On 12/12/11 02:05 , Leigh Porter wrote: >> -----Original Message----- From: Vitkovsky, Adam >> [mailto:avitkov...@emea.att.com] Sent: 12 December 2011 09:19 To: >> Eric Parsonage; valdis.kletni...@vt.edu Cc: nanog@nanog.org >> Subject: RE: Sad IPv4 story? >> >>> and models that doesn't take "we may not get IPv4 space" into >>> account >> and have >>> a contingency plan for that *deserves* to be soundly mocked and >> ridiculed in >>> public. >> >> That's right >> >> However the original post was concerning a fresh new ISP that can't >> run their business the way they would like Maybe they'd like to >> build an mpls core which right now is not possible with only ipv6 >> at hand I'd like to see the business model to build an mpls network >> with all the features we're used to -but solely on ipv6 -I guess >> the plan would be let's wait a couple years till it gets >> implemented and mature enough > > Well really this is pretty much our fault. IPv6 has been on peoples > 'back burner' for far too long. Additional vendor pressure and > pressure at the IETF would have pushed things forward far faster had > people actually been interested in doing so. > > As per an earlier post, I am shocked at how I still have vendors > coming to me with equipment that is nowhere near ready for commercial > IPv6 deployment, it either just does not work, is half baked or is > "on the roadmap". > > So now we will reap the consequences and it will be at the cost of > new market entrants (which I am sure will please some people) and > perhaps cold hard cash for those who cannot expand their business or > have to 'buy' address space.
New market entrants are the customers of existing operators, so their plight and the feasibility of being a new market entrant impacts our bottom lines. > I know a lot of people have been working hard to move IPv6 along both > here, at NANOG and other events and with their vendors. It's because > of those people, like Randy perhaps that we actually have what we do > now else most people would still be stuck with their heads in the > sand. > > Well, I am sure it'll all be OK in the end... > > -- Leigh > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. > For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com > ______________________________________________________________________ > > >