Re: Send-hook overriding reply-hook even though reply-hook is specified last

2012-04-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 05:06:45PM +0200, Jostein Gogstad wrote: > Jostein Gogstad wrote, on Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 04:46:22PM +0100: > > send-hook . 'my_hdr From: Incorrect from ' > > reply-hook . 'my_hdr From: Correct from ' > > > > The send hook always kicks in whenever I reply to a mail. If I dr

Re: Send-hook overriding reply-hook even though reply-hook is specified last

2012-04-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 01:58:31AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 05:06:45PM +0200, Jostein Gogstad wrote: > > Jostein Gogstad wrote, on Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 04:46:22PM +0100: > > > send-hook . 'my_hdr From: Incorrect from ' > > > re

Re: why does control-4 generate SIGQUIT in X?

2012-05-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 05:32:10PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 21 May 2012 18:28:55 -0400, Eric Cooper wrote: > > > I recently noticed that when I hold the control key and press '4', it > > generates ^\, i.e. SIGQUIT. This happens in both gnome-terminal and > > xterm, and on two different ki

Re: why does control-4 generate SIGQUIT in X?

2012-05-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:57:34PM +0100, Chris Davies wrote: > Chris Bannister wrote: > > Yes, stty quit "" works!! > > That disables SIGQUIT capability from the keyboard entirely, so the more > usual ^\ also no longer works. Where are you setting it? Short vers

Re: mutt deletes attachement before libreoffice tries to open it

2012-06-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 09:38:10AM -0500, Luis Mochan wrote: > # DESCRIPTION > # Runs a browser on a copy of a file, and sleeps for a while > # before deleting it. It solves the problem that mutt may delete > # the file too fast. IMHO, change "fast" to "soon". The *speed* of delet

Re: The wiki lies about macros and tags.

2012-07-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 01:04:23PM -0500, David Champion wrote: > * On 19 Jul 2012, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > "If you define a macro to work with a single entry, then it can not > > be applied to tagged entries just by using macro-key!!!" > > is flat-out false in every version of mutt I have acc

Re: wiki macro page expansion (was Re: The wiki lies about macros and tags.)

2012-07-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 08:44:32PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > If no-one comments further, I'm going to see if I have perms to > change the wiki page with this tutorial. SCNR. A good demonstration with the problems of top posting, and no trimming -- "If you'

Re: mailing list subject line tags

2012-10-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 07:45:27PM -0700, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > Interestingly if I manually strip the whitespace and canonicalize line > endings, the signature passes. So somehow you are correctly generating > the signature (with trailing whitespace removed), but are sending the > email out w

Re: What are the current fetchmail/getmail and/or procmail/maildrop utilities?

2012-11-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 03:17:35AM +0200, Nikola Petrov wrote: > No it doesn't deliver them to you. It sort of filters them online on the > server. You can then use something like offlineimap to deliver them > locally to you. I use imapfilter + offlineimap + notmuch + mutt and I am > far from happy

Re: What are the current fetchmail/getmail and/or procmail/maildrop utilities?

2012-11-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 02:49:48PM +0200, Nikola Petrov wrote: > On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 11:17:06PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 03:17:35AM +0200, Nikola Petrov wrote: > > > No it doesn't deliver them to you. It sort of filters them online on th

Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 02:46:23PM +, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > Ah, i understand your problem now. I did misunderstand but that's not your > fault, your English is very good actually. > > As far as I know, it's not possible. I believe you must be subscribed to the > list. You can have

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:01:41AM +, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > I don't like vim. I prefer the old vi, so i'd have to set it in ~/.exrc which > mean all files will be line wrapped which is why I haven't done so already. > I'll see if theres a muttrc macro or setting I can use to set line wr

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:59:55AM -0600, David Young wrote: > >On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 04:42:13PM +, John Long wrote: […] > > Mail and news need to have sane line lengths. 72 or 76 chars are common. It > > makes people look like AOL groupies when they post 500 character lines. Many > > of us

