Re: Weighing Up accessability

2007-07-19 Thread Dane Trethowan
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Re: Weighing Up accessability

2007-07-19 Thread Keith Gillard
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RE: creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread Caroline Ford
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Re: Weighing Up accessability

2007-07-19 Thread Dane Trethowan
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Re: creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread leslie ferrell
I'm not sure but do you happen do know the model number and how much was it? Thanks Leslie - Original Message - From: "Joe Bollard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pc -audio" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:23 AM Subject: creative zen stone > hello friends, i recently purchased the zen stone

creative z3en stone

2007-07-19 Thread Joe Bollard
hi friends, thanks for the info, i'm sort of glad i got the one gig version now, the fm radio doesn't appeal to me, i've got them coming out of my ears, [or should that be going in to my ears] and i have a couple of very good recorders, but thanks once again for all the help, one further question,

Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin

2007-07-19 Thread Chris Skarstad
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Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin

2007-07-19 Thread Dane Trethowan
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Re: Weighing Up accessability

2007-07-19 Thread Gary Wood
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creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread Chris Chaffin
Hi all, I just got my new zen stone today in the mail. I just plugged it up to my computer. How long does it take to charge initially? And do I have to wait until it is done charging, or will it play while it is hooked up to the computer charging? I just did not know if it can get its power fro

Re: Weighing Up accessability

2007-07-19 Thread Dane Trethowan
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Re: Weighing Up accessability

2007-07-19 Thread Christopher Chaltain
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Re: creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Yeah this is true, but the reviews I've read, as well as my own experience, says it's more like six to seven hours. The Creative Media Lite utility does tell you whether the Zen Stone has a full charge or not, so you can at least make sure you're starting off with a full battery. Kevin Lloyd wr

hand bells

2007-07-19 Thread Missy Hoppe
Hello. i know this is probably off topic, so if noting else, I would appreciate it if someone could point me in the direction of a list where this topic might be more appropriate. I just joined the women's hand bell choir at my church, and the director and I are looking for ways to make my parti

Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin

2007-07-19 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I agree there are plenty of people who seem to like to complain even though they don't know what they're talking about, but I don't think the blind are any more prone to doing this than the general population. I would like to think that the blind are better than the general population in many r

Re: creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread Christopher Chaltain
My Zen Stone doesn't play while it's hooked up to the computer. You don't have to wait until it's fully charged before you start listening to it though! :-) I haven't timed how long it takes to charge, but the Creative Media Lite utility will give you the current charge on the Zen Stone, so you

Re: Weighing Up accessability

2007-07-19 Thread Gary Wood
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Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin

2007-07-19 Thread Bruce Toews
I agree with you in all respects other than blind people being any better or worse than other people in any respects. bruce -- Bruce Toews Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw

Re: Weighing Up accessability

2007-07-19 Thread Dane Trethowan
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Transferring music to the computer from a mp3 player

2007-07-19 Thread Terri Elliott
I need directions on how to transfer music from a mp3 player to a computer. Thanks. Terri Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread Chris Chaffin
Hi, Several people have mentioned the creative media lite utility, and how you can monitor the zen stone's charging process with this utility. Where can I find this utility? I got no CD or anything with my zen stone. I just plugged it in my USB port, and it was ready to go. Any help with this wo

RE: W4a files I mean m4a.

2007-07-19 Thread Jason Boston
Well,I goofed. It should have been m4a. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:29 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: W4a files Right, I miss-read this message the first time around, I th

Re: recorders

2007-07-19 Thread Bob Seed
It is also a recorder that is recommended for broadcast professionals. - Original Message - From: "Samuel Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 4:15 AM Subject: Re: recorders >I find that the best one is the Ederol R09. It has two micr

Re: creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread Chris Skarstad
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Re: creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread Chris Skarstad
Hi. What do you mean by "the serial"?not sure about that? the only serial number I know of is a number that's found on the box of the package when you get it, and it's usually used to register your product. and in case anyone's doing searches for it, it's actually called the Creative Zen Stone,

Re: creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread leslie ferrell
thanks there are also some that are 2 gig. - Original Message - From: "Chris Skarstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:34 PM Subject: Re: creative zen stone > Hi. > What do you mean by "the serial"?not sure about that? the only seria

Re: creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread kevin and Emma
hi, there is a 2 gig version on the market now. kevin - (lord l) "Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice"-Will Durant contact me: email/msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: lordandladyl - Original Message - From: "Chris Skarstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC a

Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin

2007-07-19 Thread Dane Trethowan
Indeed and you'll find that Apple have done everything as far as the design allows to build accessability into this phone, go and look up I Phone accessability and you'll find at least 2 pages listing accessability features on this device. On 19/07/2007, at 4:41 PM, Gary Wood wrote: Well if

Windows Media Player on PDA and various formats

2007-07-19 Thread JardataMailServicesBox
Hello Cornell! The Cingular 8525 does have a memory card slot for more storage, but I am not sure how, or if, one could add memory to the phone. That's probably something one would have to take into a shop for I suppose, but I don't know. How does your wife add memory to her T-Mobile Phone?

