Did you checked md5 sum after download? If is ok and You burned well the cd1 is bootable. Josep Begin of Quote Arjun Karkal Prabhu : > >hi all, > >can anyone tell me how to create a bootable Installation CD ? >(i have the RH 8 cd 1 with me, which is not bootable..) > > >Any help / po

RE: Creating Bootable Installation CD

2002-11-23 Thread Arjun Karkal Prabhu
Hi Actually, my friend had the Installation CD, which was bootable (on my system)... So, I used the following command To create a ISO. # mkisofs -f -iso-level=1 -J -r -T -pad -v -o CD1.ISO -V "RHcd1" /mnt/cdrom/ Now, using this CD1.ISO, which I created, I wrote the CD using Easy CD creator. -The

Re: Video Card recommendation

2002-11-23 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Markku Kolkka wrote: >Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 02:04:30 +0200 >From: Markku Kolkka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >List-Id: Discussion of Red Hat Linux 8.0 (Psyche) >Subject: Re: Video Card recommendation > >Viestis

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2002-11-23 Thread Cedric Chausson
Hello all, I'm having problems getting sound to work in Psyche. First it did'nt work at all. Then I installed Alsa and I'm getting something now but still not good. Here's the beef. I have installed alsa as per the installation rules, have modified the etc/modules.files and loaded the modules

Re: Video Card recommendation

2002-11-23 Thread Mike A. Harris
On 21 Nov 2002, Edward C. Bailey wrote: >> "Markku" == Markku Kolkka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Markku> Viestissä Keskiviikko 20. Marraskuuta 2002 13:12, Mike A. Harris >Markku> kirjoitti: >>> Again, "Built by ATI" are the only cards tested, officially supported, >>> and likely to work wit

Re: Video Card recommendation

2002-11-23 Thread Mike A. Harris
On 20 Nov 2002, Keith Winston wrote: >Date: 20 Nov 2002 19:18:09 -0500 >From: Keith Winston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Content-Type: text/plain >List-Id: Discussion of Red Hat Linux 8.0 (Psyche) >Subject: Re: Video Card recommendation > >On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 06:12, Mike A. Harri

RE: Creating Bootable Installation CD

2002-11-23 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Arjun Karkal Prabhu wrote: >Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 19:02:51 +0530 >From: Arjun Karkal Prabhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" >List-Id: Discussion of Red Hat Linux 8.0 (Psyche) >Subject: RE: Creating Bootable Ins

RE: Creating Bootable Installation CD

2002-11-23 Thread Arjun Karkal Prabhu
Dear Mike, The problem is, I don't have access to the original source CD now :( So, can u suggest some way by which I can make the CD bootable ? (creating one more cd, which is bootable) (bcoz, I already have the contents..) I don't mind trying. Its worth the effort. Also, I tried burning a bo

Re: Booting directly into init 5 skips most (all?) init scripts.

2002-11-23 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 12:18:58AM -0500, Walter Francis wrote: > This is strange, I can't figure it out, but I'm determined to get this > fixed.. Since I installed 7.3 on this laptop I've had to boot into init 3, > then init 5, otherwise all the init.d scripts don't get ran. > > To put it anot

Re: Booting directly into init 5 skips most (all?) init scripts.

2002-11-23 Thread Mike Chambers
- Original Message - From: "Aaron Konstam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 8:21 AM Subject: Re: Booting directly into init 5 skips most (all?) init scripts. For those that don't know, unless these emails are going through slowly, then the perso

A lot of sound problems bis

2002-11-23 Thread Cedric Chausson
Hello all, I'm having problems getting sound to work in Psyche. First it did'nt work at all. Then I installed Alsa and I'm getting something now but still not good. Here's the beef. I have installed alsa as per the installation rules, have modified the etc/modules.files and loaded the modules

quit whining

2002-11-23 Thread anthony baldwin
I have only been using Linux since this past spring. I decided to get invovlved in the opensource community for several reasons. 1-I am a teacher and a single parent and I just could not financially keep up with Micro$lop's mercenary upgrade schedules. 2-The principles of sharing, community supp