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 03:34:13PM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: > > On 11/20/12 3:18 PM, Rado Q wrote: > >Software can't do magic, or make up for human failures. Sometimes > >the responsibility is with the user, not the code. > > Nope. Totally wrong. The responsibility is entire with the design

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:19:25PM +, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: […] > My confusion is simply due to the fact that when my emails come > through from mutt's mailing list manager to my server and I read them > with mutt, I don't experience the readability issues others seem to. > It's not somethi

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:39:02PM +, Tony's unattended mail wrote: > compose with no linefeeds, except when a linebreak is really needed (a > peom, for example). The the rendering software can wrap where it > makes the most sense to, and honor the existing linefeeds that are > important. The

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 07:54:28PM +, Tony's unattended mail wrote: > Proper etiquette is established by those in a region, or in a > group.. it's based on where you are. If you enter a village where > everyone does something, that *is* the etiquette, by definition. To > go against it is to l

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:52:58PM -0600, David Champion wrote: > * On 19 Nov 2012, Chris Bannister wrote: > > Ouch! Could you please set the "line wrap" value in your editor to a > > sane value? 72 characters seems to be the recommended setting. > > > > (

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 02:37:57PM -0600, David Champion wrote: > * On 21 Nov 2012, Chris Bannister wrote: > > Because there are no CR/LF in a paragraph then it is treated all as one > > line. If the first "line" of a paragraph appears at the bottom of the > >

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 01:21:18PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:09:17AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > > Because there are no CR/LF in a paragraph then it is treated all as one > > line. > > Interesting, considering that Unix d

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 07:22:03PM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: > Apparently you're unaware of the last 30 or 40 years of human > factors and usability research, or the fact that other people are > using computers besides a bunch of ivory tower geeks who think users > will follow whatever strictures a

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 08:46:59PM +, Tony's unattended mail wrote: > On 2012-11-24, Derek Martin wrote: > > > > Yeah, I said exactly that in another message. Now generate HTML > > mail with Mutt. Plus you still get a lot of folks -- many of whom > > use GUI clents -- who complain about HTML

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 07:14:45PM +, Tony's unattended mail wrote: > On 2012-11-25, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > With regards to mailing list posts, which is what the original post > > of mine was addressing, sending HTML posts is very wasteful. They > > a

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-12-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 07:08:11PM +, Tony's unattended mail wrote: > Now, if we consider lousy tools (tools that either fail to facilitate > standards or needlessly impose extra work on humans), then it can only > be the contrary of what you're saying. "Selfish" authors do what is > convenien

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-12-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:24:59AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: > > Actually, it wasn't about GMail at all. It was about the fact that > millions of email users don't care about line wrapping, or text/plain, > or any of these other 40 year old conventions. The mutt-users group > just happens to repre

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-12-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 06:20:00PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: > The main Python mailing list gets regular posts from Google Groups. > Those posts are always malformatted (the formatting seems to change > over the years, but it never actually gets better). The ones that > aren't just spam are alwa

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-12-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 05:57:03PM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: > Apparently even proper conversational quoting is too complex for you > to follow. I was responding to a comment on a comment on an earlier > post of mine. Since I wrote that earlier post, I think I have a pretty > good idea what it was

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-12-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 02:33:56PM +0200, Nikola Petrov wrote: > > The fact that I don't know how the engine of my car works doesn't make > me a newbie. That's what abstractions in our world are for. Umm, in the "car world" yes you'd be a newbie. Don't consider it a derogatory term. We are all ne

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-12-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 07:30:14AM -0600, Dale A. Raby wrote: > > Not all of us are IT professionals. Some of us are blacksmiths, gun > salesmen, truck drivers, and even ecdysiasts. Please don't group "IT professionals." and standards/ettiquette/netiquette as one. > "No exceptions"? Really?

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-12-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:55:32AM +0200, Nikola Petrov wrote: > On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 01:53:59PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 02:33:56PM +0200, Nikola Petrov wrote: > > > > > > The fact that I don't know how the engine of my car work

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-12-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 01:53:59PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 02:33:56PM +0200, Nikola Petrov wrote: > > > > The fact that I don't know how the engine of my car works doesn't make > > me a newbie. That's what abstractions in our

Re: HTML markup in email [was: Please set your line wrap to a sane value]

2012-12-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 07:43:12PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote: > Same arguemnt as above. Also this is mostly not interesting > anymore. When you compare this to the amount of bandwidth consumed > by things like streaming video, it's a drop in the bucket. Streaming video is specifically requested.

