Randy a écrit :
> mouss wrote:
>> Joey a écrit :
>> [snip]
>>> You feel like we are doing you a disservice unintentionally because
>>> we may
>>> be blocking your IP, but in reality the other people in Poland who are
>>> exploiting the internet are to blame. :(
reread the last sentence.
>>
>> If
mouss wrote:
Joey a écrit :
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Zbigniew Szalbot
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 12:06 PM
To: Postfix users
Subject: Re: Finally blocking some spam
I am still using spamhaus at the RBL
Hello,
I just wanted to update everyone since it was a bit heated in respect to the
methods I was using.
Our maillog file shows that we have rejected 3,365,962 month to date.
This is above and beyond my original firewall rules, and then my new over the
top added country based CIDR rules.
This i
On 10/20/2008, Joey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Running spamassasin on every domain we support will kill the server
> CPU wise and again as in my messages before it's about reducing
> overhead. I am abusing some RBL's in some cases so I need to reduce
> connections.
I highly recommend checking o
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of j debert
> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 12:53 PM
> To: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Subject: Re: Finally blocking some spam
>
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> Ha
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Joey さんは書きました:
~ SNIP!
|
| Any suggestions you have to help me reduce the load on the servers,
| and the junk in the mailbox are welcome, and I can assure you I
| will try just about anything as you can see by my blanketed IP
| method which for ref
Joey wrote:
[...]
I made a list from the web of IP’s in the following countries:
asian.list
czech.list
internal-h.list
internal-m.list
india.list
poland.list
turkey.list
[...]
Instead, use RelayCountry plugin of SpamAssassin. Using RelayContry
plugin is more smooth than your the way.
And mo
Joey wrote, at 10/17/2008 09:14 PM:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of j debert
>> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 11:26 AM
>> To: postfix-users@postfix.org
>> Subject: Re: Finally
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of j debert
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 11:26 AM
> To: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Subject: Re: Finally blocking some spam
>
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Joey さんは書きました:
|> -Original Message-
|> From: Jorey Bump [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 6:09 PM
|> To: Joey
|> Cc: postfix-users@postfix.org
|> Subject: Re: Finally blocking some spam
|>
|&
Charles Marcus a écrit :
> On 10/13/2008 5:33 PM, Joey wrote:
>>> I prefer the animating contest of freedom (and that includes learning
>>> how to deal with spam), rather than give over absolute despotic control
>>> of the internet to any government agency, which is what you are in
>>> essence 'pip
On 10/13/2008 5:33 PM, Joey wrote:
>> I prefer the animating contest of freedom (and that includes learning
>> how to deal with spam), rather than give over absolute despotic control
>> of the internet to any government agency, which is what you are in
>> essence 'pipe-dreaming' about.
> Agreed, h
Joey пишет:
Imagine with a 6GB monthly maillog how long this process can take, it's just
too time consuming.
No, I cant imagine 6Gb, only 2Gb ;)
[machine that I administer] mail # ls -l postfix.*
-rw-r- 1 root adm16258536 Окт 14 23:31 postfix.log
-rw-r- 1 root root 1923487124 Сен
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Nikita Kipriyanov
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:32 AM
> To: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Subject: Re: Finally blocking some spam
>
> Joey wrote:
> > I agree, how
Joey wrote:
I agree with you and that may be the case for us as well in respect to US
spam.
I can only tell you that in 4 days we have blocked at the firewall level (
on only 1 server )
161,166 connections from Poland
1,184,747 connections from Turkey
418,162 connections from Russia
53,656 conne
Joey wrote:
I agree, however who has these lists. The only place I have found is the
http://www.okean.com I keep referring to.
I have asked on the list before if anyone else has similar resource with no
luck.
I have also searched the web without resolve.
Have you tried a whois service? Just f
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008, Joey wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 6:06 PM
To: Joey
Cc: postfix-users@postfix.org
Subject: RE: Finally blocking some spam
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008, Joey wrote:
-Original Message
> -Original Message-
> From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 6:06 PM
> To: Joey
> Cc: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Subject: RE: Finally blocking some spam
>
>
>
> On Mon, 13 Oct 2008, Joey wrote:
>
> >
> -Original Message-
> From: Jorey Bump [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 6:09 PM
> To: Joey
> Cc: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Subject: Re: Finally blocking some spam
>
> Joey wrote, at 10/13/2008 05:10 PM:
> Make sure you count t
inally blocking some spam
What anti-spam measurements do you currently use?
What does your main.cf look like?
