Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

Within WorldState>>doOneCycle, try writing to a file every second, and at the command line use...tail -f ... to see if it keeps writing when the screen is frozen. And also try writing to a file in a forked process. cheers -ben On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 1:58 AM, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > But

Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode

Le 27/08/2017 à 02:52, Damien Pollet a écrit : > Sure it is… AFAIK the light theme is still available in the settings > There is also the possibility to do it through the welcome window. -- Cyril Ferlicot https://ferlicot.fr http://www.synectique.eu 2 rue Jacques Prévert 01, 59650 Villeneuve d

Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode

Oh, cool! I didn't realize that. (I've never had a need to look at Settings.) Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Dark-Mode-tp4964409p4964436.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-users] Dark Mode

Sure it is… AFAIK the light theme is still available in the settings On 27 August 2017 at 00:40, horrido wrote: > I found this interesting article > for-people-like-molly-watt-ae9fdc38479f> > . I wanted to express my opinion... > > Da

Re: [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] [ann] moldable editor - with expandable elements

Hi Tim, Thanks for the kind words. What you see now is only the first more tangible effect of what Bloc represents. Expect significantly more :). Cheers, Doru > On Aug 26, 2017, at 9:56 AM, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > > Guys - this is absolutely astounding. 6 months ago I tagged a tweet with > #

[Pharo-users] Dark Mode

I found this interesting article . I wanted to express my opinion... Dark mode looks cool and all, but it does have a downside. I was very happy with the normal Pharo 5.0 look, but when Pharo 6.0

Re: [Pharo-users] The Wisdom of the Crowd Redux

Quite right. When you tout the wisdom of the crowd, you have to back it up with simple, persuasive arguments. That's what my blog series over the past three years have been all about! I just keep hammering away at the same simple, persuasive arguments again and again and again and again. Ad nauseum

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] moldable editor - with expandable elements

Hi Tim, 2017-08-26 23:27 GMT+02:00 Tim Mackinnon : > I think you pose some interesting design challenges - but it's worthy of > experimentation. > > I share Denis' enthusiasm to build something better - but it's true it's > not an easy problem space. > > I'm a big fan of GTInspector, but sometime

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] moldable editor - with expandable elements

I think you pose some interesting design challenges - but it's worthy of experimentation. I share Denis' enthusiasm to build something better - but it's true it's not an easy problem space. I'm a big fan of GTInspector, but sometimes I slide across and lose my context (not always, and not for

[Pharo-users] The Spec UI Framework. first translation to korean finish.

hello. for pharo guys. Long time no see. It is not easy for Korean people to study pharo. Very few people use smalltalk. Of course, it is hard to find Korean language resources. Recently I went to find the spec framework to study Pharo. Of course I looked at morphic designer in squeak, but I beli

[Pharo-users] pillar image in external link (or html a tag)

Hi, how can I embed an image into an anchor in Pillar? I've tried *+Pharo>https://pharo.org/web/files/pharo.png+>http://pharo.org/* I've also tried to create document by hand and export it, but every single exporter failed on it. doc := PRDocument new add: (PRExternalLink new reference: 'http:

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

Thanks for keep me posted about your experiments. I would like to know where the current interface doesn't suit your needs/tastes and how easy was to use/extend the tool. I think that mind mapping problem would be particularly well suited for your GUI approaches. Cheers, Offray On 26/08/17 14:5

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

mind mapping is an interest of mine too, though i never tried to make one app for it yet. Ok will see if I will go down the Grafoscopio route and will keep you posted. I was thinking using it as an in-image interface for the wiki. On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 10:15 PM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < of

Re: [Pharo-users] How to create a minimal image ?

Le 26/08/2017 à 21:43, Dimitris Chloupis a écrit : > is this the jenkis job you talking about ? > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/7.0/job/70-Bootstrap-32bit/ > > does the image work ? is it usable ? > Not sure but I think it is more this CI: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-ci-jenkins2/ -- Cyril Fer

Re: [Pharo-users] How to create a minimal image ?

is this the jenkis job you talking about ? https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/7.0/job/70-Bootstrap-32bit/ does the image work ? is it usable ? On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 9:45 PM Stephane Ducasse wrote: > look for bootstrapped image. > And we have a github repo and jenkins job to produce it. > Stef > >

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

That would be pretty interesting and yes, it is under MIT. On custom GUI's I have thought about a mind mapping interface for Grafoscopio, for presentations. I would like to stretch the tree/graph metaphor so it can make what we do with different metaphors right now on "offimatics" (writing, calcul

Re: [Pharo-users] How to create a minimal image ?

look for bootstrapped image. And we have a github repo and jenkins job to produce it. Stef On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > I remember that the website used to link to a minimal image download but it > does not seem there is one anymore > > Is still minimal image mainta

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

But it is a freeze or a screen refresh problem? Can you try to command . heavily on your frozen image? On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Ben Coman wrote: > Hi Ted, > > You might consider building a debug VM. There is a random chance it > provides useful insight. > At its simplest all you need to

[Pharo-users] How to create a minimal image ?