Re: HTML markup in email [was: Please set your line wrap to a sane value]

2012-12-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 12:15:49PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote: > On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 11:44:17PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 07:43:12PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote: > > > Same arguemnt as above. Also this is mostly not interesting > > >

Re: Jump to next mailbox with unread mail

2012-12-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 02:01:47AM +0100, Marco wrote: > On 2012–12–20 Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > You access the mail box and leave, then expect mutt to still show > > new mail. > > Yes, I do. If there is a new unread message in the mail box and I > enter and leave it is still contains an unre

Re: Jump to next mailbox with unread mail

2012-12-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 03:45:06PM +, Chris Green wrote: > Yes (not the OP here though), however it has always seemed odd to me > that I can't get mutt to take me to all/any mailboxes which have > *unread* mail in them. I.e. I want 'c' to take me to the next mailbox > with unread mail in it, *

Re: Jump to next mailbox with unread mail

2012-12-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 07:03:23AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > Weird, the documentation has (under pattern matching) > > ~N New messages > ~O Old messages > ~U Unread messages > > Just wondering, what is an Unread message if its not New or Old, unless >

Re: Jump to next mailbox with unread mail

2012-12-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 01:47:24PM +, Chris Green wrote: > > I have added:- > bindindex n next-unread-mailbox > > ... and now I can find new mail in all my (mbox) mailboxes without any > stupid requirements for setting access times or whatever to the files. > I always thought it sho

Re: Question about PGP and mutt

2013-01-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 11:09:48AM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 07:33:16AM -0600, Dale A. Raby wrote: > > > set pgp_replyencrypt=yes > > set pgp_timeout=1800 > > set pgp_good_sign="^gpg: Good signature from" > > I have none of this in my .muttrc and have pgp capability.

Re: changing the query command

2013-01-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 08:18:47AM -0600, Dale A. Raby wrote: > Hello: > > I've started using Abook recently and run into a minor irritation; when > hitting the "Q" key sequence, all is well and I am prompted for > my query, but if I forget to hit the key, Mutt correctly > interprets the command

Re: How to import the early mails into mutt ?

2013-01-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:06:04PM -0700, s. keeling wrote: > Incoming from horseriver: > > > > I subscribed a mail list at date X , Now I want to import these mails which > > are > > post before X , How can I do ? > > Just brainstorming here. > >i) please give a better description of you

Re: How to import the early mails into mutt ?

2013-01-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 11:02:24AM -0700, s. keeling wrote: > > [Apologies if this reaks with hostility; it isn't meant. I've seen your posts before. > Understanding error reports and missives from users is an art. Exactly! So asking a "mere user" whether the messages are stored in mbox or m

Re: mailing lists and different directories

2013-01-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 03:54:05AM +0200, lambda calculus wrote: > Hi guys, i recently changed to mutt, and reading the documentation, > but i can't find what i want: What program were you using before? > Since I'm subscribed to a couple of mailing lists i would like to > configure mutt to store

Re: .procmailrc configurations

2013-01-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:29:47PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > for mdir > > = > MAILDIR="$HOME/mail" ## your mail dir below /home/ > >:0: >* ^TO_mutt/-users/@mutt/.org >$MAILDIR/mutt-users > =

Re: use of .forward file

2013-01-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:37:06PM +0800, horseriver wrote: >I have already read this man page ,and I am reaching on these points all. > >My system now has one mail delivery agent named exim4. But I do not know >is it the default mail delivery agent ? > >Can you tell me ho

Re: use of .forward file

2013-01-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:37:06PM +0800, horseriver wrote: >I have already read this man page ,and I am reaching on these points all. > >My system now has one mail delivery agent named exim4. Umm, no. Have a look at: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Mail-Administrator-HOWTO-3.html http://www.