Re: Creating Bootable Installation CD

2002-11-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 19:27:22 +0530, Arjun Karkal Prabhu wrote: > The problem is, I don't have access to the original source CD now :( > > So, can u suggest some way by which I can make the CD bootable ? > (creating one more cd, which is bootable) > (

Re: quit whining

2002-11-23 Thread Keith Winston
On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 09:38, anthony baldwin wrote: > I have only been using Linux since this past spring. [snip] > The very few issues I still have are not Red Hat's fault: > 1-my scanner does not work in Linux. The manufacturer is to blame here. > 2-having difficulty burning music cd's. (mp3'

Re: sbin and /usr/sbin

2002-11-23 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Mike A. Harris wrote: > On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Tommy McNeely wrote: > > >in /etc/profile, I have had to comment out the "if" and "fi" lines to make > >the "sbin" paths automatically be part of a "users" path.. (like for > >traceroute)... why do I have to do this?? > > > ># P

Re: quit whining

2002-11-23 Thread Keith Winston
Oops, posted to the list. -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list

system-wide configuration for user accounts

2002-11-23 Thread Robert P. J. Day
i'm curious about how people set up system-wide config for user accounts on their hosts, as i'm designing the account admin chapter for my migration web site and i want to make sure i give good advice. once upon a time, an admin would add sys-wide stuff in /etc/profile, to affect everyone.

Re: A few things who still suck in RedHat 8 aka constructivecriticism

2002-11-23 Thread Joe Klemmer
On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 02:11, Rob Blomquist wrote: > I'm off shopping for Mandrake 9.0 tommorrow. Good luck. You might want to look at SuSE as well. -- "Khamaaa, Ham, HA!" -- Goku, 'Dragon Ball' signature.asc Description: This is a digi

Re: sbin and /usr/sbin

2002-11-23 Thread Ed Wilts
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 10:33:24AM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Mike A. Harris wrote: > > > /sbin and /usr/sbin have never been part of a user's path in > > traditional Unix and Linux systems. While some distributions may > > possibly put these directories in users path

Re: system-wide configuration for user accounts

2002-11-23 Thread Jesse Keating
On Saturday 23 November 2002 08:16, Robert P. J. Day uttered: > is this considered acceptable behavior? to just manually > toss extra files in there? it certainly is a cleaner and > more modular approach than constantly hacking /etc/profile. Yes, this is definitely how I would do it on my syst

Re: Video Card recommendation

2002-11-23 Thread Markku Kolkka
Viestissä Lauantai 23. Marraskuuta 2002 15:43, Mike A. Harris kirjoitti: > As such, if you want a good chance at having > working ATI card, then I suggest you get a "Built by ATI" card, My point was that I _can't_ buy a "Built by ATI" card because they are sold only in USA and Canada. The rest of

Re: A few things who still suck in RedHat 8 aka constructivecriticism

2002-11-23 Thread Anthony Abby
On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 11:21, Joe Klemmer wrote: > On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 02:11, Rob Blomquist wrote: > > > I'm off shopping for Mandrake 9.0 tommorrow. > > Good luck. You might want to look at SuSE as well. I switched to Mandrake 9 about a month ago and have been nothing but happy. It's

Upgrade from 7.3 to 8.0

2002-11-23 Thread antonio montagnani
I have just tried to upgrade from 7.3 to 8.0 but the procedure stopped after checking dependencies and informed us that there was error (I apologize for not taking note of which error...) and that was aborted and that I could safely reboot my machine. In the text upgrade, I got the message that

RE: Creating Bootable Installation CD (Done!)