I remember that the website used to link to a minimal image download but it does not seem there is one anymore Is still minimal image maintained ? Are there ways to make a image minimal ? Are there any tools for this job ? Is there any kind of documentation about this ?

Re: [Pharo-users] Where do I find a Pillar syntax summary?

the most up to date description is in the web perspective book and not much changed since then. We are picky when it is about the changing the syntax so it nearly did not change. Stef On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 10:55 AM, H. Hirzel wrote: > At the moment my interest is to have a description of all t

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] moldable editor - with expandable elements

2017-08-26 15:44 GMT+02:00 Denis Kudriashov : > No Thierry, Newspeak do not allow it. And it not looks similar to what I > want. > Hum, you would still get the same overall approach: editor inside editor (or view inside view). Now, you can say it is not the same, up to you. For me, it has the sa

Re: [Pharo-users] SmartTest - ESUG 2017 - Trailer

:) I showed to benoit the GT teaser. Benoit could have put some questions like in yours and indeed this is really nice to get some fun around the award On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > The bar is getting higher :) > > Doru > > >> On Aug 24, 2017, at 10:18 PM, Stephane Ducass

Re: [Pharo-users] The Wisdom of the Crowd Redux

Yes, thanks for sharing it Richard. For me the issue with wisdom of the crowd arguments is, as you point at the end of the article, that also crowd can be pretty stupid, so when/how you difference between both cases? At some point seems like crowd is wise when they share my opinion and dumb when t

Re: [Pharo-users] Morphic renderer for Pillar?

Hi hannes "Ideally we should add the pillar element to the associated morphic to manage back link from the renderer to the pillar tree. But this is to be done." I meant that rendering is just one part of the story, that in the future you will want to click on the morph and - jump to the code - edi

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

Grafoscopio can display markdown files ? On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 5:38 PM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote: > Dimitris, > > I understand your practical reasons to have Markdown over Pillar and in > fact I have advocated several of them. As I have said, Markdown ubiqui

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

Dimitris, I understand your practical reasons to have Markdown over Pillar and in fact I have advocated several of them. As I have said, Markdown ubiquity for complete documentation workflows (including complete books) is similar to git ubiquity for code. Despite having other personal preferences

Re: [Pharo-users] Object>>#name deprecated in Pharo 6 -- what do I need to do?

Hannes You are certainly not required to eliminate #name altogether; all you have to do is to ensure that any object that receives the message #name knows how to answer its own name in an appropriate way. To rephrase Ben’s second para in a more long-winded way: a. Run the code that

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] moldable editor - with expandable elements

No Thierry, Newspeak do not allow it. And it not looks similar to what I want. Now command+click on selector opens implementors window. In past it moved browser to single implementor. It was nice and it is how other IDEs are working. But as Tim notice it always loses context. And it is quite diffi

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] moldable editor - with expandable elements

I'd forgotten about the newspeak browser - it was ages ago that I had a look, will try it again. My hunch is you want both - inline and new window sometimes. But as we're firing on all cylinders lately - revising old ideas is no bad thing and maybe we can do them better as things are starting

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] moldable editor - with expandable elements

2017-08-26 14:46 GMT+02:00 Denis Kudriashov : > > 2017-08-26 14:31 GMT+02:00 Tim Mackinnon : > >> Denis - that's a very cool idea if I've understood you - expand in the >> source code of the current method, literally inline? So you could scroll up >> and down to view the context as you expand it o

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

Hi Ted, You might consider building a debug VM. There is a random chance it provides useful insight. At its simplest all you need to do is... $ git clone https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git $ cd opensmalltalk-vm/build.macos32x86/pharo.cog.spur $ ./mvm -A taken from... https://g

Re: [Pharo-users] Object>>#name deprecated in Pharo 6 -- what do I need to do?

Just checking my presumption... is PPCMNode>>#gtTreeViewIn: you own application method? So where it sends #name, instead send #printString (or #asString). Alternatively, #name is being sent to some domain object that doesn't implement #name, so it falls back to the super one from Object. So im

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

Thank you for pointing me to the right direction. Because your images come from the presentation that is already linked in the wiki I do not think its necessary to further link those pages too. If you have something to add further to the documentation of Pillar I could make a separate page for Pill

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

Just realized that this diagram https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/book-result/PillarChap/figures/pillarOverview.png gives a good overview as well. Only the transformers are missing which are rather important as well. On 8/26/17, H. Hirzel

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pillar] How do I open the Pillar editor in Pharo 6?

