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2020-03-11 Thread Jeroen Wunnink
7; Group Subject: Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that It started about an half hr ago... Erich Kaiser The Fusion Network er...@gotfusion.net<mailto:er...@gotfusion.net> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:08 PM Bryan Holloway mailto:br...@shout.net>> wrote: On 3/9/20 11:02 PM, Keit

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2020-03-10 Thread Ben Cannon
Akamai and it’s customers do not have all content at all locations, nor is their routing always consistent, however you may be able to reach out to them to level this. -Ben Cannon CEO 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC b...@6by7.net > On Mar 10, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Bryan

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2020-03-10 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Mar 10, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Bryan Holloway wrote: > > We hit over 40G on one of our PNIs. > > Currently, however, I'm trying to figure out why we're still seeing a > significant amount of traffic over transit when we have PNIs at the same > locations ... > > I've reached out to Akamai,

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2020-03-10 Thread Bryan Holloway
We hit over 40G on one of our PNIs. Currently, however, I'm trying to figure out why we're still seeing a significant amount of traffic over transit when we have PNIs at the same locations ... I've reached out to Akamai, but I haven't heard anything back yet. I'm sure they're busy ... On

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2020-03-10 Thread Aaron Gould
Wow, yeah, my Akamai servers are again, hitting all time highs… one cache hit up to ~30 gig… been ramping up and down since this morning around 9 or 10 a.m. central time. Here’s a strange thing though, around 14:45 – 15:30, I got massive outbound on my internet connection (~20 gbps), and I

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-03-10 Thread Kaiser, Erich
It started about an half hr ago... Erich Kaiser The Fusion Network er...@gotfusion.net On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:08 PM Bryan Holloway wrote: > > On 3/9/20 11:02 PM, Keith Medcalf wrote: > > > > Warzone is a 83-101GB download for new, free-to-play users*. > > > > And I remember the days when t

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-03-09 Thread Bryan Holloway
On 3/9/20 11:02 PM, Keith Medcalf wrote: Warzone is a 83-101GB download for new, free-to-play users*. And I remember the days when that would have taken 10 and a half years to download and consumed 56,000 floppy diskettes. My, how times have changed! "Never underestimate the bandwidth of

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2020-03-09 Thread Keith Medcalf
Warzone is a 83-101GB download for new, free-to-play users*. And I remember the days when that would have taken 10 and a half years to download and consumed 56,000 floppy diskettes. My, how times have changed! -- The fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to Heaven says a lo

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2020-03-09 Thread Hugo Slabbert
Just as a heads-up that if those previous two patches caused you some strain, keep an eye tomorrow: https://blog.activision.com/call-of-duty/2020-03/Introducing-a-game-changing-FREE-TO-PLAY-experience-Call-of-Duty-Warzone A one-time early access will give Modern Warfare owners the ability to > dow

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2020-02-18 Thread Darrin Veit via NANOG
ct: [EXTERNAL] Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that Once upon a time, Mike Hammett said: > Aren't most modern consoles on whether they're "on" or not? IE: It's not a > full power up from a dead stop, 0 watts power usage. The Xbox One kind of does that - it c

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-17 Thread nanog08
Speaking of dial up... I remember on a trip I got the hotel sometime after 2am (bad weather, bad flight). I was trying to dial out from hotel - 9 to get an outside line, then "pause" and then 1 for long distance and 202 for the area code. I mistyped the phone number or something, and I was no

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2020-02-17 Thread Mike Lyon
Then call waiting came out and would disconnect the session sometimes. That sucked ass. > On Feb 17, 2020, at 16:37, Scott Weeks wrote: > >  > > I can't help myself... :) > > > > My mother in the 1980s: "no one can ever call us because the phone line is > always busy" > > Me with an Osbo

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2020-02-17 Thread Scott Weeks
I can't help myself... :) My mother in the 1980s: "no one can ever call us because the phone line is always busy" Me with an Osborne 1 and a 300 baud modem: "We need a second phone line!" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_1) My mother: "That's too expensive. Quit clogging up the ph

