On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 01:53:59PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 02:33:56PM +0200, Nikola Petrov wrote:
> > 
> > The fact that I don't know how the engine of my car works doesn't make
> > me a newbie. That's what abstractions in our world are for.
> 
> Umm, in the "car world" yes you'd be a newbie. Don't consider it a
> derogatory term. We are all newbies somewhere. 

I think what I should have said is that: If you want to get involved in
the "car world" i.e. subscribe to a mailing list where they talk about
your model of car, or you enrol in a course so that you can do some
repairs to your car so as to save on some repair bills, then you are a
newbie until you reach a certain level of competence.

Of course, if you are not interested in fixing or chatting about your
car then whether you are a newbie or not is probably something for the
academics to debate about around the smoko¹ table.


¹ AKA morning or afternoon break.

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"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing." --- Malcolm X

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