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>Subject: Re: ATI 9700 PRO and Multi-Head Configuration
>
>This isn't going to be of much help to you, of course, but can you, or
>anyone at all, tell me which ATI cards have very good 3d acceleration
>with the
d Hat Linux, and are unsupported by
Red Hat, although you can give them a shot if you wish.
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>Date: 09 Dec 2002 23:15:31 -0500
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>Subject: Re: Upgrade XFree
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>On Mon, 2002-
the
sound card, and the port number should match the port used by
esd in step 1 above.
Configure all your apps to use esd if they have the option to do
so, and they will work with your networked ESD daemon.
Finally: Enjoy your networked sound.
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testing in my 8.0 directory at the URL in my sig.
4.2.1-9.4 or later.
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upgrade XFree86 to the version in Rawhide. RPM
>complains that kernel-drm is required. What package contains the
>kernel-drm?
The kernel does.
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. In this case, invoke it as
"ssh -X remotehost.com" instead.
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are servers.
Then again... I read XFree86 source code all day long every day
so...
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guys
talk about 3ware hardware quite a bit, but I don't know specific
model names that are considered good. Just be sure when
purchasing *any* RAID card, that it is really a hardware RAID
card you are getting if it is a hardware RAID card you are
looking for. If the card seems
If the
partition is very very full and has little free space, this is
ultraimportant. On partitions with more free space, it is less
risky.
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ething like "-march=i486 -mcpu=i686" would provide access to
the i486 class instructions, but optimize scheduling for i686
class CPUs.
In the case of VMware however, I seriously doubt that it is even
remotely useable on a real i486 class machine, and it would
arguably be not ver
functionality from the menus.
Users are always free to add new entries to the menus if they
prefer, and are encouraged to do so.
Hope this helps to understand.
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ever the problem is that you're having. Sorry I
can't help.
TTYL
P.S. Please reply below the message you're responding to, and
trim out unnecessary context. It makes it easier to read,
follow, and reply to, while still keeping context. Thanks in
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er a year with no problems to
>> date.
>
>Red Hat's software raid is indeed better than Promise's software raid...
And we even allow them to see our intellectual property too via
the GPL. ;o)
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ntly show the Linux md driver to
be superior in performance.
The Promise hardware RAID issues aside, is a really decent IDE
controller IMHO, but the Ultra series of cards are identical
hareware wise and a lot cheaper. The only difference between the
Ultra and the FastTrak seems to be the
lable for running X programs. I think the X
>libraries belong on a *standard* server install from Redhat...
Exactly. You install the X libraries, clients, config tools on
the server machine. Then you log into the server via ssh from
your admin box/workstation/whatever which is running
d to install an X
server on any server machine *ever*. You can run our X based
configuration utilities just fine from an ssh shell with display
to a remote X server.
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hing, yes it has to drop it - but then again why DROP a
>> packet or even bother with inserting a rule if the packet won't do
>> anything in the first place.
>>
>> I think the policy of just IGNORE packets that do nothing is the best.
>
>This confirms my earlier as
n other words when I said the 'policy of IGNORE' it was a
>overall philosphy
Which is precicely what "DROP" does.
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or even someone who has been
working with things for a while but isn't an expert in the area.
The netfilter mailing lists are ultimately where to ask these
types of things and get good proper answers.
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g DRM locking bugs fixed in
the kernel erratum. (About 3 years old)
If that doesn't work, I can provide test packages for you to
upgrade to if you like.
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upport in a different manner "Twinview" if I recall
correctly. You may want to verify the exact details with
Nvidia's documentation however or with another user who has set
this up, in case I'm mistaken.
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memory (that's not my case), so that was not very helpful.
Please bugzilla this.
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is:
>
>iptables -P INPUT -j DROP
>
>But then again you may want to think twice about using a DEFAULT DROP
>firewall, DEFAULT DROP uses alot of resources for packets you might just be
>able to ignore.
That is false.
DROP means "drop this packet on the floor and do no
s in .