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2020-02-17 Thread Ben Cannon
First non-POTS was an Ascend Pipeline 50. I may even still have it somewhere. -Ben Cannon CEO 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC b...@6by7.net > On Feb 17, 2020, at 12:07 PM, Brian wrote: > >> On Feb 17, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Gene LeDuc wrote: > > Does this thread make m

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2020-02-17 Thread Brian
> On Feb 17, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Gene LeDuc wrote: Does this thread make me not only think about the days of old, but also makes me feel older! Not going back as far as some here but around 1993ish... My first connection back in the day was a shell account I was given as consultant and reseller f

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2020-02-17 Thread Mark Tinka
On 17/Feb/20 22:43, Clayton Zekelman wrote: > > A PRI was and still is 23B+D, not 24 2B+D lines. In Africa (and much of Europe and Asia, I believe), our PRI's were E1's, which was 30B+2D (CCS and CAS protocols), for a total carriage bandwidth of 2.048Mbps. For E1, timeslot 0 is used for clocki

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2020-02-17 Thread Clayton Zekelman
A PRI was and still is 23B+D, not 24 2B+D lines. 23B+D (ISDN PRI or Primary Rate Interface) is 23x64 kbps bearer channels and a 64 kbps Delta channel carried on a B8ZS T1 You could carry additional groups of 24 B channels using NFAS, or Non-Facility Associated Signalling where the D channe

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-17 Thread Paul Ebersman
gleduc> I remember that TI luggable - that sucker weighed a ton! U of I used those in the libraries. I remember looking up books for inter-library/lincoln trail and handing the printout to students. Problem was that clay or whatever it was that made the paper worked didn't last for more than a mon

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2020-02-17 Thread Gene LeDuc
I remember that TI luggable - that sucker weighed a ton! I dragged it from the lab to my dorm a few times to log in remotely, but carrying it on a bicycle was a dicey deal and I got over the novelty pretty quickly. I'd forgotten who made it until you mentioned it - good memories! Gene On 2/

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2020-02-17 Thread Tom Beecher
Wasn’t that CNID where PRIs ignored the flag set not to present the data? On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 15:01 wrote: > > On January 27, 2020 at 22:57 ma...@isc.org (Mark Andrews) wrote: > > The hardware support was 2B+D but you could definitely just use a > single B. 56k vs 64k depended on where yo

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2020-02-17 Thread nanog08
Back in 1973 I was hired by Tymshare to "hack" Tymnet and some of the various systems (XDS 940, PDP-10s) - I was 15.  Tymshare provided me with a Teletype ASR-33 (with the built in tape punch and reader).  I had an AJ 300 baud acoustic coupler.  We had a second phone line installed, 'cause my d

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2020-02-17 Thread Clayton Zekelman
So it was YOUR fault the phone at the Fotomat was always busy when I tried calling to check if my prints were done? At 01:20 PM 17/02/2020, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote: When I got my next computer (and first portable) shortly thereafter (a TRS Model 100) I got acoustic cups for it, and su

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2020-02-17 Thread Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.
> On Feb 17, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Gene LeDuc wrote: > > I was a student worker at a computer lab at USC in the 70s and a buddy had a > system operator job at ISI in Marina Del Rey. One day he connected to his > office from my lab via a 300baud acoustic modem and then got on the ARPA-NET. >

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2020-02-17 Thread Gene LeDuc
I was a student worker at a computer lab at USC in the 70s and a buddy had a system operator job at ISI in Marina Del Rey. One day he connected to his office from my lab via a 300baud acoustic modem and then got on the ARPA-NET. From there he connected to a system called ATLAS in the UK. I h

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2020-02-16 Thread bzs
Ok it's Sunday... The first time I got on the internet was around 1977. A friend dropped by the lab I worked in at Harvard and wondered if I had an MIT ITS account and I said no wasn't even sure what it was other than a time sharing system at MIT. So we had a modem and dumb terminal and dialed

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2020-02-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On 29/Jan/20 02:22, Paul Nash wrote: > One of our early customers was a group of students who wanted to start a > small dial ISP nearby. We gave them service, bootstrapping what became our > biggest competitor, Internet Solutions (now part of DiData, who never did ask > for their router bac

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2020-02-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On 26/Jan/20 06:59, Karl Auer wrote: > > You tell that to young folk these days and they don't believe you... No use. They couldn't describe a cassette if it came with the manual; nor a Nokia 5110 phone for that matter:-). Mark.