2002-11-23 Thread Arjun Prabhu K
Hi all, Thanks a lot for the help. I got the CD to boot, And start the installation Program. Special Thanks to Michael Schwendt [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] for guiding me. Here what I did. First, copied the contents of the Non Bootable Install CD 1 to a temp directory on the HDD. Then, I gave this comman

Re: Upgrade from 7.3 to 8.0

2002-11-23 Thread Keith Winston
On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 11:46, antonio montagnani wrote: > I have just tried to upgrade from 7.3 to 8.0 but the procedure stopped > after checking dependencies and informed us that there was error (I > apologize for not taking note of which error...) and that was aborted > and that I could safely

Re: Upgrade from 7.3 to 8.0

2002-11-23 Thread M A Young
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, antonio montagnani wrote: > I have just tried to upgrade from 7.3 to 8.0 but the procedure stopped > after checking dependencies and informed us that there was error (I > apologize for not taking note of which error...) and that was aborted > and that I could safely reboot

another mp3 to cd method ...

2002-11-23 Thread Jim Christiansen
How about just openning the mp3s in xmms and: options preferences and chaging the ouput plugin to: Diskwriter plugin... Then just use your favorite gui to roast them. Jim _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months

Re: sbin and /usr/sbin

2002-11-23 Thread Martin Stricker
Tommy McNeely wrote: > > in /etc/profile, I have had to comment out the "if" and "fi" lines to > make the "sbin" paths automatically be part of a "users" path.. (like > for traceroute)... why do I have to do this?? Because for security issues only root should be able to run them. Some sbin progr

Distros are all good (was: Re: A few things who still suck inRedHat 8 aka constructive criticism)

2002-11-23 Thread Joe Klemmer
On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 11:34, Anthony Abby wrote: > > > I'm off shopping for Mandrake 9.0 tommorrow. > > > > Good luck. You might want to look at SuSE as well. > > I switched to Mandrake 9 about a month ago and have been nothing but > happy. It's great! FWLIW, I have found that if

Re: Distros are all good (was: Re: A few things who still suck inRedHat 8 aka constructive criticism)

2002-11-23 Thread Anthony Abby
On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 14:14, Joe Klemmer wrote: > On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 11:34, Anthony Abby wrote: > > > > > I'm off shopping for Mandrake 9.0 tommorrow. > > > > > > Good luck. You might want to look at SuSE as well. > > > > I switched to Mandrake 9 about a month ago and have been nothing but

Acrobat reader

2002-11-23 Thread Gerhardus Scheltema
I downloaded Adobe Acrobat Reader from adobe's site. Version 5.0.6 It doesnt work. I get the following error message. ./acroread Warning: charset "UTF-8" not supported, using "ISO8859-1". Aborted So I dug out hte old version 4 copy that used to work on RH7.1 doesn't work as well but I get differ

Re: system-wide configuration for user accounts

2002-11-23 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > i'm curious about how people set up system-wide config >for user accounts on their hosts, as i'm designing the >account admin chapter for my migration web site and i want >to make sure i give good advice. > > once upon a time, an admin would add sy

Re: Video Card recommendation

2002-11-23 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Markku Kolkka wrote: >Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 18:35:42 +0200 >From: Markku Kolkka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >List-Id: Discussion of Red Hat Linux 8.0 (Psyche) >Subject: Re: Video Card recommendation > >Viestis

Re: Acrobat reader

2002-11-23 Thread Mike A. Harris
On 23 Nov 2002, Gerhardus Scheltema wrote: >Date: 23 Nov 2002 21:32:00 +0200 >From: Gerhardus Scheltema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Psyche List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain >List-Id: Discussion of Red Hat Linux 8.0 (Psyche) >Subject: Acrobat reader > >I downloaded Adobe Acrobat Read

Re: Acrobat reader

2002-11-23 Thread Gerhardus Scheltema
Found Solution Thanx, its in the LANG env setting. missed that one Big Duh! Gerhardus On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 21:32, Gerhardus Scheltema wrote: > I downloaded Adobe Acrobat Reader from adobe's site. Version 5.0.6 > It doesnt work. I get the following error message. > > ./acroread > Warning: char

Re: Distros are all good (was: Re: A few things who still suck inRedHat 8 aka constructive criticism)

