mind mapping is an interest of mine too, though i never tried to make one
app for it yet. Ok will see if I will go down the Grafoscopio route and
will keep you posted. I was thinking using it as an in-image interface for
the wiki.

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 10:15 PM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote:

> That would be pretty interesting and yes, it is under MIT.
>
> On custom GUI's I have thought about a mind mapping interface for
> Grafoscopio, for presentations. I would like to stretch the tree/graph
> metaphor so it can make what we do with different metaphors right now on
> "offimatics" (writing, calculation and presentation), so this custom
> metaphors are interesting to me.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Offray
>
> On 26/08/17 12:28, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
>
> How would you feel if I took grafoscopio and made a custom GUI for it,
> mainly for personal usage ? Does it use the MIT license ?
>
> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 6:56 PM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
> offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote:
>
>> No it can't. Grafoscopio Markdown nodes just plain text boxes with
>> Markdown code inside, but I would like to have at least syntax
>> hightlighting for it. What Grafoscopio can do is to traverse a tree and
>> process node headers as markdown titles, footnotes and others to produce a
>> flat Markdown file to be processed by Pandoc. Also, thanks to special
>> %metadata nodes in the tree, Grafoscopio can control & feedback the Pandoc
>> command line options *inside* the notebook, increasing reproducibility,
>> just by using plain Pharo dictionaries and dynamic arrays. Then, you can
>> use the Notebook menu to export as PDF by running such options from the GUI.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Offray
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26/08/17 10:31, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
>>
>> Grafoscopio can display markdown files ?
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 5:38 PM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
>> offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dimitris,
>>>
>>> I understand your practical reasons to have Markdown over Pillar and in
>>> fact I have advocated several of them. As I have said, Markdown ubiquity
>>> for complete documentation workflows (including complete books) is similar
>>> to git ubiquity for code. Despite having other personal preferences in
>>> markup and DVCS, I think is strategic to give them support in Pharo,
>>> without precluding any work on our own tools (Monticello, Metacello,
>>> Pillar, etc.).
>>>
>>> I'll try to make some experiments with integration of Documenter in
>>> Grafoscopio and Markdown. They'll advance slowly, because time constrains
>>> now that I'm trying to finish my thesis, but once a week I'll try to show
>>> advancements and make questions.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Offray
>>>
>>> On 26/08/17 01:55, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
>>>
>>> As I said the format is not so important for me, the reason why I chose
>>> markdown instead of pillar is because you can edit it using github web
>>> interface making it easier. The books will continue to use Pillar, because
>>> making a book is obviously a lot more sophisticated than creating a wiki
>>> that mainly has web links to various internet locations. Pillar already can
>>> export to markdown , latex, html and through latex it can also export to
>>> pdf.
>>>
>>> After Stef requested it, I moved the wiki inside the pharo git
>>> repository here
>>>
>>> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo
>>>
>>> I also added a link to it inside the git wiki of pharo
>>>
>>> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/wiki
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 2:17 AM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
>>> offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, we're going to have Markdown for the wiki and probably for
>>>> documentation (via GitBooks)..., which is not surprising considering the
>>>> vast amount of support such documentation format has and the extensions for
>>>> a complete documentation toolchain and features. As I said, I think that is
>>>> an important syntax and we should put Scholarly/Pandoc Markdown in the
>>>> radar for documentation support in Pharo. Is what I'm doing with
>>>> Grafoscopio and now that Pillar support is again taking momentum, the
>>>> infrastructure there (parsers, highlighters, editors) could be extended to
>>>> support Pandoc's Markdown.
>>>>
>>>> I'll keep you posted.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Offray
>>>>
>>>> On 24/08/17 17:59, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 11:32 PM Stephane Ducasse <
>>>> stepharo.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You have Netstyle/Workflow too.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> done
>>>>
>>>> "Why are you using markup documents to create the wiki when you could
>>>> use Github wiki itself?
>>>>
>>>> For portability?"
>>>>
>>>> good question. Yes for flexibility , another reason however is that
>>>> Github wiki is a separate repo and I did not want that because in the very
>>>> back of my head I am considering the option of creating software to allow
>>>> access to wiki from inside Pharo and I wanted to be all (content and code)
>>>> in the same repo. Its a very low priority for now.
>>>>
>>>> Also Github wiki is basically the same as I am doing with some extra
>>>> format (table of contents) , in my case I dont care because Github allows
>>>> me to define HTML templates that will format the wiki webpage and make it
>>>> look a a lot more polished that pharo wiki looks like. Generally there are
>>>> some cool stuff you can do with Markdown and Github , plus the fact that
>>>> markdown can embed HTML etc.
>>>>
>>>> There is also the option of Gitbook which has some nice features for
>>>> generating polished and well structured documentation.
>>>>
>>>> So I like to keep my options open. For now I am focusing 100% on
>>>> content.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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