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2020-02-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On 26/Jan/20 06:58, Joly MacFie wrote: > IIRC that 64k was in fact 56k with 8k for overhead.  > > I had one, and it would kick in a second channel if you pushed it, for > a whopping 112k. Metered, came out to about $500/mo. My first ISDN experience was in Swaziland, 2003. There weren't many cou

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2020-02-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On 26/Jan/20 06:29, Aaron Gould wrote: > > I love the symmetric ~10 gig speed test to put it into perspective for > how far we’ve come….also the 3 ms ping result.  Ain’t it great > You laugh, but it's true :-). We stopped entertaining this kind of nonesense from customers that don't understand

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2020-02-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On 24/Jan/20 16:55, Aaron Gould wrote: > Thanks Jared, When I reminisce with my boss he reminds me that this telco/ISP > here initially started with a 56kbps internet uplink , lol In Uganda, the Internet first showed up in 1995. Those days, 2 ISP's had 64Kbps each, via satellite, for all thei

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2020-02-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On 24/Jan/20 01:35, Jared Mauch wrote: > Apple did this with the original iPhone. Turned out even in their > ecosystem they didn't get it right. The full restore images have > always been there and diffs didn't reappear until you could "OTA" the > device (WiFi) Still the case today. Diffs are

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On 24/Jan/20 00:32, b...@theworld.com wrote: > > If I may...which also reminds me of a project in Africa which used > some sort of wireless link (probably packet-radio) on top of buses. Where, in Africa? Mark.

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On 23/Jan/20 21:52, Paul Nash wrote: > A bit of perspective on bandwidth and feeling old. The first non-academic > connection from Africa (Usenet and Email, pre-Internet) ran at about 9600 bps > over a Telebit Trailblazer in my living room. Where in Africa? It's a small place you know :-)..

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2020-02-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On 24/Jan/20 12:43, Simon Leinen wrote: > > At 64kbps (ISDN/Antarctica) you could do it in 69 days, maybe even > finishing before the next - undoubtedly bigger - release comes out. In 1996, in Entebbe, it took me a week to download and copy mIRC. Connection was a 14.4Kbps dial-up service duri

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2020-02-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On 14/Feb/20 20:24, Andy Ringsmuth wrote: > U, it is 2020, not 2010. 100M, 200M, 400M or 1G is increasingly common > for home broadband. I’ve got 400M at home, could get 1G fiber for less than > $100 if I wanted it, and I’m in your average, run-of-the-mill Midwest city. Gaming does happe

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2020-02-14 Thread Aaron Gould
Yeah for our 40,000 ftth customers, I think 250M is our base package... we have lots of folks with 500M or 1G -Aaron

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2020-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Andy Ringsmuth" To: "NANOG list" Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 12:24:32 PM Subject: Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that >>> After a

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2020-02-14 Thread Brandon Martin
On 2/14/20 1:24 PM, Andy Ringsmuth wrote: U, it is 2020, not 2010. 100M, 200M, 400M or 1G is increasingly common for home broadband. I’ve got 400M at home, could get 1G fiber for less than $100 if I wanted it, and I’m in your average, run-of-the-mill Midwest city. And there are plenty of

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2020-02-14 Thread Tom Deligiannis
I know people who have 300 mb all the way up to gigabit in their home, they still struggled with the update since the bottleneck wasn't the speed of their internet connection. Tom On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:41 PM Jeff Shultz wrote: > Sure, some of them can get it. Some still have DSL because we

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2020-02-14 Thread Jeff Shultz
Sure, some of them can get it. Some still have DSL because we haven't gotten fiber that far out yet. Or they're in a rental/apartment where the landlord won't let us put fiber. Or some just don't want to pay for it. On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 10:26 AM Andy Ringsmuth wrote: > > >>> After all - it's

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2020-02-14 Thread Andy Ringsmuth
>>> After all - it's not like *they* are going to feel the pain of a single >>> 106G upload, it's somebody else who feels the pain of 5 million downloads >>> of a 106G image >>> refresh. >>> >>> Economists call this sort of thing an "externality". >> >> I must admit, I'm blissfully unaware of C