2002-11-23 Thread Joe Klemmer
On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 14:23, Anthony Abby wrote: > That's why I chose to migrate to Mandrake. Mandrake can do everything > Red Hat can do, obviously, but I like how they paid very close attention > to their all inclusive control center. You can do everything on the > system from a single applica

Re: Acrobat reader

2002-11-23 Thread Kent Pirkle
I'm using the rpm available here and it works fine with 8.0: http://www.gurulabs.com/downloads.html On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 14:32, Gerhardus Scheltema wrote: > I downloaded Adobe Acrobat Reader from adobe's site. Version 5.0.6 > It doesnt work. I get the following error message. > > ./acroread >

Help! Shutdown problems: Umount2 - Device or resource busy...

2002-11-23 Thread dA K6
Hi. I've got a shutdown problem. After I updated Samba to version samba-2.2.7-2 I started getting the following error message (not sure if it is samba related): Unmounting file systems: umount2 Device or resource busy umount /dev/hda2 not mounted umount /usr: Illegal seek [FAILED] INIT: no more

RE: Video Card recommendation

2002-11-23 Thread BM
Good god. Is there a command line for the mail server to send a consolidated mail? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike A. Harris Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 1:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Video Card recommendation On Sa

Re: A few things who still suck in RedHat 8 aka constructive criticism

2002-11-23 Thread Herman Christiani
Mandrake 8.* and 9.0 never did work for me, I tried 3 different cd's for MD 9.0, invariably the installer has troubles to open and install packages, mostly the kernel and or xfree. I gave up, no such problems with SuSE or Redhat 8.0 Herman On Sunday 24 November 2002 5:34 am, Anthony Abby wrote: >

Re: Upgrade from 7.3 to 8.0

2002-11-23 Thread Herman Christiani
True, after burning a cd with all the data needed for a backup, a new install is about 1 hour at the most, unlike windows (been there done that) so it's a lot less problematic to simply do a clean install. Cheers, Herman On Sunday 24 November 2002 6:15 am, Keith Winston wrote: > On Sat, 2002-11-2

Re: Gnome Sytem Monitor and Terminal Memory Usage

2002-11-23 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 06:22:15PM -0500, Andy Zirkel wrote: > Gnome System Monitor consistently eats up Memory. It's been running for > about two hours and is using 350 megs of ram, climbing steadily. Gnome > Terminal acts similarly but it will use memory as text scrolls past, > usually hogging

Re: Video Card recommendation

2002-11-23 Thread Gerry Doris
For what it's worth, I believe that ATI have just released the first of their consolidated drivers that support all of the 9x00 cards under linux. -- Gerry "The lyfe so short, the craft so long to learne" Chaucer -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mail

For example:

2002-11-23 Thread Jim Christiansen
how to use env LANG=C acroread in the plugin? Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:00:43 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi, Also located in an installed system at: /usr/share/doc/redhat-release-8.0/RELEASE-NOTES-i386 Does anyone know how to use the info from the release-

Re: Dist. Suggestions

2002-11-23 Thread David Durst
> On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, David Durst wrote: > >>Ok, maybe OpenLDAP does come w/ it. My mistake - but when you click to >> do a FULL INSTALL it doesn't. > > A full install does not install every single RPM package. There > is a reason for that. > >>And great RH doesn't support Binary Modules - you ca

Re: sbin and /usr/sbin

2002-11-23 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 19:31 23 Nov 2002, Martin Stricker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Tommy McNeely wrote: | > in /etc/profile, I have had to comment out the "if" and "fi" lines to | > make the "sbin" paths automatically be part of a "users" path.. (like | > for traceroute)... why do I have to do this?? | | Because

Installing RH8.0 for a particular CPU architecture.