>/usr/share/mimelnk ...
>
>What next, please? The geek in me is unwilling to give up.
/usr/bin is where it probably installs the binaries. The browser
plugins probably get put in netscape's plugin dir. You may or
may not need to symlink them to mozilla's dir too.
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talled. Unfortunately Real Networks do not seem to be too
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Do rpm -qp rp8.linux20.libc6.i386.cs2.rpm first to get the real
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reject option as stated in the Redhat 8.0 Security Guide
>does not work !
>
>It gives Bad policy name.
>
>Has anyone a workaround for this ?
/lib/modules/2.4.18-18.8.0smp/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_REJECT.o
man iptables
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o help with problems, and access to technical
specifications to XFree86 developers, as well as now supporting
customers with an alternative - binary drivers, and with 2 day
response times to customer concerns.
Spend your money wherever you think you'll get the best support
for Linux. My money would be going to ATI, and I'll bet many
others who have followed this thread will be also.
Once again, hats off to ATI for their support of the Linux
community.
$0.02
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ightened me up a bit. Sorry for being perhaps a bit
overreactive.
Now that ATI has updated their drivers to support the Powered by
cards, etc. though, I guess the whole email thread is rather moot
now. I'm glad to see ATI respond so quickly, however I'm not
surprised that they've done so.
Take care,
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insane FUD and needlessly
attacking hardware vendors that go out of their way to support
Linux.
Thanks for the URL.
Take care,
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at all Radeon LE cards are made by vendors other than ATI.
While that is true for the original cards (I believe only Appian
makes them), it may not be true for the current generations of
cards, and that is why I clearly stated "unless I am mistaken".
Had I known 100% that all Radeon LE cards were in fact
not produced by ATI, then I would not have stated "unless I am
mistaken".
Humorous that you felt the need to make a big deal out of it
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theories on
their own to cover up their own poor decisions.
The problem here is not ATI.
ATI is an extremely Linux/open source friendly vendor, and does a
LOT to support XFree86 on Linux. Not once in the above trash
article did I see mention that ATI was contacted for comment
directly
mailing
lists each release, that makes me sick enough to not want to help
people on our lists any more, as I'm not paid to do so, and I no
longer enjoy the experience.
So on that note, I bid the mailing list goodbye. I don't need to
waste my time reading and responding to this mindless drivel.
Feel free to fight amongst yourselves.
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authing at me.
This is documented in the Red Hat Linux 8.0 RELEASE-NOTES in the
root dir of the first CDROM, and presented to users during
installation. Also located in an installed system at:
/usr/share/doc/redhat-release-8.0/RELEASE-NOTES-i386
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>
>Viestissä Lauantai 23. Marraskuuta 2002 15:43, Mike A. Harris kirjoitti:
>> As such, if you want a good chance at having
>> working ATI card, then I suggest you get a "Built by ATI" card,
>
>My point was that I _can't_ buy a &q
namespacing all
your custom files with a common prefix:
"rpjd_java.sh" or ${hostname}_java.sh or some such unique
identifier.
That way you needn't wory about some other package installing a
"java.sh" script there.
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it wont boot.
Just copy the CD properly and it should work. Again assuming the
original CD is not bad, and that your burn is successful and
passes mediacheck.
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ng the workds "Radeon
Mobility". That might provide useful info.
Hope this helps,
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On 21 Nov 2002, Edward C. Bailey wrote:
>>>>>> "Markku" == Markku Kolkka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>Markku> Viestissä Keskiviikko 20. Marraskuuta 2002 13:12, Mike A. Harris
>Markku> kirjoitti:
>>> Again, "Built by ATI" are
ubject: Re: Video Card recommendation
>
>Viestissä Keskiviikko 20. Marraskuuta 2002 13:12, Mike A. Harris kirjoitti:
>> Again, "Built by ATI" are the only cards tested, officially
>> supported, and likely to work without trouble.