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2020-02-14 Thread Jeff Shultz
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 1:47 AM t...@pelican.org wrote: > > On Friday, 14 February, 2020 09:17, "Valdis Klētnieks" > said: > > > After all - it's not like *they* are going to feel the pain of a single 106G > > upload, > > it's somebody else who feels the pain of 5 million downloads of a 106G ima

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2020-02-14 Thread jdambrosia
s networks more. Regards John -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of t...@pelican.org Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 4:46 AM To: NANOG list Subject: Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that On Friday, 14 February, 2020 09:17, "Valdis Klētnieks" said: > Af

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2020-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
:31:49 AM Subject: Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that The discussion about what the consoles can or can not do is honestly not solving anything. Saying that the consoles should or should not be doing a thing is simply trying to throw the problem to someone else. On Wed,

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2020-02-14 Thread t...@pelican.org
On Friday, 14 February, 2020 09:17, "Valdis Klētnieks" said: > After all - it's not like *they* are going to feel the pain of a single 106G > upload, > it's somebody else who feels the pain of 5 million downloads of a 106G image > refresh. > > Economists call this sort of thing an "externality"

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2020-02-14 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 09:39:09 -0800, Ahmed Borno said: > The thread started with bandwidth surges and now power hogging is > mentioned, I wonder what else might happen as a side effect to a small > number of console/gaming companies not taking a direct responsibility in > how they release large upd

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2020-02-13 Thread Brandon Martin
On 2/13/20 12:39 PM, Ahmed Borno wrote: Strictly out of interest, I wanted to ask earlier if this irresponsible way of causing insane, instant, bandwidth demands is breaking anything on the ISP/CDN side or even the console owner ?! Or is it just an interesting phenomenon that is handled without

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-13 Thread Ahmed Borno
Strictly out of interest, I wanted to ask earlier if this irresponsible way of causing insane, instant, bandwidth demands is breaking anything on the ISP/CDN side or even the console owner ?! Or is it just an interesting phenomenon that is handled without a sweat. Does it break the buck in anyway?

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2020-02-13 Thread Aaron Gould
I saw this ... 100 gbps inet - usually 25 gig peak - that day it was 35 gig peak 100 gbps inet - usually 25 gig peak - that day it was 35 gig peak 20 gbps (lag) inet - usually 12 gig peak - that day it was 16 gig peak 10 gig fed - aanp cluster site 1 - usually 3 gig peak - that day it sat at 10

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2020-02-13 Thread Tom Beecher
The discussion about what the consoles can or can not do is honestly not solving anything. Saying that the consoles should or should not be doing a thing is simply trying to throw the problem to someone else. On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 15:40 Carsten Bormann wrote: > On 2020-02-12, at 20:45, Mike H

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2020-02-12 Thread Carsten Bormann
On 2020-02-12, at 20:45, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Aren't most modern consoles on whether they're "on" or not? IE: It's not a > full power up from a dead stop, 0 watts power usage. https://www.anandtech.com/show/7528/the-xbox-one-mini-review-hardware-analysis/5 says two-digit standby power (which

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2020-02-12 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/12/20 11:48, Josh Luthman wrote: In low power state, usually standby, they're connected to the network and listen for requests to download a new title (bought online) or updates.  I know on the Xbox One side of things this feature is semi-off by default as it turns the HDD off to save powe

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2020-02-12 Thread Tom Deligiannis
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2020-02-12 Thread Mike Hammett
: "Mike Hammett" , "NANOG list" Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 2:02:42 PM Subject: Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that Because the disks are shut off by default in standby mode. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St

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2020-02-12 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Mike Hammett said: > Aren't most modern consoles on whether they're "on" or not? IE: It's not a > full power up from a dead stop, 0 watts power usage. The Xbox One kind of does that - it can receive updates (both game and OS) in that state, but it depends on other settings. I

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2020-02-12 Thread Josh Luthman
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> -- >> *From: *"Seth Mattinen" >> *To: *nan

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2020-02-12 Thread Tom Deligiannis
sp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *"Seth Mattinen" > *To: *nanog@nanog.org > *Sent: *Wednesday, February 12, 2020 1:42:21 PM > *S