2002-11-23 Thread Mr. Adam ALLEN
I'm doing some network testing for a final year project at University, and have come across a need for another machine which I can't get my hands on until I drive back to my folks house next week. I have a spare hard-drive kicking around- I want to get RH8.0 installed before I get the machine.

knoppix cd

2002-11-23 Thread Jim Christiansen
I had been using the Knoppix cd for a few days before I discovered all of the great fonts. I have scp'ied the fonts onto my redhat8 system, and they are really nice to have to use. My daughter will really enjoy having them to use on her rh8 box. Take a look at them if you have a chance. They

Dynamic PDF using PHP in Apache 2.0

2002-11-23 Thread Brooks Kelley
I read Keith Winston's message and wanted to know what classes he or anyone has found to create a dynamic PDF file from PHP using Apache 2.0 on RH8.0. I am in the process of configuring a web server for a non-profit organization that needs to fill in forms and have them printed. I just switched l

Re: Dist. Suggestions

2002-11-23 Thread Joe Klemmer
On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 18:40, David Durst wrote: > You remind me of every other SIMPSONS COMIC BOOK STORE LOOKING GUY > that holds linux back. It seems to me that you are not satisfied with RH the distro and RH the company. If this is true then I don't understand your continuation of this

Re: A few things who still suck in RedHat 8 aka constructivecriticism

2002-11-23 Thread Dr. David M. Colburn
Haven't tried Mandrake 9 but watched as others at the local LUG struggled with problems in the prior version much the same as some do with RH8. I imagine the next major version of RH will at least match Mandrake 9 (such is the nature of competition). I switched to RH8 from SuSE8 and am pleased th

psyche-list@redhat.com

2002-11-23 Thread Alan Peery
Paul Watkins wrote: Question 1: I don't know why you're occasionally having relaying problems... Question 2: I have dhcpd setup to dynamically assign the IP addresses on the internal network and for that purpose it works fine (most of the workstations are a mix of windows 2000, windows xp and

Re: Gnome Memory used > 1 Gb

2002-11-23 Thread Alan Peery
Philippe wrote: On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 11:25, Havoc Pennington wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 09:57:38AM +0700, PHD wrote: the gnome terminal was using 1.1 GB of memory (include swap) Can you avoid the memory leak simply by using xterms? They will presumably use monospaced fonts,

Sayonara (Was - Re: Dist. Suggestions)

2002-11-23 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, David Durst wrote: >> A full install does not install every single RPM package. There >> is a reason for that. > >Sounds like you are clueless for what I am asking. >And you never stated Binary ONLY modules, I believe you said >binary modules (Which really doesn't make sense

Re: X freezes

2002-11-23 Thread Alan Peery
Brian Schmidt wrote: I'm certainly no X expert, but I poked through /var/log/XFree86.0.log and didn't find anything that screamed out at me as an indicator of the problem. I thought most of the X windows sessions in 8.0 are writing the user level debugging into a file in the users home direct

Re: Dist. Suggestions

2002-11-23 Thread David Durst
> On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 18:40, David Durst wrote: > >> You remind me of every other SIMPSONS COMIC BOOK STORE LOOKING GUY >> that holds linux back. > > It seems to me that you are not satisfied with RH the > distro and RH the company. If this is true then I don't understand your > continuati

Re: 'bounce' messages with evolution?

2002-11-23 Thread Ryan Camick
On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 20:20, Brian K. Jones wrote: > > Just noticing there's no 'bounce' option in evolution that I can find. > > Evolution 1.2 has what I think is the equivalent: > > Actions -> Forward -> Redirect I have both pine and Evolution 1.2 in action here, and both the Bounce in pine and

Re: sbin and /usr/sbin

2002-11-23 Thread Tommy McNeely
yea ... hehe .. after writing that.. I was looking for an example in Solaris.. and couldn't find it.. but *sbin was in my path :-/ ... we have a "CUE" (common user environment) that pollutes every single "standard" user setup AT SUN ... :) thats where I got my SBIN path the way I wanted it.. bu

Re: Dist. Suggestions

2002-11-23 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 18:39, David Durst wrote: > > On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 18:40, David Durst wrote: > > > >> You remind me of every other SIMPSONS COMIC BOOK STORE LOOKING GUY > >> that holds linux back. > > > > It seems to me that you are not satisfied with RH the > > distro and RH the company

Re: Dist. Suggestions

2002-11-23 Thread David Durst
> If there's a chance that it's gonna do a bit of good, I would suggest > that you send a private email to Mike Harris and apologize for offending > him. > > Craig Please refer to the ORINGAL postins and side threat about MISTATING THE PROBLEM. I made my point calmly, I will not apologize to Mike.