>
>So Red Hat is only officially supporting
ike any other ISO image, and booting from it. If it does not
work then either:
- your media is bad
- your system is not configured properly in the CMOS or otherwise
to boot from CD
- there is a bug
I would suspect #1 or #2 first.
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never been part of a user's path in
traditional Unix and Linux systems. While some distributions may
possibly put these directories in users paths by default, it is
by no means a standard.
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ffice that are
part of Red Hat Linux 8.0?
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totally _NO_. Switch to another
distribution that ships it if you must.
>This discussion reminds me of the pre Donald Becker days and
>dealing w/ regular NIC cards.
This discussion reminds me of getting a root canal, and I've
never gotten one.
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to add Xft-2.0-1.rpm because if was
>complaining about the libXft.so.2 library. I'm not sure what the deal is
>with this. But, it worked after I installed it. It also added a cool 3d
>like cursor.
No, all you needed to do was run "ldconfig" manually at the
commandline
ing configs?
Intel i845 video hardware is not supported by Red Hat Linux 8.0,
nor by XFree86 4.2.x. Support for this hardware will be in
XFree86 4.3.0.
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on, you
have a variety of options available, including, but not limited
to:
- Download and install the given unsupported software
- Switch to a different distribution that comes with, and
possibly even supports the particular software that you wish to
use.
Open source does give people these, a
>a Netgear wireless NIC to work under 8.0.
Red Hat does not support binary kernel modules.
>Along w/ that is there is a serious need for a Directory Service
>so it is just a thought.
Such as the openldap directory service that is included with Red
Hat Linux 8.0 perhaps?
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rivers for other video
hardware from XiG (Accelerated X) at: www.xig.com
S3TC is patented, and as such is not available in open source
drivers currently.
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otocol however. There are cryptanalysis
whitepapers online, easily found by a google search.
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Your disk is toast. Pray that your backups are safe. :o/
The ext3 errors are due to disk corruption caused by the disk
dying, and are not due to filesystem related problems.
Replace your disk ASAP.
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f you encounter problems however, from the feedback I've heard
from other users, Nvidia's technical support is quite good and
always willing to help out.
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x27;m trying to gather a list of "Powered by ATI"
hardware that works, and another list of "Powered by ATI"
hardware known to not work properly, in order to help steer
people away from the bad ones.
Again, "Built by ATI" are the only cards tested, officially
suppo
a drivers. Since S3TC is
patented, it has not been implemented in open source drivers yet.
There are drivers available from XiG which implement S3TC on
other hardware such as the Radeon.
So no, Nvidia drivers are not a requirement, there are other
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Radeon 8500, and FireGL
8700 and 8800 on their website. I've not tried them and have no
idea how full featured or stable they might or might not be.
They are there however, and people do use them.
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have 3D support for Radeon 8500 when
it is released. There's no official date published for it being
released however. Most likely within the next few months.
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of choice, aterm...
Correct, xterm is definitely not SUID root in Red Hat Linux. It
hasn't been for years.
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ady explained, it's different from what happens on RHL 7.3.
So what. Lots of things in Red Hat Linux 8.0 are different than
they were in 7.3.
>As for "how it works," go teach your grandmother to suck eggs.
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r it could mean that there are very few cards in circulation out
there, or even possibly that it is so broken that everyone
ditched their cards and replaced them with shiny new ones. ;o)
Anyhow, give the rendition driver a shot, and if it doesn't work,
post your results here and we'll try to troubleshoot.
Hope this helps,
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pecific video card models too. That will give you an
idea of what - if any bugs/problems people have encountered, and
under any particular motherboard/hardware mix.
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with no
problems, and no special configuration other than editing
/etc/fstab.
I created a dir /film, then added an entry to fstab to mount the
device there. I'd test it on Alpha also, but USB isn't
functional on my Alpha boxes. ;o)
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hey are unsupported by Red Hat, but if you
have problems with them, Nvidia tech support is happy to assist.
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27;hello' thus showing nothing.