Re: W4a files

2007-07-19 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hello! I have tried searching on google but the only thing that comes up is the following site. http://filext.com/file-extension/WDA You might check that out. IT seems not beeing an audio file though. /Anders. - Original Message - From: "Jason Boston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC audio di

RE: W4a files

2007-07-19 Thread Jason Boston
Hmmm It plays like an audio file and winamp can play it too. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 6:01 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: W4a files Hello! I have tried searching o

Re: creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread fudgeman2
Hi Leslie, I have one and like it very much. I got mine on Amazon.com and I think I paid $33.00 for it. But you can get different colors for $39.00. Hope this helps! Jim On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:25:29 -1000 "leslie ferrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was reading about the creative Zen key

Sound editor which works on flac files?

2007-07-19 Thread Matthew Bullis
Hello, is there an editor which will open up flac files to edit them, and then save back to flac when done? It would save me a step if I didn't have to convert to .wav, load the .wav in Sound Forge, save back to .wav, and convert again to flac. Thanks a lot. Matthew Audio List Help, Guidelines,

Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin

2007-07-19 Thread Keith Gillard
Um, Actually, The LGVX 4500 and Nokia 3rd generation phones have a TTS built in to the OS. rudimentary I admit but still, contrary to your statement...Keith - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7

Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin

2007-07-19 Thread Keith Gillard
Yup. If your visually impaired you might be able to squint and see the phone. Just another way to burn out what vision you may have left. It's really too bad though, as a simple MP3 talk clip style TTS of each menu and function would make this phone a real option for blind folk...Keith -

Re: W4a files

2007-07-19 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hello! Hmm, then i can not say anything about it. So i am also asking if someone else can help us out here? /Anders. - Original Message - From: "Jason Boston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:02 PM Subject: RE: W4a files > Hmmm

Re: Sound editor which works on flac files?

2007-07-19 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hello! GOldwave do this i think. It can open and save to flac. /Anders. - Original Message - From: "Matthew Bullis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:10 PM Subject: Sound editor which works on flac files? > Hello, is there an editor whi

Re: W4a files

2007-07-19 Thread Bruce Toews
Are you sure it's w4a and not m4a? Bruce On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:15:30 +0200, "Anders Holmberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hello! > Hmm, then i can not say anything about it. > So i am also asking if someone else can help us out here? > /Anders. > - Original Message - > From: "Jason Bosto

Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin

2007-07-19 Thread Gary Wood
Well in that case, I can say that everyone is sight impaired at some time or another. Something to be said for that! - Original Message - From: "Richard Claypool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:25 PM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPO

Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin

2007-07-19 Thread Dane Trethowan
I stand by what I said, the TTS was never put there with accessability in mind. On 19/07/2007, at 11:16 PM, Keith Gillard wrote: Um, Actually, The LGVX 4500 and Nokia 3rd generation phones have a TTS built in to the OS. rudimentary I admit but still, contrary to your statement...Keith

Re: Sound editor which works on flac files?

2007-07-19 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yep, Total Recorder will do just fine. On 19/07/2007, at 11:10 PM, Matthew Bullis wrote: Hello, is there an editor which will open up flac files to edit them, and then save back to flac when done? It would save me a step if I didn't have to convert to .wav, load the .wav in Sound Forge, save

Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin

2007-07-19 Thread Dane Trethowan
I must admit, I get a good laugh out of some people who just hunt around for excuses without actually reading fact, I guess that's the "blind" for you, easier to knock something than read or research something or try something. The I phone I admit is not perfect but neither are a million othe

Re: Sound editor which works on flac files?