(Snip)
reject_rbl_client dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net, reject_rbl_client
psbl.surriel.com,reject_rbl_client ix.dnsbl.manitu.net,
check_recipient_access hash:/etc/postfix/filtered_d
> -Original Message-
> From: Jorey Bump [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 6:09 PM
> To: Joey
> Cc: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Subject: Re: Finally blocking some spam
>
> > I don't think anyone can argue that these numbers are not t
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Joey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Aaron Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 5:56 PM
>> To: Joey
>> Cc: postfix-users@postfix.org
>> Subject: Re: Fina
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Justin Piszcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 13 Oct 2008, Joey wrote:
>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 5:37 PM
>>>
> -Original Message-
> From: Aaron Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 5:56 PM
> To: Joey
> Cc: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Subject: Re: Finally blocking some spam
>
> you might want to consider the invaluement Anti-Spam DNSBL
> h
Joey wrote, at 10/13/2008 05:10 PM:
> I can only tell you that in 4 days we have blocked at the firewall level (
> on only 1 server )
> 161,166 connections from Poland
> 1,184,747 connections from Turkey
> 418,162 connections from Russia
> 53,656 connections from Czech
> 1,613,636 connections from
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008, Joey wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 5:37 PM
To: Joey
Subject: RE: Finally blocking some spam
What anti-spam measurements do you currently use?
What does your main.cf look like?
(Snip
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:31:54 -0700 (PDT)
"Daniel V. Reinhardt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Im from the US, and i do not get that 403.
I am in the US, and I am receiving a '403' error.
--
Gerard
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TO REPORT A PROBLEM see http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html#mail
TO (UN)SUBSC
Joey wrote:
The best list I have found is http://www.okean.com/ which is only known
spammers from those countries.
I don't see anywhere on that web site that they claim to list
only spammers.
In fact, they claim to list *all* Chinese and Korean IP
network blocks.
If you want to block al
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Joey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 5:37 PM
>> To: Joey
>> Subject: RE: Finally blocking some spam
>>
>>
postfix.org
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 9:45:36 PM
Subject: Re: Finally blocking some spam
Daniel V. Reinhardt wrote:
>
>
> Just to make sure I'm not crazy here, you can't get access to
> http://www.okean.com ?
>
> Links to screenshots of what I see ( right now )
> ht
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 5:45 PM, J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Daniel V. Reinhardt wrote:
>>
>>
>> Just to make sure I'm not crazy here, you can't get access to
>> http://www.okean.com ?
>>
>> Links to screenshots of what I see ( right now )
>> http://web56.net/images/download/screenshot1.jp
> -Original Message-
> From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 5:37 PM
> To: Joey
> Subject: RE: Finally blocking some spam
>
> What anti-spam measurements do you currently use?
>
> What does your main.cf look like?
Daniel V. Reinhardt wrote:
>
>
> Just to make sure I'm not crazy here, you can't get access to
> http://www.okean.com ?
>
> Links to screenshots of what I see ( right now )
> http://web56.net/images/download/screenshot1.jpg
> http://web56.net/images/download/screenshot2.jpg
>
That's interesting. I
On Oct 13, 2008, at 17:35, Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Oct 13, 2008, at 16:43, "Issac Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
I agree that it doesn't make sense to ban an entire country, but
what about banning an ISP that won't crack down on spammers?
Then, if you're running a legit b
On Oct 13, 2008, at 16:43, "Issac Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I agree that it doesn't make sense to ban an entire country, but
what about banning an ISP that won't crack down on spammers?
Then, if you're running a legit business, don't work with ISPs that
have lax rules, and everybody
ct: RE: Finally blocking some spam
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of J Sloan
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 5:20 PM
> To: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Subject: Re: Finally blocking some spam
>
> mouss wrote:
> >
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Charles Marcus
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 5:28 PM
> To: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Subject: Re: Finally blocking some spam
>
> On 10/13/2008, Joey ([EMAIL PROTECTE
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of J Sloan
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 5:20 PM
> To: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Subject: Re: Finally blocking some spam
>
> mouss wrote:
> > Joey a écrit :
> >
On 10/13/2008, Joey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Somewhere government ( which I dont want them to control, but is the
> only one that can step in ) has to step in and setup hard and fast
> laws and rules based on a committee of knowledgable people ( Wietse
> etc ) to create a system which requires
mouss wrote:
> Joey a écrit :
>
>> One thing I didn't think of on this, is that the list from spamhaus will be
>> the same I am already rejecting via RBL and while it is local, it would
>> still not include all the IP's I am using from these other heavy spam
>> countries.
>>
>
>
> you can b
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Issac Kelly
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:44 PM
To: postfix-users@postfix.org
Subject: Re: Finally blocking some spam
I agree that it doesn't make sense to ban an entire country, but what about
banning an ISP that won't
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of mouss
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:43 PM
> To: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Subject: Re: Finally blocking some spam
>
> Joey a écrit :
> >
> > One thing I didn&
Joey said:
I would like to know everyone's techniques... but yes there goes that
completive advantage you mentioned.
I get no spam whatsoever (zero, nil, zip) because my mailer rejects email
from *all* countries.