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2020-02-12 Thread Josh Luthman
swisp> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------ > *From: *"Seth Mattinen" > *To: *nanog@nanog.org > *Sent: *Wednesday, February 12, 2020 1:42:21 PM > *Subject: *Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was th

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2020-02-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Seth Mattinen" To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 1:42:21 PM Subject: Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that On 2/12/20 11:31,

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2020-02-12 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/12/20 11:31, Livingood, Jason wrote: But I think folks are correct that the issue may be more that a given gaming device was turned off at night (though no reason that device could not pre-cache the content from the source). In any case, there should be a better way to address this. The I

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2020-02-12 Thread Livingood, Jason
(as an aside) Some of this timed & controlled distribution (by the content originator) should be possible using IETF Content Delivery Network Interconnection (CDNI) standards - see https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/cdni/documents/. The initial RFC 6707 provides some background - https://www.rfc-e

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2020-02-12 Thread Scott Weeks
-- On 2/11/20 6:41 PM, Tom Deligiannis wrote: > There is a major update that has released today, how's everything > looking for everyone? --- Did anyone else notice a big traffic dip from noon to 8pm local time? Strang

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2020-02-12 Thread Scott Weeks
-- On 2/11/20 6:41 PM, Tom Deligiannis wrote: > There is a major update that has released today, how's everything > looking for everyone? --- eyeball network here... It shifted our traffic patterns to earlier peaks. It

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2020-02-12 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/12/20 10:02, Jared Mauch wrote: When you see this please raise it to my attention. I can't promise a resolution but will promise clarity in what is going on. This was in May 2019 so what's done is done at this point, but I will forward you the email offlist.

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2020-02-12 Thread Jared Mauch
When you see this please raise it to my attention. I can't promise a resolution but will promise clarity in what is going on. I know some cities are problematic as we are moving cages or datacenter space and have the usual related problems. There is always something. Sent from my iCar > On

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2020-02-12 Thread Seth Mattinen
The wheels of bureaucracy are certainly a problem. The largest peer on our local exchange couldn't even get Akamai to complete a peering turn up because whoever was working on the ticket on the Akamai side got stuck on trying to set up the wrong location. And then months pass, it never got r

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2020-02-12 Thread Denys Fedoryshchenko
It would be really nice if the major CDNs had virtual machines small network operators with very expensive regional transport costs could spin up. Hit rate would be very low, of course, but the ability to grab some of these mass-market huge updates and serve them on the other end of the regional

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2020-02-12 Thread Brandon Martin
On 2/12/20 11:56 AM, Chris Adams wrote: I think security is probably the sticking point for this. Content owners don't want anybody having direct access to their files, and as more content is distributed over HTTPS, content distributors don't wany anbody having access to their certificates. Ye

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2020-02-12 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Brandon Martin said: > I guess what I'm looking for is a more "standard product". Load > this VM, tell it your preference for upstream use vs. hit rate, let > it announce some routes into your network, and you take what you > get. If you need more, presumably you have the volum

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2020-02-12 Thread Brandon Martin
On 2/12/20 11:22 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: My experience is that they want to see lots of traffic growth to stay interested. As companies get bigger the minimum bar to play keeps going up, and anyone below that bar is stuck relying on transit. Fall below the bar or don't show enough growth fast

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2020-02-12 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/12/20 8:36 AM, Aaron Gould wrote: Netflix oca has it figured out, as my fill windows is during off-peak time, 2 a.m. - 6 am. and I think it's also configurable in the oca portal. It's not fill, it's that people don't turn on their xbox or whatever until after they get home from work and

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2020-02-12 Thread Aaron Gould
Netflix oca has it figured out, as my fill windows is during off-peak time, 2 a.m. - 6 am. and I think it's also configurable in the oca portal. -Aaron

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2020-02-12 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/12/20 8:13 AM, Brandon Martin wrote: It would be really nice if the major CDNs had virtual machines small network operators with very expensive regional transport costs could spin up.  Hit rate would be very low, of course, but the ability to grab some of these mass-market huge updates and

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2020-02-12 Thread Brandon Martin
On 2/12/20 10:59 AM, Dave Bell wrote: Night-time for you is daytime for someone else. This is very true, though I am curious what the international demographics are like for COD in particular and many games in general. I suspect a lot of them are at least somewhat regional. I agree that the