2007-07-19 Thread Dane Trethowan
Ah excellent, thanks for posting this. On 20/07/2007, at 1:18 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hello! GOldwave do this i think. It can open and save to flac. /Anders. - Original Message - From: "Matthew Bullis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007

Re: COVERTING AND DEALING WITH LOSSLESS FORMATS

2007-07-19 Thread G. McFarlane
Thanks Kevin and Dane It's good to know that I won't lose anything between wav and another lossless format - it's tempting to believe that there must be some loss somewhere. I'm not sure what you're suggesting Dane - the file is in wav format just now with the Itunes library holding all the ta

Re: COVERTING AND DEALING WITH LOSSLESS FORMATS

2007-07-19 Thread Dane Trethowan
Ok well perhaps I didn't explain myself terribly accurately. I thought what you wanted to do was to convert from Apple Lossless to FLAC, to my knowledge, Itunes won't perform that conversion so you'd have to make or use an additional applescript if you were using Itunes with apple or a batc

Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin

2007-07-19 Thread Keith Gillard
I see that your also busy generating comments for which you have little or no research behind them. I suggest you might want to consider reviewing some of your earlier posts then maybe you might reframe from making such outlandish and arrogant statements...Keith - Original Message - F

Re: W4a files

2007-07-19 Thread Frank Brown
Hello, I've downloaded m4a and m4b files from the ABC and CNN web sites. These are the files you get when you try to download some of their podcasts. My guess is that they are Itunes files. As was mentioned earlier, they can also be played in Winamp. Frank Brown Audio List Help, Guideli

Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin

2007-07-19 Thread Chris Skarstad
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Re: W4a files

2007-07-19 Thread Dane Trethowan
They're video files, Itunes will handle them yes but Winamp should be able to handle them too, my Mobile phones play them etc. MP4 Video. On 20/07/2007, at 4:07 AM, Frank Brown wrote: Hello, I've downloaded m4a and m4b files from the ABC and CNN web sites. These are the files you get when yo

Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin

2007-07-19 Thread Dane Trethowan
Hmmm, not me, I'm very arrogant and outlandish so I doubt I'll change much. On 20/07/2007, at 4:09 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: I see that your also busy generating comments for which you have little or no research behind them. I suggest you might want to consider reviewing some of your earlier

Weighing Up accessability

2007-07-19 Thread Dane Trethowan
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Re: W4a files

2007-07-19 Thread Dane Trethowan
Right, I miss-read this message the first time around, I thought you were referring to mp4 files, the files you're downloading I can't comment on really but I suspect they're a varriant of what I've already written about in my previous message. On 20/07/2007, at 4:07 AM, Frank Brown wrote:

Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin

2007-07-19 Thread Keith Gillard
Well good on you dude! I think we are looking at access from two differing view points. I'll be the first to admit that I generally forget to consider the deaf/blind or partially sighted community when reviewing products or posting comments on accessibility. Total blindness is my world I gues

creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread Joe Bollard
hello friends, i recently purchased the zen stone player, delighted with it, unfortunately, i got the one gigabyte version, didn't know there was a two gig version until a week after i had purchased this one, but really no problem, for a totally blind person it is so easy to operate, just one thing

Re: Weighing Up accessability

2007-07-19 Thread Keith Gillard
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Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin

2007-07-19 Thread Dane Trethowan
The problem is with acessability that you're never really going to come up with a perfect product all of the time unless something is built for specific needs. Looking at the I Phone again, I told you about how one way this product could be made accessible, ok that means you have to carry a

Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin

2007-07-19 Thread Bruce Toews
You're also not going to find two people to whom access8ibility means exactly the same thing, either. Bruce On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:42:12 +1000, "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > The problem is with acessability that you're never really going to > come up with a perfect product all of

Re: COVERTING AND DEALING WITH LOSSLESS FORMATS

2007-07-19 Thread G. McFarlane
Thanks again Dane, I'm afraid I've no experience with setting up scripts in this way. If it's possible to get something which would allow conversion from Itunes to one of the other lossless formats I'd be greatly interested. Do you yourself have knowledge as to how I could incorporate this kind

Re: creative zen stone

2007-07-19 Thread Kevin Lloyd
Hey Joe. It's advertised running time on a full charge is 10 hours. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Joe Bollard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pc -audio" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:23 PM Subject: creative zen stone > hello friends, i recently pur

Re: COVERTING AND DEALING WITH LOSSLESS FORMATS

2007-07-19 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yep, get back to me privately and I'll see what I can do for you. On 20/07/2007, at 4:41 AM, G. McFarlane wrote: Thanks again Dane, I'm afraid I've no experience with setting up scripts in this way. If it's possible to get something which would allow conversion from Itunes to one of the other