"Derek D. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 25/01/2002 (09:25) :
>
> Sure, but if you actually cared, you could get my key and try to
> verify it. Presumably, if you cared, you'd already have it, since my
> key ID is in my sig, and since you can configure gpg/mutt to get keys
> from a keyserv
> > > 2. I got tired of explaining text-only MUAs to them only to
> > > receive comments like, "I guess Unix isn't very good if it
> > > can't even display different colors and fonts like my PC can.
..
> > .What do you say to comments like that? There's
> > no point, they'll neve
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> | Now, what bugs me about both of these programs: to the best of my
> | knowledge, neither offers you a real programming language.
>
> Well, they do both offer a programming language. Oh, you mean "not with the
> bells and whistles I want". True, nei
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 12:07:28PM +0100, Nick Wilson wrote:
> I'd like to do the same thing if I decide to delete a thread. I've tried
> the following...
>
> macro pager ^d
>
> to no avail. Anyone spot what I'm doing wrong?
I tried the above and instead of giving me a keybinding to a control
Hi,
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 Mike Schiraldi spewed into the ether:
> I've written patch which brings message filtering to mutt. Once applied, you
> can press F from within mutt to begin the process of setting up mail
> filters.
>
> The patch is short, so i've attached in inline:
ROTFL !!
That was g
Hi,
On Thu, 03 Jan 2002 Anh Lai spewed into the ether:
> how do i keep adding my signature when replying? I would like to add it only
> when composing a new messgae. Having my signature collect on the bottom gets
> annoying sometimes.
Maybe by rebinding the 'r'eply key. Like so (untested) :
m
Hi,
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 Anh Lai spewed into the ether:
> How do I make mutt color lines starting with % as a quote just like >
>
> apparently David only uses this, and i would like to learn how to add %
> as a quote indicator.
A word of advice - Please don't change it. Though a *lot* of people
Hi,
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 Roman Neuhauser spewed into the ether:
[-- snip --]
> I'm slowly getting the picture of the classes that would make this
> happen, and would like to ask you: is there something that you sorely
> lack in your favorite MDA? What is it?
Currently, I use procmail ( I've never
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Hi everyone,
and a very merry Friday to you all.
I'm sure I've seen a key binding for resending a message but can't find
it? How is that done?
For now I've just bounced the message which I guess should send it again
but I'd like to know how this is
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 12:44:59AM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
> Alas! David T-G spake thus:
> > Funny, but my prompt really used to be > back in my early days.
>
> Of course, good old Wintendo has always used the '>' character at the end
> of the DOS prompt... [SNIP]
Sort of. The default pr
The default keybinding is e. At least that's what it is on my
system, and I don't think I re-bound it.
Regards,
Ben
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 11:50:39AM +0100, Nick Wilson wrote:
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>
> Hi everyone,
> and a very merry Friday to you all.
>
> I'm sur
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* and then Ben Logan blurted
> The default keybinding is e. At least that's what it is on my
> system, and I don't think I re-bound it.
Yep, thanks Ben.
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Tel:+45 3325 0688
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Web:www.explodingnet.co
On Fri Jan 25, 2002 at 12:44:59AM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
> ...I dunno what shell you guys are using, but
> mine uses $ for user and # for root... '%' doesn't enter into it.
IIRC, '>' is the default for tcsh (and (again, IIRC) '%' is the default
for csh).
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Martin Karlsson
> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:24:06 +0100
> From: Martin Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mutt Users' List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: char % as quote
>
> On Fri Jan 25, 2002 at 12:44:59AM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
> > ...I dunno what shell you guys are using, but
> > mine uses $ f
On Jan 25, Nick Wilson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> I'm sure I've seen a key binding for resending a message but can't find
> it? How is that done?
FWIW, you could hit '?' to see the keybindings, then '/resend' to search
for resend, and you would find resend-message bound to e.
msg23777/pgp000
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* and then Jeremy Blosser blurted
> FWIW, you could hit '?' to see the keybindings, then '/resend' to search
> for resend, and you would find resend-message bound to e.
Sure, believe it not I did try that, I must have made a typo and not
noticed
* Roman Neuhauser ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> dunno about "real" csh (csh == tcsh on FreeBSD), but % is the default
> for 0http://www.aagh.net/
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Conscience is a mother-in-law whose visit never ends.
