Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Paul McNett
On 9/14/11 3:44 PM, Jarvis, Matthew wrote: > So I guess the command line kung-fu I am wanting is a way to get a list > of all the *.doc files, in all the subdirs that are not marked as > Hidden. (I'll sort it myself later). > > Any takers? Write a shell script in Python using os.path.walk(). Invok

RE: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Jarvis, Matthew
> -Original Message- > From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] > On Behalf Of Paul Hill > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:15 PM > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > Subject: Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8 > > What? Like this: >

Re: (NF) Set up DSN in an Inno Setup - is it possible?

2011-09-14 Thread Dan Covill
If you mean "Can you make registry entries?", the answer is yes, you can. I have tested and verified this. Dan Covill San Diego On 09/13/11 21:18, Tina Currie wrote: > Hi all, > > As part of my install for my app, I need to install qodbc.exe (so I can > connect to the QuickBooks Data), but then

RE: (NF) Set up DSN in an Inno Setup - is it possible? - SOLVED

2011-09-14 Thread Tina Currie
Thanks for the link Ted - I had already found that one but was a little wary about making registry entries straight up... Found some nifty fox code here and decided to run with that instead: http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~ProgrammaticallyCreatingDSNs I have a system.dbf with the app that holds

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox)
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) wrote: > I *hate* the new desktop UI on Ubuntu... OK, I need to eat my words. A little bit of Googling shows that changing back to the "classic" Ubuntu desktop is a piece of cake. I shoulda known. I haven't been able to try it yet, as that

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Stephen Russell
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Paul McNett wrote: > On 9/14/11 1:21 PM, Ted Roche wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Paul McNett  wrote: >> >>> I'm betting that there will be a whole host of sysadmin functions you just >>> won't be >>> able to do nearly as effectively without the GUI. >

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Paul Hill
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Paul McNett wrote: > Several things make the *nix shell so useful, but mostly it's that there are > hundreds > (thousands?) of shell utilities at your disposal that are designed to do > exactly one > thing very well. They accept, at a minimum, input on stdin and

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Ted Roche
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Paul McNett wrote: > Several things make the *nix shell so useful, but mostly it's that there are > hundreds > (thousands?) of shell utilities at your disposal that are designed to do > exactly one > thing very well. They accept, at a minimum, input on stdin and

RE: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Jarvis, Matthew
> -Original Message- > From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] > On Behalf Of Paul McNett > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:32 PM > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > Subject: Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8 > > I never understood

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Mike Copeland
Because otherwise someone might change it to say something different? GASP! I'm thinking the legal beagles were behind this. Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8 From: Paul McNett To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 9/14/2011 3

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Paul McNett
On 9/14/11 1:21 PM, Ted Roche wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Paul McNett wrote: > >> I'm betting that there will be a whole host of sysadmin functions you just >> won't be >> able to do nearly as effectively without the GUI. > > You'd be surprised. MS has made some advances in the past

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Ted Roche
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Paul McNett wrote: > I'm betting that there will be a whole host of sysadmin functions you just > won't be > able to do nearly as effectively without the GUI. You'd be surprised. MS has made some advances in the past couple of years with PowerShell and some of t

RE: XFRX support

2011-09-14 Thread Richard Kaye
Hi James, I just got an email from Martin saying that he's been a bit busy but that he has replied to you. BTW my looking at the demo has made me want to try implementing the XFRX previewer into my EXE so I should be better able to chime in on issues related to that once I figure it all out m

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Paul McNett
On 9/14/11 11:02 AM, Jarvis, Matthew wrote: > I hear from a bro that at least with Windows 8 Server, the GUI is > optional... I'm betting that there will be a whole host of sysadmin functions you just won't be able to do nearly as effectively without the GUI. Editing plain-text config files wi

RE: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Jarvis, Matthew
> > > > I *hate* the new desktop UI on Ubuntu. Hate it. Same reason as the > > "ribbon" BS in the MS Orifice (someone else commented on recently): I > > can't find *anything.* Seems like all of these redesigns are pandering > > to grandma-like users, who only know how to do 3 things. > > -

RE: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread John Weller
I teach MS Office so had to take the trouble to learn the ribbon. I now find it easier to use. I have 2003, 2007 and 2010 on my machine and use 2010 on a daily basis as I prefer it. John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 > I thought that the ribbon was to show the user just how much potentia

RE: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread John Weller
I can see a situation developing similar to XP v Vista when Vista was introduced with the major corporates wanting to stay with Win 7 if that is what they have chosen as their standard as Win 8 appears be so radically different. John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 ___