Re: Sayonara (Was - Re: Dist. Suggestions)

2002-11-23 Thread toby
"Mike A. Harris" wrote: > . . . text whacked > > Feel free to fight amongst yourselves. > Wish you could ignore the agitator & not leave the forum, Mike. I try to read all the posts by RH employees. I never know what info I may find valuable in those posts. -toby -- Psyche-list mailin

Re: Dist. Suggestions

2002-11-23 Thread Joe Klemmer
On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 20:39, David Durst wrote: > I will not bother to respond to you comment about being pointless and > counterproductive discussion, just refer to the above about NOT READING > THE ORIGINAL POST. Dave, I have been following this thread from the afore mentioned original

Re: Dist. Suggestions

2002-11-23 Thread Joe Klemmer
On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 21:39, David Durst wrote: > Please refer to the ORINGAL postins and side threat about MISTATING THE > PROBLEM. Ok, I tried but I can't... > I made my point calmly, I will not apologize to Mike. He made it personal > in his first & second posting back to me.

Re: sbin and /usr/sbin

2002-11-23 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sun, 24 Nov 2002, Cameron Simpson wrote: > | > just cause its in the sbin path does not mean that only root can run > | > it... sbin is for "static-binaries" right?? > | > | No, system binaries. > > These days, maybe. In older times, it did mean static - these binaries > would run before the

Re: Sayonara (Was - Re: Dist. Suggestions)

2002-11-23 Thread jdow
Amazing, someone got under Mike's collar. I wonder who could bozo well enough to manage that? {O.O} From: "Mike A. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, David Durst wrote: > > >> A full install does not install every single RPM package. There > >> is a reason for that. > > > >Sound

Re: Sayonara (Was - Re: Dist. Suggestions)

2002-11-23 Thread Jesse Keating
On Saturday 23 November 2002 18:50, jdow uttered: > Indeed, he is in a position to REQUEST. He is not in a position to > demand. He is apparently too inexperienced with the world to have > learned the difference. Incidentally, Red Hat's attidude about modules > for which no source is available, suc

Re: Dist. Suggestions

2002-11-23 Thread David Durst
> On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 20:39, David Durst wrote: > >> I will not bother to respond to you comment about being pointless and >> counterproductive discussion, just refer to the above about NOT >> READING THE ORIGINAL POST. > > Dave, I have been following this thread from the afore mentioned >

Re: Sayonara (Was - Re: Dist. Suggestions)

2002-11-23 Thread David Durst
> Amazing, someone got under Mike's collar. I wonder who could bozo > well enough to manage that? I didn't ask for a NVIDIA driver? I asked for a DRIVER that is under a OSS license, I believe the MPL. Hmmm wait sorry, that alone should make this a MUTE point in that RH can distribute MPL software

Re: Sayonara (Was - Re: Dist. Suggestions)

2002-11-23 Thread David Durst
> On Saturday 23 November 2002 18:50, jdow uttered: >> Indeed, he is in a position to REQUEST. He is not in a position to >> demand. He is apparently too inexperienced with the world to have >> learned the difference. Incidentally, Red Hat's attidude about modules >> for which no source is availabl

Re: Dist. Suggestions

2002-11-23 Thread Philip Wyett
On Sun, 2002-11-24 at 02:39, David Durst wrote: > > If there's a chance that it's gonna do a bit of good, I would suggest > > that you send a private email to Mike Harris and apologize for offending > > him. > > > > Craig > Please refer to the ORINGAL postins and side threat about MISTATING THE > P

