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2010-02-11 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Hmmm...want to open and view screens and data structures, but I don't have Access. Any alternative way to do this? I mean, is there a cool utility like vRunFox for Access to achieve my goal of viewing? tia! -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect h

[NF] Yahoo Pipes

2010-02-11 Thread Jarvis, Matthew
http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/ I saw a presentation on this a few months ago and it looked really slick... Thanks, Matthew Jarvis || Business Systems Analyst IT Department McKenzie-Willamette Medical Center 1460 G Street, Springfield, OR 97477 || Ph: 541-744-6092 || Fax: 541-744-6145

Re: [NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US.

2010-02-11 Thread Paul Hill
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: > Google is in business to create technology, not feed the poor. Google is ultimately in the advertisement business. Makes you wonder what they'll be monitoring... (says the man with a GMail account...) -- Paul

RE: [NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US.

2010-02-11 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
They don't work out here. My blackberry is very intermittent out here... Treo worked even worse -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 5:22 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [NF

RE: [NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US.

2010-02-11 Thread Michael Madigan
>From what I can see the bottleneck is actually in the wireless networks. Everyone has a smart phone now and I think a lot of hard-wired internet bandwidth will be replaced with ATT, Verizon, Sprint, etc.. --- On Thu, 2/11/10, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > From: Virgil Bierschwale > Subjec

RE: [NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US.

2010-02-11 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Yep, that is the bad part. A long time ago, people like us started inventing things like real time gps based tracking systems so that when an irate customer called wanting to know where his order was, we could tell them. But now those that control the infrastructure are using those same products

Re: [NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US.

2010-02-11 Thread Michael Madigan
Google is in business to create technology, not feed the poor. That should be up to the individual stock holders. > I would like to see Gargoyle do more things to benefit the > poor > instead of just suck up to those of us with .  > Where you live you > may see a lot more of their name in a

RE: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-11 Thread Jarvis, Matthew
> -Original Message- > From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] > On Behalf Of John J. Mihaljevic > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 9:43 AM > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > Subject: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer > > > So, what does everyone sug

Re: [NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US.

2010-02-11 Thread Paul McNett
On 2/11/10 3:00 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > I hear you.. > > And what google knows that everybody else doesn't know is that Really Really > fast speed will drive the next generation of products like real time > teleconfering, movies on demand and no telling what that hasn't been > invented yet.

Re: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-11 Thread Paul McNett
On 2/11/10 1:42 PM, Steve Ellenoff wrote: > While python may be a great language to learn, I am curious how many > opportunities exist out there. > > Surely there's no shortage of .NET jobs, but is the same true of > Python? Can Ed or someone else chime in? It is a smaller - but growing - pond, bu

RE: [NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US.

2010-02-11 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I hear you.. And what google knows that everybody else doesn't know is that Really Really fast speed will drive the next generation of products like real time teleconfering, movies on demand and no telling what that hasn't been invented yet.. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leaf

Re: [NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US.

2010-02-11 Thread Paul McNett
On 2/11/10 9:40 AM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > I could use it out here in the boonies. > > 1.5 meg is about the fastest here. And that's the download speed. Upload is likely a fraction of that. I think what Google intends is for gigabit download and a fraction of that upload, but hopefully th

Re: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-11 Thread Kevin Cully
I was hoping to get real serious in developing a cross platform application hitting a PostgreSQL database ... but my VFP work really kicked in. All I can say is that REAL Studio (Formerly known as REALbasic) is getting better and better. VFP developers can make the transition easily. I'm exp

RE: [NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US.

2010-02-11 Thread Kurt Wendt
Yeah - Pete - I saw his posting the other day - during the Swiss Guy e-mail flame wars! That was actually entertaining to read!!! :-) But, anyway - was just hoping to try to steer clear of slanderous comments here in the NF list. But, alas - it has failed - and this thread rapidly went down! Oh

Re: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-11 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 11, 2010, at 5:41 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: >> Or would >> you want to stick with a more mature crowd who likes to follow a >> waterfall style? > > > Waterfall style was dead years ago. Can't get much more mature than 'dead'! -- Ed Leafe ___

Re: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-11 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Stephen Russell wrote: > Or would > you want to stick with a more mature crowd who likes to follow a > waterfall style? Waterfall style was dead years ago. -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com http:

Re: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-11 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Kevin Cully wrote: > Hello John, > > I've found the transition from VFP to REAL Studio from REAL Software has > been very easy. > http://realsoftware.com/ Hi Kevin, How much work are you doing with Real now? -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect

Re: [NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US.