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Paul McNett
On 9/14/11 9:31 AM, kamcgin...@gmail.com wrote: > Don't forget sharing. When you "share", you have not shared anything. Try > it. Nothing is shared. You need to do more > undocumented steps to share. With Win2000, when you select to share, it is > shared. Sharing has not worked correctly > since

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Paul Hill
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:31 PM, wrote: > Don't forget sharing.  When you "share", you have not shared anything. Try > it. Nothing is shared. You need to do more > undocumented steps to share. With Win2000, when you select to share, it is > shared. Sharing has not worked correctly > since. Wor

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread kamcginnis
Don't forget sharing. When you "share", you have not shared anything. Try it. Nothing is shared. You need to do more undocumented steps to share. With Win2000, when you select to share, it is shared. Sharing has not worked correctly since. >>> >> I sit >>> >> down at a Vista or Windows 7 mach

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Paul McNett
On 9/14/11 4:51 AM, Allen wrote: > To be honest Ted I'm not comfortable with Linux full stop. I don't get the > time to learn basically, so what would be best is the simplest version to > get to work. > What I'm after is setting up a mail server to get rid of MS exchange. I want > to be able to use

RE: XFRX support

2011-09-14 Thread Richard Kaye
Hi James, I'll toss out one more thing based on my running the demo form supplied by Eqeus. In that demo form, there's a container object called xfCont that has a property called defaultoutputfilename that is used to populate the report options object (opt.cOutputFIle). If you have the source,

[NF] How we found the speed of light: it's not infinite! (300 years ago)

2011-09-14 Thread Jarvis, Matthew
For the astonomy geeks out there (including myself)... http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2011/09/how_we_found_the_speed_o f_ligh.php Thanks, Matthew Jarvis || Business Systems Analyst IT Department McKenzie-Willamette Medical Center 1460 G Street, Springfield, OR 97477 || P

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread lelandj
Running your own mail server is not as bad as people may think, and has its advantanges. In order to do it, you would need a static IP address, an MX record on a DNS, a router that forwards to the local computer that acts as the smtp mail server. The hard part is initial set-up, which involves

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox)
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: > I thought that the ribbon was to show the user just how much potential > was available.  In that the typical user only tapped 5% of a word > processor's capabilities... Oh, I don't mean to disparage the ribbon or other improvements to the

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Alan Bourke
On Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:52 AM, "Stephen Russell" wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) > I thought that the ribbon was to show the user just how much potential > was available. In that the typical user only tapped 5% of a word > processor's capabilities.

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Stephen Russell
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 3:18 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > Used Ubuntu recently? A new horizon in moving stuff around, and I hear >> the latest OSX isn't shy about it either. > > I *hate* the new desktop UI on Ubuntu. Hate it. Same reas

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox)
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Ted Roche wrote: > ...other than to say I strongly > discourage people from running their own mail servers... I went through all of this, too. Frankly, it felt "cutting edge" and cool to have my own web server, including mail server etc. I learned one *hell* of a

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox)
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 3:18 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: Used Ubuntu recently? A new horizon in moving stuff around, and I hear > the latest OSX isn't shy about it either. I *hate* the new desktop UI on Ubuntu. Hate it. Same reason as the "ribbon" BS in the MS Orifice (someone else commented on recent

RE: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Allen
Thanks Ted. It is a production mail server and I understand your worries, The storms don't happen here so flooding is not an issue. Slow internet is but that's not a biggie either. It's just me really, mixture of keeping it sort of cheap and a liking of running my own domains here. Other than spamm

RE: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Lou Syracuse
I have heard this is already the case, however but I can't confirm it as I am still downloading the 4.8GB ISO file lol Lou -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bourke Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:54 AM

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Alan Bourke
On Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:08 AM, "Ted Roche" wrote: > > > The experimentation with new things is a hassle. A ribbon instead of a > menu, a tablet-like touch interface instead of a keyboard-and-mouse > GUI; these are hard things to adjust to. It costs real companies real > money to hav

RE: XFRX support

2011-09-14 Thread James E Harvey
Yes, I did purchase the source code. I've come to the conclusion that my skillsets are not up to the level of what is required to make this product work the way I'd like it to. Also, the lack of response from XFRX has turned me off this product for now. I do appreciate your help, but I'm going t

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Malcolm Greene
> I help my clients set up their email with someone who does this for a living. > After griping and moaning, most clients have found Google Apps for Business > to be an acceptable substitute. The free version is sufficient for small organizations, while the paid version is cheaper than maintainin

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Ted Roche
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Allen wrote: > To be honest Ted I'm not comfortable with Linux full stop. I don't get the > time to learn basically, so what would be best is the simplest version to > get to work. Ubuntu. > What I'm after is setting up a mail server to get rid of MS exchange.