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2020-02-12 Thread Dave Bell
On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 at 14:46, Brandon Martin wrote: > It would be nice if things could drop overnight to hopefully > spread things out during the daytime lull some. > Night-time for you is daytime for someone else. I agree that the folks pushing these massive data loads could be considerate of

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2020-02-12 Thread Jared Mauch
Our CEO tweeted out a new platform peak yesterday which when you round it from the many trailing 9’s is 140T. https://twitter.com/TomLeightonAKAM/status/1227389107665592320 I want to ensure the bits get through with the least pain as possible. I’m expecting more of the same in the future, so if

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-12 Thread Jason Canady
We saw a higher load overnight, a little bit of a spike last night, but really hard to tell overall with our traffic.  Updates were still going at 8am today.  We run a local/regional WISP. On 2/12/20 9:46 AM, Brandon Martin wrote: On 2/11/20 6:41 PM, Tom Deligiannis wrote: There is a major upd

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-12 Thread Brandon Martin
On 2/11/20 6:41 PM, Tom Deligiannis wrote: There is a major update that has released today, how's everything looking for everyone? I run a couple distinct very small networks. Both are transit-only with no direct peering or local caching and generally sub-gbps. One set a new 1-min 95% recor

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-12 Thread Aaron Gould
) Subject: Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that Is 10G enough? ;) We just lit up several 100G Akamai links. Saved the day fo sho ... (this time.) On 2/11/20 8:26 PM, Aaron Gould wrote: > Huge!  Big as ever.  My aanp links are (were) pegged, seriously.  I will > be contacting

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-12 Thread Bryan Holloway
clusters.  Started at 12 noon central… still going pretty heavily.  Game/update release ? -Aaron *From:*Tom Deligiannis [mailto:tom.deligian...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 11, 2020 5:41 PM *To:* aar...@gvtc.com *Cc:* Nanog@nanog.org *Subject:* Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-11 Thread Tom Deligiannis
t 12 noon central… still going pretty heavily. > Game/update release ? > > > > -Aaron > > > > > > *From:* Tom Deligiannis [mailto:tom.deligian...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 11, 2020 5:41 PM > *To:* aar...@gvtc.com > *Cc:* Nanog@nanog.org > *Subje

RE: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-11 Thread Aaron Gould
[mailto:tom.deligian...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 5:41 PM To: aar...@gvtc.com Cc: Nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that There is a major update that has released today, how's everything looking for everyone? Tom

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-11 Thread Job Snijders
> Any word on what the update was for? It caused quite a jump in traffic on our > network. On twitter "68 GB" was trending https://twitter.com/search?q=%2268%20GB%22&src=trend_click Kind regards, Job

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-11 Thread craig washington
Dido On Feb 11, 2020, at 9:03 PM, Andy Smith mailto:telephonetoughgu...@gmail.com>> wrote: Any word on what the update was for? It caused quite a jump in traffic on our network. On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 19:06 Jared Mauch mailto:ja...@puck.nether.net>> wrote: Looking good from my perspective. Le

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-11 Thread Andy Smith
Any word on what the update was for? It caused quite a jump in traffic on our network. On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 19:06 Jared Mauch wrote: > Looking good from my perspective. Let me know if we are causing you pain > and let's see what can be done to improve. > > I'm here in SF if you are at nanog. >

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-11 Thread Jared Mauch
Looking good from my perspective. Let me know if we are causing you pain and let's see what can be done to improve. I'm here in SF if you are at nanog. Sent from my iCar > On Feb 11, 2020, at 3:42 PM, Tom Deligiannis > wrote: > > There is a major update that has released today, how's every

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-02-11 Thread Tom Deligiannis
There is a major update that has released today, how's everything looking for everyone? Tom On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 10:14 AM Aaron Gould wrote: > My gosh, what in the word was that coming out of my local Akamai aanp > servers yesterday !? starting at about 12:00 noon central time lasting > se

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-01-28 Thread Ray Wong
My first internet connection was some generic 2400baud.I had software support for MNP 5, which probably claims speeds up to 9600 bps? {perfomance in the lab with pretty cooperative factors like noise when squirrels eat through the protective coatings, and then chew up the actual wire, and at least