Re: [POSSIBLE SPAM] People that CC mailing lists

2013-02-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 09:31:23AM +, Chris Green wrote: > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 07:32:13AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > > * David Woodfall [130210 00:45]: > > > I've a few mailing lists where people don't send to the mailing list > > > instead they CC it. In which case when I reply to

Re: People that CC mailing lists

2013-02-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 03:40:14PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:30:32AM +, Chris Green wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:46:34AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 09:31:23AM +, Chris Green wrote: > > >

Re: People that CC mailing lists

2013-02-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 02:00:41PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Michael Elkins wrote: > > I prefer to save the copy with the List-Post header field rather > > than the personal copy, so I use a slightly different approach: > > Agreed. However Mailman has an option that is often (ab)used. > > "Fi

Re: People that CC mailing lists

2013-02-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 08:02:02AM +0100, Alexander Dahl wrote: > > This is exactly the problem: if you have unexperienced or uninterested > users you want them to have an easy user interface. Teaching them to > hit reply if they want to answer just to the poster and reply to all > for answering a

Re: colorize mails from different mailing lists

2013-02-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:06:01PM +0530, dexter wrote: > how can i colorize 'subject' line from different mailing lists > in index. Wouldn't sorting them into different mailboxes avoid the problem of two or more lists having the same subject? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have

Re: People that CC mailing lists

2013-02-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 09:03:13PM +0100, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: > mutt, like vi and other command line programs, have an invisible user > interface. One needs to internalize the interface in order to use it > efficiently. If takes lots of time to learn such an interface and to become > product

Re: Highlight threads related to me

2013-02-19 Thread Chris Bannister
[Corrected subject, for archive search purposes] > - Marco [2013-02-19 00:12:52 +0100] - : > > > On 2013–02–18 Marco wrote: > > > > > Since I use folding by default, I would like to highlight entire Hi Marco (sorry about private mail, thought I'd lost this thread.) When you say "fold

Why does some list software not honor the headers? (was ... Re: People want ...)

2013-02-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 07:44:37AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > Then it *should* be upon you to adjust your mail-system to provide the > *special* provision that *you* desire rather than force an un-needed extra > copy upon the "rest of the world". The **ONLY** way to not get an extra copy is

Re: Why does some list software not honor the headers? (was ... Re: People want ...)

2013-02-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 08:00:24AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Chris Bannister [02-23-13 00:32]: > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 07:44:37AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > Then it *should* be upon you to adjust your mail-system to provide the > > > *special*

Re: Why does some list software not honor the headers? (was ... Re: People want ...)

2013-02-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 02:43:42PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote: > If you've ever had to do this, you know it's tedious and annoying. > Mutt is the only client I know of that gives you a choice in the > matter, via the $reply-to variable. I wondered why I couldn't find it. :) JFTR, it's $reply_to

Re: Why sign every message? (was Re: Sending attachments without crypt_autosign

2013-03-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Mar 06, 2013 at 09:37:46AM -0600, Dale Raby wrote: > I sign most of my messages, even though I only know a few people who > actively use GnuPG/PGP. As I see it, this is one way of promoting > encryption. I.e.: "What is that block of gibberish you have at the end > of your emails?" "That,

Re: Better folder navigation ?

2013-03-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 01:01:00AM -0400, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: > With ~250 nested folders the 'c' change folder is rather tedious to use. > > Or is it somehow possible to write a macro that uses find shell command to > locate list of possible folders > and then have me choose the right one

Re: Long urls

2013-03-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 02:56:18PM +0100, John Niendorf wrote: > I am using Mutt-patched from the Ubuntu repository (Yes, I am one of the > unwashed.) > Anyway, it works really well except that if a url extends to multiple lines, > Mutt can't figure it out and clicking leads to a page not found e

Re: Long urls

2013-03-30 Thread Chris Bannister
Reply to the list (only) please John, so others can follow along. The messages are archived for future "generations" to find if they can bother searching. On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 03:44:08PM +0100, John Niendorf wrote: > Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 03:37:19AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:

Re: Long urls - update

2013-04-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 10:00:58PM -0600, s. keeling wrote: > Incoming from Luis Mochan: > > I found a mistake in the extract_url.pl program: it doesn't escape > > ampersands when present in the url, so when the command to actually > > view the url is invoked, the shell gets confused. I made a quic

Re: Long urls - update

2013-04-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 01:06:05AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 10:00:58PM -0600, s. keeling wrote: > > Incoming from Luis Mochan: > > > I found a mistake in the extract_url.pl program: it doesn't escape > > > ampersands when present in

Re: opening +[Gmail]/All Mail is slowish

2013-04-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 11:19:07AM +0200, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: > >Purely just out of curiosity, why would you need to keep such a high > >number of email? Is this something quite common (at risk of sounding a > >bit stupid)? I just can't imagine ever keeping that much email in my > >account.

Re: The etiquette of RTFM (Re: I have forgotten ...)

2013-06-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 09:03:32PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 21.06.13 10:13, Rado Q wrote: > > But not to make one side happy and reject the other, how about this: > > we get 2 lists, one for the basic&simple stuff (mutt-users), the other > > for "advanced" (mutt-adventures). Have some m

Re: Mutt slow to respond?

2013-06-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 06:43:25AM +0100, Nigel Green wrote: > Hi all, > > I've used Mutt for a while now and never had any issues with > performance, but my latest install feels really laggy. On an index > screen there's a gap of half a second or so between hitting a key and > the cursor moving,

Re: Encrypting postponed messages

2013-09-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 05:30:16PM +0100, Óscar Pereira wrote: > Dear all, > > The subject seems pretty self-explanatory. Use case, you're writing > an email, which is already marked as to be sent encrypted, but you > have to postpone it. In the meantime offlineimap runs and syncs you > mailboxes,

Re: Encrypting postponed messages

2013-09-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 06, 2013 at 11:05:16AM -0500, Dale Raby wrote: > If it's sensitive > > enough to be encrypted outgoing, it's sensitive enough to be > > encrypted on disk... even if you haven't actually sent it yet. > > > > Well, its easy enough to encrypt the whole disk with modern OS's, so > if the

Re: Encrypting postponed messages

2013-09-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 08, 2013 at 06:08:04PM +0100, Mick wrote: > Yep, I had more than once, on machine(s) with no vim. I've never managed to > learn how to use emacs, but as they say it's never tool late to learn to play > the piano! :p It's more like an organ, and yes you do need the whole Cathedral.

Re: Mutt Tips / Guide

2013-09-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 03:55:49PM -0700, Josef Bailey wrote: > On 09/21, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > > > > -- > > Bob Holtzman > > Thanks for the reply > > Thanks for the link and that littearlly didn't help me out .. so i don't know >

ctrl-g doesn't work when no is chosen on a reply-to.

2013-10-22 Thread Chris Bannister
Hi, I have noticed that when pressing 'r' on a message where the reply-to is set, that if you choose 'n' to each option - ctrl-g doesn't work and pressing 'n' asks what you want to search for. It is easy to demonstrate but not so easy to explain. If you need any further info, please ask. -- "I

Re: mutt: new user

2013-11-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 07:12:59PM +0100, Martin Vegter wrote: > Dear list, > > I have just installed mutt, and I am little bit confused. I can see > my received emails, but I am not able to "switch" to my sent emails > folder. Is this the way mutt is supposed to work (only reading > received emai

Re: Account-hooks do not work as expected

2013-11-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 10:18:10PM +0100, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote: > Hi, > > I am relatively new to mutt but was able to set up some account-hooks. > I have three accounts A, B and C and when I start mutt everything > works as expected. I start in account A and when I want to change > folders or

Re: mutt: new user

2013-11-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 01:59:04PM -0600, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > so the payback is almost immediate. In terms of user efficiency, the > only MUA which is competitive to Mutt is Gnus. (I view Gnus as almost > a religion; it is a marvelous and rewarding system, but it has a steep > learning c

Re: unbind (all) key bindings

2013-11-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:09:37AM +0100, Martin Vegter wrote: > > I have found the following in the manual: > > bindindex j noop > bindindex k noop > > the problem with this approach is, that I have to unbind every > single key-binding explicitly. It mak