RE: XFRX support

2011-09-14 Thread Richard Kaye
Are you using the Export Options form object that's included? Again, I don't use the Export Options dialog but I have the help file to be very useful and there are a lot of good examples in there. I built my own wrapper around the XFRX object pretty much based on working through the help file.

RE: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread john harvey
Exactly! John Harvey > > Like security? Eh? How does moving c:/WinNT/Profiles to c:/Documents and Settings to c:/Users help security? Linux and Mac put it at /home on day one and left it there, and those OS's are considered more secure than Windows. How does moving Control Panel|Add/Remove Pro

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Ted Roche
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:18 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > Used Ubuntu recently? A new horizon in moving stuff around, and I hear > the latest OSX isn't shy about it either. I've heard a lot of grumbling about Ubuntu's new Unity UI though I haven't tried it myself. GNOME 3 is getting a rough receptio

RE: XFRX support

2011-09-14 Thread James E Harvey
The setparams doesn't seem to connect to the Export Options dialog that the user can use to export the report to different files types. Quite frankly I'm a bit disappointed in the apparent lack of response to my request for help from Eqeus. James E Harvey Corresponding Officer/M.I.S. Hanover

[OT] It's okay to not like things...

2011-09-14 Thread Ed Leafe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI -- Ed Leafe This email may include confidential information. If you received it in error, please delete it. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo

RE: (NF) Set up DSN in an Inno Setup - is it possible?

2011-09-14 Thread Richard Kaye
Some years ago (2001?), Mark McCasland posted some VFP code for creating an ODBC DSN in the registry. It probably needs some tweaking for a post-XP world but it might be helpful. It's in the public domain so I'll submit to Ed for the Profox archives. -- rk -Original Message- From: pro

RE: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Allen
To be honest Ted I'm not comfortable with Linux full stop. I don't get the time to learn basically, so what would be best is the simplest version to get to work. What I'm after is setting up a mail server to get rid of MS exchange. I want to be able to use multiple domains much as I can with IIS fo

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Ted Roche
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Allen wrote: > I used to like red hat but I've not used Linux for some time. Now I am > thinking of having a Linux server for mailing lists and to "play" with. What > the current "fav" For a stable, reliable OS with long-term supported apps and desktop, it's hard

RE: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Allen
I used to like red hat but I've not used Linux for some time. Now I am thinking of having a Linux server for mailing lists and to "play" with. What the current "fav" Al -Original Message- I'm liking the look of Mint more and more. ___ Post M

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Alan Bourke
On Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:14 AM, "Paul Hill" wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Alan Bourke > Debian worked fine (and is not much different to Ubuntu anyway). I'm liking the look of Mint more and more. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Paul Hill
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > > > On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:34 PM, "john harvey" > wrote: >> I like the way MS moves stuff around from version to version, and/or >> renames >> programs. It makes for less productivity and increased frustration. > > Used Ubuntu recent

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Alan Bourke
Anybody who wants a developer preview of Win 8 here it is: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/br229516 Don't all rush at once. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintena

Re: Foxpro 2.6 to Win 7

2011-09-14 Thread Alan Bourke
On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:19 PM, "Michael Madigan" wrote: > I've been perusing the leafe archives but am a little confused.   > > 1.  Will foxpro for windows 2.6 run on Win 7 32-bit as is?  > It should do, it's 64-bit-ness that nixes it. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (d

Re: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Alan Bourke
On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 5:46 PM, "Paul McNett" wrote: > Yep, the difference is that with Ubuntu and Mac, they improve things that > need > improving. With Windows, they add eye-candy Untrue. There is plenty more in Windows 7 than eye candy. And have you seen the next Ubuntu? And the f

RE: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Alan Bourke
On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:34 PM, "john harvey" wrote: > I like the way MS moves stuff around from version to version, and/or > renames > programs. It makes for less productivity and increased frustration. > Used Ubuntu recently? A new horizon in moving stuff around, and I hear the late

RE: [NF] Microsoft unveils a radically redesigned Windows 8

2011-09-14 Thread Dave Crozier
Maybe the simple truth is about OSX that they got the design right first time. Windows is still in Beta. Dave -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Paul McNett Sent: 14 September 2011 06:37 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF]