Re: really facebook?

2012-12-27 Thread joel jaeggli
On 12/27/12 10:29 AM, mike wrote: On 12/27/12 9:25 AM, joel jaeggli wrote: On 12/27/12 9:04 AM, mike wrote: I reloaded their app (yes, I know... sew me) and got this warning: IP address: 2600:100f:b119:c6bc:bd6f:fabb:ff30:2a3d Estimated location: Livingston, NJ, US That's a r

Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats

2013-01-10 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/10/13 12:59 PM, John Levine wrote: IMHO mail is one of the easiest "first things" to turn on for IPv6. You can certainly turn it on, and it will work at the current toy scale, but nobody has a clue how we're going to scale IPv4 spam management up for large scale IPv6. Anything that's obvio

Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list

2013-01-11 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 1/11/13 02:44 , Nikolay Shopik wrote: > Also getting POTS line in your pop sometimes get tricky. 2G/3G modems > with cheap plans cost like 10$/month (dunno about US though), thats > almost same as POTS line. They don't generally have public IPs (that can be arranged). verizon 4G cards have ipv6

Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list

2013-01-13 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/13/13 12:12 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2013, Matthew Petach wrote: Thank goodness ethernet never has problems with negotiation going awry, and coming up with mismatched duplexes, and vendors never had to implement "no negotiation-auto" in their configs because you could

Re: Issues with level3?

2013-01-15 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/15/13 9:31 AM, Bruce H McIntosh wrote: On Tue, 2013-01-15 at 17:23 +, Warren Bailey wrote: I still call a /24 a class c too.. :/ lol More efficient that way - "class c" uses fewer syllables than "slash twenty four" :-) You realize that class-c address space was only found within 192/8

Re: Issues with level3?

2013-01-15 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/15/13 10:04 AM, Randy Carpenter wrote: - Original Message - On 1/15/13 9:31 AM, Bruce H McIntosh wrote: On Tue, 2013-01-15 at 17:23 +, Warren Bailey wrote: I still call a /24 a class c too.. :/ lol More efficient that way - "class c" uses fewer syllables than "slash twenty fo

Re: Problem with email to Hawaiilink.net email

2013-01-15 Thread joel jaeggli
hawaiiantel is reporting a fibercut which I imagine explains most of this. On 1/15/13 4:32 PM, Bacon Zombie wrote: Looks like you are not the only one with issues connecting to Hawaii: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.operators.isotf.outages/5231 On 16 January 2013 00:19, david peahi wrot

Re: IPV6 in enterprise best practices/white papaers

2013-01-27 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/27/13 9:01 AM, Harald Koch wrote: On 26 January 2013 17:38, Mark Andrews wrote: As for "breaking" your LAN, if the applications take 60 seconds to fallback to the other address they were already broken. Go complain to your application vendor. Some vendors have already fixed this problem

Re: IPV6 in enterprise best practices/white papaers

2013-01-30 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/30/13 6:39 AM, Harald Koch wrote: On 30 January 2013 02:39, Jussi Peltola wrote: High density virtual machine setups can have 100 VMs per host. Each VM has at least a link-local address and a routable address. This is 200 groups per port, 9600 per 48 port switch. um - let's compare apples

Re: Muni network ownership and the Fourth

2013-01-30 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/30/13 6:33 AM, Jason Baugher wrote: There is much talk of how many fibers can fit in a duct, can be brought into a colo space, etc... I haven't seen much mention of how much space the termination in the colo would take, such as splice trays, bulkheads, etc... Someone earlier mentioned being

Re: Muni network ownership and the Fourth

2013-01-30 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/30/13 8:05 AM, Jason Baugher wrote: Oh, so all the fault belongs to the financial institutions, and there is no corruption within the government agencies themselves. Right. More like it's turtles all the way down. On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:58 AM, joel jaeggli wrote: On 1/30/13

Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications"....

2013-01-30 Thread joel jaeggli
On 11/28/12 4:17 PM, Dobbins, Roland wrote: On Nov 29, 2012, at 3:04 AM, Tony Hain wrote: Getting the cpe vendors to ship in quantity requires the ISP engineering organizations to say in unison "we are deploying IPv6 and will only recommend products that pass testing". Do you see any evidenc

Re: ONT diagnostics (WAS: Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?)

2013-01-30 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/30/13 5:01 PM, Jake Khuon wrote: On Wed 30 Jan 2013 16:58:28 PST, John Osmon wrote: Does anyone make an ONT with a blinky light that you can toggle on/off remotely? It'd be great to say: Go look at the "it works" light. If the remote tech can control the light, the end user would have

Re: L3 East cost maint / fiber 05FEB2012 maintenance

2013-02-05 Thread joel jaeggli
On 2/5/13 10:02 AM, Jason Biel wrote: Agree as well. Bad assumption on my part that Level3 would doing the items listed in the workaround already. On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Jonathan Lassoff wrote: On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Jason Biel wrote: Workaround is proper filtering and o

Re: Level3 worldwide emergency upgrade?

2013-02-06 Thread joel jaeggli
On 2/6/13 7:43 AM, Ray Wong wrote: On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Andrew Sullivan wrote: On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 07:39:14AM -0500, Jared Mauch wrote: So, I'm wondering what is shocking that someone may have to push out some sort of upgrade either urgently or periodically that is so impacting

Re: Level3 worldwide emergency upgrade?

2013-02-06 Thread joel jaeggli
On 2/6/13 8:34 AM, Justin M. Streiner wrote: On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Ray Wong wrote: My impression is mostly that people are left feeling uncomfortable by a massive upgrade of this sort with so little communication about why and so on. "Emergency work for five hours and 30 minutes disconnection" t

Re: Level3 worldwide emergency upgrade?

2013-02-06 Thread joel jaeggli
On 2/6/13 4:41 PM, Brandt, Ralph wrote: David. I am on an evening shift and am just now reading this thread. I was almost tempted to write an explanation that would have had identical content with yours based simply on Level3 doing something and keeping the information close. Responsible Vendor

Re: The 100 Gbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-08 Thread joel jaeggli
On 2/8/13 5:23 AM, fredrik danerklint wrote: - Well, as it turns out, we don't have that kind of a problem. - You don't? - No, we do not have that kind of a problem in our network. We have plenty of bandwidth available to our customers, thank-you-every-much. - Do you have, just to make an

Re: The 100 Gbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-08 Thread joel jaeggli
On 2/8/13 8:23 AM, fredrik danerklint wrote: The media market has fragmented, so unless we're talking about the first week in February in the US it's not all from one source or 3 or 5. Explain further. I did not get that. The superbowl is the first sunday in feb, it pulls a 75 share of the tv

Re: The 100 Gbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-08 Thread joel jaeggli
On 2/8/13 9:02 AM, Saku Ytti wrote: On (2013-02-08 14:15 +), Aled Morris wrote: "Multicast" I don't see multicast working in Internet scale. Essentially multicast means core is flow-routing. So we'd need some way to decide who gets to send their content as multicast and who are forced to

Re: The 100 Gbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-08 Thread joel jaeggli
On 2/8/13 9:46 AM, fredrik danerklint wrote: About 40 - 50 Mbit/s. Not bad at all. Downloading software does not have to be in real-time, like watching a movie, does. In both cases it's actually rather convenient if it's as fast as possible, Yes. What I would like to have is to allow the acce

Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-10 Thread joel jaeggli
On 2/9/13 7:55 PM, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: Dear NANOG@, In light of the recent discussion titled, "The 100 Gbit/s problem in your network", I'd like to point out that smaller operators and end-sites are currently very busy having and ignoring the 10 Mbit/s problem in their networks. Hotel

Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-17 Thread joel jaeggli
On 2/17/13 8:33 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: - Original Message - From: "Scott Howard" A VPN or SSH session (which is what most hotel guests traveling for work will do) won't cache at all well, so this is a very bad idea. Might improve some things, but not the really important ones. The ch

Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-17 Thread joel jaeggli
On 2/17/13 12:18 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: - Original Message - From: "Owen DeLong" I think by A you actually mean 5Ghz N. A doesn't do much better than G, though you still have the advantage of wider channels and less frequency congestion with other uses. No, my ThinkPad doesn't *do* N,

Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-18 Thread joel jaeggli
On 2/18/13 1:42 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: On Feb 17, 2013, at 21:12 , Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Sun, 17 Feb 2013, Owen DeLong wrote: Greater attenuation is an oversimplification. Along some dimensions sure, e.g. we have quite a lot of parameters we can fiddle with. With respect to an is

Re: can you share ipv6 addressallo cation

2013-02-20 Thread joel jaeggli
how you subnet a network operator is is fairly complex topic even if the principles are rather simple. http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5375.html includes among other things some case studies. there's quite a lot of source material from the various nog(s) where people have presented on their own

Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-25 Thread joel jaeggli
On 2/25/13 8:42 AM, Warren Bailey wrote: I should probably know this, but doesn't N just spread better and have the ability to send receive on multiple polarizations? That would be a rather extreme over-simplifcation of spatial-division-multiplexing and space-time-coding. As an RF engineer I

Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-27 Thread joel jaeggli
On 2/27/13 6:26 AM, Jared Mauch wrote: The reason is Hilton outsources it to AT&T. They don't build the networks for performance in my experience. I have started to avoid some hotels that moved from level3 to AT&T for their Internet providers as they are very slow at peak times. Sad as we all

Re: internet in the box

2013-03-08 Thread joel jaeggli
cradlepoint, verizon lte wireless usb dongle and a commercial plan with the appropiate bandwidth cap. I would then put a somewhat more powerful wireless-ap/router/nat-box behind it. I have stood up a datacenter behind such a thing while waiting for circuits to arrive. the cradlepoint can

Re: internet in the box

2013-03-08 Thread joel jaeggli
that the three cellular devices aren't right on top of each other *From:* joel jaeggli *To:* Philip Lavine ; NANOG list *Sent:* Friday, March 8, 2013 11:40 AM *Subject:* Re: internet in the box cradlepoint, verizon lte wireless usb dongle and a commercial plan with the appropiate bandw

Re: traffic accounting

2013-03-12 Thread joel jaeggli
On 3/12/13 10:18 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Joe Abley wrote: On 2013-03-12, at 09:30, "Dobbins, Roland" wrote: On Mar 12, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Joe Abley wrote: What are better approaches? Flow telemetry. Can you use cflow/jflow/ipfix exports with 1:1 samp

Re: Why are there no GeoDNS solutions anywhere in sight?

2013-03-21 Thread joel jaeggli
On 3/21/13 9:27 AM, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: On 21 March 2013 04:36, Masataka Ohta wrote: Constantine A. Murenin wrote: Are you suggesting that geolocation is inaccurate enough to misplace Europe with Asia? Yes, of course. Think mobile. Why are you insisting that mobile will have wron

Re: Fwd: Class E addresses in the wild

2013-03-21 Thread joel jaeggli
On 3/21/13 11:09 AM, Buz Dale wrote: Is anyone else seeing a lot of Class E address space (240.0.0.0/4) at their borders? I'd put those is in the martian category. Has this space been reinstated in some as yet unknown to me RFC? No it hasn't. Thanks, Buz

Re: Is multihoming hard? [was: DNS amplification]

2013-03-24 Thread joel jaeggli
On 3/23/13 9:13 PM, Matt Palmer wrote: On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 07:47:12PM -0700, Kyle Creyts wrote: You do realize that there are quite a few people (home broadband subscribers?) who just "go do something else" when their internet goes down, right? [...] Will they really demand ubiquitous, un

Re: Sabey opens Intergate.Manhattan DC

2013-03-24 Thread joel jaeggli
On 3/23/13 11:20 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: 1M sq ft datacenter in former VZN CO at 375 Pearl: http://www.wallstreetandtech.com/it-infrastructure/worlds-largest-high-rise-data-center-ope/240151399 From the story: """ Intergate.Manhattan is not only one of the largest facilities [at 32 stories,

Re: Open Resolver Problems

2013-03-26 Thread joel jaeggli
On 3/26/13 10:10 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:39 AM, Doug Barton wrote: On 03/26/2013 09:28 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: On Mar 26, 2013, at 5:59 AM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu said: Now explain how you find a recursive nameserver that isn't li

Re: Open Resolver Problems

2013-03-26 Thread joel jaeggli
On 3/26/13 7:04 PM, Matthew Petach wrote: On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:06 PM, John Levine wrote: As a white-hat attempting to find problems to address through legitimate means, how do you … You make friends with people with busy authoritative servers and see who's querying them. I'm confused.

Re: alexandria cable cutters?

2013-03-28 Thread joel jaeggli
On 3/28/13 1:50 PM, Andrew Latham wrote: On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 2:46 AM, Randy Bush wrote: nyt reports capture of scuba divers attempting to cut telecom egypt undersea fiber. http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013/03/27/world/mi

Re: Open Resolver Problems

2013-04-01 Thread joel jaeggli
On 4/1/13 11:59 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 19:40:03 +0100, Tony Finch said: You should be able to get a reasonable sample of IPv6 resolvers from the query logs of a popular authoritative server. Hopefully, said logs are not easily accessible to the miscreants. Misc

Re: Speedtest Results speedtest.net vs Mikrotik bandwidth test

2013-04-03 Thread joel jaeggli
On 4/3/13 6:25 PM, Warren Bailey wrote: I'm shocked Ookla hasn't been eaten by some major ISP. Speed tests are the root of most complaints. Your link is congested (oversubed) and you then attempt to completely saturate your bandwidth to tell your provider what a suck job they are doing. I can'

Re: Speedtest Results speedtest.net vs Mikrotik bandwidth test

2013-04-03 Thread joel jaeggli
On 4/3/13 3:20 PM, Warren Bailey wrote: Try it with upwards of 900ms of variable latency. on linux tc qdisc add dev eth0 root netem delay 900ms 150msdistribution normal and then you can slowly test the internet to your hearts content. Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original

Re: Verizon DSL moving to CGN

2013-04-08 Thread joel jaeggli
On 4/8/13 7:23 AM, Jack Bates wrote: On 4/8/2013 7:20 AM, Tore Anderson wrote: BTW. It is AIUI quite possible with MAP to provision a "whole" IPv4 address or even a prefix to the subscriber, thus also taking away the need for [srcport-restricted] NAPT44 in the CPE. The problem is NAPT44 in the

Re: Google Wants to Create a Dotless Domain Called "Search"..?

2013-04-12 Thread joel jaeggli
On 4/12/13 3:41 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote: On 4/11/13, Oliver Garraux wrote: Agreed; but it would seem that unstoppable forces have been set into motion by ICANN, to cause it to happen, regardless of whether it is beneficial to the community, and regardless of any objections from the public... Yes

Re: IPv6 and HTTPS

2013-04-25 Thread joel jaeggli
On 4/25/13 6:24 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: Ok, here's a stupid question[1], which I'd know the answer to if I ran bigger networks: Does anyone know how much IPv4 space is allocated *specifically* to cater to the fact that HTTPS requires a dedicated IP per DNS name? It doesn't, or doesn't if if you

Re: IPv6 and HTTPS

2013-04-25 Thread joel jaeggli
On 4/25/13 9:27 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: On Apr 26, 2013, at 00:19 , joel jaeggli wrote: On 4/25/13 6:24 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: Ok, here's a stupid question[1], which I'd know the answer to if I ran bigger networks: Does anyone know how much IPv4 space is allocated *specif

Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM

2013-04-25 Thread joel jaeggli
On 4/25/13 10:16 PM, Matt Palmer wrote: On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 07:49:03PM -0700, Michael Thomas wrote: On 04/25/2013 07:27 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: AWS stands out as a complete laggard in this area. Heh... that's why I put all kinds of question marks and hedges :) That's disappointing about aws

Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM

2013-04-25 Thread joel jaeggli
On 4/24/13 1:55 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Wed, 24 Apr 2013, Geoff Huston wrote: However, personally I find it a little hard to place a high probability on Tony's projected exhaustion date of August this year. I also have to qualify that by noting that while I think that a runout of the

Re: KVM

2013-04-26 Thread joel jaeggli
On 4/26/13 1:49 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: On Apr 23, 2013, at 5:36 PM, shawn wilson wrote: I'm looking at an IP-KVM. I don't need anything high res as I only need to see Linux consoles, BIOS, and RAID. What I am looking for: Non-Java client that runs on Linux (or a WebUI that will deploy a dece

Re: IPv6 and HTTPS

2013-04-29 Thread joel jaeggli
On 4/28/13 3:46 PM, Randy Bush wrote: -- for example: large Cable providers getting together and agreeing to implement a 100ms RTT latency penalty for IPv4 we do not see intentionally damaging our customers as a big sales feature. but we think all our competitors should do so. This business

Re: Tier1 blackholing policy?

2013-04-30 Thread joel jaeggli
On 4/30/13 8:23 AM, Thomas Schmid wrote: On 30.04.2013 17:07, Chris Boyd wrote: On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 10:59 -0400, ML wrote: 1) Do nothing - They're supposed deliver any and all bits (Disregarding a DoS or similiar situation which impedes said network) 2) Prefix filter - Don't be a party (at le

Re: Louisiana Optical Network Initiative

2013-05-02 Thread joel jaeggli
On 5/2/13 3:54 PM, Paul Ferguson wrote: Hang on -- University of New Orleans's AS is 23666? http://bgp.he.net/AS26333 Looks like "SISTELINDO-AS-ID PT Sistelindo Mitralintas": http://www.cidr-report.org/cgi-bin/as-report?as=as23666 ? - ferg On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Paul Ferguson wrot

Re: High throughput bgp links using gentoo + stipped kernel

2013-05-20 Thread joel jaeggli
On 5/20/13 2:45 PM, Matt Palmer wrote: On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 04:42:23PM -0700, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 5/19/13 4:27 PM, Ben wrote: Do you actually need stateful filtering? A lot of people seem to think that it's important, when really they're accomplishing little from it, you can block ports

Re: Writable SNMP

2011-12-09 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 12/9/11 18:22 , Keegan Holley wrote: >> >> >>> assumption that writable SNMP was a bad idea but have never actually >> tried >>> it. I was curious what others were using, netconf or just scripted >> logins. >>> I'm also fighting a losing battle to convince people that netconf isn't >>> evil. I

Re: Sad IPv4 story?

2011-12-10 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 12/10/11 17:48 , Barry Shein wrote: > >>> I just had a personal email from a brand new ISP in the Asia-Pacific >>> area desperately looking for enough IPv4 to be able to run their >>> business the way they would like? > > This sniping elicited by the above seems inappropriate and > unprofessio

Re: Sad IPv4 story?

2011-12-10 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 12/10/11 21:42 , Joel jaeggli wrote: > On 12/10/11 17:48 , Barry Shein wrote: >> >>>> I just had a personal email from a brand new ISP in the Asia-Pacific >>>> area desperately looking for enough IPv4 to be able to run their >>>> business the way th

Re: Overall Netflix bandwidth usage numbers on a network?

2011-12-11 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Netflix uses CDNs for content delivery and the platform runs in EC2. What would peering with them achieve? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 11, 2011, at 18:06, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > Which leads to a question to be asked... > > Is netflix willing to peer directly with ISP / NSP's ? > > Regards. >

Re: Overall Netflix bandwidth usage numbers on a network?

2011-12-11 Thread Joel jaeggli
s to akamai and level3 >> Faisal >> >> On Dec 11, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Joel Jaeggli wrote: >> >>> Netflix uses CDNs for content delivery and the platform runs in EC2. What >>> would peering with them achieve? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >

Re: Sad IPv4 story?

2011-12-12 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 12/12/11 02:05 , Leigh Porter wrote: >> -Original Message- From: Vitkovsky, Adam >> [mailto:avitkov...@emea.att.com] Sent: 12 December 2011 09:19 To: >> Eric Parsonage; valdis.kletni...@vt.edu Cc: nanog@nanog.org >> Subject: RE: Sad IPv4 story? >> >>> and models that doesn't take "we m

Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy.

2011-12-14 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 12/14/11 18:46 , Jimmy Hess wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote: >> Fyi, I just was rejected from arin for an ipv4 allocation. I demonstrated I >> own ~100k ipv4 addresses today. >> My customers use over 10 million bogon / squat space ip addresses today, >> and I have

Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy.

2011-12-15 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 12/15/11 13:43 , Leo Bicknell wrote: > In a message written on Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 01:36:32PM -0800, David Conrad > wrote: >> ARIN's job (well, beyond the world travel, publishing comic books, handing >> out raffle prizes, etc.) is to allocate and register addresses according to >> community

Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy.

2011-12-15 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 12/15/11 14:12 , Jeff Wheeler wrote: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Joel jaeggli wrote: >> We know rather alot about the original posters' business, it has ~34 >> million wireless subscribers in north america. I think it's safe to >> assume that adequate d

Re: local_preference for transit traffic?

2011-12-17 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 12/17/11 00:14 , Mark Tinka wrote: > On Friday, December 16, 2011 05:02:33 AM Joe Malcolm wrote: > >> Once upon a time, UUNET did the opposite by setting >> origin to unknown for peer routes, in an attempt to >> prefer customer routes over peer routes. We moved to >> local preference shortly th

Re: Wireless/Free Space Enterprise ISP in Palo Alto

2011-12-17 Thread Joel jaeggli
I haven't done wireless in downtown palo alto, only metro-e however. Given your proximity to 345 hamilton (under 1000 feet most likely) I would think at&t would be in a position to offer fairly high-rate dsl, On 12/16/11 10:24 , Darren Bolding wrote: > Apologies if this is not the most appropriat

Re: Speed Test Results

2011-12-23 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 12/23/11 11:16 , Joel Maslak wrote: > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 2:18 AM, jacob miller wrote: > >> Am having a debate on the results of speed tests sites. >> >> Am interested in knowing the thoughts of different individuals in regards to >> this. > > It's one data point of many. > > Depending

Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one?

2011-12-24 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 12/24/11 15:33 , Masataka Ohta wrote: > Karl Auer wrote: > >>> Not necessarily. You can use ARP and DHCPv6 and you don't have >>> to waste time and power for DAD. > >> IPv6 does not do ARP, it does ND. > > First of all, ND use is optional and, if ND is used, RA > must be used. > > It means t

Re: Misconceptions, was: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one?

2011-12-30 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 12/30/11 08:47 , Kevin Loch wrote: > It is very common to have different "routers" (routers, firewalls or > load balancers) on the same vlan with different functions in hosting > environments. It is also sometimes necessary to have multiple default > gateways on the same vlan for load balancin

Re: subnet prefix length > 64 breaks IPv6?

2012-01-04 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 12/28/11 07:30 , Ryan Malayter wrote: > Except nowhere in there is the prefix length for the test indicated, > and the exact halving of forwarding rate for IPv6 leads one to believe > that there are two TCAM lookups for IPv6 (hence 64-bit prefix lookups) > versus one for IPv4. A cam (assuming

Re: QinQ switch or similar

2012-01-08 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 1/6/12 12:31 , Bonald wrote: > Hi, > We need to purchase some switch that support 1gbit QinQ. > Any suggestions ? We need to connect 9 schools together in layer2. > All 9 schools have 1gb link from our provider, provider gaves us 5 vlan to > work with. > We have around 35 vlan in-house. > > We

BOF at NANOG 54 - IPV4 runout, doing more with less.

2012-01-10 Thread Joel jaeggli
Greetings, The BOF topic that I proposed during the recent thread: Re: Sad IPv4 story? Got approved, I'm still looking for 1-2 additional speakers to round out the agenda. To recap: * IPV4 run-out means new entrants will from the outset deploy techniques the present operators consider undes

Re: VPC=S/MLT?

2012-01-13 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 1/13/12 11:19 , -Hammer- wrote: > OK, So I'm doing a lot of reading lately on Nexus as we are about to get > into the 7k/5k game and of course a lot of the marketing revolves around > VPC. Every time I see it referenced, I keep remembering a reasonably > reliable Nortel implementation called Spl

Re: accessing multiple devices via a script

2012-01-15 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 1/15/12 09:56 , Phil Regnauld wrote: > Abdullah Al-Malki (a.almalki1402) writes: >> Hi fellows, >> I am supporting a big service provider and sometimes I face this problem. >> Sometimes I want to access my customer network and want to extract some >> verification output "show commands" from a la

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 1/15/12 11:30 , Ken King wrote: > I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. > > up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile phones. > > we can see hundreds of access points in close proximity to our new office > space. > > what are the thoughts these d

Re: DNS Attacks

2012-01-18 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 1/17/12 23:45 , Leigh Porter wrote: > > > On 18 Jan 2012, at 05:06, "toor" wrote: > >> Hi list, >> >> I am wondering if anyone else has seen a large amount of DNS >> queries coming from various IP ranges in China. I have been trying >> to find a pattern in the attacks but so far I have come

Re: World IPv6 Launch Day - June 6, 2012

2012-01-18 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 1/18/12 15:56 , Justin M. Streiner wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jan 2012, Christopher Morrow wrote: > >> My question is when is FiOS going to get v6 natively? could we get the >> engineers there to actually do something as opposed to trials of >> non-production systems that'll never actually get deploye

Re: World IPv6 Launch Day - June 6, 2012

2012-01-18 Thread Joel Jaeggli
By the same token, The mobile broadband network is not some also-ran adjunct to the residential broadband service. On Jan 18, 2012, at 16:45, "Justin M. Streiner" wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jan 2012, Joel jaeggli wrote: > >> On 1/18/12 15:56 , Justin M. Streiner wrote: &

Re: Megaupload.com seized

2012-01-21 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 1/21/12 11:38 , George Bonser wrote: >> Not that I would not be a bit miffed if personal files disappeared, >> but that's one of the risks associated with using a cloud service >> for file storage. It could have been a fire, a virus erasing file, >> bankruptcy, malicious insider damage... Does

Re: LX sfp minimum range

2012-01-26 Thread Joel jaeggli
vendors that specify a minimum distance for lx typically spec 2 meters. even EX shouldn't spike the receiver at that distance as long as the max RX is about +1. On 1/25/12 11:26 , jon Heise wrote: > we are moving a router between 2 data centers and we only have LX sfp's for > connection, is ther

Re: MD5?

2012-01-27 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 1/27/12 12:35 , Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Jon Lewis wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Jan 2012, Christopher Morrow wrote: >> >>> lots of folks still use it yes. is it helpful? maybe? maybe not? is >>> this peering over a shared media (like a 10base-T hub). >>> >>> You migh

Re: 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton)

2012-01-27 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 1/27/12 14:53 , bas wrote: > While I agree _again_! > > It does not explain why TOR boxes have little buffers and chassis box > have many. you need purportionally more buffer when you need to drain 16 x 10 gig into 4 x 10Gig then when you're trying to drain 10Gb/s into 2 x 1Gb/s there

Re: 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton)

2012-01-27 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 1/27/12 15:01 , George Bonser wrote: > > >> -Original Message- From: bas Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 >> 2:54 PM To: George Bonser Subject: Re: 10GE TOR port buffers (was >> Re: 10G switch recommendaton) >> >> While I agree _again_! >> >> It does not explain why TOR boxes have

Re: 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton)

2012-01-27 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 1/27/12 15:40 , bas wrote: > Hi All, > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Joel jaeggli wrote: >> On 1/27/12 14:53 , bas wrote: >>> While I agree _again_! >>> >>> It does not explain why TOR boxes have little buffers and chassis box >>>

Re: XBOX 720: possible digital download mass service.

2012-01-28 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 1/27/12 06:13 , Eric Tykwinski wrote: > The PS Vita still uses a proprietary memory card format, so it's not just > download only. > The best example of download only would be OnLive, which basically is a game > system that only delivers on demand games. Onlive isn't download at all. the games

Re: XBOX 720: possible digital download mass service.

2012-01-28 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 1/27/12 02:35 , Tei wrote: > Can internet in USA support that? Call of Duty 15 releases may 2014 > and 30 million gamers start downloading a 20 GB files. Would the > internet collapse like a house of cards?. Given the way the these things are staged, the pre-order/pre-load model works pretty

Re: Wireless Recommendations

2012-01-31 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 1/30/12 12:46 , Jim Gonzalez wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking for a Wireless bridge or Router that will > support 600 wireless clients concurrently (mostly cell phones). I need it > for a proof of concept. an aruba controller and 8 dual radio aps. > > > > > Thanks in adva

Re: [#135346] Unauthorized BGP Announcements (follow up to Hijacked

2012-02-02 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 2/2/12 21:59 , Randy Bush wrote: >>> The suits won, and many nerds either threw in with them or revealed >>> their affinity for the easy life and gave up. Being principled and >>> turning away dirty money or exercising the "fire the customer" clause >>> tends to be disliked by corporate officers

Re: Optimal IPv6 router

2012-02-05 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 2/5/12 17:20 , Glen Kent wrote: > Hi, > > Most routers today are basically IPv4 routers, with IPv6 thrown in. > They are however designed keeping IPv4 in mind. > > With IPv6 growing, if we were to design a native IPv6 router, with > IPv4 functionality thrown in, then is it possible to design a

Re: Optimal IPv6 router

2012-02-06 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 2/6/12 06:48 , Glen Kent wrote: > One example that comes to my mind is that a few existing routers > cant do line rate routing for IPv6 traffic as long as the netmask is > < 65. I'm sorry that's bs. It's trivial to partition a cam in order to do /128s in a single lookup. that's actually the w

Re: IPv6 explicit BGP group configs

2012-02-08 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 2/8/12 08:59 , keith tokash wrote: > > Hi, I've done it either way, I prefer to put the v6 peers in a different group than the v4 peers so that I can group the policies at the group rather than neighbor level. > I'm prepping an environment for v6 and I'm wondering what, if > any, benefit th

Re: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing

2012-02-11 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 2/11/12 19:34 , Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote: > yes, domain names that cannot be typed in with any keyboard/charset on > any computer out there, excellent idea, devide and conquerer, i wonder > who came up with that idiotic plan again, probably the ITU or one of > their infiltrants in icann. If it'

Re: Wireless Recommendations

2012-02-15 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 2/15/12 20:14 , Mario Eirea wrote: > This is my guess too, i guess there is some bleed over from their antenna > arrays. Even the most directional sector antenna in the world has a back lobe... and there there's the clients... there's no magic bullet you simply can't do it all in one ap with

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-15 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 2/15/12 21:04 , Kenneth M. Chipps Ph.D. wrote: > How widespread would you say the use of IS-IS is? > > Even more as to which routing protocols are used, not just in ISPs, what > percent would you give to the various ones. In other words X percent of > organizations use OSPS, Y percent use EIGRP,

Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-16 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 2/16/12 05:03 , Hank Nussbacher wrote: > Nanosecond Trading Could Make Markets Go Haywire > http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/02/high-speed-trading/ > > "Below the 950-millisecond level, where computerized trading occurs so > quickly that human traders can't even react, no fewer than 18,52

Re: common time-management mistake: rack & stack

2012-02-17 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 2/17/12 06:18 , Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote: > actually most west european countries have laws against having your > employees lift up stuff heavier than 20 kilos :P > > you generally don't have insurance on your network-dude to handle such > things *grin* if it drops on his foot, you're screwed.

Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-17 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 2/17/12 11:47 , Kiriki Delany wrote: > Why not just simultaneously settle all trades at the same time? Once every > minute, or every 5 minutes, or per day? > > There are many solutions to the problem. I'm sure those that can take > advantage of the latency don't want the solution. Ask yourse

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-20 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 2/20/12 08:54 , Matthew Petach wrote: > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 7:34 AM, Jon Lewis wrote: >> Speaking of that sort of thing, I'd really LOVE if there were a device about >> the size of a netbook that could be hooked up to otherwise headless machines >> in colos that would give you keyboard, vid

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-20 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 2/20/12 09:55 , Leo Bicknell wrote: > In a message written on Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 09:51:59AM -0800, Joel jaeggli > wrote: >> Things with legacy ports on them are on the way out. given an ipmi >> manager that doesn't suck there should be no reason to connect to th

Re: DNS Attacks

2012-02-20 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 2/20/12 09:57 , Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Tei wrote: >> I am a mere user, so I all this stuff sounds to me like giberish. >> >> The right solution is to capture the request to these DNS servers, and >> send to a custom server with a static message "warning.h

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-22 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 2/22/12 07:50 , Owen DeLong wrote: > > On Feb 22, 2012, at 2:02 AM, Tim Franklin wrote: > >>> PC LOAD LETTER?!?!?!?!? >> >> PC LOAD LETTER is not the issue. >> >> One country that insists on using different paper sizes to everyone else, >> but also happens to set a lot of hardware and softwar

Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary

2012-03-09 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 3/9/12 20:42 , Owen DeLong wrote: > > On Mar 9, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Leo Vegoda wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Sander wrote: >> >>> Splitting the allocation can be done for many reasons. There are >>> known cases where one LIR operates multiple separate networks, >>> each with a separate routing polic

Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary

2012-03-09 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 3/9/12 22:02 , George Bonser wrote: > An ISP that has been given a /32 or larger allocation from PA space > and might have 10,000 customers each assigned their own /48 could > instantly more than double the size of the IPv6 routing table if they > disaggregated that /32. > > The problem here i

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