Re: unbind (all) key bindings

2013-11-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 01:41:55PM +, Martin Orwin wrote: > I understand your concerns about this but I don't think you'll find it a > problem in the long run. I occasionally hit the wrong key and there is > always a way of undoing what I've done (aside from saying 'no' when Mutt > actually

Re: folder-hook for sending to lists

2014-02-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 11:03:36AM -0500, glphvgacs wrote: > and so i get: > To: mutt-users@mutt.org, ycm-us...@googlegroups.com > > i don't know if there is a way to un-hook a hook when one leaves a folder, > or rather when a pattern for a hook stops to evaluate TRUE. > > another guess, this mig

Re: folder-hook for sending to lists

2014-02-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 05:08:17PM -0500, glphvgacs wrote: > On Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 04:23:31PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 11:03:36AM -0500, glphvgacs wrote: > > > and so i get: > > > To: mutt-users@mutt.org, ycm-us...@googlegroups.com &

Re: defining a shortcut to save to a mailbox

2014-02-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 11:05:34AM +, John wrote: > Hello list, > > I'd like to define numeric zero in mutt to have mutt save the selected > message to a mailbox I've called spam-missed. > > How does one do this? I've read save-hook and macro in the manual but > neither seems to be able to do

Re: Distinguishing Cc'd e-mail from To'd email

2014-02-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 05:49:55PM +0800, Chris Down wrote: > I got an interesting mail from Nikola Petrov off-list saying that his > Mutt configuration does not interpret ~p as including Cc'd mails. Wouldn't it be better to keep the mails on list? Could get confusing otherwise. -- "If you're no

Re: Distinguishing Cc'd e-mail from To'd email

2014-02-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:03:17AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 05:49:55PM +0800, Chris Down wrote: > > I got an interesting mail from Nikola Petrov off-list saying that his > > Mutt configuration does not interpret ~p as including Cc'd mails. >

Re: Distinguishing Cc'd e-mail from To'd email

2014-02-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 03:03:33AM +0800, Chris Down wrote: > On 2014-02-11 00:29:17 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > In my .muttrc I have: > > > > set to_chars=" +TCF" > > > > See table 2.6 in the documentation. > > How does this affect the b

Re: Questions from a newbie

2014-02-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 07:12:53AM +0100, alb...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi > > I have a few basic questions about mutt: > > 1) does mutt support any kind of scripting for its API? if so, what > scripting languages can be used? > 2) is it possible to define custom actions for selected emails (e.g. > g

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 01:09:16PM +0200, Andre Klärner wrote: > On Tue 08.04.2014 19:53:02, Ulrich Lauther wrote: > > So, where am I supposed to read the manual? > > Maybe try the manual that came with your distribution (Debian: > /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz) or at least the manual for the

Re: I how to customize the help line on top

2014-04-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 10:48:02AM +0100, Maurice McCarthy wrote: > OK I did an experiment and it worked. When you open mutt it shows the > index view and that displays the default bindings that Michael Kaiser > asked about. If we change the default bindings in /etc/Muttrc or > ~/.muttrc then the t

Re: Using maildir

2014-04-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 02:57:27PM +0100, Tom Furie wrote: > On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 04:00:07AM +0100, David Woodfall wrote: > > I've just set up dovecot/procmail on a debian VPS and when using mutt > > with maildir, as I navigate around, I see the new/ cur/ tmp/ folders > > and inside the actual f

Re: Correct syntax of send hook

2014-05-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 07:54:16AM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Guy Gold [05-11-14 07:38]: > > On Sat,May 10 06:49:PM, Derek Martin wrote: > > > Mostly I reply here due to a curiosity: Why is "'messed'" in single > > > quotes here? I see people do this increasingly often, and I don't get >

Re: Correct syntax of send hook

2014-05-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 01:48:48PM +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 01:12:54AM -0400, Mark Filipak wrote: > > On 2014/5/11 11:08 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > > -snip- > > > More worrying are the strange ammendments that American English is > > >