2010-02-11 Thread Pete Theisen
Paul Newton wrote: > Kurt Wendt wrote: >> Pete - I don't think that kind of Comment from you is advisable in this >> particular message thread - as you are NOW going to push this into [OT] >> territory - and that's AFTER you posted an [OT] message here yesterday >> by mistake AGAIN! >> >> So - plea

Re: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-11 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 11, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: > The person starting this request still needs to define what he wants > to be doing. Only after that point can we even think of a tool that > is best to learn. Well, duh. But I was answering a very specific question from Steve Elleno

Re: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-11 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: > On Feb 11, 2010, at 4:42 PM, Steve Ellenoff wrote: > >> Surely there's no shortage of .NET jobs, but is the same true of >> Python? Can Ed or someone else chime in? > >        There are tons of .Net jobs, just like 10 years ago there were tons of

Re: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-11 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 11, 2010, at 4:42 PM, Steve Ellenoff wrote: > Surely there's no shortage of .NET jobs, but is the same true of > Python? Can Ed or someone else chime in? There are tons of .Net jobs, just like 10 years ago there were tons of VB jobs. And like then, you'll be competing with a bunc

Re: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-11 Thread Steve Ellenoff
While python may be a great language to learn, I am curious how many opportunities exist out there. Surely there's no shortage of .NET jobs, but is the same true of Python? Can Ed or someone else chime in? TIA- Steve At 01:16 PM 02/11/2010, you wrote: >John, > >I encourage you to think out of

Re: [NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US.

2010-02-11 Thread Paul Newton
Kurt Wendt wrote: > Pete - I don't think that kind of Comment from you is advisable in this > particular message thread - as you are NOW going to push this into [OT] > territory - and that's AFTER you posted an [OT] message here yesterday > by mistake AGAIN! > > So - please be more careful of the [

Re: [NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US.

2010-02-11 Thread Pete Theisen
Kurt Wendt wrote: > Pete - I don't think that kind of Comment from you is advisable in this > particular message thread - as you are NOW going to push this into [OT] > territory - and that's AFTER you posted an [OT] message here yesterday > by mistake AGAIN! > > So - please be more careful of the

Re: [NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US.

2010-02-11 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Paul McNett wrote: > I think they could absorb it for the stated 50,000 to 500,000 initial > rollout. How > much would it really cost for them to bring fiber to my house from where AT&T > has > already brought it to the street corner, about 250 feet away. > > Co

Re: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-11 Thread Jeff Johnson
Gang: I replied to the wrong message. Sorry for the bandwidth. Ed: This was a follow up to my previous email. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Jeff Johnson wrote: > Ed: I meant to send you the URL: > > http://www.silverw.com/index.html > > They

Re: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-11 Thread Jeff Johnson
Ed: I meant to send you the URL: http://www.silverw.com/index.html They are sending their people to NAV certification school so they can learn to program their new direction. FAIL! Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Ed Leafe wrote: > On Feb 11, 201

Re: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-11 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 11, 2010, at 1:51 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: > Not knowing your age would you feel comfortable around young men and > women that may be fresh out of college who are doing ..? Or would > you want to stick with a more mature crowd who likes to follow a > waterfall style? Or wou

Re: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-11 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:43 AM, John J. Mihaljevic wrote: > I've been working in VFP (and earlier versions of the product) for years, > but with my company probably being sold this year, I feel it's time to begin > educating myself in other languages. - What do you want to

Re: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-11 Thread Jeff Johnson
John: I work for myself so I have complete choice over my tools. For speed I am still developing in VFP7 and VFP9. Placing runtimes with the application allows me to deploy on terminal servers, Vista etc. I am moving toward Python and Dabo. The way I see it is that Python is like VFP with a

Re: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-11 Thread Malcolm Greene
John, I encourage you to think out of the box and take a look at Python. Real OS portability. A rich set of portable libraries ("batteries included"), and freedom from Microsoft's tendency to re-invent the wheel every few years. There are a ton of free Python resources and many very active Python

RE: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-11 Thread Kevin O'Shea
I've recently started working with C#. There is a free resource - ".NET for Visual FoxPro Developers" written by Kevin McNeish - at http://foxcentral.net/microsoft/NETforVFPDevelopers.htm that is available to help transition you from VFP. I'd like to check out Python as well, but just not enough t

RE: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-11 Thread Tracy Pearson
I'm not sure where the rest of the world will go. I know the company I'm with is looking at .NET. LearnDevNow.com and LearnCertNow.com are online versions of the AppDev training. I've gotten a subscription to the LearnDevNow site. These are just the videos, not the associated materials. Just star

Re: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-11 Thread Kevin Cully
Hello John, I've found the transition from VFP to REAL Studio from REAL Software has been very easy. http://realsoftware.com/ Of course, Dabo/Python is a great free, OSS choice. -Kevin John J. Mihaljevic wrote: > Hi all, > > > > I've been working in VFP (and earlier versions of the produc

Re: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-11 Thread Jean Laeremans
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > I wrote a small program last year in vb.nett questions of >forget the exact problem as its been several years now h A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenanc

RE: .NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-11 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Les Pinter has a good vfp to .net book. You can find it on amazon or pinter.com I wrote a small program last year in vb.net that ported rememdy help desk files to access and then developed a front end to it and it wasn't that difficult (once I found somebody to ask .net questions of), yet I did ru

.NET and other languages for a VFP developer

2010-02-11 Thread John J. Mihaljevic
Hi all, I've been working in VFP (and earlier versions of the product) for years, but with my company probably being sold this year, I feel it's time to begin educating myself in other languages. So, what does everyone suggest? What's easiest for a VFP person to learn? What languages are mo

RE: [NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US.

