[OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's No Objection on draft-ietf-oauth-amr-values-07: (with COMMENT)

2017-03-13 Thread Stephen Farrell
Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-oauth-amr-values-07: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-amr-values-05: (with DISCUSS)

2017-03-07 Thread Stephen Farrell
text. This is such a case - so thanks. > > I'll add this information, which is necessary to understand the > intent, and then republish. Ah good, that explains the disconnect. Cheers, S. > > -- Mike > > -Original Message- From: Stephen Farrell > [mailto:ste

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-amr-values-05: (with DISCUSS)

2017-03-06 Thread Stephen Farrell
e useful to RPs. Slicing things more finely than would be used > in practice actually hurts interop, rather than helping it, because > it would force all RPs to recognize that several or many different > values actually mean the same thing to them. > > > > -- Mike &g

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-amr-values-05: (with DISCUSS)

2017-03-06 Thread Stephen Farrell
ions that use some of these type-names, but the point of RFCs is not to "bless" such things, but to achieve interop.) " Cheers, S. > > Thanks, -- Mike > > -----Original Message- From: Mike Jones > [mailto:michael.jo...@microsoft.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017

[OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's No Objection on draft-ietf-oauth-jwsreq-12: (with COMMENT)

2017-02-15 Thread Stephen Farrell
Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-oauth-jwsreq-12: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-amr-values-05: (with DISCUSS)

2017-02-01 Thread Stephen Farrell
s that some biometrics fit that latter but I could be wrong. If they do, then one runs into the problem of having to depend on magic numbers in the encodings or similar to distinguish which is really error prone and likely to lead to what our learned transport chums are calling ossification;-) Cheers

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-amr-values-05: (with DISCUSS)

2017-02-01 Thread Stephen Farrell
DISCUSS) > > We have interoped between FIDO authenticators vendors and Windows > Hello > > -Original Message- From: Stephen Farrell > [mailto:stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie] Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 > 4:24 PM To: Mike Jones ; Anthony Nadalin > ; joel jaeggli

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-amr-values-05: (with DISCUSS)

2017-02-01 Thread Stephen Farrell
said, I can look at also finding appropriate references for > the remaining values that don't currently have them. (Anyone got a > good reference for password or PIN to suggest, for instance?) > > -- Mike > > -Original Message- From: Anthony Nadalin Sent: Wedne

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-amr-values-05: (with DISCUSS)

2017-02-01 Thread Stephen Farrell
o match the codepoint. If there's not, I don't see why adding a codepoint is useful. (Esp. if we're at the stage of testing "various iris devices" that I would guess do not get us interop.) Am I missing something? Cheers, S. > > -Original Message-

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-amr-values-05: (with DISCUSS)

2017-02-01 Thread Stephen Farrell
fined. > For all the initial values, that requirement is satisfied, since the > reference will be to the new RFC. I think that aligns with the point > that Joel was making. > > Your thoughts? > > -- Mike > > -Original Message- From: OAuth > [mailto:oauth-boun...@

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-amr-values-05: (with DISCUSS)

2017-02-01 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 01/02/17 14:58, joel jaeggli wrote: > On 1/31/17 8:26 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote: >> Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for >> draft-ietf-oauth-amr-values-05: Discuss >> >> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all

[OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-amr-values-05: (with DISCUSS)

2017-01-31 Thread Stephen Farrell
Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-oauth-amr-values-05: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to

Re: [OAUTH-WG] URGENT: WPAD attack exposes URL contents even over HTTPS

2016-07-27 Thread Stephen Farrell
Is there any information as to what percentage of browsers have a vulnerable configuration? That's not clear to me and seems relevant. My impression was that wpad wasn't that widely enabled in browsers nowadays, but that may well be wrong. S. On 27/07/16 01:15, Dick Hardt wrote: > http://arstech

[OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Yes on charter-ietf-oauth-04-00: (with COMMENT)

2016-01-19 Thread Stephen Farrell
Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for charter-ietf-oauth-04-00: Yes When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) The document, along with

[OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's No Objection on draft-ietf-oauth-proof-of-possession-10: (with COMMENT)

2015-12-17 Thread Stephen Farrell
Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-oauth-proof-of-possession-10: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg-28: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2015-05-05 Thread Stephen Farrell
sufficient to clear the DISCUSS. > > Thanks for your thoughtful review! > — Justin > >> On Apr 24, 2015, at 5:32 PM, Stephen Farrell >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 24/04/15 22:27, Justin Richer wrote: >>> Stephen, I’ve worked on t

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg-28: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2015-04-24 Thread Stephen Farrell
ake a more > informed registration request. The use of any such management or > discovery system is OPTIONAL and outside the scope of this > specification. > > Does this text work for you? It does, nicely. Thanks, S. > > — Justin > >> On

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg-28: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2015-04-24 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 24/04/15 13:28, Justin Richer wrote: >> > > It can get as bad as the web, which is pretty bad, but I hope we don't > have to point that out in great detail in every RFC that deals with the > web. :) I think the drive-by-download malware example is a good one, and > we could add another concre

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg-28: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2015-04-24 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 24/04/15 13:30, Justin Richer wrote: >> > > OK, so are you asking for something like: > > "If the server supports an update mechanism such as [Dyn-Reg-Management] > and a discovery mechanism such as [OIDC-Discovery], then a smart client > could use these components to renegotiate undesirable

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg-28: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2015-04-24 Thread Stephen Farrell
try to re-negotiate, but > that's a fairly sophisticated behavior. So could we just point at the relevant specs for that behaviour? (Not normatively, and I don't care if they're not RFCs.) S. > > Hope this helps, > -- Justin > > On 4/24/2015 8:09 AM, Stephen Farr

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg-28: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2015-04-24 Thread Stephen Farrell
So this is to follow up on my discuss point#2, which said: (2) If the response (defined in 3.2.1) includes metadata that the server has altered, but that the client doesn't like, then what does the client do? (It may be that that's ok, but I'm not following why that is the case.) I'm also not sur

[OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg-28: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2015-04-24 Thread Stephen Farrell
Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg-28: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to http

[OAUTH-WG] Fwd: [Unbearable] one proposal for a charter - please dicsuss

2014-12-08 Thread Stephen Farrell
+0000 From: Stephen Farrell To: unbeara...@ietf.org Hi all, There's about 70+ people on the list now so let's kick off. Andrei sent Kathleen and I the charter proposal below a while ago. For myself I don't think its quite right yet but I'd rather hear what you all think. S

Re: [OAUTH-WG] [http-auth] unbearable - new mailing list to discuss better than bearer tokens...

2014-12-06 Thread Stephen Farrell
endentid.com > phil.h...@oracle.com > >> On Dec 5, 2014, at 8:43 AM, Stephen Farrell >> wrote: >> >> >> Hiya, >> >> Following up on the presentation at IETF-91 on this topic, [1] >> we've created a new list [2] for moving that along. The li

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fwd: [websec] unbearable - new mailing list to discuss better than bearer tokens...

2014-12-06 Thread Stephen Farrell
gt;>>> >>>> John B. >>>>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 10:48 PM, Phil Hunt >wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Doesn't that duplicate our current work? >>>>> >>>>> Phil >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-token-27: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2014-11-11 Thread Stephen Farrell
-- Mike > > -Original Message- > From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mike Jones > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 8:33 PM > To: 'Stephen Farrell'; The IESG > Cc: oauth-cha...@tools.ietf.org; > draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-to...@tools.ie

[OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's No Objection on draft-ietf-oauth-assertions-18: (with COMMENT)

2014-10-21 Thread Stephen Farrell
Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-oauth-assertions-18: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-token-27: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2014-10-21 Thread Stephen Farrell
ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mike Jones >> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 7:20 PM >> To: Stephen Farrell; The IESG >> Cc: oauth-cha...@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-oauth-json-web- >> to...@tools.ietf.org; oauth@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-assertions-17: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2014-10-16 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 16/10/14 22:39, Brian Campbell wrote: > Hiya in return and inline below... > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Stephen Farrell > wrote: > >> >> Hmm. So the SAML one only seems to have RSA-SHA1 as the MTI and the >> JOSE one has only H256 as required. &g

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-assertions-17: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2014-10-16 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hiya, On 16/10/14 21:06, Brian Campbell wrote: > Thanks for your review and feedback on this one too, Stephen. Replies are > inline below... > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 5:22 AM, Stephen Farrell > wrote: > >> Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's No Objection on draft-ietf-oauth-saml2-bearer-21: (with COMMENT)

2014-10-16 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hiya, Mostly fine just a couple of notes. On 16/10/14 20:28, Brian Campbell wrote: > Thanks for your review and feedback, Stephen. Replies are inline below... > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 5:20 AM, Stephen Farrell > wrote: > >> Stephen Farrell has entered the followin

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's No Objection on draft-ietf-oauth-jwt-bearer-10: (with COMMENT)

2014-10-16 Thread Stephen Farrell
needed. > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 5:22 AM, Stephen Farrell > wrote: > >> Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for >> draft-ietf-oauth-jwt-bearer-10: No Objection >> >> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all &g

[OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's No Objection on draft-ietf-oauth-jwt-bearer-10: (with COMMENT)

2014-10-16 Thread Stephen Farrell
Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-oauth-jwt-bearer-10: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer

[OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-assertions-17: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2014-10-16 Thread Stephen Farrell
Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-oauth-assertions-17: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to

[OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's No Objection on draft-ietf-oauth-saml2-bearer-21: (with COMMENT)

2014-10-16 Thread Stephen Farrell
Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-oauth-saml2-bearer-21: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-token-27: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2014-10-06 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hi Mike, On 06/10/14 08:54, Mike Jones wrote: > Thanks for your review, Stephen. I've added the working group to the > thread so they're aware of your comments. > >> -Original Message----- From: Stephen Farrell >> [mailto:stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie] Sent: Thu

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Alissa Cooper's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-token-27: (with DISCUSS)

2014-10-02 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 02/10/14 17:25, Mike Jones wrote: > OK - I'll start prefixing my text with "Mike> ". Many thanks. S > > -Original Message----- > From: Stephen Farrell [mailto:stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie] > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 8:49 AM > To: Mike Jones;

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Alissa Cooper's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-token-27: (with DISCUSS)

2014-10-02 Thread Stephen Farrell
Mike, I cannot tell which is your text and which not. Can you please use a better quoting style? These docs are going to be a total PITA to handle otherwise. Thanks, S. On 02/10/14 16:14, Mike Jones wrote: > Responding to the DISCUSS below… > > > > -Original Message- > From: Alissa

[OAUTH-WG] Fwd: [kitten] [IANA #731918] SASL mechanism not listed

2014-03-24 Thread Stephen Farrell
See below. I think (not quite sure) that this is better discussed on the kitten list. Ta, S. Original Message Subject: [kitten] [IANA #731918] SASL mechanism not listed Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 19:33:06 + From: Stephen Farrell To: kit...@ietf.org CC: iana-questi

[OAUTH-WG] TLS question from token revocation draft iesg evaluation

2013-06-02 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hiya, This draft has a couple of minor changes needed as a result of IESG review (see [1]) but one question came up that I wanted to bring back to the WG to see what you think. Any good answer should be fine btw, this isn't a case of the insisting on stuff. The question is whether the WG think t

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Use of Version Control Systems for Draft Editing

2013-05-16 Thread Stephen Farrell
the list, and in case of IETF, > it should do so. > > One feedback on the experience we had at OIDF is that XML Editing tools > changes all sort of formatting making the diff at bitbucket useless. So, we > had to resort to emacs/vim/ etc. > > my 2c. > > Nat Sakim

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Use of Version Control Systems for Draft Editing

2013-05-13 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hiya, On 05/13/2013 09:04 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: > Hi all, > the OpenID Connect had gained some experience with using version control > systems > for editing specifications (and the use of issue trackers), see > http://openid.bitbucket.org/. Based on a recent discussion in the IETF (amon

Re: [OAUTH-WG] AD review of draft-ietf-oauth-revocation-06

2013-04-15 Thread Stephen Farrell
13 09:09 PM, Torsten Lodderstedt wrote: > Hi Stephen, > > I just posted a new revision of the draft > (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-revocation-07). I tried to > address all the issues you raised (see below). > > Am 09.04.2013 19:27, schrieb Stephen Farrell: >> Hi

Re: [OAUTH-WG] AD review of draft-ietf-oauth-revocation-06

2013-04-12 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hiya, On 04/12/2013 10:03 PM, Justin Richer wrote: > Hi Stephen, > > I didn't respond as I didn't have anything to add to your comments, but > what little details I have are inline. Thanks:-) > On 04/12/2013 04:53 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote: >> Hi, >&

Re: [OAUTH-WG] AD review of draft-ietf-oauth-revocation-06

2013-04-12 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hi, I'm surprised there've been no responses. I thought there was more interest in this one. Ta, S. On 04/09/2013 06:27 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote: > > Hi, > > I've done my AD review of this draft. I have two quick questions > I'd like to get answered befor

[OAUTH-WG] AD review of draft-ietf-oauth-revocation-06

2013-04-09 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hi, I've done my AD review of this draft. I have two quick questions I'd like to get answered before I start IETF LC. Depending on the answers maybe we should re-spin or just fire ahead, let's see... (1) 2.1: "upon the return of the request" isn't right is it? I think you mean the response at l

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd Writeup for draft-ietf-oauth-revocation-06

2013-04-07 Thread Stephen Farrell
Group Summary: > > The document experienced no particular problems in the working group. > > Document Quality: > > The document has been deployed by four companies, namely by Salesforce, > Google, Deutsche Telekom, and MITRE. > The working group reviewed and discus

Re: [OAUTH-WG] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC6749 (3500)

2013-03-16 Thread Stephen Farrell
This looks right to me (and I'm in a boring meeting processing errata:-) so I'm gonna mark it as verified. Please let me know if that's wrong. S On 02/26/2013 05:07 PM, RFC Errata System wrote: > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC6749, > "The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Framework

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Mandatory to implement

2013-02-19 Thread Stephen Farrell
ohn B. > > On 2013-02-19, at 4:22 AM, SM wrote: > >> Hi John, >> At 12:54 18-02-2013, John Bradley wrote: >>> That is where we get into the area Stephen Farrell has been raising about >>> MTI not being required to deploy. >> >> The topic of man

Re: [OAUTH-WG] oauth assertions plan

2013-02-18 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hi Barry, I agree with you generally, but just on one point... On 02/18/2013 05:38 AM, Barry Leiba wrote: > That's why I say that as I see it, it's not an issue of MTI. I do think there is an issue related to MTI that's affecting the discussion. Clearing up that issue won't by itself solve th

Re: [OAUTH-WG] oauth assertions plan

2013-02-17 Thread Stephen Farrell
In some off-list mail between Mike and I, he said: >> Was TCP a bad idea because it didn't have MTI port numbers? Would >> it have improved TCP to add an MTI port or two? To which I responded: > Ports are MTI for TCP. [1] They are 16 bit values > with a well-defined test for equality and a lit

Re: [OAUTH-WG] oauth assertions plan

2013-02-17 Thread Stephen Farrell
sion. Email discussion on this list is where this should mostly happen I think now that the draft is back with the WG. Cheers, S. > Cheers, > -- Mike > > P.S. RFC 768 is amazingly short! Have a look at it again, if you haven't

[OAUTH-WG] oauth assertions plan

2013-02-17 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hi all, The OAuth assertion document has received DISCUSSes as you can see from the data tracker at [1]. I've been chatting with the chairs and the ADs with those DISCUSSes in the last few days. The main concern is that these documents do not sufficiently specify the functionality that is neede

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion Draft: Text about Interoperability -- Today

2013-01-19 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hi Hannes, On 01/19/2013 04:19 PM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: > > Thanks for the feedback. I see that a couple of you have decided to go with > option 2. Yep, looks like it. I've moved this back to Feb 7 so the discussion doesn't need to be rushed. S. __

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion Draft: Text about Interoperability -- Today

2013-01-18 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hiya, So I'll take the lack of further discussion about this an meaning that the wg want this to shoot ahead. I'll put this in as an RFC editor note for the draft. Cheers, S. On 01/18/2013 12:04 PM, Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo) wrote: > Hi all, > > As you have seen on the list (see > h

Re: [OAUTH-WG] draft-ietf-oauth-assertions-09

2013-01-11 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hi, Since we thought we were done with it, I put this document on the IESG telechat agenda for Jan 24. Hannes' question however looks like its a real one that needs an answer. I'd appreciate it if the WG could figure out if there's any change needed and either make that change in the next week,

Re: [OAUTH-WG] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC6749 (3446)

2013-01-09 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 01/09/2013 11:02 PM, Derek Atkins wrote: > Barry Leiba writes: > >>> Corrected Text >>> -- >>> Resource owners cannot revoke access to an individual third party without >>> revoking access >>> to all third parties, and must do so by changing their password. >>> >>> Notes >>> ---

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Writeup for Assertion Framework for OAuth 2.0

2012-12-10 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hi Hannes, all, Sorry to have been slow with the AD review here. I've only a few comments (below) that can be handled as IETF LC comments. Any changes as a result of the recent thread on the definition of Issuer can also be done then. Unless someone tells me to hold off for a new version, I'll r

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-threatmodel-07.txt

2012-08-16 Thread Stephen Farrell
Thanks, Since this is on the Aug 30 telechat let's not have any further changes without a chair/AD asking. Ta, S On 16 Aug 2012, at 18:19, Torsten Lodderstedt wrote: > Hi all, > > the new revision covers token substitution, which has been added to the core > spec lately. Additionally, it d

Re: [OAUTH-WG] mistake in draft-ietf-oauth-v2-http-mac-01

2012-08-09 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 08/09/2012 07:26 PM, John Bradley wrote: > In Vancouver the question was asked about the future of the MAC spec due to > it no linger having a editor. > > The Chair and AD indicated a desire to have a document on the use-cases we > are trying to address before deciding on progressing MAC or

Re: [OAUTH-WG] AD review of draft-ietf-oauth-threatmodel-05

2012-08-02 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hunt wrote: > Stephen > > One more threat has come up in the core spec that is being looked at. As > Torsten is heading out on vacation I have agreed to augment if needed with > any supplementary text to the threat model. > > Will keep you informed. > > Phil > &g

Re: [OAUTH-WG] oauth-bearer and rfc 2617/httpbis authentication framework

2012-07-23 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hiya, On 07/23/2012 08:56 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: > On 2012-07-23 00:33, Stephen Farrell wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I'd like to check that some recent minor changes to this >> document [1] don't cause technical or process-grief. >> >> T

[OAUTH-WG] oauth-bearer and rfc 2617/httpbis authentication framework

2012-07-22 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hi all, I'd like to check that some recent minor changes to this document [1] don't cause technical or process-grief. The version [2] of the oauth bearer draft that underwent IETF LC and IESG evaluation had a normative dependency on the httpbis wg's authentication framework. [3] After resolving

[OAUTH-WG] draft-ietf-oauth-urbn-sub-ns

2012-07-20 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hi, This draft was approved on yesterday's IESG telechat. Before sending it off to the RFC editor would you take a look at the comments [1] and let me know if there are any changes worth making. If they're tiny but worth doing, (which they probably are) I can put them in as an RFC editor note,

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-22.txt

2012-07-17 Thread Stephen Farrell
Folks. Please don't develop any new revisions for these documents right now. I know you can't officially post 'em anyway, but I don't want us to get tempted to roll new versions handling unrelated comments. (Alexey's comments are not unrelated.) I'd like to handle any tweaks needed as RFC editor

Re: [OAUTH-WG] draft-ietf-oauth-v2-30 and draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-22

2012-07-16 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hi Hannes, That's great thanks. And thanks all for the good work. Since there've been a good few changes and a bit of time has elapsed I'll give the other IESG members who previously commented on these a few days to check if the changes are ok, and then I can shoot 'em along. Cheers, S. PS: A

Re: [OAUTH-WG] AD review of draft-ietf-oauth-threatmodel-05

2012-06-27 Thread Stephen Farrell
orporating > your review comments. > > Please find answers to your comments below. > > Thank you again for your detailed review. You helped us to significantly > improve the document's quality. > > best regards, > Torsten. > > Am 28.05.2012 20:34, schrieb

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-urn-sub-ns-03.txt

2012-06-22 Thread Stephen Farrell
I'll wait until the chairs tell me what you want but I'm fine with doing the IETF LC on -03 now, or with waiting if the chairs reckon that's better. So just let me know. Cheers, S. ___ OAuth mailing list OAuth@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listi

Re: [OAUTH-WG] AD review of draft-ietf-oauth-urn-sub-ns-02

2012-06-21 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 21 Jun 2012, at 19:29, Barry Leiba wrote: >>> (1) Why Informational? Everything else at that level seems to >>> be specified in a standards track or BCP level RFC, and IETF >>> Consensus is required. [1] I think you have to do this as >>> standards track. Did I miss something? >>> >> Standa

Re: [OAUTH-WG] AD review of draft-ietf-oauth-urn-sub-ns-02

2012-06-20 Thread Stephen Farrell
ack. Responses are inline. > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Stephen Farrell > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Many thanks for a nice short document! > > If only they could all be so short right? :) > >> I've a few questions though and suspect

Re: [OAUTH-WG] AD review of draft-ietf-oauth-urn-sub-ns-02

2012-06-20 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 06/20/2012 05:14 PM, Mike Jones wrote: > Per your question (5) Stephen, possibly see the registrations in > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-saml2-bearer-12#section-6. > Authors, maybe using one of these as an example would help? Thanks Mike, that answers the question. I can't s

[OAUTH-WG] AD review of draft-ietf-oauth-urn-sub-ns-02

2012-06-20 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hi, Many thanks for a nice short document! I've a few questions though and suspect that a quick re-spin might be needed, but let's see what the wg think about 'em first. (1) Why Informational? Everything else at that level seems to be specified in a standards track or BCP level RFC, and IETF Co

Re: [OAUTH-WG] FW: Pete Resnick's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-20: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2012-06-18 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hi Mike, As you noted this is under way. When I mailed tlr I asked for two weeks from the 13th, which co-incides with the end of the IETF LC caused by the IPR declaration, so it should be fine. Cheers, S. On 06/18/2012 07:08 PM, Mike Jones wrote: > Hi Stephen, > > Pete is holding his DISCUSS o

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Name spelling nit in acknowledgments

2012-06-15 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 06/15/2012 07:54 PM, Mike Jones wrote: > Bearer acknowledges Bill de hÓra. Core acknowledges Bill de hOra. Which is > correct? Bill may correct me but I believe the former is correct but can't be represented in ASCII so the latter is what you ought use. S

[OAUTH-WG] discusses on oauth-v2 cleared

2012-06-13 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hi all, Just to let you know that all discusses on draft-ietf-oauth-v2 have now cleared. So that means that when the chairs tell me you've finished the last few updates needed, I can shoot this on to the RFC editor (as long as you don't mess about adding crazy stuff:-). Let's get this one out th

[OAUTH-WG] 2nd IETF LC on oauth bearer document

2012-06-13 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hi all, Just so's you know, I've requested the additional IETF LC on the oauth bearer draft. This is because a reviewer after the previous IETF LC and after the IESG telechat noticed some IPR and did the right thing. I think we're close enough to done that folks can make their evaluations of wh

Re: [OAUTH-WG] AD review of draft-ietf-oauth-threatmodel-05

2012-06-03 Thread Stephen Farrell
Torsten. > > Am 28.05.2012 20:34, schrieb Stephen Farrell: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I've gotten the publication request for oauth-threatmodel >> so here's my AD review of -05. >> >> Its quite a read (and a good one) but I've a bunch of >>

[OAUTH-WG] AD review of draft-ietf-oauth-threatmodel-05

2012-05-28 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hi all, I've gotten the publication request for oauth-threatmodel so here's my AD review of -05. Its quite a read (and a good one) but I've a bunch of questions. Some of these will need fixing I suspect but a lot are ok to fix later after IETF LC, depending on whether the authors want to re-spi

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Internal WG Review: Recharter of Web Authorization Protocol (oauth)

2012-05-09 Thread Stephen Farrell
not sufficiently familiar with the current state of play to include "JSON-based" so I've left that out. > Typo: Change "a authorization" to "an authorization". Ta, S. > > -- Mike > > -Original Message- &g

Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer

2012-05-09 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 05/09/2012 09:31 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: >> > > That's not what I read Eran as asking for: > > "So no discussion of this is expected on the list - correct?" Eran is right about the kinds of discussion I mentioned as not being for the WG. This is all business as usual, the rules are in RF

Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer

2012-05-09 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hi Mike, On 05/09/2012 08:34 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: > On 05/09/2012 12:17 PM, Eran Hammer wrote: >> Whoever you talk to for legal advice about IPR issues related to >> standards you might implement. My only point is, this group is not >> qualified to comment on IPR matters. > > The IETF gets

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Internal WG Review: Recharter of Web Authorization Protocol (oauth)

2012-05-09 Thread Stephen Farrell
us: Active > Last updated: 2012-05-03 > > Chairs: > Hannes Tschofenig > Derek Atkins > > Security Area Directors: > Stephen Farrell > Sean Turner > > Security Area Advisor: > Stephen Farrell > > Technical Advisor: > Peter Saint-Andre > &

Re: [OAUTH-WG] [apps-discuss] Web Finger vs. Simple Web Discovery (SWD)

2012-04-20 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 04/20/2012 03:40 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: > > Why not MUST ASN.1 while you're at it? JSON has won in case > you'all haven't noticed it. Well, I also remember when XML won over ASN.1, or was that some RPC thing? Seems like a new format wins about every five years or so, once the last winner

[OAUTH-WG] web sso study...

2012-04-17 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hi all, A recent news article [1] was brought to my attention this week that's about a paper [2] which I've just read. While it mostly deals with implementation and integration flaws, I'm wondering if there's anything in there that could benefit any of the oauth drafts. Anyone had a look at that

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simple Web Discovery (SWD)

2012-04-13 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hi All, So Hannes and Derek and I have been discussing this with the Apps ADs and Apps-area WG chairs. I've also read the docs now, and after all that we've decided that this topic (what to do with swd and webfinger) is best handled in the apps area and not in the oauth WG. The logic for that is

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Web Finger vs. Simple Web Discovery (SWD)

2012-04-12 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 04/12/2012 12:00 PM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: > Hi all, > > those who had attended the last IETF meeting may have noticed the ongoing activity in the 'Applications Area Working Group' regarding Web Finger. > We had our discussion regarding Simple Web Discovery (SWD) as part of the re-chart

[OAUTH-WG] Fwd: Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-25

2012-04-10 Thread Stephen Farrell
FYI in case some aren't on i...@ietf.org Having responses to these before Thursday would be good. Its often the case that some AD will turn some of these points into a DISCUSS so good to know what can be cleared up easily and what might need further discussion before the telechat. S O

Re: [OAUTH-WG] ID Tracker State Update Notice:

2012-03-08 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hi Mike, On 03/08/2012 03:31 PM, Mike Jones wrote: Hi Stephen, I wanted to verify that, despite this state change, that it's still OK for me to make the editorial change suggested by the WG to the Bearer spec to change the b64token example. Sure. Changes the WG want that don't conflict wit

[OAUTH-WG] progressing base and bearer

2012-03-08 Thread Stephen Farrell
First, thanks all, but especially editors and chairs, for your efforts on these. I'll be putting them on an IESG telechat agenda very shortly. That'll be for after the Paris meeting though, but only because we have a monster 700 pages of I-Ds to go through for next week's telechat due to outgoin

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-24.txt

2012-03-08 Thread Stephen Farrell
Thanks Eran, A question... Is this text in 3.1.2.5 correct? If third-party scripts are included, the client MUST NOT ensure that its own scripts (used to extract and remove the credentials from the URI) will execute first. "MUST NOT ensure" is a really odd construct. Maybe s/NOT//

[OAUTH-WG] New co-chair for OAuth

2012-02-13 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hi all, As some of you will have noticed Barry will be taking over as an IETF applications area director in Paris which means that he'll no longer be able to help out as OAuth chair after that. However, we've been quite lucky in that Derek Atkins (cc'd) has agreed to help out along with Hannes

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-15.txt

2012-02-03 Thread Stephen Farrell
vious reference to RFC 2818 was changed to RFC 6125 in draft 14 at the request of Security Area Director Stephen Farrell. I've quickly chatted with Stephen and he said that he only asked the question and didn't necessarily instructed the WG to do the change from RFC 2818 to RFC 6125. Keepi

Re: [OAUTH-WG] REVISED Last Call: (The OAuth 2.0 Authorization Protocol: Bearer Tokens) to Proposed Standard

2012-01-24 Thread Stephen Farrell
Folks, The OAuth bearer and base last calls had to be re-done since I forgot to include some downref information. Other than adding a day to IETF LC, there should be no other difference. Sorry about that. S On 01/24/2012 03:00 PM, The IESG wrote: The IESG has received a request from the Web

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth specs in IETF last call

2012-01-23 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 01/23/2012 05:11 PM, Mike Jones wrote: FYI, the OAuth Core and Bearer specifications have reached IETF last call status - the last step before becoming RFCs. See the following notes from the Internet Engineering Steering Group (IESG). Not quite the last step. There may be directorate re

Re: [OAUTH-WG] AD Review of -22 (part III)

2012-01-21 Thread Stephen Farrell
As before, Thanks S On 21 Jan 2012, at 02:53, Eran Hammer wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf >> Of Stephen Farrell >> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:13 AM >

Re: [OAUTH-WG] AD Review of -22 (part II)

2012-01-20 Thread Stephen Farrell
Same response as for part I from me, S On 01/21/2012 01:04 AM, Eran Hammer wrote: -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Farrell Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:13 AM Suggested non-trivial clarifications

Re: [OAUTH-WG] AD Review of -22 (part I)

2012-01-20 Thread Stephen Farrell
ds resolve themselves) is the way to go. Thanks, S. On 01/20/2012 11:47 PM, Eran Hammer wrote: -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Farrell Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:13 AM List 1 - Fairly sure these ne

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Mandatory-to-implement token type

2011-12-18 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 12/18/2011 07:00 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: Closing out this issue: 7.2 Access Token Implementation Considerations Access token types have to be mutually understood among the authorization server, the resource server, and the client -- the access token issues the token, the resource server va

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base

2011-12-09 Thread Stephen Farrell
aint-Andre Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 12:59 PM To: Stephen Farrell Cc: Barry Leiba; oauth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] TLS version requirements in OAuth 2.0 base On 12/1/11 1:57 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote: On 12/01/2011 08:10 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 12/1/11 1:09 PM, Rob Richards wro

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Mandatory to Implement & Interoperability

2011-12-09 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hannes, I don't see any proposed text here, I see re-chartering suggestions. The latter is not going to happen if the current main documents are wedged. Please focus on the former now. You know that I disagree with you and a number of WG participants about this, so no need for me to repeat myse

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