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-01-28 Thread Ben Cannon
G Operators' Group > Subject: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai > yesterday - what in the world was that > > I started what became 6x7 with a 64k ISDN line. And 9600 baud modems… > > in ’93 or so. (I was a child, in Jr High…) > > -Be

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-01-28 Thread Paul Nash
Carrying on with the “first Internet connection” thread: I forget how I found out about Usenet and UUCP email (lost in the mosts of time). I ran a store and forward dial-up link from South Africa to DDSW1 in Chicago (Hi Karl! Thanks!). I cobbled together a package with a DOS-based mail reade

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-01-28 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
So to add my two stories: I provided the Idea and a whole bunch of time/labor/etc to start a dialup ISP in our hometown back in 1994. I remember having a big debate on whether to bring in a single 56K leased line or 128K fractional T1. We went with the Fractional T1 just because it could be eas

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-01-28 Thread Andy Ringsmuth
> On Jan 28, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Paul Ebersman wrote: > > wsimpson> When we first designed PPP in the late '80s to replace SLIP > wsimpson> and SLFP, it was expected to run at 300 bps and scale up, so > wsimpson> the timeouts reflected that. When I designed PPP over ISDN, > wsimpson> added lang

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-01-28 Thread t...@pelican.org
On Tuesday, 28 January, 2020 16:53, "Paul Ebersman" said: > SLIP and PPP were quite... robust. Some UCB folks managed to get SLIP > over tin can and string. Two acoustic coupler 150b modems, 2 8oz V8 cans > and waxed cotton thread. https://www.revk.uk/2017/12/its-official-adsl-works-over-wet-st

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-01-28 Thread Large Hadron Collider
Imagine the racket! Is anyone connected with PPP over OC3? I'm just curious. I don't have that sort of connection myself. I'm just on dumbass DOCSIS. My first connection was PPP over the analogue PSTN. On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 09:53:26 -0700 Paul Ebersman wrote: > wsimpson> When we first designed PP

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-01-28 Thread Paul Ebersman
wsimpson> When we first designed PPP in the late '80s to replace SLIP wsimpson> and SLFP, it was expected to run at 300 bps and scale up, so wsimpson> the timeouts reflected that. When I designed PPP over ISDN, wsimpson> added language to allow faster retransmission. SLIP and PPP were quite... ro

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-01-28 Thread Derek Traynor
I had a USR 2400 baud external modem. Local ISP offered PPP service as well. We also had a few BBS's in the area of which I ran two of them. On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 10:31 AM Daniel Seagraves < dseag...@humancapitaldev.com> wrote: > > On Jan 24, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Ben Cannon wrote: > > > > I start

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-01-28 Thread Tom Deligiannis
> > Shouldn't game patches like this be released overnight during off-peak > hours? Fortnite releases their updates around 3 or 4am when most ISP's > networks are at their lowest utilization. It seems somewhat reckless to > release such a large patch during awake hours. > I can't speak for PS4 and

Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that (now old guy stuff)

2020-01-28 Thread Ben Cannon
The Civil Engineering version of this is SWER electrical distribution. Single-Wire, Earth-Return. And it’s as crazy in implementation as it sounds now. -Ben Cannon CEO 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC b...@6by7.net > On Jan 25, 2020, at 8:24 AM, Allen McKinley Kitch

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-01-28 Thread William Allen Simpson
On 1/27/20 3:06 PM, b...@theworld.com wrote: I remember going from 300b to 1200b and thinking wow, this is it, we're done, I cannot read text scrolling on the screen at 1200b. Other than the 75 and 110 baud teletypes that only did text, my first TCP/IP connection was 300b, back when we had to

Re: Reminiscing our first internet connections (WAS) Re: akamai yesterday - what in the world was that

2020-01-27 Thread Bryan Holloway
Whoa. Gandalf. I worked on one of those once and it was cray-zee. Customer bought one, and I had to get it to interoperate with an Ascend 400. It took a lot of fiddle-farting, but I did eventually get it to work. Fun times. On 1/27/20 8:00 PM, Jamie Bowden via NANOG wrote: That was the

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