2010-02-11 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I could use it out here in the boonies. 1.5 meg is about the fastest here. Virgil http://www.KeepAmericaAtWork.com -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Paul McNett Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:25 AM To: profox@leafe.co

Re: [NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US.

2010-02-11 Thread Paul McNett
On 2/11/10 9:25 AM, Paul McNett wrote: > On 2/11/10 6:43 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:44 AM, Alan Bourke >> wrote: >>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8509110.stm >>> >>> They're creating their own proprietary internet, you wait and see. >>> -- >> >> I wonder how

Re: [NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US.

2010-02-11 Thread Paul McNett
On 2/11/10 6:43 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:44 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8509110.stm >> >> They're creating their own proprietary internet, you wait and see. >> -- > > I wonder how they are going to fund the DELIVERY to end users? C

RE: [NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US.

2010-02-11 Thread Jarvis, Matthew
> -Original Message- > From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] > On Behalf Of Alan Bourke > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:44 AM > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > Subject: [NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/h

RE: [NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US.

2010-02-11 Thread Kurt Wendt
Pete - I don't think that kind of Comment from you is advisable in this particular message thread - as you are NOW going to push this into [OT] territory - and that's AFTER you posted an [OT] message here yesterday by mistake AGAIN! So - please be more careful of the [OT] stuff - just a friendly s

Re: [NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US.

2010-02-11 Thread Pete Theisen
Bill Arnold wrote: > Alan, > >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8509110.stm >> >> They're creating their own proprietary internet, you wait and see. > > It seems there are several big players, including those at the country level > (Iran, China, others) who are moving in the direction of

Re: [NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US.

2010-02-11 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:44 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8509110.stm > > They're creating their own proprietary internet, you wait and see. > -- I wonder how they are going to fund the DELIVERY to end users? Can you see them getting connections to key business

Re: Data reading problem from a fingerprint reader through Ocx

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RE: [NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US.

2010-02-11 Thread Bill Arnold
Alan, > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8509110.stm > > They're creating their own proprietary internet, you wait and see. It seems there are several big players, including those at the country level (Iran, China, others) who are moving in the direction of fragmenting the Internet as we

RE: [NF] windows 2003 sb server

2010-02-11 Thread Allen
Thanks Alan that was so helpful, it answers the whole problem Thanls Al -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bourke Sent: 11 February 2010 10:11 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] windows 2003 sb server > Hi

RE: [NF] windows 2003 sb server

2010-02-11 Thread Alan Bourke
> Hi Alan > I guess this could be the case, is it just business servers? Well, you could dig it up from the MS site but Wikipedia summarizes it nicely as ever: Only one computer in the domain can be running Windows Small Business Server. That is not to say that the domain only supports a single

RE: [NF] windows 2003 sb server

2010-02-11 Thread Allen
Hi Alan I guess this could be the case, is it just business servers? After all a web server and data server must be ok. Have you got information on the subject? Al -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bourke Sent: 11

[NF] Google to offer gigabit-speed internet in the US.

2010-02-11 Thread Alan Bourke
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8509110.stm They're creating their own proprietary internet, you wait and see. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.c

Re: [NF] windows 2003 sb server

2010-02-11 Thread Alan Bourke
Is it still the case that you can't have two Small Business servers on the same domain ? -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT

RE: Data reading problem from a fingerprint reader through Ocx

2010-02-11 Thread Bill Arnold
Naeem, Did you try something simple, like: == Event OnData == *** ActiveX Control Event *** LPARAMETERS cindata THISFORM.TxtPollData.Value = "Data: "+ cindata THISFORM.TxtPollData.Refresh * if this doesn't work, try logging the "Data: ..." message each time it's

RE: Data reading problem from a fingerprint reader through Ocx

2010-02-11 Thread naeem
Hi, Yes, also tried this. Thanks Naeem > Did you try DOVENTS FORCE? > > rk > > -Original Message- > From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] > On Behalf Of na...@syedjunaidalam.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:55 PM > To: profoxt...@leafe.com >

RE: Data reading problem from a fingerprint reader through Ocx

2010-02-11 Thread naeem
Hi, Foxpro program is running under windows xp professional. The machine is using TCP protocol with a fixed IP address on my Lan. The local supplier also gave me the VB source code for their ocx. Does anyone help me to check this vb code? Thanks Naeem > I know it may not make a lot of sense, but