-- H. L. Mencken
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 09:04:22PM -0600, Jeremy Blosser wrote:
> On Jan 24, Jeremy Blosser [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > On Jan 25, Roman Neuhauser [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > > Now, what bugs me about both of these programs: to the best of my
> > > knowledge, neither offers you a real progra
David T-G wrote:
>
> *This* question has started coming up relatively recently, and before now
> it hasn't been a concern.
I thought I read about the whole "Problems with PGP mails from Outlook"
more often in the last months.
> Whoa -- when did we jump to traditional style from macros? These
* Roman Neuhauser ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Procmail:
> + lots of prepackaged antispam filters
SpamAssassin rules all.
> - config files resemble uuencoded assembler
They're quite easy to understand once you grasp them.
Would you prefer an XML format? :)
> - quite resource-hung
Jeremy Blosser wrote:
>
> procmail or other MDAs will always be able to do it better, because they're
> looking at the message in exactly the right way at exactly the right time.
> With Mutt you're always going to have this effect not stick with the
> message (so you have to do it every time), yo
Roman Neuhauser on 25/01/2002 at 02:58 opined thusly:
> looks like there's just two MDA's in use: Procmail, and Maildrop. Both
> have their fine (and not so fine) points, which I'll summarize briefly
>
> Procmail:
> + lots of prepackaged antispam filters
> - config files resemble uuencod
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* and then Benjamin Smith blurted
> The following should be a working macro:
>
> macro pager \cd
>
> This is infact contrary to the documented behaviour in the manual which
> says that a caret not \c indicates the control key. Is this a
> docu
Volker Moell wrote:
>
> The most perfect way in my eyes is a $always-check-traditional-pgp
> variable.
sure. but according to the many previous discussions of this, there have
been problems with getting this to work. so when you send a patch to
the mutt-dev list that works, i'm sure they'll be
On Jan 25, Benjamin Smith [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> The following should be a working macro:
>
> macro pager \cd
>
> This is infact contrary to the documented behaviour in the manual which
> says that a caret not \c indicates the control key. Is this a
> documentation bug?
No, please read i
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* and then Jeremy Blosser blurted
> No, please read it again. What it says is that ^ is an _alternative_ for
> specifying a control character when used in the _sequence_ portion of a
> macro. \c is the only documented way to get a control chara
Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said something to this effect on 01/24/2002:
> * and then Jeremy Blosser blurted
> > On Jan 23, Jason Nealis [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > > What's the easyiest way to delete message 1-2000?
> >
> > D~m 1-2000
> >
> > D - delete-pattern
> > ~m 1-20
Dave --
...and then Dave Pearson said...
%
% On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 12:44:59AM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
% >
% > Of course, good old Wintendo has always used the '>' character at the end
% > of the DOS prompt... [SNIP]
%
% Sort of. The default prompt of the default shell on WinDOS has a
Volker --
...and then Volker Moell said...
%
% David T-G wrote:
% >
% > *This* question has started coming up relatively recently, and before now
% > it hasn't been a concern.
%
% I thought I read about the whole "Problems with PGP mails from Outlook"
% more often in the last months.
Right.
On Fre, Jan 25, 2002 at 02:00:51 -0500, parv wrote:
> well, i get around 100-300 messages a day from various mailing lists
> and it has not bothered me, resources wise, a bit on a single user,
> me, stand alone machine.
i'm subscribed to over 150 mailing lists and get over 1700 mails a day.
mutt
Alas! Thomas Hurst spake thus:
> What's the bet that OE or so actually impliments something like this
> sometime in future. Would certainly beat a bunch of screwed poorly
> generated HTML.
If it's a Good Thing, you can bet Microsoft will have nothing to do with
it.
--
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
[EMAIL
Alas! Volker Moell spake thus:
> I'm honesty, I don't have much knowledge about procmail. But in my
> eyes it's *not* the job of the MDA.