Re: Sayonara (Was - Re: Dist. Suggestions)

2002-11-23 Thread David Durst
> "Mike A. Harris" wrote: >> > > > . . . text whacked > >> >> Feel free to fight amongst yourselves. >> > > > Wish you could ignore the agitator & not leave the forum, Mike. I try to > read all the posts by RH employees. I never know what info I may find > valuable in those posts. It might have be

Re: Dynamic PDF using PHP in Apache 2.0

2002-11-23 Thread Jason Wong
On Sunday 24 November 2002 07:19, Brooks Kelley wrote: > I read Keith Winston's message and wanted to know what classes he or > anyone has found to create a dynamic PDF file from PHP using Apache 2.0 > on RH8.0. > > I am in the process of configuring a web server for a non-profit > organization tha

Re: Dist. Suggestions

2002-11-23 Thread David Durst
> On Sun, 2002-11-24 at 02:39, David Durst wrote: >> > If there's a chance that it's gonna do a bit of good, I would >> suggest that you send a private email to Mike Harris and apologize >> for offending him. >> > >> > Craig >> Please refer to the ORINGAL postins and side threat about MISTATING >>

Re: Sayonara (Was - Re: Dist. Suggestions)

2002-11-23 Thread Alejandro González Hernández - Imoq
On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 22:41, David Durst wrote: > Once again, someone that didn't read the ORIGINAL POST and still thinks > the driver I asked for is a CLOSED SOURCE DRIVER. > You are a stupid moron, David Durst. Nobody on this list will miss you if you decide to leave, but *A LOT* of people (in

Re: Sayonara (Was - Re: Dist. Suggestions)

2002-11-23 Thread Randy Kelsoe
Mike A. Harris wrote: You remind me of that one random annoying person on our mailing lists each release, that makes me sick enough to not want to help people on our lists any more, as I'm not paid to do so, and I no longer enjoy the experience. So on that note, I bid the mailing list goodbye.

Re: Sayonara (Was - Re: Dist. Suggestions)

2002-11-23 Thread David Durst
I know its pittifull compared to Mikes achievements and all, and I am sure its lame in comparison to you and all also. So I will just go and un-install all 1500 RH machines I have installed at small companies. Thanks for your great insight into the underlying problem This is the exact sorta talk

Re: Sayonara (Was - Re: Dist. Suggestions)

2002-11-23 Thread David Durst
> Mike A. Harris wrote: > >>You remind me of that one random annoying person on our mailing >>lists each release, that makes me sick enough to not want to help >> people on our lists any more, as I'm not paid to do so, and I no >> longer enjoy the experience. >> >>So on that note, I bid the mailing

Re: Sayonara (Was - Re: Dist. Suggestions)

2002-11-23 Thread David Durst
> Don't mince words. Binary only modules are binary only modules. It is > stupid to think that Red Hat would ship binary modules and > not ship the source code, or that Red Hat would ship binary > modules that someone else compiled if source was available. > > There was no lack of clarity in wha

One of the original Dist Suggestion Posts

2002-11-23 Thread David Durst
After digging throught my sent box I pulled this back out, I post this back to Mike a while back, this was not insulting to him outside of him being pissed at the Donald Becker comment. So lets get this straight I didn't as for a proprietary driver, MPL is not proprietary and if it is Mozilla is p

Re: Sayonara (Was - Re: Dist. Suggestions)

2002-11-23 Thread Riemer Palstra
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, David Durst wrote: > So I will just go and un-install all 1500 RH machines I have installed at > small companies. Hey, if you want support from Red Hat, you're free to buy it from them. > This is the exact sorta talk that will destroy the community if you > are not carefull.

Re: Dist. Suggestions

2002-11-23 Thread Riemer Palstra
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, David Durst wrote: > Thank you for actually be intellegent. Please learn how to spell intelligent before judging other people on that quality. > Then I kept getting flames from the people I have been going at it with > since. Posting sentences in all caps, insulting peopl