In an image having Pillar, inspect a Pillar file. Something like this: ‘path/to/file.pillar' asFileReference Cheers, Doru > On Aug 26, 2017, at 9:56 AM, H. Hirzel wrote: > > Hello Doru > > On 8/26/17, Tudor Girba wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Just for information: Pillar already ships with a live ed

Re: [Pharo-users] Morphic renderer for Pillar?

The proper reference to the repository MCHttpRepository location: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pier/Pillar/main' user: '' password: '' On 8/26/17, H. Hirzel wrote: > Cyril, > > Thank you for the info where I can find the proof of concept done by > Kasper Østerbye > to rend

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] moldable editor - with expandable elements

Hi, This is achieved through the integration in Morphic we announced a couple of months ago. Now, Sparta offers: - two backends: Moz2D and Cairo - two host systems: SDL2 and Morphic By default, Bloc ships with Sparta working on Cairo and Morphic, and with this you can use any Bloc element insid

Re: [Pharo-users] Morphic renderer for Pillar?

Cyril, Thank you for the info where I can find the proof of concept done by Kasper Østerbye to render Pillar code in Morphic. I want to read the code and learn from it how to come up with an enhanced version of what Stephane D. was refering to http://smalltakhub.com/#!/~Pier/Pillar/packages/

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

Thanks for creating an overview paragraph about Pillar in the file https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/blob/master/wiki/contents/projects.md The three slides which given an overview of Pillar are screen shots taken from this document http://esug.org/data/ESUG2015/4%20thursday/1600-1630%20Pila

Re: [Pharo-users] Morphic renderer for Pillar?

Le 26/08/2017 à 10:31, H. Hirzel a écrit : > > Hello Cyril > > Thank you for these two references with some info to the > > Pillar-TextRenderer > > Kasper Østerbye did. Do you have an idea where I could find the code. > > I found nothing so far in > > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pier/

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

i linked everything else to the wiki but not these pdfs, are they hosted somewhere ? where you found them ? On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 12:23 PM H. Hirzel wrote: > On 8/26/17, H. Hirzel wrote: > > And > > > > Main repository: > > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pier/Pillar/main/ > > And the three slides

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

On 8/26/17, H. Hirzel wrote: > And > > Main repository: > http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pier/Pillar/main/ And the three slides which give a high-level overview of the Pillar system HH.

Re: [Pharo-users] Object>>#name deprecated in Pharo 6 -- what do I need to do?

OK, so #name should not be used at all [1] The error message I get is PPCommonMarkSpecTest class>>DoIt (blockVisitor is Undeclared) The method Object>>#name called from PPCMNode>>#gtTreeViewIn: has been deprecated. Implement your own domain representation of an object, or use #asString or #printS

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

And Main repository: http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pier/Pillar/main/ On 8/26/17, H. Hirzel wrote: > Dimitris, > > could you please add the three important Pillar links below I found > out about this week > > Tutorial > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfulBui

Re: [Pharo-users] Morphic renderer for Pillar?

On 8/26/17, Cyril Ferlicot D. wrote: > Hi, > > Back in 2015 there was Kasper Østerbye who did a Pillar-TextRenderer > > There is a screen slide 21: > http://esug.org/data/ESUG2015/4%20thursday/1600-1630%20Pilar/Pillar.pdf > > Here is the thread: > http://forum.world.st/Class-comments-rendered-in-N

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

Dimitris, could you please add the three important Pillar links below I found out about this week Tutorial https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/book-result/PillarChap Syntax summary http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsh

Re: [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] [ann] moldable editor - with expandable elements

Guys - this is absolutely astounding. 6 months ago I tagged a tweet with #pharoproject about why we put up with static source code when we can do so much more, and I'm stunned that in literally months this is a evolving around us. This community is awesome! Tim Sent from my iPhone > On 26 A

[Pharo-users] [Pillar] How do I open the Pillar editor in Pharo 6?

Hello Doru On 8/26/17, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > Just for information: Pillar already ships with a live editor with syntax > highlighting that I built a couple of years ago. Thank you for this information, Doru. Earlier this week I was looking for a "Pillar tool" in Pharo 6 and was told, tha

Re: [Pharo-users] Minimizing an Application

ah ok , thanks for the clarification , Craig and Tim , this makes more sense to me now :) On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 3:44 AM Craig Latta wrote: > > Hi-- > > > > > ...10mbs which is the size pharo image can be reduced to is > > > > nothing for todays TBs hard drives and GBs flash drives and > > > >