:-)
Seriously, rejecting emails from a complete country is overkill. Might kil
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of mouss
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:34 PM
> To: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Subject: Re: Finally blocking some spam
>
> Joey a écrit :
> >> -Original Message
TED]>
To: Joey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: postfix-users@postfix.org
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 8:24:45 PM
Subject: Re: Finally blocking some spam
Joey wrote, at 10/13/2008 03:50 PM:
> You feel like we are doing you a disservice unintentionally because we may
> be blocking your IP, b
I agree that it doesn't make sense to ban an entire country, but what about
banning an ISP that won't crack down on spammers?
Then, if you're running a legit business, don't work with ISPs that have lax
rules, and everybody is happy, no?
--issac kelly
Joey a écrit :
>
> One thing I didn't think of on this, is that the list from spamhaus will be
> the same I am already rejecting via RBL and while it is local, it would
> still not include all the IP's I am using from these other heavy spam
> countries.
you can build your own "reputation list".
> -Original Message-
> From: Jorey Bump [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:25 PM
> To: Joey
> Cc: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Subject: Re: Finally blocking some spam
>
> Joey wrote, at 10/13/2008 03:50 PM:
>
> > You feel l
>
>
> On 13 Oct 2008, at 15:00, Joey wrote:
> >> Joey wrote, at 10/13/2008 01:42 PM:
> >>
> >> Many school and government sites (not to mention China) can't seem to
> >> configure rDNS and FCrDNS properly. I have given up trying to contact
> >> offending sites. Too often, they decide the solution
Joey a écrit :
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Zbigniew Szalbot
>> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 12:06 PM
>> To: Postfix users
>> Subject: Re: Finally blocking some spam
>>
>>&g
Joey wrote, at 10/13/2008 03:50 PM:
> You feel like we are doing you a disservice unintentionally because we may
> be blocking your IP, but in reality the other people in Poland who are
> exploiting the internet are to blame. :(
Glass houses... It may be true that your users can afford to give Po
On 13 Oct 2008, at 15:00, Joey wrote:
Joey wrote, at 10/13/2008 01:42 PM:
Many school and government sites (not to mention China) can't seem to
configure rDNS and FCrDNS properly. I have given up trying to contact
offending sites. Too often, they decide the solution is simply to
drop
the rec
Joey wrote:
I have at this point had NO false positives and have seen in my own personal
spam a reduction of 90%.
You will never see any false positives - those who aren't spammers
simply think that your server gone away, even they aren't able to say to
you anything...
This method won't be
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Zbigniew Szalbot
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 12:06 PM
> To: Postfix users
> Subject: Re: Finally blocking some spam
>
> > I am still using spamhaus at the RBL leve
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 12:54 PM
> To: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Subject: Re: Finally blocking some spam
>
> >> A spamhaus data feed for 1-5,000 commercial users is $1850/year... You
> >> really should consider subscribing, rather than fighting
> -Original Message-
> From: Jorey Bump [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 2:35 PM
> To: Joey
> Cc: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Subject: Re: Finally blocking some spam
>
> Joey wrote, at 10/13/2008 01:42 PM:
>
> > You reach a poin
Joey wrote, at 10/13/2008 01:42 PM:
> You reach a point where the money we think we are profiting from
> services sucks up all our time and resources and somehow we have to
> reduce that overhead and SPAM. Imagine that we are blocking millions
> of spam messages a month through various methods and
> -Original Message-
> From: Jorey Bump [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 12:51 PM
> To: Joey
> Cc: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Subject: Re: Finally blocking some spam
>
> Joey wrote, at 10/13/2008 11:57 AM:
>
> > For us greylisti
Joey a écrit :
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> On Behalf Of Victor Duchovni
>> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 11:38 AM
>> To: postfix-users@postfix.org
>> Subject: Re: Finally blo
Joey wrote, at 10/13/2008 11:57 AM:
> For us greylisting was a problem because it put a big delay on email when you
> were sitting waiting for a message from someone you were talking to, but that
> catches A LOT of email.
Consider Nolisting. It doesn't have the delay associated with
greylisting
> I am still using spamhaus at the RBL level wouldn't that be the same?
> I am trying to reduce overhead by getting it at the point of connection at
> the firewall level.
We run a large subscription service. It happens that our server is
located in Poland. Thanks to your policy, your users won't b
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Victor Duchovni
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 11:38 AM
> To: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Subject: Re: Finally blocking some spam
>
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 11:3
> -Original Message-
> From: chteh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 11:38 AM
> To: Joey
> Subject: Re: Finally blocking some spam
>
> Dear Joey,
>
> Thanks for your email, I am running 3 postfix mail servers too in our
> research l
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 11:33:15AM -0400, Joey wrote:
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> I just wanted to share my success with you guys. I have been on the list
> for many years running 3 postfix servers. We don't have a lot of clients,
> but enough to warrant millions of connections a month by spammers.
Hello All,
I just wanted to share my success with you guys. I have been on the list
for many years running 3 postfix servers. We don't have a lot of clients,
but enough to warrant millions of connections a month by spammers.
I have been using the RBL's along with other methods but we still g
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