You should ensure that any buffers are flushed properly before
your program exits.
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displayed, then see the program return to bash, which displays
the prompt. The prompt overwrites the line because there was no
trailing newline.
Go ahead and miss Psyche. Spend the time reading programming
manuals to learn how stuff works instead.
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e things can fill us in on what
>>we're missing.
>>
>
>For me it would be to actually meet, some of the Red Hat developers. Of
>course that depends on *who* is making the trip :)
Drive to Raleigh, NC, and wait outside the Red Hat building on
1801 Varsity Dr. ;o)
-
other option
>other than replacing the video card.)
Run the following command as root, and cut and paste the results:
lspci -vvn |grep -A20 0300
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t;My my, I guess the answer is right here: 2.96. It will only work with
>RedHat 7.x which uses gcc 2.96, or other likewise distributions.
RHL 8.0 has gcc 2.96 also as a secondary compiler for backward
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be the culprit:
> echo $LANG
> en_US.UTF-8
>
>Unless I did something dumb during install this is what I got with a
>fairly stock install.
Documented in RELEASE-NOTES for 8.0
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n beer "Sam Adams". I
made that mistake last week. Tastes like watered down beer with
cigarette ashes and toothpaste in it.
Who wants beer that tastes like toothpaste? Ick... ;o)
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if there are any RH types here in k-w, drop me a note.
>we'll do beer.
I've got family and friends in K/W. ;o) I might be down that
way sometime in the near future. One good thing about K/W, at
least the last time I was there... was damn cheap beer at the
Lyric. W00t! ;o)
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wever...
Come join the fun and excitement of the Red Hat Canadian road
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ether the output of that goes to
your speakers, or to an ogg encoder, the result is the same,
you're still decoding MP3, which is patented.
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tware is expecting. Rename them to lowercase and they
should work, assuming they're working fonts.
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#x27;t work on all CD burning devices using cdrecord,
however TAO typically does. The exact command to use is
dependant on the hardware capabilities.
Our manuals are very wrong on this one I'm afraid.. but only
likely because the commands work on all CDR units avail for
testing I presume.
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people ask very often, some never. We need to
trim the #redhat FAQ down to useful content, so that people
actually read it rather than be daunted by it's random
organization of a large number of questions...
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y asked
questions from the list, such as the MP3 situation, and other
similar things. That'll make a much better document IMHO.
Take care,
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oint where if you see the question again, you're going to
want to hunt someone down and ... well, you get the point.
Otherwise, the document isn't an FAQ, but rather just an AQ.
/me on endless pursuit, trying to keep the "F" in FAQ
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t the mature user from the nature of this list,
>however RedHat seems to embrace the not-so-technical-user with the
>recent changes in 8.0.
We've got a tech support knowledgebase on our website under
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nager like Adobe
>Type Manager is most definitely needed. I'd do it my self if I
>could code...
That type of application is something that the open source
community will likely have to develop IMHO. If something nice
gets developed and there is a large enough user demand for it,
I'
he number of fonts I believe.
>>you don't need one really in Red Hat Linux either. If fonts are
>>placed in the correct place, and the system restarted, or
>>manually restart as above, things "just work(TM)", which is the
>>whole point.
>
>So how to you check for duplicates?
>Many fonts are know by multiple names. Some are copies of others, like
>the ugly Helvetica clone M$ thrust on us, Arial.
md5sum
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they've appeared on
the market and have never once had any problem or any device get
hurt.
I would consider the likelyhood of damage ever occuring to be as
small or smaller than a particular device (such as USB) getting
damaged by hotplugging.
So, while there might be something out the
ype fonts in mozilla./evolution
>
>On Thursday 07 November 2002 11:53, Mike A. Harris wrote:
>> Well, if it is not documented clearly in any of the official Red
>> Hat Linux manuals that come with the distribution in hard copy,
>> or are available on ISO image or online, then
me-terminal is so much slower?