It makes sense to me that the mail _delivery_ agent ought to _deliver_
your mail into the mboxes that you want them in ;)
--
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
[EMAIL PROTE
[followups set to users list only]
Hello Mike,
On Friday, January 18, 2002 at 2:34:51 PM -0500, Mike Schiraldi wrote:
> indicator.patch changes the behavior of the indicator bar when it is
> defined as "mono indicator reverse" (the default). [...] With this
> patch, the indicator bar, when
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Hi all
I'm having a problem with an FAQ
I keep getting ? and char codes etc instead of certain charicters.
I've checked my LC_CTYPE and it's 'en_US' but er.. I'm not sure what to
so with it. The FAQ says to set it to the correct value but what's that,
I'm running LM 8.1 and have been setting up Mutt (1.3.25i). Everything
was going pretty good until I started playing around with my server
settings. For awhile, I couldn't send/receive any mail even with Kmail
or sylpheed.
I removed Postfix and Mutt and re-installed them. I can now
send/recei
Ron Secord wrote:
>
> I removed Postfix and Mutt and re-installed them. I can now
> send/receive mail with Kmail & Sylpheed, but not Mutt, which leads me
> to believe it has something to do with Postfix. I can, however,
> receive mail with Mutt.
>
> I tried installing sendmail but it conflicts w
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 12:40:48PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote:
> > I removed Postfix and Mutt and re-installed them. I can now
> > send/receive mail with Kmail & Sylpheed, but not Mutt, which leads me
> > to believe it has something to do with Postfix. I can, however,
> > receive mail with Mutt.
> This context colored indicator patch seems to have no effect when
> Mutt (versions 1.2.5 and 1.3.27) is linked with slang (version 1.4.4).
Yow! I'll take a look and post my findings.
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Mike Schiraldi
VeriSign Applied Research
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>On 25/01/02, from the brain of Marco tumbled:
> You must answer that it's like mailing a letter inside a three pounds
> box ... at the expense of the receiver.
>
> Never talk about text muas and operating systems when fighting HTML
> mail, point out that it's bad EVEN for outlook/windows users.
On Jan 25, Michael Montagne [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> Isn't HTML just text? The tags are evaluated and formatted at the
> client. So is it just that there is more text than there needs to be?
Yes. "Just text" doesn't mean much; text or binary, it's all 1's and 0's
in the end. The important
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* and then Michael Montagne blurted
> I often read about the evils os HTML email and since I do all my email
> with mutt now, I appreciate text email. But something I don't
> understand is the argument that it slows down the internet for everyon
Michael --
...and then Michael Montagne said...
%
% >On 25/01/02, from the brain of Marco tumbled:
% > You must answer that it's like mailing a letter inside a three pounds
% > box ... at the expense of the receiver.
...
%
% I often read about the evils os HTML email and since I do all my email
On Wednesday 31 December 1969 06:59 pm, you wrote:
>> what does your postconf -n output look like?
> > what happens in your logs if you do:
I tried the postconf -n and got:
bash: postconf: command not found
> > /usr/sbin/sendmail -t
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subj
David T-G wrote:
>
> Hokay. As below, I just wanted to make sure of what we were discussing.
> I've changed the subject line to help :-)
Good, thanks!
> You realize what you're asking, right? With PGP/MIME, mutt simply has to
> look at the headers to see what it must do, and that's already d
Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
>
> > I'm honesty, I don't have much knowledge about procmail. But in my
> > eyes it's *not* the job of the MDA.
> It makes sense to me that the mail _delivery_ agent ought to _deliver_
> your mail into the mboxes that you want them in ;)
Sure. "D" like in "delivery". B
This is a followup to my other message.
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
This is messed up. It should be [EMAIL PROTECTED] shouldn't it? I'm
getting that with every message I send with Mutt. If I send a message
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it will not go thru, but if I sent on
Ron Secord wrote:
> On Wednesday 31 December 1969 06:59 pm, you wrote:
>
> >> what does your postconf -n output look like?
> > > what happens in your logs if you do:
>
> I tried the postconf -n and got:
> bash: postconf: command not found
it's probably in /usr/sbin - which is most likely not in
Hello,
This has probably been discussed before, but I couldn't find it in the
mailing list archives, so here goes:
Is there any way around Microsoft's broken ISO-8859-1 character set?