Re: Correct syntax of send hook

2014-05-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 04:52:22PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 12.05.14 21:28, Mark Filipak wrote: > > I listen to the BBC almost all the time. I think the hosts butcher > > English as thoroughly as the average American. > > True, the modern BBC's English on its website is egregious, wit

Re: Correct syntax of send hook

2014-05-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 08:39:14AM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Chris Bannister [05-13-14 05:35]: > [...] > > You forgot 'eggs it' = exit :) > > and'artic'= arctic > > > > > Erik > > > (Scurrying for cover) >

Re: mail box vanished

2014-08-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 10:40:05AM +0200, Ulrich Lauther wrote: > On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 10:33:27AM +0200, Ulrich Lauther wrote: > > > > Is there a way to mark - accidentally - all messages as "read"? > > I should have said: > > Is there a way to mark - accidentally - all messages as "read" or

Re: Format flowed equals no space in depth 1

2014-09-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 03:36:26PM -0400, Patrice Levesque wrote: > roads; red lights, yield signs, school buses and all. Please, what is a "yield sign"? Is that what the rest of the world would call a stop sign, or a give way sign? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating

Re: Format flowed equals no space in depth 1

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 12:24:31PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > The world has become complicated, and without specialization it does > not work, period. That's why you don't build your own home, > grow/raise/kill your own food ... That sounds like corporate propaganda to me - i.e. they don't want

Re: How is mutt with multi-mega-byte mboxes?

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 04:19:12PM -0400, Mark Filipak wrote: > How is mutt with multi-mega-byte mboxes? Have you found that having tens > of thousands of messages in a single box is dangerous? No, just really slow! -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who ar

Re: Format flowed equals no space in depth 1

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:05:50AM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 07:09:22PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > > It's *so* easy to grow your own vegetables. > > No one said it was hard... most of the things you pay someone else to > do aren't

Re: How is mutt with multi-mega-byte mboxes?

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:23:03AM -0500, David Champion wrote: > * On 19 Sep 2014, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 04:19:12PM -0400, Mark Filipak wrote: > > > How is mutt with multi-mega-byte mboxes? Have you found that having tens > > > of thousa

Re: Format flowed equals no space in depth 1

2014-09-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 04:33:19PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > You're focused on ONE MINISCULE ASPECT of the problem, which is a > negligible fraction of the total. As such, your points don't have any > real impact on the discussion. Come back when you're: > > - Not ever getting your food from

Re: Group replying: set To: instead of Cc:

2014-10-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 07:20:36PM +0200, Elias Diem wrote: > Hi all > > I often group reply to messages. I'd like to set the To: > field with the reply addresses instead of the Cc: field. Is > this possible? I didn't find anything on the list archive. try CTRL-L Does it do what you want? --

Re: Group replying: set To: instead of Cc:

2014-10-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 06:01:24PM +0200, Elias Diem wrote: > Hi Chris > > On 2014-10-14, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > try CTRL-L > > Does it do what you want? > > Hmmm. From the manual, CTRL-L is used to refresh the screen. > What do I miss here? Oooops

Re: now POP ...

2014-11-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 04:24:33AM -0600, Russell Harris wrote: > On Sun, November 9, 2014 11:36 pm, DaleKelly wrote: > > On 11/10/2014 12:20 AM, Francesco Ariis wrote: > > > >> On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 11:54:19PM -0500, DaleKelly wrote: > >> I use getmail [1] to obtain what you wrote above. Sample

Re: address book?

2014-11-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 08:23:57AM -0600, Russell Harris wrote: > On Mon, November 10, 2014 7:34 am, DaleKelly wrote: > > how can I configure/maintain an address book? > > But if you have a high volume of email and many addresses, you may need to > utilize a database package to manage the address

Re: POP? (read some docs first)

2014-11-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 06:29:12PM -0500, DaleKelly wrote: > On 11/10/2014 05:58 PM, DaleKelly wrote: > >Login failed. Command USER is not supported by server. > > APOP authentication failed. > proceeds the above error > > although it works!!! > > don't like errors, any help appreciated much >

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