That would require someone to test both, and profile them to see
why. It also assumes they're not identical, and just different
configurations. Does Mandrake 9 use Xft2/fontconfig and Xft'd
GNOME/KDE? If not, then that very well could be your answer
t;printf("Type your name:");
>scanf("%s",name);
>printf("Hello %s!\n",name);
>
>became
>
>fprintf(stdout,...);
>fscanf(stdin,...);
>fprintf(sdtout...);
>
>That's the kind of change the C++ standard is making.
I'm not even remotely a C++ programmer, and even _I_ know how to
deal with this properly.
using namespace std;
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t;people use source tarballs?
It's an open system, and people are free to use whatever they
like, be it RPM packages, tarballs, or flipping binary switches
on a parallel port.
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Vtx1V1"
>List-Id: Discussion of Red Hat Linux 8.0 (Psyche)
>Subject: Re: cdrecord obsolete
>
>[Warning! Rant to follow!]
>
>On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 19:12, Mike A. Harris wrote:
>
>> Regardless, it is named an 'alpha' release, and as maintainer of
>>
cument something - having never even tried to read our
manuals in the first place. We aren't going to make
RELEASE-NOTES a 20Mb file full of changes. That would just make
it even more unlikely that people would ever read it.
The proper place for this type of stuff is a complete manual, not
some README file.
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people
who feel the opposite way of course, but you simply can't please
all of the people all of the time, and if you try to, you'll
please nobody. We need to pick our goals, and try to achieve
them. There will be bumps along the way, but I don't think there
is any possible way
wever if you
want to beta test the i845 driver support.
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ction 17.4.1.2 of C++ standard (or the standard itself) may be
>found?
http://www.iso.org
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d. Examples include
substituting the header for the header for C++
includes, or instead of the deprecated header
. To disable this warning use -Wno-deprecated.
[root@devel root]# ./helloworld
Hello World
As you can see, g++ compiles your code just fine, and it executes
as well. Your code is
bject: Re: True type fonts in mozilla./evolution
>
>On Wednesday 06 November 2002 5:28 pm, Mike A. Harris wrote:
>
>> This is not a "Red Hat decides to be different from everyone
>> else" thing.
>
>This is precisely a 'Red Hat decides to be different from every
urse,
just keep in mind if you plan on selling them, to follow the Red
Hat trademark guidelines:
http://www.redhat.com/about/corporate/trademark/guidelines.html
>Unless there was a DVD space problem :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
There is no DVD space problem.
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x27;s with ALL of
>>the RedHat stuff on it - then anyone could show up RedHat.
>>
>Not sure about space, but the whole OS is on the DVD, it's the extra
>trial/demo software on seperate CDs. Everything you can download as an
>ISO is on the DVD. It's the stuff you cannot redistribute that' s on CD.
Correct.
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..
http://synergy2.sourceforge.net
Synergy2 is a completley free open source software solution that
can do almost everything a KVM can do, only over the network.
One drawback being that you need multiple monitors still.
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But until that point is reached, configuring
fonts in 2 places is a requirement. IMHO, the benefit is very
very much worth the slight inconvenience. Red Hat just happens
to be the first to boldly use this innovative new font
technology. And we do so, with many great thanks to Keith
Packard.
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to them in the first place.
I sometimes wish the government would require people to pass
tests and get a license to use the Internet, and have a demerit
system in place.
But that's just my own personal opinion
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ing the K, V, and M directly to the
computer, then it is considered a KVM hardware bug, and is
unsupported.
I have an ABL KVM (now owned by APC), and it works well, even
with wheel mice.
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it on the DVD? Is the US version the same?
>> I found it quite handy in the past to have everything on a different
>> media.
>
>What other 2 CD's?
The LACDs.
>Anyway, I dont think there is a US DVD version.
You'd be very wrong.
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stream maintainer's releases and help accelerate it becoming
considered "stable" by him, and hopefully also accelerate an
official release.
Other alternatives are freshrpms.net, rpmfind.net, freshmeat.net
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