The ` or ' characters show up in Mutt as \222 (contractions) \223
(left single quote) and \224 (right single quo
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* and then Christopher S. Swingley blurted
> Is there any way around Microsoft's broken ISO-8859-1 character set?
> The ` or ' characters show up in Mutt as \222 (contractions) \223
> (left single quote) and \224 (right single quote). In the ori
On Jan 25, Ron Secord [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > echo test | sendmail recipient && tail -f /var/log/mail*
>
> Got:
> bash: sendmai: command not found
^^^
If that's a paste, you typoed the name.
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Quoting Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Is there any way around Microsoft's broken ISO-8859-1 character set?
> > The ` or ' characters show up in Mutt as \222 (contractions) \223
> > (left single quote) and \224 (right single quote). In the original
> > file they're 0x92, 0x93 and 0x94 (not
On Jan 25, Christopher S. Swingley [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> That sounds familiar, but I'm not sure where I've seen that. It's
> certainly not as common as the \222 - \224 issue. It looks like sed
> won't do the trick because it doesn't understand octal (\222 - \224) or
> hexidecimal (\x92 -
Chris --
...and then Christopher S. Swingley said...
%
% This has probably been discussed before, but I couldn't find it in the
% mailing list archives, so here goes:
It is there; I remember it.
%
% Is there any way around Microsoft's broken ISO-8859-1 character set?
% The ` or ' characters
> I think one that detected such chars, or perhaps detected LookOut!
> headers, and changed 8859-1 to CP1252 was posted. Check for messages
> with 8859 and 1252 in the body.
That was the trick (8859 in mutt-users). Looks like the solution is:
set display_filter=demoroniser
It's a Perl scr
Chris, et al --
...and then Christopher S. Swingley said...
%
% > I think one that detected such chars, or perhaps detected LookOut!
% > headers, and changed 8859-1 to CP1252 was posted. Check for messages
% > with 8859 and 1252 in the body.
%
% That was the trick (8859 in mutt-users). Looks
Rob 'Feztaa' Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Alas! Alexander Skwar spake thus:
> > Well, sure it is - however don't all the HTML capable MUAs convert texts
> > like http://this-is-not.a.link.de into a clickable link? Mozilla does.
>
> Mutt highlights that as a mail, and urlview recognizes it
I hate to ask this. It must be right under my
nose.
But, I've looked in the headers of this lists
messages, I've looked on the web site too, but I
can't find anything that tells me how to
unsubscribe.
Would someone please tell me?
Thanks,
kelly
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At some point hitherto, Will Yardley hath spake thusly:
> the procmail recipe seems to work fine
Except it doesn't. if the mail has an attachment. It no work good.
:) I have a lot of Pine-using friends, and this is what happens when
they send me a
Kelly --
...and then Kelly Scroggins said...
%
% I hate to ask this. It must be right under my
% nose.
Probably so.
%
% But, I've looked in the headers of this lists
% messages, I've looked on the web site too, but I
% can't find anything that tells me how to
% unsubscribe.
You mean you di
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 02:09:09PM -0800 I heard the voice of
Michael Montagne, and lo! it spake thus:
>
> Isn't HTML just text? The tags are evaluated and formatted at the
> client. So is it just that there is more text than there needs to be?
> Or is it the links and scripts that are often inc
>
> I suppose it's equally valid for them to say, "I, the sender, should be able
> to control how a message is presented to you."
>
No, that's the whole point, because with email the (time, money) extra
expense associated with downloading useless html formatting is paid by the
receiver, not the
I have switched over to Maildir format and I have noticed a few things
that don't seem quite right...
When I had mbox format set up, I had spool directories that procmail
dumped mail to. I would read it, and then I would us an mbox-hook to
move the read mail to a final destination. e.g.
mailboxe
On Jan 25, David Rock [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> I have switched over to Maildir format and I have noticed a few things
> that don't seem quite right...
>
> When I had mbox format set up, I had spool directories that procmail
> dumped mail to. I would read it, and then I would us an mbox-hook t
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 12:38:57PM -0500, David T-G wrote:
> Dave --
>
> % Sort of. The default prompt of the default shell on WinDOS has always
> % used the ">" character. Personally I haven't used the default shell of
> % WinDOS since about 1991 and the last character of the prompt hasn't been
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