> > > On 13 Oct 2008, at 15:00, Joey wrote: > >> Joey wrote, at 10/13/2008 01:42 PM: > >> > >> Many school and government sites (not to mention China) can't seem to > >> configure rDNS and FCrDNS properly. I have given up trying to contact > >> offending sites. Too often, they decide the solution is simply to > >> drop > >> the recipient from a mailing list, instead of correcting their DNS > >> records to improve the robustness of their mailings. It's a shame, > >> because things got pretty quiet on my test domains during the weeks I > >> implemented reject_unknown_(reverse_)client_hostname. > >> > >> Requiring encryption is a pipe dream, and as Wietse has mentioned, > >> introduces a greater risk of exposing bugs as a result of linking > >> to a > >> large base of external code. > > > > Somewhere government ( which I don't want them to control, but is > > the only one that can step in ) has to step in and setup hard and > > fast laws and rules based on a committee of knowledgable people > > ( Wietse etc ) to create a system which requires registration and > > has accountability for when spam is sent through your equipment. > > At this point though I think of that as a pipe dream and we each as > > admins have to take whatever methods work for us to accomplish the > > goal. > > > > Quite honestly, I'd rather deal with the spammers using existing > techniques than have the government step in. I won't claim to be an > expert on governments and governance by any means; but from what I've > seen, it's only by accident if a government ever conjoins individuals > who understand what they're doing with the right amount of authority. > And good luck getting any special interest groups out of the way of > the public good... (Someone should probably make a General Public > lobbying group. =\ ) >
This is true... sometimes a small group won't have the same attention getting power as the US government which is where I think we could benefit. > Correct me if I'm wrong; but it seems like services like Gmail seem to > do a decent job at managing spam; so I don't think it's impossible... > (I just wish they'd be a little more forthcoming about what they do, > though I have do doubt they'll claim that it would kill their > competitive advantage.) > > -N. > Google still gets spam, as an example from the 2nd of October to now I have 83 spam messages in the spam folder. They do identify it very well as I rarely see a spam message in the inbox, however they have used all the resources needed to process and store all those spam messages, checked it against rbls's etc. By the way I do NOT tell anyone my Gmail address so it's interesting that I get that much spam. On another note they have the financial resources as well. I would like to know everyone's techniques... but yes there goes that completive advantage you mentioned. Joey
